Thread 724529391

>Entire studio got sacked
Rest in piss you won't be missed.

>>724529391 (OP)
MMOs as a genre are done for, no new ones will be made and the current player bases will age out and die
Zoomers don't play them

>it's real
Oh fug
Just how bad was the situation behind curtains for Amazon to finally admit defeat?

>>724529391 (OP)
Honestly it didn't even seem like that bad of a game when I played it a few years ago.

>>724529515
Catastrophic. Personally I thought they would never ever admit into their only even remotely successful game being a failure to save face, but here we are.

>MMOs failed to innovate
It's a millennial dead genre, just like RTS and fighting games.

Does new world even have a /vg/ thread anymore? I wanted to check on those fags but can't find it?

>>724529391 (OP)
>it's real
I unironically thought I wouldn't see the day

it's just a big company strategy
you really think they were trying to make a decent videogame? it was fucking pathetic

>>724529391 (OP)
Should not have started catering to PvE fags. Those niggers will NEVER abandon WoW/ffxiv for more than few weeks.

>>724530685
>Should not have started catering to PvE fags
PoE does fine

Played it on release for a month or so, like all new MMO's it felt like a pre-beta tech demo and from what I could tell it just stayed that way
S

>>724529479
>create shit product
>nooo its entire genre fault that shit doesnt float
???

>>724530685
thats a big hat

>>724529597
That's because you have no standards. Low class filth

>>724529391 (OP)
Griferniggers in shambles, now they have to find some other game to ruin

>>724529391 (OP)
I've seen a lot of the community personalities trying to make noise to convince Amazon to keep it going, doubt it will do anything but I commend the effort.

Go racist go broke. Disgusting colonialist game.

>>724530685
bigger the hat, cuter the witch

>>724529515
lead dev quit around 2021 or so and they did a 180 on game design because a purple haired playtester put into the position by her rich dad said that PvP made the game too toxic. It was originally going to be a sandbox area control game but they cancelled that idea like a year before official release and had to make content for a theme park wow clone MMO so they delayed an extra year and blamed covid.

it was cooked from the start, if streamers werent paid tens of thousands to shll this game no one would have played it.

>>724532514
It's literally impossible to make a good mmo. They relied on the more social and explorative time in internet history. The original audience is aging out and younger generations simply do not communicate in game to strangers.

The entire premise of an MMO is to waste your time, give you a bunch of fluff to do, busy work, and so on. It's a failed genre from the offset. WoW fooled us once, and we know what the next games are going to be like.

I wonder how successful a short-lived MMO might be. Like, intentionally short-lived. Take take Elden Ring for example. What if they made an MMO like that? The only difference would be, it has a giant central hub area where you see other players online, but the game isn't a giant time-wasting simulator. Like, you can journey with your friends out in the world, run into other people, do PVP with them, join them and go kill a boss, etc. But it's a 200-300 hour game. You're not meant to dump 1000s of hours into it collecting flowers and fishing and killing 20x mobs to collect an item, etc. etc. You're just meant to play it and beat it and move on. I feel like that would be fun and would re-invent what the MMO is.

Even if I wanted to play through New World, what do I have to do? Dump 3 months of my life into it before I see the final boss? Ecckkkkghhh. /rant

>>724532514
Buddy you don't get it.
All MMOs have to ship as shit products because the monetization required to be profitable enough for a boardroom to fund running one for extended upkeep has to be massive.
Otherwise they'll invest in other products, like fps free to play slop that prints whales.

>>724532514
This. WoWGODS keep winning

>>724533181
There might still be some half banked jank MMOs in the future

My brother made over ten thousand dollars selling duped high tier weapons on Fo:76 and that lasted like a full 1-2 years of inventory off the initial patched dupe before Bethesda finally deleted all of the obvious stockpiles.

Will the finally give this shit away for free then? It's insane it's still full price.

>>724533181
Pretty much what FO76 is.

Well... people still dump like 1000s of hours into it.

>>724533434
Lotta people made a lotta money off fo76

>>724529391 (OP)
>late 90s style pvp focused mmo with shitload of dated game design choices
this game is an embodiment of covid bubble

>>724533402
>>724533491
Anyone who still has stockpiles of excavator armor with a jetpack on it (a glitch that existed for a time) is sitting on literal thousands of dollars. Bethesda has seemingly forgotten about that little item too.

Honestly surprised PSO2NGS out lasted thus game.

>>724530685
>go full PVP and be a raging success like albion online with 3k players
kek

>>724529391 (OP)
I'm surprised it even lasted as long as it did.
if I remember right it was a complete shitshow at release. shit like playing it windowed and dragging the window around gave you invincibility

>>724533612
That's genuinely upsetting now that I think about it. Fuck you.

>>724533181
>Short burst mmo
I like that idea. You might be onto something

>>724529479
what are zoomers playing?
asking for my boss, not-mr-bezos

>>724533916
Fortnite, CoD, Roblox, etc.
ADHD games essentially

>>724533003
>If I fail then noone else can suceed
right
>>724533297
they dont need 800% monetiziation. but ofc they do 800% monetization regardless. you are confusing what they actually need and what they want.

>>724533857
Server size was incredibly small too and there weren't nearly enough so there were like 10 hour queues to play during peak hours. People weren't logging out because of this and it just made it worse.

>>724533181
Tou literally just described OG Phantasy Star Online.

>OG PSO2 is dead
>NG is total dog ass shitwater poopoo caca crap
>we will never get a new Phantasy Star Universe

>>724530320
Kinda funny that the longest lasting legacy of Amazon Game ended up being fucking Open 3D Engine.

>>724533181
I mean that's kind of what GW1 is like, the only difference is when you go out into questing areas its instanced and there are specific areas to pvp in.

>>724533973
Oh no I'm saying the boardmembers need it. I know they technically could have the pockets to fund it without 800% monetization but that doesn't make them cum so they might as well invest their money elsewhere

The devs then have to do that to secure funding otherwise mmo doesn't end up eixsting.

It's really hard cause just about everything that could be done has been done.

I'd say maybe if someone could create a low poly style that's anime chibi and plays like RuneScape with the same amount of monetization you might see success but desu that's a lot of nostalgia too

>>724534035
for some reason as tech improved mmos were downscaled. whos brightest idea it was to make mmos display as little players on a screen as possible?

>>724535481
Their tech certainly didn't improve. The 50v50 wars were basically unplayable.

>>724533823
>>go full PVP and be a raging success like albion online with 3k players
>kek
Carebear faggots are so mentally broken from the lack of nutrition from eating their vegan salads that they exist entirely in a reality they invented in their own head.
Albion has 7-10k daily players just from steam and they have even more players on their native launcher.

More people play Albion online today than people who play New World.

Last I heard Albion was completely captured by huge mega guilds and you literally cannot play the game past a certain point if you don't become a serf for them.

>Arena PvP as your main endgame content?
/spit

>>724533181
Your entire understanding of an MMO is centred around WoW style grinding and progression system. Thats what WoW did, it killed the whole genre by being so successful people stopped understanding that different types of MMOs could even be made. You cant discuss any idea for an MMO without someone chiming in and telling you why its good or bad depending on how it would fit into an MMO structured like WoW. This is what "brainwashing" is, its when you see everything through a lens that filters your perception and opinions to work in a narrow way.

Blizzards creation of WoW was unintentionally a psychic attack on the gaming industry that will be felt for decades.

>>724534203
>run in a circle farming .00001% rare drop simulator for bugmen
Good fucking riddance. The online Phantasy Star games were always dogshit

>>724535530
I meant hardware. Shouldnt have allowed jeets to make netcode.

>>724529515
About 14k corporate jobs. About 14k part timers/short term contractors.

You know that massive AWS crash a week or two ago that took out a quarter of the internet? A BUNCH of those fuckers are fired as in more than 3 digit top people. HR is taking big cuts. And Twitch is taking it to the nuts. It turns out prioritizing Hassan over gaming, growth, and advertising isn't a winning position.

>>724530685
There were SO many fucking problems with the development that it's not that one thing.

You know, of "Secret level games that ate shit", how many are we up to? New World. Concord. Mindseye.

>>724533181
It would be like Helldivers 2. Massive FOMO. Ongoing plot you need to be present and invested in.

>>724533297
Amazon can't make FPS FTP slop either.

Good. Amazon fuck off from vidya and hopefully soon, fuck off everywhere else for good.

>>724536096
>Steam exclusive game has more players on steam than the game where most of its user use the native launcher
Thanks for sharing retard-kun, very cool!
Native launcher had an estimated 30-40k people today.

>>724535937
Doesn't my post seek to undue the brainwashing? Why are you attacking me?

>>724529391 (OP)
Good fuck off and good riddance. Shoehorning niggers and censoring my lolis.

>>724536626
people who play albion are also the biggest retards

>>724535848
I remember Shadowbane went the same way. You had one zerg invite guild that began just gobbling up the whole server, until the point people who weren't in the zerg invite guild started to fuck off because it wasn't fun. DAoC had a really sad state where people on the server would attempts to organize transferring to low/no pop factions to make the RvR more exciting for everyone.

>>724533181
You're kinda describing what Crowfall intended to do
Sad what happened to that game

>>724532901
>>724530685
>>724535729
>delusional pvpniggers seething
Lol, go back to playing whatever dead pvp perma death lose your entire life savings ($100) when you die to a player shit mmo dominated by russian and chinese pay2win and autistic neets

>>724538509
develpoment took too long tbgh

>>724529391 (OP)
Chronicles of Elyria chads we won

>>724538630
>life savings ($100)
kek'd

>>724529391 (OP)
Played this for a few months about half a year into its lifespan. Absolutely horrific balance. Healing was overtuned to the point that it was impossible to kill a staff user in a 1v1. Ice Gauntlet also had a piss easy kill setup with the ice curtain. If you were fighting either of those two, you were kinda just fucked.

The healing also made group pvp cancerous, since you would just have scrums of unkillable players pointlessly wailing on each other.

Exploring and farming was interesting, but the pvp was dogshit. Cosmetics were also ugly as sin, typical for a western game though.

>>724533181
>Like, you can journey with your friends out in the world, run into other people, do PVP with them, join them and go kill a boss, etc. But it's a 200-300 hour game.
This won't work because faggots who joined the game after everyone else has spent those 200-300 hours and moved on will shit and piss themselves about how it's a dead game with no one to play with.
The reason ""MMOs"" end up being 10000 hour grindfests every single time is because of retards demanding that these games have other retards to keep them company.
Always online is a rotten fucking game format.

>>724530685
This desu, all pveasy rats are forever mazed in wow or japanese wow

>>724529391 (OP)
>dat feel when devs clearly didn't know this was coming as they talked up updates and even gave one expansion for free

>>724529391 (OP)
Who fucking cares? Oh /pol/niggers do because they think every time a big budget game fails we get one step closer to total jew death

>>724541278
Everyone knows what you are faggot. There's a reason you stick to pvp in pve games instead of playing fighting games and shooters.

>>724537993
it's not Lost Shart that died
yet

>>724541289
Woah, nice falseflag there, buddy.