Thread 724464057

name a better controller
protip: you cant
it just works
>inb4 stick drift
consider not treating your devices like they're stress toys, mentally stunted manchild

>>724464057 (OP)
the d-pad is godlike

>>724464057 (OP)
Stick drift is a given. When you use friction to maintain tension, the parts wear down. Replacing the pots is easy if you're not retarded, though.

>>724464057 (OP)
based op

>>724465275
I do need more though. Give me some more triggers and a few more face buttons, this thumb and forefinger ONLY meme needs to end

>>724464057 (OP)
post cute gentle boi-hands.

>>724464057 (OP)
I like the Xbone one better honestly
Perfect D-pad

>>724465756
what if you want to push diagonal on it tho? series sex is way easier for this.

Can't stand asymmetric sticks. Also having a switch to make the triggers digital or analog is so nice.

>>724465967
I just hit diagonal? It's not hard

>>724464057 (OP)
>consider not treating your devices like they're stress toys, mentally stunted manchild
The only way to minimize the potential of stick drift is to use it less or better never.

>>724465275
I need to be able to aim.

>>724466949
I've been using my controller for 5 years and it's still working perfectly. Consider not treating your devices like they're stress toys, mentally stunted manchild

>>724464057 (OP)
Sorry, I don't play boring games like you.

>>724469135
OR I could buy a cheaper controller with better sticks, better d-pad, gyro, a charging station, extra buttons with full customization, both xinput and d-input, and both bluetooth and wireless lagless dongle. And then do whatever the fuck I want with it.

>>724466949
Or maybe don't ram your sticks with full force into the corners like I see a lot of retards do.

>>724469135
My third party controller I bought two years ago still works fine.

The three XSX controllers I bought all developed double d-pad inputs within 2-3 months of owning them.

>>724464057 (OP)
>name a better controller
Literally anything with gyro.

>>724465756
Shittiest fucking dpad in the world, I've given up on platformers completely until I get a new controller

>>724464057 (OP)
>No gyro on a modern handheld controller aimed at 3D games after USB/bluetooth became the standard
Why would you ever use this?
Obsolete controller that is good at nothing.
>>724467053
It's not even just aiming. Modern control schemes make movement dependent on camera orientation as well, and they don't have a sane camera that just works without the player needing to fuck with it constantly.

>>724472101
>>724472394
>>724472461
>gyrocord out of nowhere

>>724472402
It's literally perfect for 2d platformers

>>724472601
Stiff and clicky, fucking awful

>>724472690
but enough about your 8shitdo gameSAAAAARS shit

>>724472601
What does it even mean? It registers a left input when you press left? Whop-die-fucking-doo!
It still sucks for games that require complex motion inputs because of its anal actuation.

>>724464057 (OP)
i might as well ask here. I play a lot of 90s stuff and i use the ps4 controller and 8bitdopro. Frankly they both have subpar dpads for older games, they are too rough and feel more like buttons than a dpad which is fair i guess since most games now just use them as extra buttons. What controller has a good dpad for stuff like snes platformers/action games. I want something reaponsive and comfortable, since most stuff feels way too stiff and causes my hand to get tired.

I have two of them. It's a mediocre controller especially after the price hike

>>724464057 (OP)
Stick drift is caused by the shitty potentiometers wearing out, hall effect sensors cost next to nothing when bought in bulk, no amount of care is going to prevent a shitty potentiometer stick from drifting, shut the fuck up shill

>>724464057 (OP)
I had exclusively used playstation controllers for my entire life so I never got how people were comfortable using pads for fighting games but I recently got one of these controllers and I completely get it now. The dpad for that thing feels so fucking good.

>>724472756
I don't share your grievances whatsoever, but if you want something different, then try SN30 aka the saturn clone. That d-pad is out of this world.

>>724464057 (OP)
Unusable thanks to the dpad's clickyness, its unbearable to listen to

uh oh snoytendies found the thread!!!

>>724472919
Just use a silencer.

>>724472858
Really? The dpad looks like the same dpad as the ones in 8bitdo pro 2

>>724473438
I meant M30. My bad.

>>724473786
oh ok, thanks. Might give it a try, i should probably just have a dedicated 2d old school controller anyway

>>724465967
>/v/ literally wants to fuck everything
This place needs to be destroyed

>>724464057 (OP)
8bitdo ultimate 2, additional bumpers, tmr sticks, hall triggers.

>>724474151
How are the extra bumpers? I personally prefer back paddles but ive been considering this controller, are the extra bumpers comfortable to use?

>>724474253
I like it. They are like this. Better, than paddles, because I won't press them by accident.

Are the full specs for the Vader 5 out yet?

>>724472131
Or maybe the multi-trillion dollar company can stop using shitty cheap technology on their controllers and get with the times.

>>724464057 (OP)
I just can't change it to anything now. I tried shilled Tarantula, I tried shilled Vaider, but it is the best. The next best to it was the standard Logitech one, which I always advise to people when they ask.

The only "people" still buying first party controllers in 2025 are retards.

>>724474417
I dont mind paddles because im aware of them. Those to me look like id press the other two shoulder/trigger buttons trying to press them. Is the controller small or bulky?

>>724464057 (OP)
anyone else's face buttons (A in my case) become less sensitive? other buttons register as soon as they're pressed down, with A I have to press it down and then some more for it to register

>>724464057 (OP)
>no gyro

>>724475239
A bit smaller than xbox1

>>724472504
What's bad about gyro?

>>724475578
>what's bad about gimmicks

>>724475578
His favorite megacorporation doesn't feature it on their controllers. That makes it bad.

>>724475654
>being able to aim without needing the game to do it for you is a gimmick
Why not just go back to dpads too and just make the game creatively interpret which direction you want to go instead of using sticks for 100% control while we're at it? Hell, why not drop the whole "game" business and just watch movies?

>>724475239
nta but I have 2 of those controllers and I've never once accidentally pressed those buttons. It's actually the smartest implementation of extra buttons I've seen.

>>724464057 (OP)
the wii u pro controller is the best controller I have ever used

>>724475654
gyro is fun when playing light gun/on-rail shooters

>>724477028
It's great for literally any shooters, hell any game with aiming.

>>724477532
i dont think is that fun for fps/tps... sure it might be functional, but not that fun

>>724477637
I find it extremely fun. It's also imo the most immersive way to aim short of VR stuff since you need to hold the controller steady just like a real gun. No such thing with a mouse, the friction provides natural stabilization.

>>724475343
Okay, i have big hands, would that make it difficult to use?

>>724475979
Sounds good, I'll get one and try it out.

>>724477637
Fair I guess. It's still better than sticks though even if it's not more fun per say.

>>724477964
>Okay, i have big hands, would that make it difficult to use?
I don't have your hands, how would I know? I had x1 before this, it was fine. This one is fine too.

>>724477889
i can see why it would be fun to use in VR... but i dont have VR

>>724478928
That's not what I said. I said it's the most immersive that isn't VR.

>>724478980
ok but still, VR is a good usecase for gyro enabled controllers

>>724464057 (OP)
xbox controllers are overpriced dogshit for goyslaves who only keep buying them because the garbage 360 pad was babbies pc pad.
they dont even come with a battery pack.

>>724472131
why? because microsoft cheaped out on parts?

>>724479365
>they dont even come with a battery pack
dont you have rechargable batteries for your walkman already?

>>724474151
I thought about getting this or the cheaper Ultimate 2C but my experience with third party controllers was never good

>>724464057 (OP)
I was apprehensive about finally upgrading my controller, but holy shit they really are the best controller ever made.
>>724464176
It makes so much difference.

a friend of mine sold me his for $20 since it had drift, it was pretty much new, and i know he treats them really really well, for example it had 0 wear on the thumbstick's shaft which is often really worn after being used by brute people

>>724464057 (OP)
>name a better controller
The 360 controller, that fucker is just the perfect size and shape for my hands.

>>724464057 (OP)
>consider not treating your devices like they're stress toys, mentally stunted manchild
The controller that came with my Series X got stick drift after gentle use within 4 months. They're built to break.

>>724464057 (OP)
360 controller

>>724464057 (OP)
>no gyro

>>724482703
STOP TALKING ABOUT GYRO
NO ONE WANTS GYRO

>>724481842
If they just re-released the 360 controller without the battery tumor on the back and a better D-Pad that's what I would use.

>>724481906
Yep, the way they are designed they are quite literally a "wear" item. A metal sweeper scrapes across a carbon pad to register your input. They WILL eventually wear and "drift".

>>724472792
that’s just not true
stop treating your controllers like shit and wash your fucking hands

>>724483070
Nope. Never happened to me.

>>724464176

It's actually the most divisive thing about the controller.

>>724483268
Then you're either lucky, barely play games, or are a liar.

>>724464057 (OP)
>>inb4 stick drift
>consider not treating your devices like they're stress toys, mentally stunted manchild
All my 3 xbone controllers did nothing but sit on a fucking desk, and they all developed stick drift in less than a year. It's my favorite controller, but implying that the recent models aren't 100% GARBO is ridiculous.

>>724481797
>a friend of mine sold me his for $20 since it had drift
If it had drift, then why the fuck did you buy it? Fucking moron, holy shit...

>>724474128
blame the fucktard who thought naming their consoles "series s" and "series x" was a good idea

>>724484491
I don't play games, I don't even own one
Never happened to me.

>>724483010
>dpad: 360 >:(
>dpad: saturn :O

>>724484987
Just because a d-pad has a circular top doesn't mean it works the same underneath, retard

>>724464057 (OP)
This and wireless adapter + rechargable AA batteries is the most convenient combo for PC gaming

Just buy a Flydigi 4 pro

>>724485078
the 360 dpad is underrated. i just used it today

>>724484772
because its piss easy to fix or are you too retarded to replace a potentiometer you fucking moron, holy shit...

>>724485109
https://gamepadla.com/flydigi-vader-4-pro.html
>Wired B, Wireless B

>>724482931
Yeah, because you can't aim and don't want to be forced to learn

>>724486640
You cannot tell the difference between 20ms delay and 10ms input delay.

>>724464057 (OP)

The face buttons feel needlessly hard to push down for someone like me, my fingers bleed over time because of the force required

>>724485109
Vader 4 Pro is pretty good
too bad you have to download a shitty launcher that phones home and sends your info to China to change the settings

>>724464057 (OP)
the earlier version with the + dpad instead of that circular one

>>724488058
I trust them because I work at a Fortune 500 company, where I installed the software on company computers. So far, there have been no leaks of internal information to China investors so it should be safe.

>>724475654
A handheld controller sacrifices the ability to turn arm or wrist movements into something productive and you waste 2-4 fingers unproductively on holding it instead of having them ergonomically available to press buttons, gyro at least gives you back the ability to turn those arm and wrist movements into something productive that has much greater fidelity than what you can achieve with an analog thumbstick.
Dual analog is honestly much more of a gimmick than gyro is, since it doesn't actually do anything useful for most games that wouldn't be better achieved by coding in a better camera or using a better input device, like a mouse.

>>724464057 (OP)
How good are the xb1 and xsx controllers compared to the 360 one? I remember the 360 one being the most overrated pc controller back then.

>>724488535
the 360 one was good, the new ones are angular and horrible, I threw mine away and use a ps4 controller instead and I have always hated dualshocks
also, this may not be the case with the xsx ones, but the xb1 ones were still powered by AA batteries and came with no rechargeable component, dogshit.

>>724464057 (OP)
>constant stick drift
>bumpers that invariably break within a year

>>724481797
I remember melting the rubber on the thumbstick after playing SF4 for a month
no, it didn't drift, the 360 elite controllers were ELITE

>>724485260
You didn't use shit, you lying faggot. If you ever held a 360 controller in your hands, you'd know how utterly useless its dpad is. It's not even an exaggeration. Precise diagonal movements are objectively impossible in that pos. People used to joke about it only existing to switch weapons.

>>724464057 (OP)
>Nintendo Switch Pro Controller
>Nintendo Switch 2 Pro Controller
>PlayStation 5 DualSense Controller
>Valve's upcoming Ibex/Triton Steam Controller
Easy

the greatest of all time

>>724464057 (OP)
I don't like how flush the L and R buttons are to the side of the controller. I accidentally press them.

Maybe the normal one is okay, but the Elite Pro 2 is the worst piece of shit I've used. It's heavy, have a bunch of shit maybe epixx 1337 pro gamerz need, but I'm never swapping the thumbsticks or whatever. But the real reason it's terrible is that the control stick snapback is utterly insane. Because it's so heavy due to using magnets, letting go of the stick will make you face the opposite direction. This makes playing any 2D game unplayable and other shit only works if you really fuck with the dead zone.

>>724493242
i almost 1cc'd mushihimesama with it. got to stage 5. it's good for shmups

>>724493723
a man of taste

>>724485808
>or are you too retarded to replace a potentiometer you fucking moron, holy shit...
Replace it over, and over, and over, and over, and over

>>724493723
>stick layout
>wireless
trash

>>724464057 (OP)
>DualSense
>DualShock 4
>360 controller
>Switch 2 Pro controller

The Xbone/Series controller is a downgrade from the 360 in every way but the triggers, d-pad, and back texturing.
>ABXY now have absurd amount of travel and you can push about 60% of the way down before they ever get recognized which feels like such ass when the 360's are instantly recognized.
>Guide button is not only flush to the controller which causes issues even pushing it down but then it also has such a ridiculous travel that it can be like 80% of the way down if not further and it won't notice you're pressing it.
You can literally have a part of your finger in the button hole pushing down on it and it doesn't recognize it being pushed.
>This is a major problem on the Xbone where it's the only button for taking screenshots so enjoy constantly missing the one you want to take or it being too late when you do press it.
>Bumpers feel smaller and more cramped.
>Sticks are not only smaller but have a much worse pattering on them compared to the 360's four nubs making it feel worse to push around and push accurately, especially for long periods of time.
>Is smaller than the 360 controller so it's less comfortable to hold in general.
Also
>No gyro in general holding the entire market back because of its stupidity.

DualSense is the king of the first-party controllers so far, it just needs to fix the d-pad. If the d-pad can be like the Vita it would be the de facto best controller.

>>724464057 (OP)
>playing at night

Is there any good way to check whether the controller is legit or a really visually similar repro? I think even the local retail here mostly stocks fakes

>>724494412
i used that example because replacing a potentiometer is easier than replacing the whole analog, but i got hall effect analogs for that controller and the 2 dualsense so no, no replacing over and over

>>724496687
https://dualshock-tools.github.io/ only functions with legitimate DS4, Dualsense, or Dualsense Edge
no idea for confirming other controllers

>>724464057 (OP)
Cope harder, potentiometerfag.
t. hall effect gang

>>724474151
Been using this for over a year now. It's been good, but I don't like setting up the macros for the extra buttons.

>>724499287
Oh damn, I was hoping for something to check the XSX controllers with but instead learnt my old DS4 I always assumed to be fake might actually be real, thanks

>>724484987
I made a 3d printable saturn d-pad for the 360, its nice.

>>724482931
>everyone keeps bringing up gyro
>nobody wants to talk about it
Cope
Fine, how about replaceable batteries instead of charging via cable like every other modern controller

>>724464057 (OP)
Unironically the Atari VCS controller. It’s basically Series X controller without the stick drift and bullshit battery replacement

>>724485109
They cheaped out on button switches, they go mushy after a while. It's a very common problem, LB/RB are the most susceptible, but it will happen to any that you consistently use more of.
It's the best controller otherwise.

>>724464057 (OP)
I thought stick drift was a myth until I bought a Scuff controller earlier this year and it started getting stick comically bad stick drift this month. Ive been playing games for over 30 years and I never have had stick drift on any controller. Why do I read so much about stick drift nowadays?

>>724464057 (OP)
Xbox one controller is peak

>>724487974
Maybe consider eating literally anything except pure onions and estrogen and you might have the strength to press the buttons.

>>724500589
>Why do I read so much about stick drift nowadays?
Nobody makes the modules in-house, they all buy them from the same company. The module had a redesign at some point in the late 2000's and they've all had the same fault ever since. Game companies don't care because they get to sell you a new controller every time it breaks.

>>724499907
how are they different? t. never touched a saturn dpad and love the 360 one

>>724501192
Saturn pivot is at the top, 360 one is at the bottom. Biggest difference is if you are pressing right, it goes right no matter how you wiggle you finger on the right side of the d-pad. I always found the 360 one likely to go up or down while pressing right.

>>724501538
sounds like placebo to me. maybe the saturn dpad is marginally better but the 360 is pretty high up there as far as im concerned

>>724501927
If your happy thats all that matters.
I frequently saw the comparison between saturn and 360 so I made one fit the other. It just took work because the distance between d-pad and circuit board is much greater on 360 than it is on saturn.

>>724464057 (OP)
>no gyro
it's not only a bad controller to own, it's also actively detrimental to gaming as a whole
>but muh wagglan
gyro is more inputs. you can't say n to more inputs. go play redout, and map pitch to gyro up and down instead of the right stick, and see how much more precise you can be when everything is its own input.

>>724502383
>>724499907
neat

>>724501538
nta but did you 3d print that dpad? i've always hated the 360 pad because of what you just described, it is especially bad in fighting games or any game that requires precision, but i could never find the files to print a decent one

>>724501538
>>724502383
so you think the saturn dpad is better because the shape of the case? and not the circuit board underneath? (or whatever those switches are called that register your input when you press a direction)

>>724464057 (OP)
Stick drift happens because electricity wears the metal contacts as they rub across them, causing pitting and spattering of metal. Its a guaranteed inevitability. The primary reason it was less common in older controllers was because they had massive deadzones and operated at a higher voltage which made it less susceptible to noise.
>>724472131
This will not cause stick drift, however this can damage the spring

>>724501538
>I always found the 360 one likely to go up or down while pressing right.
My Dualsense Edge does this, even though my regular Dualsense doesn't, and it presumably uses the same plastic and rubber. I'd like to mod a Saturn d-pad into both, but between Sony's shell shape being inconvenient for it up top and the inconsistent internal results between models, it feels like it'd be an annoying project.

>>724503020
Yes, its on thingiverse, but ill knock up a zip if I can find an anonfiles that works.

>>724503086
Yes, as another anon mentioned to me a while back, that d-pads need a pivot, the saturn d-pad literally pivots on the controllers outer shell.
I wouldnt say it exactly feels like a saturn, because its 3d printed and the d-pad itself is much narrower on the 360.

>>724503343
I cheated a bit as I had already remixed one of the separate d-pad segments per direction (pic) where the d-pad is 4 different bits of plastic I combined the two, so the saturn d-pad is pushing a much smaller version of the separate d-pad segments.

>>724502515
>go play redout, and map pitch to gyro up and down instead of the right stick
Hell, go play literally any shooter that supports it, or supports simultaneous controller and mouse input on PC with Steam Input. 99% of anti gyro people would realize it's better if they simply gave it a chance.

>>724504631
Just play the OoT or MM remakes on the 3DS, WWHD or TPHD on the Wii U, or BotW/TotK on the Wii U/Switch. They blatantly make aiming with the bow, slingshot, and hookshot so convenient it makes playing the normal versions agonizing, and in the case of BotW/TotK actively unfun when you turn gyro off.

I did DS4s and WiiU Pros for 6 years, then Xbox Series controllers and Switch Pro

In order of greatness

Xbox Series - exchangable batteries is a must. I'm never going back to charging controllers while playing

WiiU Pro - like 120 hours of battery life and all around a good controller

Switch Pro - like WiiU pro but worse d-pad, still godlike battery but not as good

DS4 - Sticks in the wrong place, small and weirdly shaped, 6 hour battery life tops

>>724504631
shooters are a low-hanging fruit and they already have ammunition against it. "shitty unintuitive wagglan I couldn't get used to", "worse than mouse", "hurts my wrists". redout gives an example of how you can use the thing for more than just aiming, and if not for xbox dragging everything down we'd have more stupidly complex games that could make use of multple new axis of control.

>>724504964
if you're so casual you use wireless controllers and dont feel a difference does controller choice even matter

>>724505057
Sorry I ranked your favorite controller too low

>>724505019
>if not for xbox dragging everything down we'd have more stupidly complex games that could make use of multple new axis of control.
There's actual hope now that they're dying as a brand. Since Playstation, Nintendo, and PC in general (Which has access to gyro) are going to be the main target platforms for games developers can now justify utilizing it, unless Microsoft for some reason continues to somehow hold a grip over developers with their next system's controller even though the thing will functionally be a PC you can plug any controller into now.

No anonfiles :( So I used file.io which after uploading is now
>limewire
but whatever https://limewire.com/d/RFT4Y#ekEaZxmOTE
I should have put in the readme, d-pad.stl and hub.stl need supports to print.

>>724505515
wired 360

>>724505941
Fuck also forgot to mention that the small silver screw comes from the standard xbox d-pad, there should be two of them in there, but you only need one.

>>724464057 (OP)
>name a better controller
famicom with the square buttons
*swish*

how does it feel to get owned, op?
you like getting owned, huh?
i'm your daddy

>>724464057 (OP)
I'm not using a fucking plastic stick for aiming lol

>>724505561
lmao no, they will just rename the gaming half of microsoft store to xbox, tell developers that windows does not officially support gyro (it indeed does not, you gotta rely on either steam's big picture mode or ds4windows) and continue enforcing feature parity with the one piece of hardware they will continue to manufacture
the alternative is microsoft adding native gyro support to windows but that's never happening, it's too customizable, and existing options are already too good so they will be ridiculed for making a worse version than valve and hated for breaking compatibility

>>724479365
>battery pack.
look at this noob. he wants a shitty 1000mah battery instead of using 2x 2500mah aa batteries and charging them once a month.

>>724494774
Dualsense has horrid battery life. I can finish 2 games on an xboner before it does while the dualsense needs charging twice a day.

>>724505057
You don't feel a difference either, if you're using bluetooth you're doing it wrong.

>>724505968
Wired 360 my beloved, sticks: hall effect, d-pad: saturn

Its gaming time

>>724506968
wireless 360 has 4 frames of lag, wireless everything has at least 1 frame, usually more

>>724507025
based

>>724465756
Only the first version. They ruined it in every revision.

>>724464057 (OP)
My personal top 3 are the DualSense, DualShock 4, and the Gamecube controller. Only real issue with the first two is battery life.
I've always felt like Xbox controllers are overrated just because they're easy to use on PC. They've always felt cheap and have terrible d-pads.

>>724507025
beyond based. almost same but I lucked out with the original dpad because it's actually working. don't ask me how.

>>724507827
>Only real issue with the first two is battery life.
That is too big of an issue for me to overlook. Into the trash they go.

the gulikit kk3 is a better controller for a number of reasons, but its essentially just an improved version of the S controller.

>>724494774
>If the d-pad can be like the Vita it would be the de facto best controller.
I'd love to see them bring back the Vita d-pad, but I don't hate the current one.

>>724474151
>>724474253

for anybody considering this controller, it is nice, but it is INSANELY small.

and im saying this as a small-hands person. this thing was actually unusable small. its clearly for the hands of chinamen.

>>724507827
>terrible d-pads
the ds4 has one of the worse dpads put in a controller

>>724508048
To each their own, but I think comfort is more important. I don't care if a controller has eternal battery life if it feels like shit to actually use. The DS4 and DualSense are the most comfortable controllers I've ever used, hands down, so I can cut them some slack for their battery life, although I still hope Sony fixes that sometime soon.

>>724508269
it doesn't seem to be particular small to me

>>724508297
second to the psp1000. absolutely unusable controller. take the weird divided design of the ps4 controller that makes diagonals shitty, but then FLATTEN the buttons so that you have to press them deeper than the frame of the device. really bad.

>>724508269
It'd feel better in the hand if the grips angled outward a bit more

>>724508373
do you have primordial dwarfism?

>>724508473
no it's just the same as any other controller I've used

How do I clean my xbox controller? It's getting a bit dirty...

>>724508542
ooooh no thats objectively wrong. even comparing it to another small controller like the dualshock 4 its ~20mm less wide. its got a bunched up feel

>>724508731
Just scratch out the gunk with your fingernails

>>724465756
i really like this one, just wish it had gyro. would be the perfect controller.
fuck playstation for using internal batteries, shit just dies after a few years and it's too much work replacing a battery

>>724509191
I don't think I've ever had a controller battery die, am I just insanely lucky or something? my dualshock 3s from 15 years ago are still fine

>>724509516
yes, so lucky you're defying the laws of physics right now. you're in a quantum loop.

>>724508939
Even the analog sticks?

>>724509191
>too much work
Literally just use a screwdriver to open it and swap the battery. It's like a 10 minute job. Besides, you're probably going to want a new controller anyway by the time the battery dies.

>>724465756
I like the Xbone better because it's bigger. The Series controller is just a bit smaller and different shaped and it annoys me, plus the plastic in general just feels cheap, like a Chinese clone controller from a 1000 in 1. The first run Xbone controllers feel like the 360 pads in that it's beefy, solid plastic that doesn't creak or warp or get shiny from wear in a week. Except the battery door of course, that shit is flimsier than a GBA's.

>>724509874
and you have to get a battery too from somewhere, probably import it from another country. buying used controllers on flea markets isn't always bulletproof

>>724464057 (OP)
I will never not forgive Xbox for making their ABXY layout the standard.
PlayStation's circle/cross and Nintendo's A/B were in the correct place.

>>724510258
>Xbox made it
the users made it

>>724464057 (OP)
If we're allowing modifications, Dualsense Edge.
>Extremerate clicky face buttons and rear/top shell
>TMR stick modules.
>Throw in a larger battery since I'm already opening the thing
The only issue is the money.
>Mfw my dumbass spent about as much as the controller itself new, just to make sure the controller lasts as long as possible while not feeling like shit
Unmodded and out the box, the updated 8bitdo Pro 2.

No hall effect joysticks=not a good controller.

>>724510258
Didn't Nintendo patent that layout? I thought that's why Sony used symbols instead of letters and Microsoft swapped the buttons around.

>>724510971
Microsoft is using Sega's layout.

>>724501012

I can't do what you said. It's too difficult plus I have high functioning downs

Switch 2 Pro is my new favorite but still waiting for a way to use it on PC

>>724464057 (OP)
>it just works
It doesn't though
>consider not treating your devices like they're stress toys
I'm not the literal mindless animal that buys M$ hardware, so no

>>724511805
have you tried the 8bitdo adapter?

>>724511805
There is a way but it's super janky.
https://handheldlegend.github.io/procon2tool/
You go to this site, plug the controller in wired, run the tool, go to Steam, enable SteamInput, and then run the game through Steam and it should recognize it maybe. It sometimes just doesn't work.

>>724479839
i recommend the ultimate 2c
you can trust me anon

>>724508269
Give some dimensions, retard.
>8BitDo Pro 2: 154 mm
>Microsoft Xbox One and Series Controller: 153 mm
>8BitDo Ultimate and Ultimate 2: 147 mm
>8BitDo Ultimate Mini: 135 mm

>>724512406
I'll give you his dimensions: morbidly obese.

>>724512406
You forgot some.
>Nintendo Switch Pro Controller: 152 mm
>Sony DualSense dimensions: 160 mm

So the DualSense is biggest, then the 8BitDo Pro 2 and the official Xbox controllers are in another bracket, then the 8BitDo Ultimate is in a third bracket, and finally the tiny Ultimate Mini brings up the rear.

Reminder for Amerifats: 1 inch = 25.4 millimeters.

>>724510616
Is there a larger battery that both fits it and isn't lying about its capacity? I was looking the other day and didn't find anything convincing.

>>724464057 (OP)
Not just stick drift, the LT and RT triggers will get sticky over time as well

>>724464057 (OP)
I quit gaming so I can finally tell you guys about the razer wolverine ultimate. Yeah I know it's razer but the buttons and triggers all have the perfect springiness and activation force and travel distance. It's just a better Xbox controller

>>724514496
Also, it was really expensive five years ago but it's cheap now since it's old and replaced by the new version. Too bad the new version is SHIT since they added bluetooth but changed all the button switches to be way stiffer and stiffer buttons will tire your hands faster. But I guess some people like really clicky buttons instead of responsive buttons

>>724464057 (OP)
The dpad on that was absolute ass. Tried it in Tekken and could just see in training mode how all of my directional inputs were delayed thanks to hard clicky pad. And trying to qcf inputs just wear both of your thumb and the controller down really fast.

>>724507534
What changed in the later editions? Build quality?

>>724464176
>the d-pad is godlike

Doesn't matter when its placed in the completely wrong position, playing fighting games with it is cramp city

>>724508731
I spilled beer in my xbone series controller 3 years ago and im horrified of what plague i'll unleash on this Earth if I try to clean it.

>>724516043
Yes. They changed the bumpers to be a single brittle piece instead of 2. The d-pad didn't have as definitive of a click, either.

>>724464057 (OP)
Still uses batteries, MS's official rechargable pack sucks ass, and mine had a bumper break after 2 years of light use.

>>724508731
isopropyl alcohol + microfiber cloth or cotton swab

>>724521101
>>724508731
don't do this it creates mustard gas

>>724508731
Wipe it down and eat the crap stuck in the crevices