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Anonymous No.724159102 [Report] >>724159227 >>724159342 >>724159352 >>724159421 >>724161531 >>724162081
Videogames are toys
Anonymous No.724159227 [Report]
>>724159102 (OP)
He's right and the industry at large would be better off if it understood its place and the dynamics of video games.

Everything video games do trying to be high-art makes them less of video games and more of shittier movies that have to account for the player being a retard.
Anonymous No.724159340 [Report]
>entertainment can't be art
>"products" can't have any artistic vision
I hate retards for establishing this false dichotomy. Just because something is created to entertain doesn't mean that it can't have underlying meaning behind it.
Shakespeare wrote plays for the English monarchy.
Anonymous No.724159342 [Report] >>724162114
>>724159102 (OP)
and his games are good unlike the wannabe auteurs like kojoma and druckman
Anonymous No.724159352 [Report]
>>724159102 (OP)
They aren't toys, but entertainment games.
Same thing as board games not being toys, but games.
They aren't art and don't need to be.
Anonymous No.724159418 [Report]
that's because Miyamoto wants to deliver a high quality products most of the time and not snake-oil-slop like other suits.
Anonymous No.724159421 [Report]
>>724159102 (OP)
He's right though. A product can still tell a beautiful story but a product is a product first and foremost.
Anonymous No.724159461 [Report]
They're not toys, they are Minature Gardens.
Anonymous No.724159607 [Report]
Are still sold in Toy stores in Japan and Europe?
Anonymous No.724161531 [Report]
>>724159102 (OP)
If you read Ask Iwata, it's said Miyamoto even in the NES era if he'd have a clever idea and a prototype was made, he'd take them to a Nintendo employee who isn't involved in the game or hadn't previous played it to playtest.

Then if the employee didn't understand the game, he'd see that as a personal failure and he'd redo the game or mechanic to be better geared to be understood/enjoyable. They're products because there's an iterative approach to feedback and improvement which makes them product.

Whereas a piece of art is something that is made a very certain way based on the creators feelings and isn't adapted to feedback whether a consumer understands it or not. You don't playtest and adjust art based on the viewers thoughts or their ability to understand it.
Anonymous No.724162081 [Report]
>>724159102 (OP)
>Miyamot
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What did OP mean by this?
Anonymous No.724162114 [Report]
>>724159342
Kojima is a hack but he should not be mentioned in the same breath as cuckman who is just a parasite.