Thread 724128697

This is the greatest game of all time

>>724128697 (OP)
After 20 years I still play it almost yearly.

I'm sure you'll be making this thread every single day for the next 6 months and replying to yourself, minimum.

>>724128697 (OP)
trve
>>724128960
I hope he does.

I'm going to replay it soon. I'm gonna return to a vanilla run after being an SCS sister for many years.

Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal should have been Baldur's Gate III. WotC had to disallow ToB to be a separate game due to them wanting all new games to use their D&D 3.0 Ruleset, a ruleset that isn't backwards compatable with AD&D.

Thus, I refuse to recognize "Baldur's Gate III" as Baldur's Gate III. Thanks for reading my blog.

>>724128697 (OP)
Fact check: True.

I still replay the Baldur's Gate Trilogy (Baldur's Gate, Baldur's Gate 2 and Throne of Bhaal) every few years. It is the greatest gaming experience of all time and unsurpassed until this very day.

>>724128697 (OP)
It's extremely good, but many other games were too, at the time. I'm happy to have had lots of free time and zero responsibilities so I could enjoy these good games for months without stopping.

>>724128697 (OP)
It's pretty fucking great. Tiax rules all!!

>>724132051
kek

>>724132051
>justin smith
crazy that someone with that face exists

>>724128697 (OP)
I've never actually gone beyond chapter 4, because I always get burned out as my autism forces me to play the first game before.

>>724128903
Everytime the same playthrough? During lock down I tried solo playthroughs. Easy af. As soon as you hit lvl 9 or ten, that's it. Few fights in the game maybe be tricky though.

Has anyone tried the javelin mod?

>>724132051
Imagine being asked by your nerd friend to help out with some project he's working on, thinking you're the one who's making a favor for the poor fella; then ending up being immortalized as a companion portrait in one of the greatest RPGs ever.

>>724128697 (OP)
a couple years ago i tried running bg1 and got to that town where the assassins try to kill some witch lady. two separate playthroughs both fizzled out here. was it filtering and i should give it another shot or is the game just not that great and i can skip directly to 2 without missing much

>>724136423
Low levels are kinda deadly, you can skip it.

>>724128697 (OP)
I'm almost done with Baldur's Gate 1 (the main game, still have a DLC campaign to do) going through Durlag's Tower.

Anything I should know or look forward to about BG2?

>>724137003

In BG2, the game becomes very broad in scope with a lot of interparty urgency. It can be a lot to take on right off the bat, but after Chapter 2, the game gets pretty linear until Chapter 6 where you can go back to get at what you missed from Chapter 2 if you wish it. Also, the Golden Pantaloons from BG are a strong item that will get you some nice and funny things in the final game. But you also need to find the Silver Pantaloons and the Bronze Pantalettes. Silver is found in BG2, and Bronze is found in its expansion Throne of Bhaal.

>>724128697 (OP)
>uses some cheap low-stakes boring mythology even though asians were already using high grade gnosticslop (e.g. in final fantasy), and you had more talented people in Europe writing high quality LOTR-slop than you could shake a stick at
>game breaking bugs that softlock you right after you start a quest, but find out 3-4 hours later, at the end of the quest
yeah no, even Fable 3 with its kindergarden tier story was better

>>724131987
This is false, ToB was always an expansion. Black Isle WAS in the process of making a BG3 called The Black Hound which was a new and unrelated story to BG2 but the licence expired and it was scrapped.

Also the actual BG3 is an amazing game in its own right. stop being a faggot.

>>724128697 (OP)
Is Arcanum better?
I missed out on it because of tech issues back in the day.

>>724139868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMUugZ3DxH8
I missed on it too, wanted to play it after seeing that review yet compared to modern RPGs it's way too demanding
Arx Fatalis on the other hand, that's a good one, on par with Morrowind

>>724139868
I played Arcanum and think it is actually pretty shitty. People think they will get a high fantasy Fallout if they play it, but that is not the case.

>>724131987
> I refuse to recognize "Baldur's Gate III" as Baldur's Gate III

Absolutely based

>>724139307
>Also the actual BG3 is an amazing game in its own right. stop being a faggot.

Very unbased, you should kill yourself for being such a faggot.

>>724133250
install tactics remix and write that again https://www.morpheus-mart.com/tactics-remix

I used to have pretties piled high to the sky.

Don't know where they are now though.

Mm.

Pretties.

>>724140745
Cringe, you should kill yourself for being such a faggot.

>>724132051
Agreed, Throne of Bhaal does feel rushed though, which is the only complaint that I have about the games.

>>724139307
This BG3 > BG2

>>724140924
>Says the person who enjoys the gay bear fucking simulator

>>724140796
this or sword coast stratagems?

>>724139307
>BG3 is an amazing game in its own right
trying to replay it and i just cant get over how fucking slow everything is, the voice acting to everything taking ages, gay drama talks in camp, the same unlikable companions i want to leave in camp cause theres no other choice, combat with 4+ enemies taking ages even if its weak goblins, Dice animation EVERYWHERE. Fuck larian for not giving us animation speed option in a turn based game. I will just replay modded BG2 for the 5th time instead

>>724128697 (OP)
i will never play it because every time i reach Baldurs Gate in the first one, I take a break and then wind up restarting.
is it really that good?

>>724139868
Arcanum isn't that good.
>enemy variety sucks, the few noteworthy enemies are only memorable because of how frustrating they are to fight (ie golems)
>itemization is like Diablo but with 1/10th the affixes and 10x the game length, so you will max out your gear the moment you get past the hobo phase and never find anything interesting ever again (techGODs are an exception since their gear is not purchasable, they actually get to have some fun finding new blueprints that make new gear)
>spells are lame and spammy
>combat is lame and spammy and tedious, hope you enjoy fighting a pack of zombies or wolves or skeletons for the 500000th time
>almost every recruitable NPC is filler with little or no dialogue beyond the introduction
>only well known for the stat-based dialogue, which is complete dogshit when you realize 99% of the dialogue is recycled in every town, every inn, every house
>the game completely falls apart when you get 10-20 hours in (probably because of the development)
I unironically would consider it as the isometric equivalent of Starfield or Skyrim, it's the kind of game that seems like it is full of content for about ten hours, and then you realize it's almost all auto-generated slop with the most mindnumbing combat systems possible. Still a fun game, but not worth more than one playthrough.

>>724128697 (OP)
Based. My personal favorite is Planescape but Bg2 is close second. I hope the release of Bg3 (fine but totally different kind of game) doesn't mean we'll never see a proper successor

>>724141297
SCS takes ages to install and you kinda need to know which components to skip (like that experimental provisions one), both are different flavor of the same thing.
I would also add some cdtweaks for QoL, Ascension and EEex spell UI. Theres also prebuff script in tactics remix site i posted earlier, late game without it can be a a chore and I use customized version of it.

>>724141438
maybe

>>724141736
https://eeex-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Introduction/components.html
the fact you can use SHIFT click over enemy to see their buffs/debufs is such a massive improvement

>>724141736
why isn't there a modpack with all these tweaks 20 years later instead of making everyone hunt them on 5 different websites...

>>724142293
because most of them are made by different people and still in development getting updated at different time

>>724142426
we definitively need a definitive definitive tweak edition

>>724140796
Cool, more mods, tanks.

>>724140512
>>724141461
Interesting, I'll temper my expectations then. I can take junk, comes with the territory playing older stuff and especially RPGs. Guess people are really excited about the setting.

>>724141096
>went out of his way to fuck a bear
faggot detected

>>724143658
I didn't buy the game much less play it unlike faggots like you lol, lmao even.

>>724128697 (OP)
I got filtered by the combat. It just didn't make any sense even coming from BG1.

>>724128697 (OP)
Its not even the best Baldur's Gate game lol

>>724141384
>literal retard

>>724128697 (OP)
Baldurs gate 3 is better

>>724139307
My problem with BG3 is it all feels like a big story crammed onto very small maps. BG1/2 did make me wonder of adventure largely because you visited so many places and the tone was also a bit more adult in a way. BG3 feels like a classic fairy tale with its themes. BG2 feels to me far richer in everything.

>>724145969
>BG3 feels like a classic fairy tale with its themes
Not really, the only motivation the PC and his "friends" have across the game is not to die from the parasite. Fairy tales were made by actual competent people, so they're nothing like BG3.

>>724143931
What was confusing to you? In vanilla most problems can be solved by just casting improved haste on your fighters and smashing stuff.
Was it the enemy mages with spell protections? They really tripped me up on my first playthrough.

>>724146565
I did mean it; maybe tonally it did not feel like Epic fantasy to me or very compelling, to be honest. I did find the main story to be very weak and everything being so cramped together did make it not believable. I am honestly surprised that so many people liked it. Maybe because they do not read or did not play any of the older rpg games. Or maybe i am just to old and have different taste.

>>724145548
not even a baldurs gate game, its divisnity OS 3 faggot

>>724146764
I heard that it imitates the kind of games modern people have playing tabletop very well, so I guess we're simply aren't the target audience. The only problem I have with BG3 is the greedy dev using a great franchise as a skin puppet just to squeeze a bit more money from it. I hope they get what's coming to them.

>>724128697 (OP)
The 3rd game is way better

I'm not a big fan of bg3 but people here act like it killed their dog or something.

>>724147220
more like it took the corpse of your dog that died peacefully of old age and paraded it around while at the same time having undisguised, outspoken contempt and hatred for your dog

>>724141012
Cool map.

>>724145221
nice argument tranny

>>724147210
>>724145548
>The 3rd game is way better
Throne of Bhaal is pretty good, but Baldur's Gate 2 is actually better IMO.

>>724128697 (OP)
do i need to play baldurs gay one to play gay two

>>724132051
>artist draws a self-portrait
>it's the best gigachad hero face in gaming

>>724148036
Not really but you should because 1 is better in a lot of ways.

>>724148378
looks like i got a lot of gay to play, i hope i can get into it. i just want to enjoy a videogame again

>>724141012
didn't realize menzoberranzan is that far north

>>724128697 (OP)
Nah, Baldur's Gate 3 is objectively better

>>724148036
You don't have to play BG1, but you should for the story. Any character you create will also carry over.

I only played the Enhanced Editions, should play the originals one day
should I use any mods for it?

>>724148830
Don't listen to this faggot. Play Baldur's Gate 1 and Baldur's Gate 2, but skip Divinity: Original Gay Bear Sodomy 3.

Maybe I wouldnt call it best in the world. It is very obtuse at the start but gets better further you go. The power fantasy is fucking real though and overall it is extremely good game

>>724128960
He did indeed wind up doing that. I wonder how many of these types of threads are one person extremely aggressively spamming the board.

I hate how these threads are just crying about bg3 these days. Classic bg threads used to be comfy.

>>724149567
They were always shit. BG itself was an extremely shit game that attracted the worst posters on /v/, biodrones, and all they'd do is make extremely low quality posts.

>>724128697 (OP)
No point in playing this shit when BG3 exists

>>724148987
This.

>creators of Bioware are the faces for two of the portraits
Well, I know which portraits I'm never using

Graphics of both games make me want to gouge both eyes out with a fork. Remakes when?
Yeah, I know, they'll butcher them, monkey's paw, etc. I'm just going to have to suffer through it.

>>724128697 (OP)
try black geyser. i think its inspired by bg 1&2

>>724128697 (OP)
BG3 is better

>>724149734
why is every "BG"3 player mentally ill like this faggot here, spamming thread he was never invited with his putrid abomination, D:OS3 in faerun is nothing but a cash grab which has nothing to do with original games.

If you retards would just stop replying to the OBVIOUS bait posts about BG3, they'd go away. It's actually laughable just how easy it is for them to rile you up. The mere mention of BG3 gets you grognards frothing at the mouth.

>>724128697 (OP)
First was junky and boring. I replayed it for 5 times and dropped after around of 70% of game done each time. Can't start the second until I'll finally finish the first one. Third too ofc.

>>724150273
It is just one bear fucking faggot. The thread was peak comfy until he arrived to shill his gay WEG soft porno.

>>724128697 (OP)
i've tried to finish this game 3 times and got filted in the maze with eye ball heads and then 2 more times before the underdark

>>724128697 (OP)
1 was better. 2 was boring and repetitive.

>>724150481
Who would go away? BG2 is not a good game by any definition. This doesn't need a thread. By my count there is 34 RPG threads in the catalogue right now and they're all the same threads over and over that some guy lazily makes every single day. This game doesnt even deserve to be posted once a year. Its objectively a terrible game where you just slam on buffs and hammer your stat sticks through blobs of enemies with the occasion casting of breach or horrid wilting. If this is what an RPG should be then they just shouldn't make any more. You aren't interested in actually discussing this game, because if you did the conversation would swiftly be brought to a conclusion due to how shitty it is in the grand scheme of things. You just want to occupy space and regurgitate voice lines from the game to bump the thread.

Need 1000% less threads like this.

>>724128697 (OP)
Not even close

>>724151138
filtered

>>724128697 (OP)
Outdone by BG3 in every way

>>724151338
>look, others say what I think!
Unironically being you, kek

>>724141096
>>724143873
>>724147395
>>724148012
>>724148987
>>724149851
>>724150273
>>724150591
You have schizophrenia

>>724151138
>>724151338
>>724151470
I just started playing BG3. Am I doing it right?

>>724151470
nice projecting here faggot

>>724151338
This

>>724150801
Shit bait. At least try to be subtle, like say "BG2 pales in comparison to BG3" or "BG2 has aged poorly". If you just come out and say "it's not a good game" outright, it's too obvious you're baiting. Also, I literally haven't played the game and I never will :)

>>724151943
Its not bait, you're annoying. Go away. You have a whole board just for this shit, go shit that up.

>>724128697 (OP)
BG3 > BG2

>>724128697 (OP)
You can never surpass the GOAT. I still replay BG1 and BG2 every once in a while.

>>724152212
Brother, I literally just told you that I have never played the game and never will. I am not the OP. I just dropped into the thread and (as is so typical of /v/) found the post quality to be abhorrent.
>(you)
need to stop posting such dogshit bait and
>the other (you)
needs to stop taking the bait. Like god damn, how much more obvious could he be?

>>724148987
i heard gay 3 is pretty gay but dos2 is an objectively pretty enjoyable game imo gameplay wise

>>724128697 (OP)
Should I play Enhanced Edition with the Beamdog NPCs removed, or the original?

>>724153137
I liked dos1, but I really can't understand why anyone would enjoy dos2. It's extremely grey tedious from the very start, I've tried it multiple times and never moved past the first act.

>>724153245
Original

>>724153245
Try asking google!

>>724153137
Kinda the other way around desu. Every encounter in DOS2 feels like they designed it to be as annoying as possible with 100 environmental things to consider and your class abilities don't really do all that much outside of combat. Your build and party comp do a lot more to tailor the gameplay experience in BG3.

Has anybody played the phone version of BG2? I was thinking about picking it up so I have something to play on the shitter, public transportation, flights, etc. Mobile games are ASS and I've yet to find one that's actually fun and interesting.

BG1 is a far, far better game than 2 is and it is jot close.

>>724153353
I trust /v/s opinion more than reddits

>>724153245
I see no reason to play EE, but then again I've had my BGT folder for more than a decade.

>>724153580
Alright I'll stick to OG

>>724153554
>jot
Not
Lol

>>724153287
>I liked dos1, but I really can't understand why anyone would enjoy dos2.
I feel the same way.

There is no major difference between Original and Enhanced.

>>724153554
It definitely gives you more freedom, at the cost of that whole "cinematic" shtick that started in BG2. I grew to appreciate it quite a lot more over the years.

ok thats IT im tired of being stuck in video game choice paralysis hell
im going to play BG1 ENHANCED EDITION on my old WINDOWS XP pc sporting an AMD ATHLON 2000+ gpu and a GEFORCE 4 ti4200 and thats what im going to do TODAY

>>724154896
Good choice. :D

>>724153554
I don't know if it's better, but I know I like it 10 times more. I always go back to 1 and only finished 2 the one time... and was exhausted by the main campaign so I gave up on the expansion whatever its name was.
i hate it that it locks me in story "islands" that I have to finish if I want to keep exploring the world.

Just found this but I must ask some oldhead who knows the answer to this.

BG1 the original version not the remaster had these cheesy cutscenes that would play at certain points in the story but their missing in the enhanced edition also the music has been redone. Is this the same for BG2? Im talking about not the oiringal soundtrack and cutscenes and othher shit missing.

>"She doesn't slerp much. What use are eyelids when you can see through planes."

I keep thinking about that line years and years latter. Poor girl.

No other CRPG has the same density of high quality content, it's genuinely impressive

>>724128697 (OP)
The game part of this game sucks

BG3 needed to be Bhaalspawn Saga part 3. Durge comes close to that but still misses the point. It was completely unnecessary to go with WotC "canon" Bhaalspawn character. There are so many ways to deal with the most significant choices of BG2/ToB. Larian is a bunch of cowards.

>>724159318
BG3 needs to be renamed to DOS3 in modern faerun because thats what it is, BG trilogy already exists and is a finished story.

>>724128697 (OP)
I don't know if it's the greatest of all time. But it's definitely in the top 5. I finished it one time when I was 12 or so. It was awesome.

>>724156626
No the cutscenes in 2 are intact, due to negative feedback about the bad replacements in 1.
In general, BG1EE can be thought of as a port of BG1 into BG2, as inspired by popular mods that did the same thing, and with all of the compromises and design flaws that that causes.

>>724135640
>honey, can I use your photo as reference
>ends up immortalized as bitchy manhater and as a drow
Stan Melax is into femdom, I bet. And I am jealous of Dean Andersen.

Because she's a good girl

>>724128697 (OP)
I like 1 more. Especially with permadeath. It makes all the fights fun and forces me to learn / use all the characters. Plus you create an emotional bond.
2 could be the same but it just has too few characters.

Imagine meeting her

>>724132051
You skip the dragon spear one eh?

>>724128697 (OP)
Name 5 things you like about it

>>724159318
BG3 didn't need to fucking exist. It should be completely disconnected from the BG saga, a new game in forgotten realms.

>>724128697 (OP)
I would argue VtMB but this is a close second

>>724159842
You didnt like how they pissed all over Viconia and Sarevoks character development?

>>724128697 (OP)
Not even close

>>724153554
Nah, its close. 1 is better but its close.

>>724151608
Is that woman throating dragon cock?

ITT a bunch of retarded faggots with the audacity to say BG3 is anywhere near as good as the originals either that or a bunch of larian shills

>>724161114
Wait until you hear about the bear

>>724161841
its probably one deranged bg3troon who started spamming child pornography in this thread 15minutes ago, you cant make this shit up

>>724161841
why did you post a reddit image

>>724141384
It was made for mouth breathing casuals, they need their 20 minutes to click on melee attacks and fireball.
Being turn base was great for div:os games but it's retarded for DnD games. They're way too fucking simple and repetitive for that.

>>724161841
>being a retarded contrarian
>posting reddit images

>>724128697 (OP)
BG3 is way better

Every RPG thread is the most boring and malicious bait I've ever seen. I don't think there is a single person here who actually likes these games and they occupy like half the catalog 24/7. Its either dumb bait or mouth breathing retards arguing over lore. Why is this garbage even allowed. This has to be the worst thing that has ever happened to /v/, it was less bad when it was getting raided by /b/ and furries because at least people recognized how shit things were. This is just like a frog being slowly boiled.

>>724163290
Hello sharty fag.

>>724163489
Dude, the people making the threads spam wojaks all the time. Its all retards. Just get this shit out of here.

>>724163290
How dare you talk about videogames.

>>724128697 (OP)
What's the appeal?

t. still playing Goldbox on a regular basis, got repulsed by the casualization in Baldur's Gate and never stayed with any games released after 2000 longer than a single afternoon

are there any modern games with the same depth as bg3 but with simpler visuals?

>>724164461
BG3 on low graphics setting

>>724164150
>got repulsed by the casualization in Baldur's Gate and never stayed with any games released after 2000 longer than a single afternoon
Filtered.

>>724132051
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IQHjhBq7cwE

>>724141012
>Features the Beamdog companions
Faggots, leave and never come here again

>>724160985
Wtf is this real

>>724164150
knights of the chalice looking games

>>724165410
Take your meds

>>724128697 (OP)
The only romanceable character in a video game that I ever enjoyed.

>>724153245
EE is fine today, all the seething comes from 2 points
1) the new characters are hit or miss, some are good most aren't, the bg1 additions are OP.
2) they fixed a lot of exploits people abused that you can readily patch back in.
they also bricked one of their newly added classes, Shadow Dancer's endgame unintentionally with the last patch and never undid it and no one talks about it

>>724128697 (OP)
I loved BG1 and BG2 but I can't get into them now.

>>724128697 (OP)
strategy shooter, package manager, dos, windows store

>>724165985
Don't let your dreams be memes.

>>724165804
Tasteless retard

>>724166070
fried dopamine receptors

>>724166043
whats wrong with shadowdancers now?

>>724166218
Milkers goodness! Never knew the picture has open bags. I will now proceed to find the original picture. Naem of viconia?

>>724168025
just click on the yandex search

>>724168025
No idea, I just know she was a Russian pornstar with a Slavic name. Probably Anastasia, arent they all Anastasia?

>>724168209
Awesome, cool site.

>>724168304
I think so, too. Was something like anastasia.
>aren't they all anastasia
There's anna, nikita, saschenka and plenty more.

>>724167983
Short of it is they gimped their shadow clones. They made a change to the simulacrum code so that clones don't get innate abilities, this affected thief and thieving subclasses unintentionally as their copies cannot use hide in shadows.
Turns out shadow twins use the same code so your copies can't turn invisible either, meaning you can't make a small army and chainbackstab enemies without a dedicated mage turning them into an inferior version if invisibility.

They confirmed changes weren't intended immediately afterwards and said it'd be fixed in the next patch 5 years ago.

>>724168304
I see busty, I reply, simple.

>>724168443
beamdog is guilty of a number of a crimes

>>724168443
>meaning you can't make a small army and chainbackstab enemies
ah man that'd be great to do. can any fan mod/fit it?

>>724168750
Yeah, you can edit a single line of code utilizing one of the db unpackers yourself it's just stupid that they couldn't put out a single hotfix for the people on consoles and android.
AFAIK no one actually made a mod to fix it yet but maybe it's included in one of the big community patches.

>>724166218
Unironically uglier

>>724167897
Probably, yeah. :(

>>724168619
Its not like they removed a fun gameplay mechanic. Like if you were to actually post yourself doing this, well, it would be really, really boring. A lot of IE games is saying you can do this or that, but really you either shouldn't or can't. Its pretty hard to defend an RPG that doesn't even have a real front line, even goldbox games had that. Nothing interesting can happen in a game where its just blobs smashing into each other, and doing something like chaining backstabs is just making the blob vacuum up exp slower.

>>724141828
Why did I never hear about this mod? It looks great. I usually play with just cstweaks and the mod that removes all EE characters. Any other must-have mods?

Can you be evil in BG1 and BG2? Never played em.

>>724169676
>Can you be evil in BG1 and BG2
Sort of, but there's no real reward or reactivity for it. It just makes vendor prices go up and guards attack you. It mostly just locks you out of things. BG is pretty much just brainless combat with a soapy cartoony story.

>>724169225
>no frontline
The games base AI system literally targets all enemies on the first party member they see. Unless you're using an AI mod like SCS in which they'll target weakest party members if you don't CC them.
>and doing something like chaining backstabs is just making the blob vacuum up exp slower.
Takes a whole 20seconds to prep for the next 5 minutes and you don't send one in at a time, you send your frontline in and then have a group of people who can turn invisible immediately after getting their backstabs off to pause, smash invisibility key+tab, backstab again, and then after have multiple clones split up and scouting dungeons/checking for traps.

The whole thing about high level shadowdancers is the stupid shenanigans they can get up to thanks to numbers.
If you dual class as a mage suddenly you're able to have 20 summons for real blob combat, or send 12 fireballs a second.
>>724169610
Only came out a couple of years ago, but it's pretty goated especially if you're playing with swordcoast strategems for seeing whatever bullshit a mage has up for wizard chess.

>>724169847
>brainless combat with a soapy cartoony story

Sounds like the average JRPG. I guess that's why I was always attracted to Fallout 1/2 instead, the amount of choice you get really makes them replayable.

>>724169676
Yes but not really.
There's evil choices, sure, but the story more or less plays out the same whether or not you're a goody two-shoes or hitlers greatest disciple.

The paradigm system exists as a means for companions to bitch and moan until they leave and shop prices.
I can think of a handful of events that trigger if your reputation is evil instead of good and vice versa.

>>724169907
>The games base AI system literally targets all enemies on the first party member they see
That's not a proper frontline. There's no AoO to sledge hammer them, and there's not enemy frontline you have to bypass or work around. This also makes your casters getting rushed down way less dangerous, but its not like anyone is squishy in this shit game and ruleset anyways.
>AI mod like SCS in which they'll target weakest party members if you don't CC them
Stuff like this kind of just turns the game into a WoW/ff14 raid simulator, not DnD, which I think is what IE fans really want.

>just want a simple dnd game
>find pic related in demo page
>looks pretty comfy
>suddenly played it for an hour
that's what i'm talking about
no photorealism, just a fun art style and good gameplay

>>724170343
LMAOOOOOO

>>724169225
in SCS enemy archers will kite you and try to interrupt your spells if u cast in their visual range, melee will swap targets and mages will cast actually good spells. Theres no modern rpg with better enemy AI, games like pathfinder wotr have worse AI than even vanilla BG

>>724170050
so where's the role playing? It sounds like these games aren't even as fun as dragon age origins

>>724170343
sounds like you're having a blast :)

>>724170343
Do you even get to be fucked in the ass by a single bear?

>>724170473
>Theres no modern rpg with better enemy AI
The IWD2 EE mod has better AI than SCS, we don't even need to go modern. But in general, yeah there is, KotC2, Temple of Elemental Evil, feldar vale, dawnsbury days, Pillars of Eternity, Deadfire, etc, all have better AI that will take tactical actions to counter the player with better systems to enable this. But its pretty pointless to debate, as all CRPGs are complete casual dogshit and you could have a billion times more fun just playing some slitherine wargame which have both better AI and a play by mail system for human opponents. This is a system that should have never been adapted to video games and all video game RPGs, CRPG, JRPG, whatever, are all in reality just really, really bad strategy games with a mix of adventure, but the IE games don't even have the latter. They are nothing like tabletop, and video games shouldn't seek to be like tabletop either, they should try to be actual good video games instead of using genre as an excuse for being casual garbage.

>>724170812
i fought a single bear, took it out pretty quickly
but the encounter kept fucking going due to elves and wolves summoning more wolves

Original BG2 with Improved UI mod is the way to go. It adds the QoL of EE without the other EE bullshit.

>>724170590
The roleplaying is just doing what you think your character would do. Just because you don't get a nod for completing a quest a certain way later on doesn't detract from that.
There's different rewards for different paths you choose, sure, but there's also nothing holding a gun to your head saying be a raging retard because your alignment dictates it.

>>724170946
>IWD2 EE mod has better AI
you have to be fucking joking lmao, i just finished that game few days ago and scripted flank spawn even if u cleared the map is not an AI, I stopped reading here cause you are clearly full of shit and im not going to waste time arguing with a retard.

>>724171391
>The roleplaying is just doing what you think your character would do
That's not what roleplaying is. The ruleset in an RPG is in place to force you to roleplay and take whatever action would best lend itself to your character's survival. By following the rules you would naturally roleplay. Just like in real life you would have to make hard choices that would hinder your survival due to your alignment. LARPing and RPGs are not the same and are not connected. Only Elder Scrolls kids think this bullshit.

>>724171280
>Original BG2 with Improved UI mod
damnit. I already have a BGT OG set up with various tweaks and fixes. I can't just dump this over the top can I? I have to start all over? Shame, it looks really good.

>>724171542
I don't want to hear some diaper wearing neanderthal that things BG2 is the end all be all of RPGs try to shuffle out of discussion because he's been called out. Your IQ can't be higher than 30 and this is why RPGs threads don't deserve to exist.

>>724159318
>There are so many ways to deal with the most significant choices of BG2/ToB. Larian is a bunch of cowards.
For all its faults, Larian still had to follow WotC’s canon bullshit.
Abdel Adrian.

>>724171542
>make the same thread every day on multiple boards
>immediately throw a tantrum and run away when confronted, then go back to shilling your mods
Is this dude for real?

>>724171929
He's been at it for years.

>Orginal BG1 and 2 devs
>"we cannot make a turn based gameplay or else players would spend hours just to fight a dragon"
>let's make it in real time but hide the turns
Why the hell are modern devs so stuck up to make everything boring and slow?

>>724132051
I want to fuck Kalvin Lyle's friend!

>>724171668
>I am neutral evil
>I could steal from the orphanage even though it would benefit me in the long run not to shit where I eat
>but I am evil, so I must
Nah man, fuck off with that shit.
Perhaps in the dnd universe alignments are actual forces which affect the world you live in, but that doesn't mean the writer's aren't stupid.

I look to Pathfinder Kingmaker as the perfect example of a roleplaying game that has terrible alignment choices, becoming a fallen paladin because the "good" choice is arbitrarily chaotic good or neutral good so you have to choose the indifferent asshole or ambiguously evil options.

>>724171929
i didnt make this thread schizo-kun

>>724171542
post your youtube beating BG no reload with SCS on insane cause you clearly have never beaten that game and are just spewing bullshit about something you have no idea about.

>>724172347
Nothing in my post implied any of that, were you just constipated with all that unrelated information? Bet you've been holding in that turd for a long time.

>>724172459
meant to quote this faggot
>>724171776

>>724172459
>i didnt make this thread schizo-kun
Yeah you definitely did and every BG2 thread is the same shit. Imagine what kind of enormous faggot thinks BG2 is a hard game, you've never played a real video game even once in your entire life.

>>724172610
take your meds cause you are clearly delusional

>>724172506
You spewed out an entire train of thought of
>uhh not what you THINK your character would do
>its what your character WOULD do to survive!
>not larping like skyrim kiddies!
I'll be honest I only half read it because I saw a bunch of retarded shit and assumed you to be the same autist who spams in all crpg threads with
>you MUST do what your alignment says

Instead I see you're just typing up irrelevant shit and talking in circles because you have an even worse case of autism.

>>724172678
Dude thinks casting breach is mind boggling gameplay. Dude thinks collecting scrolls to make you immune to all damage before the fight even starts is the ultimate challenge any video game could ever present.

This all goes back to ivory tower design, like with MTG and yugioh, where fat retards are tricked into thinking they're better at something because its just a pile of knowledge checks and nothing else, and the knowledge checks aren't even that deep or require learning, they're extremely obviously right in front of your face the entire time. It's like underrail, nwn, and owlcat games with feat stacking. Everything in IE games just makes me feel like I'm being treated like a complete retard, its almost insulting. Its genuinely odd to me that someone can base their entire personality of pretending this is the hardest game ever made. Even a dumb normalfag who's never played a video game before can tell that statement is absolutely ridiculous. Its just so weird. Brainrot, man.

>>724160985
They only had that character development if you chose those options.

>>724128697 (OP)
BG3 shits all over it

>>724128697 (OP)
Baldur's Gate 1 had a better story and antagonist. I think SOA is better just as a world, the Byzantine aesthetic they did for Athkatla is really unmatched in any other game I've seen.

>>724173134
can I be evil in BG3?

The BG trilogy have absolutely atrocious encounter design.
Its mostly just balls of enemies running straight at you.

should i play BG1 first or skip to 2

>>724173023
as expected i was right that you are a clueless nigger who hasnt even played the game, the entire point of SCS is to make breach do jack shit you faggot and you have audacity to talk about IWD2 or 3e+ combat which is fully braindead stat check+ prebuff wank and spam currently strongest spell in ur arsenal, arguably worse than even vanilla BG. Choke on a dick and never write to me again you absolute retard.

>>724173623
extremely

>>724173623
You can

>>724173867
>the entire point of SCS is to make breach do jack shit you faggot
What the fuck do you mean, nigger? They just add another layer of shielding so you have to do a SUPER breach, and if the fight is REALLY "tough" it'll require the SUPER DUPER POOPER breach. All pre-emptively lined up in your spellbook in advance of course, optimally for that single fight which you have foresight on for... totally believable roleplaying reasons. There's literally a retard here that thinks this is what a video game is, and what difficulty is. Good lord, man.

>>724173720
just skip straight to 3

>>724173957
>>724173883
I will now play your gay bear fucking game

I don't like these kinds of games because I don't like to read in video games. I do like to read. just not in video games.

>>724173720
Skip unless you really want to experience the trilogy in full.
You get some pretty beefy stat boosts in bg1, but you can download a mod to treat your new characters in 2 as if you played through it collecting them.
In all honesty you can read a plot synopsis of 1 and miss basically nothing, but it has a low level dnd feel that 2 lacks.

I think it's worth playing first just to see how much better bg2 is, but I understand there's not enough time to play all the GOOD rpgs, and BG1 is hella mid. t, 100 hours in it.
Don't play Siege of Dragonspear until after 2, despite the reviews its actually pretty okay

>>724174101
Stop posting, you have no played the game and are clearly clueless and over your head.

Really should stick to my rule to ignore tranime posters, always low iq mentally ill faggots.

>>724174350
BG2 is not a good game, its the death knell for bioware and when they starting making their games really cinematic and faggy theme parks. At least BG1 is a straightforward adventure.

>>724174101
This nigga weebs! The soul of /v/.

>>724171851
No, why do they have to? They don't have to name the Bhaalspawn character. They don't have to respect the book's choices either. They make the 3rd game to the series. If they dare to make a game with a 3 in the name, the canon of the game number 2 has to matter more. The book is not the source material. The games are. For all what's right and proper, Larian could have recorded Sven do a BG1 to ToB run and make that canon.

>>724174427
lmao, what do you mean? do you really think youre in some elite circle for having played bg2?

>>724174427
I dont know why hes talking like you need to be a precog, but hes right about how the wizards just become breech machines.
Only thing worse was tactics ogre where litterally every fight was just breech breech breech.

>>724174454
BG2 was disastrous to the Western RPG because it started the trend of romance being the focal point to the RPG.

>>724174717
>No, why do they have to?
Because they dont own the IP and have to do as they were told?

>>724174849
BG3 is kind of funny because it turns romance back into being a joke, which is where it belongs. Like astral projection frotting feels more tolerable and less cringe than pregnant aerie somehow.

>>724173720
1 has soul, and 2 at the time felt much better but now its just a equally out of date old game... except without the same soul.
If you are ADHD 1 may be a bridge too far though.

>>724174724
no you mongoloid, its YOU who came here to preach thinking you are in some elite circle by playing other games
>>724169225

>>724174849
>wrpg
>romance
Anything but.
Honestly hate romances in games because they're all insanely shallow due to romance blossoming in hours over like, 4 sentences shared between each other.

>>724161841
div2 shits on bg3 but since theres no sex these coomers dont care

>>724175090
But I do believe myself to be above people who only play rpgs, that's cringe

>>724174941
And what do you imply they were told to do?

>>724139307
BG3 is 1/3 of a game.

>>724175398
Follow the canon that the IP holder gave them.

>>724128697 (OP)
BG3 made you chuddy 2D game non canon LOL

>>724128697 (OP)
Playd through the whole trilogy 2 times and would not want to touch it again. The first playthrough was very satisfactory but on successive runs even with different choices it didn't faze me much anymore. I don't know how people replay this constantly and hail it as jesus of videogames when it's just solid but that's it.
Also the battle system fucking sucks especially later on, it's just wizard fellating each other while the rest is standing around playing cards until they're done.

>>724175398
Not that anon, but take a look at Siege of Dragonspear.
That was originally meant to be BG3 but WOTC put a hard stop to it because they don't want any games being made on 2nd edition instead of 5

I imagine WOTC are super anal about the IP and micromanage everything judging by how Larian all but confirmed they'll never work with them again.

>>724174101
tranny show

>>724128697 (OP)
old clunky shit mogged by pillars, pathfinder, divinity original sin and baldur 3

>>724161114
its not a woman

>>724175693
>old clunky shit mogged by pillars
1800-come on now

>>724175467
If you do not want to elaborate on your point, because you don't have one, why do you reply at all? It just looks silly.
>>724175596
That's not true. No way SoD was meant to be BG3. Beamdog wanted to do BG3 after SoD, but WotC didn't let them. For various reasons, including that they didn't give a shit about a studio that made a game in a 2nd edition engine.

>>724163290
Shut the fuck up and quit whining, moeblob. You are not the board police. You are not a janitor.

>>724170946
Wargames are not even remotely fun compared to RPGs.

>>724176081
Beamdog said they were interested in making BG3 all the way back in 2012
WOTC told them no but they negotiated an expansion to baldur's gate instead. SoD pivoted to that, which is why it's essentially an entire game length of its own.

>>724176763
Is SoD good? Based on the quality of other EE content (especially when it comes to writing) I assume it's not?

>>724175872
tourists are now pretending pillars is good because it added turn based combat

>>724128697 (OP)
Arcanum is better in every way. Planescape is better. Fallout 2 is better and it's not even best fallout. Even disco is better. Ultima holds better than this. Might and magic too
You don't even play bg1 and 2, you spend dozens of hours in pause and try to not use your abilities because retarded system punishes you with resting mechanic.
Combat sucks, rpg system sucks, dialogues suck, items suck. Whats so great about it? It fails as a pnp rng emulation, it fails to be a good video game. It's just not good.

>>724176839
I'd give it a 6/10, worth playing for the $2 it goes on sale for and nowhere near as bad as people hyped up.
Its combat encounters were designed by one of the big BG1&2 combat modders so all but one is pretty good, the areas all look amazing and them bringing back a bunch of the VA's to reprise their roles was fantasticbar imoen who apparently became a smoker in the last 20 years

Problem is they managed to make a story that at best rivals BG1 and at worst is atrocious. Since it takes place between BG1 and 2 you get 0 character power spikes or development because they don't want you to be overleveled for 2. It's definitely worth playing if you like infinity engine games combat but if you expect a coherent story you're in for a bad time.

>>724173134
You clearly never played BG2, Divinity OS 3 is cool and all, but it doesn't compare in tone, atmosphere, and adventure feeling. BG2 is like, playing inside a really good fantasy novel, while BG3 is like, playing inside some Marvel DnD slop movie

>>724128697 (OP)
it's pretty good I just wish I wasn't compelled to always play 1 and 2 back to back

>>724177391
This is bait

>>724154896
I started BG1 EE recently, and the game is fantastic. The early game is brutal, though, so be prepared because I wasn't and got fucked in the ass by every mage encounter

>>724177391
You clearly never played BG3, Diablo OS 2 is cool and all, but it doesn't compare in tone, atmosphere, and adventure feeling. BG3 is like, playing inside a really good fantasy novel, while BG2 is like, playing inside some Marvel DnD slop movie

>skipping bg1
don't

>>724177610
i was playing on that retro machine earlier but was having sound and visual hiccups but i am about to start again on a modern machine and i will beat the mages!

>>724177657
>The left can't meme

Bg1/2 is like a fun fantasy book, reading requires some work, theres no instant dopamine reward at every step, you also need modicum of imagination to appreciate it. Meanwhile BG3 is a modern Netflix tv schlock aimed at women.

>>724178767
>just imagine it's not shit
It's morrowind all over again

>>724179610
>reading is too hard
bg3 playebase ladies and gentlemen

>>724141384
Agreed it's boring as shit. In BG2 you can zoom around, skip through dialogue, and smash encounters fast, if you want. Characteristic of a real video game.

>>724178259
>>>/pol/

Bg3 is like a fun fantasy book, reading requires some work, theres no instant dopamine reward at every step, you also need modicum of imagination to appreciate it. Meanwhile BG2 is a modern Netflix tv schlock aimed at women.

>>724171669
I'm 67% sure it doesn't matter when you install the UI mod

>>724128697 (OP)
Used to consider it an all-time fave, but tried replaying it last year, hasn't aged well at all. The gameplay is just very tedious and there's all sorts of meta you have to follow unless you want to have a bad time (e.g. dealing with level drain).

>the anti-BG3 shitposter is an incel
kek

>>724176987
ywnbaw

>>724128903
Same, just can't help myself.

>BG3 spammer is a projecting tranny
kek

>>724128960
One of the /v/ mods is mentally ill and paid by Tencent to promote Baldur's Gate. Particularly 3 since they wasted hundreds of millions on a eurojank crpg.
They are desperate for actual sales since the game was botted. So they even pay a janny here to shill any bg game. Hoping they will buy 3.

isn't it a bit boring?

>>724128903
Honest question how? It's so dated, clunky, and boring. Is nostalgia that potent of a drug?

>>724182242
I first played it a few years ago and it seemed fine to me.
Don't think I'll come back yearly but it did make me play all of the other games on the engine.

>>724182242
not as potent as estrogen

>>724182242
>clunky, and boring
thats bg3