Thread 724483307

-t on a console.

>>724483478
works great on ps5

>>724483307 (OP)
Pic unrelated

>>724485293
t. never played it

>>724483307 (OP)
Other than the spectacle aspect, I'd say DRG is better.

>>724485541
DRG has more mechanical depth and build variety, but HD2 has that nice L4D genome that makes it really addictive, plus the whole "community decides the war's outcome" aspect gets a lot of people hooked.

>>724485932
its true im so fucking hooked to the extraction theme song its unreal

>>724485932
>plus the whole "community decides the war's outcome"
That doesn't exist in HD2, it's merely an illusion.

>>724483307 (OP)
>crashes to desktop

>>724487724
You're probably right, but it still breeds a sense of community in the players that keeps them coming back.

>>724483307 (OP)
stupid faggot game won't update it's gay anticheat

>>724483307 (OP)
>rootkit anticheat

>>724488280
>>724488582
what is that shit even for? 1: people cheat anyway. 2: nobody's gonna grief fags in a co-op shooter. it's not CoD.

>>724488673
its expressly there to make sure hackers have a harder time adding 30000 super sheckles to their account

>>724485541
DRG has better mission types and synergy with loadouts that affect movement and platforming. HD2 has better combat.

>>724487367
>>724487367
have you tried not living in a third world shithole you absolute nigger? I play from Canada and my team mates are always canadians or americans

>>724487367
just turn off crossplay

>pve coop slop
lol
lmao even

>>724488756
Kek

>>724485932
>community decides the war's outcome
fucking retard

>>724483307 (OP)
after playing this game for a year I can tell you without a doubt that sweden and arrowhead are some of the most incompetent programmers and managers I have ever fucking seen. the list of huge blunders over its release would take three posts to explain

>>724483307 (OP)
For me? It would be perfect if there were more vehicles and if they didn't take up your precious air strike slots. I want like a militarized hover bike, maybe some kind of tank unit, and a helicopter/jet.

It would be cool if we got the jeep/hove bike for free as an option (didn't take up an airstike), so if you just request a vehicle, you get one.

>MM PvE Swedeslop
lol, yeah, perfect for containment, sure.

>>724490172
the game is so held by back having to run on consoles. they could easily make larger maps or have a more robust loadout system that went on points instead of slots but instead we get what we have now
>APC thats been in the game files since release that they still wont release and when they do will probably be paywalled

>>724489616
for me is the lack of loadouts and stratagems bouncing off, granted I haven't played in like a year but I bet there are still the exact same issues only with more trash running around to kill

>>724491059
I had to stop playing after the hive worlds update. the game design is so absurdly bad and unfun.
>introduces burrowing enemies
>they are literally invincible when tunneling towards you unless you pop them out with an explosive weapon
>poor networking means you are garunteed to be hit when they burst from the ground as host
>they couldnt figure out how to patch this for several weeks
>hive lord is literally a skyscraper sized enemy but because it changes positions every 20 seconds you cant even use the biggest stratagems in the game on it
>even raking it with the most overpowered stratagems like eagle strafe and gatling barrage rarely if ever kills it
>the giant truck introduced has one (1) mounted gun with a pitiful ammo pool and awful traverse and enemies clip through it relentlessly
>underground stratagem calls often just hit the roof even if placed in the open
this doesnt even mention other blunders like
>flamethrowers made dogshit on the update that released a bunch of flamethrowers
>failing to fix an easily reproduced infinite grenade glitch three times in a row
>the PSN account debacle
>breaking patrol spawns so many times nobody is even sure how they work anymore
>numerous instances of fatal game breaking crashes being on major patches
>numerous instances of mission softlocks that go unfixed for months

>>724491791
id rather have consoles not exist. everything else would be a lot better to compensate

>>724488213
>that keeps them coming back
Normalfags only play one GAAS at a time. They stick with HD2 because that was the big thing their hivemind dictated you should go play, so rather than trying ANYTHING new they’ll just default to the one game they know. It’s like that one guy who only ever plays Terraria or Factorio. Just because autists are arrested by a comfort game doesn’t mean it’s doing anything particularly good.

Reduce your goddamn filesize arrowhead

>>724491840
Thankfully, retards like you aren’t “President of Video Games.”

>>724487724
They datamined cutscenes in case super earth was lost tho.

>>724491526
>failing to fix an easily reproduced infinite grenade glitch three times in a row
THERE'S STILL THE INFINITE GRENADE GLITCH????

>Recent patch had a bunch of nerfs they didn't mention
Na.
Arrowhead has no clue what they're doing, they cant decide what kind of game they want so they keep fucking it.

>>724491964
kek brutal

>>724491840
>id rather have consoles not exist.
People already cry about "muh optimization" when consoles provide a bottom line for system requirements. You would bleed out of your ass if that bottom line didn't exist.

>can't launch game because the servers of their kernel level malware anticheat are down
thanks arrowhead

When you got a team and it’s working perfectly there’s no other comfy fun like it.

I just need cooler skins and crossover skins

>>724485932
>HD2 has that nice L4D genome that makes it really addictive
It got stale and boring after a month.
>"community decides the war outcome"
We've known for over a year now that the war is incredibly railroaded and that we have minimal effect on it.

>>724492023
Even if they allowed that to happen it wouldn't change the war though. They would just repeat the event a week later with easier goals to liberate the planet.
There is no win/lose state like there was in HD1. It's just a scripted framework to add content and sell warbonds.

>>724483307 (OP)
What's the status, Helldiver? Did we win?

The performance somehow got worse as time went on. It's still fun to play every now and then. But fucking hell man the game was like 60gb at launch iirc now it's 140gb.

I hate the Walkers and Roaches.
Holy shit, who designed/balanced them?

>>724485541
DRG is fun but it's too easy. The game also is even more grindy and late game progression is luck based on overclock roles. Combine that with only four classes and a tiny selection of weapons to pick from with modifiers such as 10% more ammo or right click makes your shot turn 90 degrees.

It's bizarre they didn't release 10x as many guns for each class.

>>724493121
me :)

I like the game but me and my group collectively uninstalled due to the shit performance, bugs, and the 160 gb file size and their shitty excuse for it. Unfortunate

>>724491840
big budget game development would not exist at all if the PC were the only platform. You'd just get garbage low effort 2d games like you do now kek.

Even cell phone game nowadays tend to be more impressive than the average PC release.

>>724492096
they finally fixed it after about three months
>first time: intern just decides the problem is with grenades going to the negatives, so they just make the integer that holds “how many grenades” unsigned so its always positive
>patch deploys
>grenades now just underflow to 2.1 billion instead of going negative
>second patch where they say they addessed it
>you can still reproduce it the same way
>third patch they finally fixed it
>>724492320
shitty console hardware provides a top line of how complex a game can be while still getting a stuttery upscaled cinematic 24 FPS.

>>724492576
>I just need cooler skins
legit kys or go back to your teletubby skins in cod you braindead child

>swedes make great co-op game
>swedes fuck up great co-op game
>swedes kill great co-op game
This cycle needs to fucking stop

>>724483307 (OP)
utter bloatwaremaxxing they had the audacity to blame the customers for

>>724493918
>swedes kill co-op game
69,000 players were online on a tuesday night last night.

Why are fighting games the only genre that marks wifi thirdies? That feature should be the standard for all multiplayer games by now.

>>724485541
DRG has been effectively abandoned.

>>724483307 (OP)
>Buff AR's and Light Pen to actually be viable
>Fixed the most annoying enemies
>Illuminate is now fun across the board
>Buff basic bug units durability
>All non AR Light Pen feels and plays worse
>SMG rework is way overtuned and now are worse shotguns
They had an easy win and ruined it.
I'm getting tired of these "two steps foward, two steps back" patches that fixes issues just to create new ones.

>>724493835
baseline platforms (consoles) are what justifies studios to spend millions of dollars on game development. STFU. You are a dumb animal. If you had it your way, you'd get no video games at all.

>>724493684
why would big budget development just not exist on PC?

>>724483307 (OP)
I'd agree with you if its developers weren't so hopelessly retarded and incompetent up to the point where they are mentally incapable of actually buffing weapons without ruining other aspects of the game to "compensate"? for it. There's also the performance angle, the game has just been getting worse and worse even with the most recent update which helped a bit but didn't fix the hardlocks. Helldivers 2's best period of time was right at launch when you were able to land on moutains and do a bunch of other cool shit even if the game has piss poor balancing and lack of guns from the get go

>all this complaining about the game
what am I missing here? I play on ps5 have literally never run into a single issue/bug/crash
maybe dont run a modern game on your 1080 you absolute brokies

>>724483307 (OP)
tried it
reddit humor
boring mechanics
me and friend returned + went back to other games.

>>724494101
>DRG has been effectively abandoned.
for a fucking roguelike, I hate this timeline

>>724494301
because you're a retard

>>724494392
It's an amazing game that feels like it has a secret cabal of people trying to activily ruin it from the inside.

>>724494449
>>724494297
>cheap hardware bricks for normies are the only reason studios throw money at games
lol, lmao even

>>724483307 (OP)
FOTM

>>724493993
>69000 between 3 platforms
lmao

>>724483307 (OP)
>want to play it
>dont own ps5
>dont want to play for ps+
>laptop cant run it
i suffer as a neet

>>724495101
quality over quantity :^)

>>724495278
Get a used ps4 m8
or here’s a wild idea: get a j*b

>>724494798
You're retarded and dumb. If you had your way, big budget video game development in general would cease over night. You're stupid and you should keep your dumb opinions to yourself, animal.

>>724495101
Nah that's bullshit, over 250,000 were on just last week when I was on.

>>724495101
that's over 17 thousand lobbies. I think you'd be able to find a game.

>>724495553
can confirm. 6 million helldivers just flew over my house

>>724495457
dont you have a battery in a smoke detector to change, snoy

>>724492797
>>724493483
this desu, not buying it just based on principle
>100GB bigger on PC than PS5 because of HDD users
>poorfag small SSD users have to install it on HDD anyway because of how xbox huge it is unnecessarily

>>724495896
>because of HDD users
that's just a straight up lie. no other game has this problem. these fags are just lazy and cheap out on optimization

>>724483307 (OP)
Op didn't finish his sentence because he crashed again

>>724483307 (OP)
>>724483307 (OP)
Played for the first time in months this morning
>Underground mission
>FPS instantly tanks to 10 when I go into a cave
>Audio fractures, slows down, and skips when I go into a cave. So grating I have to mute the game.
>FPS and audio unfuck themselves the moment I'm below open sky again
>Extraction bugs out, landing atop a pillar, and we're staring at it slowly slide down to the landing pad for a minute.
Had one friend drop because of file size and a second drop it because of terrible performance. Motherfucking Arrowhead legit killing one of the best games I've played in years.

>Buff a few weapons
>Buff every enemies
>Buffed weapons feel mostly the same
>Unbuffed weapons feel worse
>Glazedivers praise this patch
They fucking nerfed the Coyote despite SAYING THEY DIDN'T on the very same video they made for this patch, incredible.

everyone is saying they nerfed fire damage again but no one says how. i want to know why damnit.

As much as I liked HD2 it felt like literally every patch had some kind of broken unfun shit in it

Also I don't like paywalling gameplay

>>724496183
yeah, it's obviously a goofy explanation since it could be fragmented to hell on a HDD, their explanation would make sense if it was an xbox 360 game playing off a DVD

>>724496901
Bugs are harder to set on fire.

>>724496949
>enemy faction literally made of fuel
>hard to set on fire

>>724485541
Lmfao no, deep rock killed itself with the Rockpox then switched into jew overdrive.

>>724492576
You are the reason drg went to shit.

>>724496949
False, bots are the harder to ignite. Unless you meant bugs are now a bit harder to set on fire.

>>724497173
They aren't.

>>724497841
>They aren't.
Please explain to me why super earth ever cared about Terminids
And why they are so widespread

>>724483307 (OP)
This game's technical state is so unbelievably bad. I really like the game and have 200h+ in it, but it runs like total shit. The stutter and CPU rape is terrible, the file size is like 140+GB on PC because the devs don't know how to create separate installs for HDD vs SSD, it's full of gamebreaking bugs and crashes, whoever their technical director is needs to be fired. I stopped playing it because the performance is a disaster.

>>724485541
Helldivers is cool cause I can chill and play with a remote. Drg I have to lock in with a m+k, and it can feel a little repetitive

>>724498192
Haven't played since it launched is it better now?

>>724499814
Yes, but the game is basically at the state it should have initially launched as besides maybe the new class

i really really loved HD2, like it was a top contender for one of my favorite games, and i played on console too so there weren't that many performance issues compared to PC but after a while i just had to call it quits because every mission just started to feel the same, yeah i could chance my loadout and armor but it didnt change much. its still a game i would reccomend but i'm just burned out on it.

>>724483307 (OP)
>>724485541
Darktide mogs both these games. There is no competition here.

>*crashes*
>*runs like shit*
>2 of 3 enemy factions are unfun garbage
nice perfect game you got there faggot

>>724500173
For me? There's not enough loadout variety. And I mean, I have 400 hours played kek. It's just that I have to rigidly play with the strikes and weapons that work.

I wish they'd buff the heavy machine gun. I just want to tear through chargers and titans with heavy machine gun fire, like they do in Starship Troopers, but the rockets are so much more effective. I WANT to use the machine gun, but it feels like such a wet noodle of a gun compared to the commando/quasar/recoilless/etc. etc.

>>724501153
The benefit of the HMG is that you can also rip through small and medium enemies with it.

>>724501237
Yeah that's supposedly its balance, that it's uselful in every situation, but I also have a primary and a secondary that can fulfill that role. I feel like it should do a bit more damage to the bigger units too.

>hey guys we totally fixed rupture enemies
>except they are still disabled whoops tehe enjoy your pack of feral future vaccines... I mean predators
Every time you think the swiggers reached the absolute bottom you realize they haven't even scratched the top yet. It's unfuckingreal how someone so ungodly inhumanly retarded managed to make something so good, and how something so good can be so fucking bad.

>>724501627
>Equip Eruptor
>Rupture Strain becomes a walk in the park
Fitting, given the name.

>>724501360
When I take a support that demolishes everything like a machine gun, I take the eruptor or crossbow to close bugholes, and the kaboom pistol for when I need to blast a charger or bile titan or impaler into another dimension.

>>724501840
you're playing post fix, when they initially came out they were near impossible to avoid (if you were the host) and were a massive problem because one showing up pretty much guaranteed to take you below half HP even in heavy armor.

>>724485541
DRG is extremely boring and tedious moment to moment though.

>>724501704
I preferred Plasma Punisher to deal with diggers. Also thanks for reminding me these assniggerfaggotscunts ruined it by making DIRECT FUCKING PROJECTILE HIT deal 0 (ZERO) bonus damage.

>>724499814
the current meta is very well balanced (except for zealot) and the game is very challenging and engaging.

>>724502083
It never dealt any bonus damage to hit them with the projectile because the projectile popped due to proximity so it never hit the target, dumbass. Plasma Punisher is stronger than it ever was before.

>>724483307 (OP)
>Crashes and burns thanks to Alexus

>>724502163
I refuse to believe all my efforts were for nothing.

>>724483307 (OP)
Real talk though is Arrowhead actually the worst developer of all time?
>Attempt to develop a hardcore gritty tactical shooter "grunt fantasy" game
>Fail and by complete accident make a power fantasy game that appeals to mass audiences
>Significant portion of the studio still seething about this and have been actively sabotaging the game to spite the audience they ended up with

>Hey guys here's paid DLC that primarily includes gameplay
>But don't worry, you can get the DLC with in-game currency
>in-game currency takes three times longer to earn than working a minimum wage job
every time

>>724502275
They were, now it works as a plasma explosion spitter.

>>724502378
>grunt fantasy
Was it ever suppsed to be that?
They are thrown behind enemy lines with ludicrous weapons to cause as much damage and chaos as possible. Grunts would be the defense force with their shitty guns.

>>724502464
It's really not that difficult, come on. Put some video on and farm SC with randoms.

>>724502714
just download the arrows mod and farm with /hdg/. it's lightning fast.

>>724502464
It's comical how much faster SC grinding becomes once you get the Warp pack and you don't have to depend on randoms or bring your buttbuddy along and can instead spread out the map.

>>724502804
Yeah, that too. I do that.

>>724502714
>Put some video on and farm SC with randoms.
Fucking trust me, I've done that. And that's exactly what made me realize that it's a giant boring time sink that doesn't excuse a 40€ videogame to lock gameplay behind regular DLC drops

>>724502825
You can glitch behind the door using the mech suit

the warp pack eliminates the need to, but that was the method before

>>724503391
>warp pack eliminates the need
It can go through bunker doors?

>>724501121
They actually managed to make Ayy LMAOS fun in their most recent patch.

But they tried to make bugs wirk because Swede's are mentally ill I guess.

>>724502825
Is it possible to weasel your way into bunkers on town maps (not megacity)? Even regular ones are jank now, you have to kinda dive into them.

Is this game at all similar to Mass Effect 3 MP? IRL normie friends I used to play ME3 with want a game for us to play.

>>724503575
Bunkers are such a shit mechanic.
It's just a fuck you to anyone who wants to play solo. Even in multiplayer it's only worth it if you're farming anyway or happen to be nearby when someone finds a bunker.
Literally let me spawn in "button-press-o-bot" with a strategem that spawns in 2 waves of enemies, I don't care, just let me not waste my time going to a point of interest solo just to find a big "FUCK YOU" sign

>>724503492
kek I actually still use the mech suit method, but I assumed the warp pack goes through bunker doors?... no?

>>724503575
Yeah, just dolphin dive and zoom right in.

>>724485541
this, it's extremely moddable with no kernel anticheat shit

>>724503813
I don't know the mech method. And I quit the game before the warp pack was in the game. I'm here because I want to get back in.

>>724491526
honestly im convinced everyone that likes the game either extracts with jack shit or plays on minimal diff
since before i uninstalled this frankly oversized game, i had a 100% crash or dsiconnect (see:the host crashed and everyone got booted) rate
game is run by fucking nitwits who insist on reinventing the wheel, and fucking suck at it at every opportunity
>oh look robots with guns that need to traverse
inexplicably blow themselves up because the bullets dont fly out of the muzzle, an issue mechwarrior NEVER HAD
>oh look non separate 3rd/1st person models
so the most PRECISE WEAPONS had misaligned scopes due to parallax
and dont get me started on balance
>nerf the railgun a bunch of times in spite of the fact that it accidentally did quadruple damage on hosts for a hot minute
>nerf the railgun in spite of the fact its the only option to address the "-1 stratagems" and "2x call in time" and "2x cooldown" modifiers
or just the nonsensical weakspot design
at every opportunity these retards have made every mistake that literally no game dating back decades has made because literally at every opportunity those issues were hammered out/unimplemented before a game went gold
Arrowhead is genuinely run and staffed by the most incompetent devs
their success is what allows them to keep fucking shit up and their retarded fans keep propping them up
its a like a micro nintendo situation

>>724503851
Right next to the door or like at a distance? I'm sure I tried and failed doing this with town maps bunkers before.

>>724504218
>Town maps
Wouldn't know, I don't play on city maps, for field bunkers you just dive slighty diagonal towards the right so you slide in between the ammo crates to the left and the wardrobe on the right.

>>724503924
put your butt against the bunker door while you're in a mech suit and pop out and viola, you're in the bunker

hopefully they don't patch this out like the cuckswedes they are.

If you crouch down and first person aim at the door you can also see what is inside the bunker so you don't waste your time getting into a bunker with nothing but an arc gun, a sniper, and a flamethrower.

>>724504180
>honestly im convinced everyone that likes the game either extracts with jack shit or plays on minimal diff
I try to collect samples and I play on D10.

>>724504298
Mang, I know that.
>I don't play on town maps
That's every squid map, I don't mean megacities.

>Game is like 140gigs now
>Every time it updates, it somehow takes STEAM 8 hours to apply a 3mb patch
>I end up just reinstalling the game and it's ready in 10 minutes
Why does this happen? What in my PC is causing it?

Another thing is
>Game gives explosion team kill credit to the nearest teammate
So automaton matches are just a toxic kick and blame fest for no reason since bots mostly kill by explosion

>>724502632
I didn't say the idea was coherent but its what they've said on multiple occasions as to what their original vision for the game was.

>>724504383
Like I said, at the start of the year it meant 100% fail rate since the game has severe issues in prolonged gameplay
Just not worth my time and I would much like to see those retards at arrowhead knocked down a peg for their consistent and perpetual stupidity

>>724485541
I like exploring in DRG but I honestly don't find it satisfying to kill stuff in it.

>>724485932
>"community decides the war's outcome"
lol
lmao

>>724504180
the more I think about it the more examples of insanely broken shit I can think of
>airburst RL had no safety and detonated next to friendlies, enemies, terrain, vegetation, corpses, particle effects, stratagem beacons, and sometimes for no reason at all on release (how did this make it out of testing)
>SPEAR lock on was bugged for almost 6 months and is flatly worse than the Recoilless in almost every way still
>acid/flame DOT only worked for host for months and flame weapons kept being buffed to compensate for lack of DOT
>flame could ignore armor giving it a niche but swedes thought it was too fun and took it away because muh realism
>when they released the emancipator mech people found you intentionally couldnt equip both mech suits at once, but you could if you selected another strategem first and then replaced it with the suit lol
>they cited “too many mechs was too expensive resource wise” for their poor console plebs while I played entire operations where every player had 3 mech strats (two + free one) with no issue
>the FRV could collide with corpses and just get ejected into space
>there was a significant time where helldivers would walk around as limbless torsos
>mines would explode for no reason and AT mines on release did exactly as everyone predicted

>playing as a Helghast soldier (the unironic good guys of the Killzone series)
>using weapons from Halo: Combat Evolved
>slaying hundreds of aliens with your bros
I don't care what anyone says. I think gaming is great today.

>>724506660
>introduce fomo shit like it's nothing
>no one bat a fucking eye
They know their audience.

>>724506839
>Nooooooo! You have to be outraged by this! You can't just relish in how awesome it is nooooooo!
Shhhh cuck. The men are enjoying their vidya.

>>724506839
the real thing that sucks is that they've promised in every single update that they're going to bring it back (eventually) and they never did

>>724506257
>acid/flame DOT only worked for host for months and flame weapons kept being buffed to compensate for lack of DOT
More like they got a 400% damage buff because arrowhead was too retarded to recognize only 25% of players (see, the fucking host) could do damage with fire and arrowhead only looks at statistics and metrics, as it's been made plainly obvious they don't play or play test their game at all

>>724506950
My friend who grew up with PS3 stopped playing helldivers completely because by the time he farmed enough SC for the armor it was gone from the store.

>>724492607
>Yeah I might have been wrong but actually I wasnt because I believe that my made up scenario actually happened

>>724507125
the spreadsheet diplomacy has been the worst
>we saw most players are using this weapon or stratagem so we busted it down a peg to bring it in line with all of the other absolutely useless gear nobody fucking takes
name one time you’ve seen a directional shield stratagem since it released

>>724507448
I took it on the mission once by accident because the icons are retarded. It was shit.

>>724507325
It's been made clear before that the world progress is 100% arbitrary

>>724507082
>>724507247
I hope they don't bring it back because I currently have it and it's more special to me if it never comes back now.

>>724507448
Yeah I don't care about nerfs or buffs so long as they make sense
But these pieces of shit who dont patch their bugs always have a weapons nerf ready on the quick draw
Iirc the balance guy is a fucking entitled, condescending cunt too, so bad the community guy got replaced for defending him and they all had to apologize for that guy being a fucking cunt

>>724507763
Dont you worry we all think you're plenty special enough as it is

Yeah the game was/is really really good.
Never got me so bad I am spending hundreds to thousands of hours like some do but I have like 120 hours in.

>>724507448
>name one time you’ve seen a directional shield stratagem since it released
I miss being able to use it with the chair.

>>724507903
Yes! Lash out and cope! Give me those sweet sweet tears! Hahahaha!

>>724507576
Then why did they bother making a cutscene for an outcome they knew wouldn't come to pass?

>>724508180
Why did they bother releasing useless stratagems
Why did they bother releasing a 1000 rpm machine gun just to nerf it within 24 hours
Why'd did they bother giving a 2 month promise to fix the game only to over buff everything in 4 months
Why did they bother to implement dog shit like the scrambler, the stratagem modifiers, only to nerf the railgun
Oh that's right no one at the company knows how the game works, runs, or plays
Because time and time again arrowhead makes mistakes that could be avoided or solved by playtrsting
And the thing relevant to your question
>Arrowhead always does extra work but lacks planning or competent management
And you can't deny me on this because it's consistent with every blunder they've had

>>724508180
>why would this absolutely dogshit development team do something that is a waste of time and doesn’t make sense
hmmmmm puzzling indeed

What up my Helghast niggas

They should just get rid of this durable damage bullshit.
Patch notes is all "increased durable damage by 5 points! Wow thats a big change!"
>Meanwhile there is no such thing as durable damage in any of the screens in game
You would think that would be an indication that they've done something wrong. That apparently one of the most critical aspects to weapon balance is utterly opaque to players.

I genuinely think its one of my favourite games, I keep coming back to it and its just effortless fun, but I think its more the concept than the game itself. I would like to see more games like this with different settings and development, I cant help but feel this can be done better, but it is good.

Do Magicka with this gameplay, where your stratagems are big spells etc, and make it in an engine that doesnt run like complete dog shit on my 4070TI S and 5800X.

When you’re in first person with the Halo 1 assault rifle, sometimes it feels like we got a bunch of new levels in Halo: CE in the year 2025

>>724510109
I remember seeing a beta of the loadout screen (pre-attachments) that showed much more in depth statistical information with real values like accuracy, sway, etc, but they scrapped it all in favor of the “simpler” numbers
shit like armor penetratio, values, and durable damage have all had to be datamined and tested by players to figure anything out. even the devs dont understand how it works half the time

>>724510214
Makes me wish more games would approach this game concept. Halo universe taking the HD2 gameplay and making a game of it could be great. Instead theyll make another mediocre run of the mill FPS.

>>724510170
>>724510640
I feel like Battlefield should do a Helldivers esque game. Like you drop with 4 guys behind enemy lines, you’re surrounded by tangos and you gotta complete missions together, revive each other, supply each other, etc. They already have all these vehicles, they have destructible environments. If they really took a swing at it, I think they *could* make something special. I mean idk if modern DICE can, but certainly I think the potential is there.

>>724511054
too much fun allowed for modern EA

>>724511521
Crazy because all the ingredients are there. The assets are built. The game engine is built. What is USUALLY considered the hard part of game development is done. You just need to put it all together into a fun coop shooter but there is no one left in DICE with the talent or the vision (or the autonomy since they are cucked by EA) to see it through.

Would have loved to try it but its one of those games as a service retardation type of games. I miss the days of games having dedicated single and multi player modes along with maybe some fun gimmick mode to try out. I'd rather that then some co-op game that practically forces you online and strongly encourages you to pay for shit.

>>724483307 (OP)
How can it be 'perfect' when it runs like dog-shit
>Works on my machine
Don't lie to my face

>>724513847
It honestly does seem to run fine on my machine, bro.

>>724508180
As stated prior, they might have left a possibility for Super Earth to be captured, but it's still scripted and would only delay whatever they have planned.
The war literally cannot progress in ways they haven't planned for, because the content does not exist yet.

In Helldivers 1 the war would last like a month and then restart after the players either won or lost. It actually mattered which planets the community collectively put their effort into.
It's been almost 2 years of Helldivers 2 and we still haven't been allowed to defeat any of the enemy factions.

>>724489616
this. 100% this.

>>724513847
Just donate your PC to a museum at this point.

>>724483307 (OP)
Illuminate are gay and upset the balance.
Primarys are not primaries. You need a stalwart to deal with illuminate on higher levels.
Only bugs and bots are balanced.
Only bugs in the gloom are challenging and thats mostly because you are randomising your teammates.

All of these weapons and they still leave liberator penetrator as the strongest general purpose primary. 1 or 2 teamates with an exploding crossbow or rifle can aoe splash large numbers of light units on patrol.

Defend missions are boring as fuck.

Give a new faction and buff all the other weapons cause they arent fun

I hate high value asset wvac missions on solo illuminate. Literally impossible with harvesters that instantly delete gates & generators

>>724519315
incendiary+gas mines for CC and a recoiless for the harvesters for the big ones is usually how i do it, although its always a toss up if my team can help me mow down the fleshmobs or not.

>>724508495
>>724508926
So you have nothing but your schizophrenic ramblings to use as proof of how even HD2 war is just another big bad conspiracy

Are there more games like this where I can just kill dudes for half an hour without giving a shit about plot or meta. That's the main appeal of Helldivers for me

>>724483307 (OP)
I find it funny that the current complaint is the stealth nerf of the Coyote, like the fanbase ignores how often they would stealth nerf shit by not having it in the patch notes before the big buff patch last year in July. Memories of goldfish those fucks.

>>724520894
kek how did they nerf the coyote? I haven't played in a few months.

>>724520291
devs have asspulled the superwar multiple times
>inventing new supply lines where none previously existed to force a narrative
>intentionally or mistakenly (its really hard to tell with sweden at this point) making the mechanics of the galactic war so obtuse that average players need specific instructions from the devs (in the form of "dispatches" on what the optimal play is
>constantly fudging the "planetary resistance" to ensure every MO is a nailbiter that comes down to the last hour (its really just nolife retards spamming D1 missions constantly to contribute the most points)
>we evaded getting AT mines as a reward for an MO because they were so dogshit the devs made the fail condition of the next MO that we would get AT mines and also set a ludicrous/impossible MO goal
>devs regularly lock and unlock playable planets by gating them behind supply lines and making the planets in front of them impossible to capture
>the infamous "somehow the automatons returned" incident
yes, the devs fuck with and railroad major orders and planetry capture as much as they conceivably can to the point they've had player surveys concerned that players felt they had no influence on the "galactic war". the devs have premade story beats they just have to roll out on a schedule and like hell the swedes who are on vacation for three quarters of the year are going to go invent new story beats if the playerbase upsets a particular MO.

>>724523064
Nerfed it by requiring more shots needed to hit to catch an enemy on fire. That was it.

>>724523991
Motherfucker, they constantly have to tell morons that if a planet defense is on the verge of failing, the attack source planet can be liberated to immediately end it and prevent the falling of the planet, but no one reads, they just go where the big symbols are and don't read what the Major Order requires, hell, Oshaune could have been done in one, if the morons realized we only needed to extract with samples as liberation WAS NOT going to happen with a 7% decay rate. Hell it might have been 8%.

>>724524145
their galactic war system is dogshit if they need to explicitly spell out to retards where to go. reminder that for several months when the game rolled out they didn't even have fucking supply lines actually visible in-game yet they were exposed on an API, so everyone had to go to external sites to actually figure out what the fuck was going on
this is even ignoring the fact that planetary liberation rates are
>not front-specific and are proportionate to the total online playercount
>fucked with constantly by the devs during an MO if they feel like its going too fast/slow
so why even bother grinding my balls against hellmire for four days straight if its going to be the same outcome with or without my 0.0003% liberation per 1.5 hour operation on D10 there

>>724524298
I won't defend the supply lines, as that was them pushing their dumb mobile app to get more info and details for the war, but the fact that they have to handhold CONSTANTLY for divers tells you that NO ONE reads the "flavor text" that explicitly makes things clear, hell some don't even pay attention to the bonus factors like 25% cooldown increase or roaming flying enemies.

>>724524553
even with reading the flavortext the MO's are often an option-select of "do x or do y". And because MOs are all decided by amount of player volume committed to whatever planets are in play, it becomes like a damn game of planetside 2 where the biggest zergforce wins. there is no strategy besides herding cats to planets.

>>724524008
It's probably still the best AR then kek

the thing that killed helldivers for me was the galactic war bullshit. like yeah it takes the whole community 2+ days to take one planet but any enemy faction can just take 3 within 24 hours of a major order starting up. i'm fine with it being an uphill battle, but there is a point where you dont need it to be a fucking sysiphysian task.

>>724525074
I like how people were ignoring they didn't fuck with the Bot planet that actually had negative decay rate, like 1k players were consistently dropping and got it liberated. The problem is there's no way to actually coordinate with other players within the game, as I sure as fuck don't use their Discord channel, or use Discord at all.

>>724483307 (OP)
They paywall content. Otherwise it would be good.

This captcha is cancer.

>>724525507
What kind of content?

>>724525675
every single warbond is 10$ and that's where majority of the guns/armors/stratagems are
some of them are even 15$ now

>>724502464
The paywall is ridiculous, it's not a free2play game.

>>724525807
It was never advertised as a f2p game. how fucking retarded and poor are you whiny fucks?

>>724525675
The warbonds, works for a while but eventually you need to pay with time or money.

>>724525935
I complained about them putting a paywall inside the game I already bought, learn to read.

>>724525964
yeah and on top of spending the super scheckles to unlock it you also need to spend medals to unlock everything in it, and the currency cap of 250 on them usually only gets you about the first page

>>724526213
I don't mind the medals progress system, but it would have been nice if they maximised dun by allowing me to exchange cap-amount of medals to unlock a warbond. Then it wouldn't feel like a paywall.

>>724526491
>maximised dun
maximised fun...

>>724526040
It's a live service game, either admit you're being obtuse as fuck and ignoring the goal is to make money while running the game or admit you just want to pretend the game somehow tricked you into buying it knowing that it was going to require you to play the game to get the currency to buy access to more content.

>>724526683
>I didn't misread what you said I uhhhhh
>yeah if you bought this game you should have expected you'd have to buy it three times over to unlock stuff, that's it
555-come-on-now

>>724483307 (OP)
kill alexus
kill swiggers

>>724523991
Then why did they make cutscenes for scenarios they know wouldn't happen?

>>724527561
maybe because they're fucking retards and changed development ideas halfway through, like how the plan from the get-go was to have every single player sign up for a PSN account until the entire playerbase rioted and gave them such bad PR that even the jewish hands of sony had to pull back out of the proverbial oven
there's tons of unreleased/withheld content just sitting in the game files that will probably remain that way because either its unfinished, they don't care to release it, they can't put a price tag on it, or its from a stage of game development they're no longer pursuing. those stupid bastards have reintroduced bugs that were solved patches ago because they have absolutely no version control, so its entirely possible there's leaked shit in there that was never even intended to be released.

>>724506257

The sheer about of technical, mechanical and design issues the game had and still has convinced me Arrow Head stumbled into something fun by complete accident. There is zero version control and the shit that gets released should not have made it past one round of playtesting.

>Guise we'll fix it and do better pls understandu
>fix something
>unfix the fix in a random patch
>add something else to the game that makes the same mistake or doubles down on the original problem

>>724527910
I remember /hdg/ and the internet glazing arrowhead after the famous "60-day patch" just for them to go in complete reverse and cock everything up again in the coming months repeatedly. I genuinely believe they fired or moved all of the original talent that went into the complex and good looking parts of the game and have a team of interns trying to keep this thing on life support as they desperately try and repurpose every existing projectile or asset in the game into a new weapon.

>>724526683
I'm not talking with someone dumb enough to defend paywalling content in a game I paid for already with the excuse "live service". You have no idea how good and fun-maximized gaming used to be.

They would still earn plenty enough from sales of the game or people that want to pay2skip just to get a warbond.

It's the best game that actively doesn't want anyone to play it.