Thread 724183060

How powerful was clover by the end of undertell yeller? Was the geno really for the pursuit of justice, or was it for the sake of LOVE?

>>724183060 (OP)
Who cares? Fuck monsters.

This is so fucking gay and tryhard, you are literally 15 or autistic OP

>>724183060 (OP)
>How powerful was clover by the end of undertell yeller?
By UT human standards pretty average.
>Was the geno really for the pursuit of justice, or was it for the sake of LOVE?
I don't think there was a difference for him.

>>724183358
This guy gets it

>>724183060 (OP)
This is like that photo realistic Frisk meme

>>724183358
>Fuck monsters.
Agreed.

Good news everyone, I can draw tile based graphics now.

>>724183060 (OP)
>use bug spray on an anthill
>my LOVE goes to 20 and the spray can fuses to my hand

>>724183060 (OP)
Lv19 Clover should have tossed his gun and used finger bullets instead (badass)

>>724184035
Is that basically notepad you're using to make your game? Also not sure why you're developing it in Windows XP, seems like it's self-limiting.

>>724183060 (OP)
>Was the geno really for the pursuit of justice

Yes. It's interesting how the narrative rewards Clover for actually following his SOUL trait while punishing him in pacifist for abandoning any notion of justice. I wonder how other fan games will handle this.

>>724183060 (OP)
>By UT human standards pretty average.
It's not like we have other examples of LV20 humans in UT besides Frisk/Chara

No one cares about your shitty irrelevant fanfic game.
Here we tobychads only talk about Undertale and Deltarune
>"But Toby said!"
He said many things. Shut up.

>>724183843
eww lesbians

>>724185452
I don't get what causes people to dismiss fanworks just because they aren't official™, what causes this mindset
Happens a lot in the pokemon fandom

>>724185013
>Is that basically notepad you're using to make your game?
That's not Notepad, that's FB IDE, which is an integrated development environment for FreeBASIC. Though, an IDE is basically just a text editor with a built in compiler, code formatting, and error checking.

All games are fundamentally made this way, since even if they use a premade engine, someone still has to code the engine in a text editor or IDE.

>Also not sure why you're developing it in Windows XP,
That's just what OS my PC runs. My actual targets are Windows 95 and DOS.

>seems like it's self-limiting.
Limitations make games better. They make most things better.

>>724184808
That's why you should have fist fought them.

>>724185474
surprisingly, riley is a boy

>>724185838
Val looks so weird in that pic

>>724183843
I need a girl who can treat me like this

>>724185950
>those eyelashes
>boy
yeah sure, whatever makes her- I mean him happy

>>724185026
I think it would be interesting to see red get explored from that lens. If its determination, and determination is will power, then imagine the player getting punished for doing things the easy way and backing down, until eventually they lose their power altogether.

>>724183060 (OP)
You are one ugly son of a bitch. Guess you got what you deserved

>>724185013
>Is that basically notepad you're using to make your game?
This is only tangentially related, but for the last couple weeks I've been using an editor without LSP properly set up. The hit to my productivity is really nowhere as bad as I thought it would be.
The big thing I do quite miss is the ability to go-to-definition.

>>724185365
Who is this sped?

>>724185950
...But he is the girl in the relationship

>>724186557
Who is this?

>>724186941
>>724186372
how big is Luna's cock?

>>724185452
Nice opinion, now bend over and get ready to take five hundred bones in your ass

Halloweens coming up, Martlets going as a human, shes already got the hat!

>>724183843
Is this game out yet?

>>724187745
Where are her pants?

>>724187831
demo next year, trust the plan™

>>724187151
0 inches, but she can wear a strap-on upon request.
...Which for Riley is every other day.

>>724183060 (OP)
This meme was already edgy fanfiction with UT Genocide and it makes no sense at all with Clover, he's not the edgy "demon" "murderboy"
He spares Martlet twice and you literally get to see what he's thinking at the end of Justicide, there's really not any ambiguity here

>>724186435
>>724186941
>>724188836
Seeing anons go from "based hmofa chad Riley" to actively emasculating him and joking about him being a rape victim sure is something
I won't complain tho, this shit is funny as hell

What are some interesting directions you could take character development of the protagonist in the genocide route. In Undertale Frisk becomes little more than the player making numbers go up so he can see everything. In UTY Clover became the avatar of justice, killing everyone who involved with the fate of the fallen humans, no matter how minor their role in it was. What's next?

Me personally, I had the idea of the player character being like D-fens in falling down. Starting off relatively reasonable in his actions, if extreme, but slowly losing his shit over the course of all the killing, until eventually he's a lunatic who kills anyone who crosses him.

>>724189770
I'm not the one making outright rape jokes, but I still see the relationship as mostly femdom and make jokes according to that.
Anyway, I think the fandom will have more to discuss and move away from this humor once the game actually drops. Maybe then we can see a different side of Riley.
(By that I mean the geno route.)

>>724183060 (OP)
Remember that flowey is still a bitch.

>>724191124
soon

>>724191224
canon across all timelines

>>724183770
The happy tail wag makes me happy

>>724190974
>Anyway, I think the fandom will have more to discuss and move away from this humor once the game actually drops.
I think they might actually intensify, even more if people keep drawing Riley as a girl

>>724183358
>>724183770
Yes ending the monster races... by breeding them out of existence!

>>724185026
I sort of feel like with a lot of thing in this game was done by pure accident

I need your help anons.
I'm looking for the fic that this Zenith Martlet image was based on.
I don't know of it's been deleted or lost to time, but I've been looking forever.

https://files.catbox.moe/xe05o5.png

>>724191857
I know what fic you're referring to, and your going to have a hard time finding traces of it.
I believe it was a03 at first, but then the guy deleted his account and the story.
So unless saved it, and posted the contents here, it's likely to be lost forever.

>>724191224
>kanako's tail wags faster after cole holds her hand
cute

>>724191221
my current playthrough is the shades of justice mod and it's interesting to play the game without flowey constantly hovering over me as much as he usually does

>>724191857
Good luck finding that fic anon.
Your best bet is hoping someone else makes a brand new fic Zenith Martlet and Clover fic, featuring what's in the image.

>>724185365
How many of these come from games that are still alive?

Martlet and Zartlet models are complete.
https://files.catbox.moe/lijb3j.png

>>724186903
looks more like a spud

>>724194028
Huh, neat.
You know, it still strikes me as weird that it took this long for a model like this to be made for another UTY character. To my knowledge the only character to have an nsfw model before this was Ceroba, but I'm not even sure the rest of the cast have even basic non-nsfw models for them.

>>724191857
>>724192328
>>724192876
To anyone that's read it can you describe what happened in it, aside from the obvious.

>DT barely gets threads
>UTY still gets threads
Is it really that much better???

>>724191224
DRYanon, please implement this

>>724192705
UTY if it was a Goobsmooch skit

>>724194740
for what it's worth, it depends entirely on the character and whether or not someone wants to take the time to make the model. Kris, for example, doesn't really have one. Susie and Noelle only got models that weren't heavily stylized just recently.
You can commission them, but that's not a cheap proposition.

>>724194849
From what I remember there was an unbirth fic that wasn't on ao3, wattpad or any fanfic website you'd normally think of. There may have also been a second unbirth fic that was mentioned on /v/ once, but far as I know it was never found even at the time. It was just a short description that was never linked to any other fic, not even the other one I mentioned.

>>724194976
These threads are mostly an excuse to keep our local fangame devs motivated, if these threads stop being made, then all the devanons will turn into dust

>>724195396
I can distinctly remember that unbirth pic was based on a story of some kind, and the drawanon then drew the Zenith Martlet pic that was based on that story.
But people kinda forget about the image, and the story, until someone did some digging and found the image.
After that the image, the concept, and discussions about soul getting reborn as monster became a popular topic.

>>724188104
On the floor, why?

>still no return to form
my form... it isn't being returned to

>>724197649
I still have no clue what happens in it or why clover's a lizard. From what I heard, it's a slice of life story on the surface, so I thought that the lizard part was random and frankly unnecessary.

>>724194028
are you going to release it anywhere?

>>724185838
>>724185950
>>724186094
>>724186941
>Riley looks effeminate, is soft spoken and always tries to avoid conflict
>Val is hot headed, always has smug grin of his face and acts like an asshole
I can already feel it and I hate it, fujos are going to go crazy once they discover the existance of Wildfire and Naranja, if Val were taller or Riley shorter they would fit pretty much all of the stereotypical yaoi pair tropes

>>724195732
This unironically, finishing my fangame is high on the list of my reasons to live.

>>724197649
make one in your head

>>724198268
not the maker, but they're both up on smutbase
https://files.catbox.moe/7xeeb7.png

>>724191326
except the ones where momroba is a thing
unless...

>>724199463
for all we know, incest is legal in the underground

>>724198046
Sig had a lizard version of Clover he liked to draw. That's why Clover is a lizard.

>>724198801
Its funnier if Val is short and masculine, while Riley is a 6'4" twink

>>724198046
it isn't quite a slice of life, there is a set goal to the story which is stopping melody
the humans were reborn as boss monsters because flowey didnt have enough human matter to make human bodies, so he had to make do with magic bodies

>>724183843
>>724183770
Can you guys elaborate on how these fan games are good at anything besides appealing to hmofa shit?

>>724199818
Asgore legalized it for Chara and Asriel

>>724199463
We need an adoptive incest Kanaclover fic

>>724200024
>besides appealing to hmofa shit
Does it need anything else...?
But you answer your question, these are actual games. At least, they're supposed to be.

>>724200024
yellow itself doesn't have any HMOFA, and it is a fully finished fangame and is competently made, there are some roughs spots (like the start and ending) but otherwise it is an okay to good game average. the HMOFA in yellow come from fanworks where people just want to see clover and kanako together
wildfire isn't released yet but its premise has some HMOFA on the side (and that's a good thing), but otherwise we don't know much of where the story will go since the demo isn't out yet

>>724200024
They're more Undertale. If you like Undertale, you'll probably like them. Likable characters, funny writing, good music, fun gameplay, engaging story

>>724200181
>taller kanako
perfection

>>724200550
>shattered decade kanako is shorter
I'll still take it but it did disappoint me a bit

Sex with animal women.

>>724199960
It is funnier that way, but that's not how fujos work, the dominant one always has to be taller

>>724200241
There's a pattern I've noticed with these fangames.
>Fangames before UTY (including UTY) didn't include HMOFA
>Fangames after UTY include HMOFA (or adjacent)
Dreemurr Reborn is the only pre-UTY fangame that gets to claim it had a romance between leads, and even then it was only between monsters.

>>724200967
I like the fire girl from naranja though

>>724200024
le heckin' worldbuildingerino, mostly. I'll admit I picked up DRY after someone told me it leaned into shipping the protagonists but it does a good job at remixing the characters enough for me to try and lay out timelines of certain events and determine the relationships between people using the limited information provided to me, much like UTDR. My favorite DRY interpretation is Starlo, who's much more mature and responsible than his UTY counterpart due to a much better upbringing but is still a nerd for cowboy stuff at heart, sharing his favorite movies with Cole and such.

>>724201081
>>Fangames after UTY include HMOFA (or adjacent)
Besides DRY and Wildfire what fangames feature HMOFA?

>>724201012
Undertale fujos are different. They like manlets.

>>724200967
>>724201138
What other non-animal sexable women could exist in fangames? Personally I think plant/flower women are underrated

>>724200550
Of course she is going to be tall. Have you seen how tall Ceroba and Chujin are?

>>724201081
I think it has more to do with Deltarune than UTY itself. Deltarune made people crave HMOFA with its constant ship baiting, and it refused to deliver, so now people turn to fangames for it.

Can you name the fangames in this pic?

>>724191857
Momlet milk https://files.catbox.moe/9bde85.png

>>724201473
>UT (duh)
>futility (formerly reflection)
>brave and bold
>kindness (dead)
>kindred spirits
>yellow
>cyan (likely dead)
>cyan (still alive, barely)
>?
>wildfire
>promise
>?
>lavander
>switched
>green starring cody
>?
>that one dead green
>some yellow take thats dead
>the green one with just humans
>?
>patience?

>>724201243
tl;dr most of the monster pairings you see in >>724201473 were announced after UTY
there's a decent amount of post-Yellow fangames not in this image and a lot of them include human-monster pairings

>>724201713
and over half of them are on hiatus/dead
and I don't think many of those pairings are romantic

>>724201439
Possessed suits of armor. Particularly seductive pieces of sentient furniture.

>>724201439
Robot probably

>>724201989
>is that....CHAIRIEL? OH MY GAWD IM GOONING AAAAAAGGGH

>>724202775
what would the sexy chairiel darkner look like?

>>724203195
Toriel clone made of fabric that sits on enemies

>>724201989
>Possessed suits of armor
Funnily enough, I have a living armor as one of the main bosses in my fangame, but he is a guy, so no living armor waifu

>>724194028
Very nice model.
Mammalian features on a bird, even if anthro, are a little off-putting. When they're covered up like in >>724199463 it's peak

>>724203324
Does she have a disproportionately huge ass?

>>724203378
I have a possessed armor couple in mine. So I guess if they were freaky enough, you might be able to talk them into a threesome.

>>724201689
The one between cyan and wildfire is "The First Human" its a comic and not a fangame, people here make fun of it because of the author's barely disguised foot fetish

>>724203572
every thread I learn something new

>>724203572
>first human
>has flowey and the entire current UT cast
>author pulled the "its just an AU!" card when people called him out

>>724203572
I find it infinitely funny that he keeps trying to pass off him obviously inserting his fetish into it as completely innocent happenstance, and keeps calling everyone else weirdos for noticing.

>>724203789
You can see her feet in almost every panel that includes her, its so blalant it becomes funny

>>724203789
In his defense your gambits in that scenario are either deflecting or flat-out admitting it, neither of which are good but they got themselves into that easily avoidable scenario

>>724203789
The author actually changed the way she drew Marine’s feet because of how obvious it was

>>724203789
You can look at their explanation and draw your own conclusion from it

>>724204239
oyyyyy my goooooood

>>724204054
the proper solutions are to either own it or don't acknowledge it. This is the worst path he could have taken. Undertale as a fandom is lousy with weirdos and fetishists, no one is going to bat an eye at some foot fetishist making his character barefoot, the same way no one cares if a shotafag keeps pairing Kris with Dess, or rape-posts about Noelle.

>>724204239
>She breathes through her skin

>>724203572
There's an older compilation by an anon as evidence, though to be fair, the character is always barefoot
I really think it could go either way

>>724204364
>no one is going to bat an eye at some foot fetishist making his character barefoot, the same way no one cares if a shotafag keeps pairing Kris with Dess, or rape-posts about Noelle.
Oh you seem to be mistaken, the Undertale fandom is divided in two groups, the pariahs which include the stuff you mentioned and the mainstream fandom, who are insanely trigger happy when it comes to cancellations and will looks for anything to try and ruin your life, the first human comic appears on the Underevent, what do you think will happen if this guy admits to have inserted his foot fetish in his comic featuring an underage character as the main target of said fetish?

>>724204925
He's in Underevent? How? Do they not know?

>>724198801
I think there's gonna be more comparisons drawn between Riley and Harvey (from UT Orange) since most normies are unaware of fangames that come from /v/
I really don't like how Harvey's shirt barely covers him in this

>>724205403
if naranjanon puts out a competent demo, then val will be known

>>724205403
Forgot to mention last week that there was an anthro girl in this game who travels with the player
Now are you interested?

>>724197649
im working on it slowly but surely, writer's block is a bitch

>>724184035
>BASIC
more like BASED-IC. rock on, brother.

>>724206189
Its not like BASIC is extinct as a concept. FreeBASIC still gets updates, Microsoft still makes new versions of Visual BASIC, Blitz BASIC is still around.

>>724184808
Rookie shit

>>724201989
Avoid going down the sexy furniture path, I've read that SCP (before they censored it) and it destroys relationships, destroys LIVES

reminder that ceroba is fat

>>724204364
fair point I didn't consider that

>>724183358
Correct.

>>724208175
Oh really?

Slow hours

Ceroba was always Good and Based.

Ceroba was always Bad and Cringe.

would starlo make the feisty five spam pro-ceroba posts in UTY threads

redditlet will never be good

>>724215832
>dalv after his cabin fell apart

>>724205403
I feel like the reason people keep comparing Val and Riley (besides one of them being made here) is because how opposite their personalities are, its like Val had every personality trait from Riley inverted, that's naturally going to make people draw a lot of parallels

>>724218083
>That many souls
At this point he's just killing them for sport.

I want, NEED more Underfell edgekino

>>724183060 (OP)
>Was the geno really for the pursuit of justice
Yes.
Justice was always the purpose, but LOVE fueled the pursuit of that purpose.
Everything Clover did was justified and calculated.
Yes, even seeking out and stomping the quirk chungus bluebird.
Destroying powerful, driven monsters is a good.
Rescuing the human souls and leading them to freedom is good.
Justice Clover even succeeded in not being possessed by Chara unlike Frisk, probably owing to his powerful conviction.

>>724186471
I like the idea, but...
Wouldn't an inversion of Determination be something more like:
> Going with the flow
> Giving in to external pressures
> Ceding decisions to others
> Being indecisive or not following through.

>>724219738
>Everything Clover did was justified and calculated
Why did he shoot Starlo AFTER Starlo revealed he didn't load his gun with real ammo and gave up?

Tranny thread

>>724220120
Destroying a powerful and driven monster.
One that lesser monsters will rally around.

>>724201705
And then she becomes a 9-ft tall spoon lol.

>>724220213
>driven
He literally couldn't bring himself to kill Clover, how is he driven?

The Mooch.

>>724219738
this is a really badass based post