Thread 724566240

https://x.com/worldmap_game/status/1983821182697619748

In short, as the Steam release will require "significant revisions" to be compliant with Steam's content standards, they are opting to release the current version of the game on other platforms such as DLSite and GOG first instead.

So is this a kat thing or them trying to pass off ecchi as all ages which if you just go for the AO rating steam won't care as much but not as many people will see it.

>>724566438
Don't think its R18, though the Steam content disclaimer has

>This Game may contain content not appropriate for all ages, or may not be appropriate for viewing at work: Some Nudity or Sexual Content, Frequent Violence or Gore, General Mature Content

The trailer has a girl wearing a bra and says something about strip rock paper scissors.

>>724566240 (OP)
They're forcing burkas on japanese games while Dispatch has literal sex scenes.

>>724567004
Damn those degen nips, if only they comply to Steam's guidelines like Dispatch did.

Seems to be getting a bit of attention in the press in Japan, probably since it is following up the Inner Truth and LoveR Kiss bans. Has articles from 4Gamer/famitsu/Automation

>>724567924
Nips are going to just shikataganai and go back to roll for their chink gacha.

>>724566240 (OP)
this game actually looks kinda interesting
thanks for bringing it to my attention faggot niggers at Steam

>>724566240 (OP)
https://x.com/checka_la/status/1983825171325817019
The game director had a bit more to say, mainly that their full focus is on the uncut version before dealing with the Valve review team.
>First, we will devote all our efforts to completing the current version at 100% purity.

>>724567924
That's not unique.

These bans always get articles made about them.

nobody in this thread knows what game OP is talking about

>"H9" is a psycho-horror adventure around the "phantom bishoujo game" that was canceled at the end of the 20th century. Mr. Tomoka Nagai ("Night of Kamaita × 3" and "In Shibuya that was blocked 428 ") is the director, and Ge-saku, who is the representative of Mr. Ge-saku, will work on the development.
>At the heart of the story is the game "Tokimeki Undressing Janken" where you can enjoy a baseball fist confrontation with the heroine. For some reason, the phantom beautiful girl game that no one knows contained data that was firmly sealed with later technology. By advancing the undressing janken, the player breaks through the protection and pursues the truth hidden in the game.

>>724567924
It seems like Koreans and Japs are just spineless for some godforsaken reason. They'll put out nothingburger articles complaining but never actually do anything about it. Unrealted, but some faggot nigger streamer was actually fucking around doing illegal shit in both Japan and Korea and Japan just let him walk all over them then let him leave like cucks. Korea actually locked him inside the country (I think) but it's been a year and he's still doing illegal shit despite Korea saying they're gonna jail him (they're not). Crazy how China is probably the least cucked out of these three, which is sad as fuck.

>>724566240 (OP)
Does Valve even bother answering dev questions about content on a case-by-case basis? If they did, there would probably be a lot less banned games. Considering the timing, it's likely self-censorship because they got spooked over lovers

>>724570029
its school uniforms again. its parodying games from the 90s where young women wearing school uniforms strip (even tho i dont know if it even shows nudity)
to Japan its just a character archetype
to Valve its worse than an Epstein rape tape since that shit is still protected

>>724570029
Someone still really needs to confront them about inequality in what passes. Even some loli things get through just through the merit of not being huge. Their policy seems bizarre, there has to be something else up. I kind of wonder if we never see confrontations though because those are the ones that end up being passed.

>>724570425
It seems to be aping the strip rock paper scissors shit.

>>724570029
They do until they don't, the Inner Truth developer noted he went back and forth with Valve for a month with rejections before getting a full ban, while others just get an instant ban as their first rejection. Once an outright ban is given though, Valve will refuse any farther communication.

>>724566240 (OP)
>uncensored
>dlsite

>>724570430
For the most part, most loli stuff that gets through these days is doing so with patches, Valve isn't interested in reviewing anything that isn't put in front of them as they only host the Steam build.

The Valve review process, while subject to the digression of individual reviewers, mostly boils down to.
1.) Valve only reviews what is put in front of them for a Steam release. What the actual game looks like is irrelevant for a release.
2.) While Valve only considers content submitted to them, they require that the Steam build itself, no matter how sanitized it is, be described accurately on the Steam page and that the game (which is why Shiravune often says 1+ hours of gameplay) and can't within the Steam build give explicit (get the patch at X) or implicit (this is just an introduction) directions implying the existence of more game elsewhere.
3.) The content that can be rejected and permaban is something a reviewer finds sexual to a character which by appearance could be viewed as questionably aged. This need not be R18 content.
4.) If a rejection would potentially cause enough backlash to get mainstream English press, then the title will generally be passed through without any real review.

>>724571727
It sounds like a CERO D equivalent game, not an eroge with mosaics.

>>724572018
I wonder what would happen if there was something small like rear nudity nested hours within a game. How far do reviewers look and play? If people started posting it on the community hub after it was passed, would steam pull it? I think about doing this sometimes in a game idea I had.

>>724572018
>4.) If a rejection would potentially cause enough backlash to get mainstream English press, then the title will generally be passed through without any real review.
This seems like a meme

>>724572338
From what I understand, they often want to be given all relevant assets for anything under higher scrutiny (aka game having anime art) as part of the review process. Regardless of the review process, Valve also requires publishers to accurately report any content which would fall in the Mature Content Description on the Steam page that intends to be a descriptor so such content would need to be explicitly discussed/disclosed to some degree.

>>724572471
It's simply saying that they don't want another Chaos;Head situation.

>>724572654
This is why hentai publisjers just gut their game by the way

Because it outright circumvents all the steps that might get the game banned
And valve is more than happy to let it through

Well... unless you JAST or Shiravune then they have a grudge against you

>>724572471
They aren't giving Trails, Tales, Atelier, and Persona any real scrutiny.

>>724572959
Muramasa was the biggest Jast rejection, and it was because they didn't gut the game, they tried to keep as much of the original game as possible while staying under what they thought the guidelines at the time were, and ended up still going too close to the sun.

Shiravune has generally gotten nearly everything through ever since they started gutting everything, aside from DT2 and 2-2 which it seems like Aquaplus didn't want to do patches for.

>>724573146
>>724572959

I see. So by this logic, this explains why SFW and ecchi games get affected more because they have experience releasing on other platforms and get caught offguard when Valve still has a problem with the content of their game? Because from Steam's POV, it doesn't matter if you're R18 or not, nono content gets the boot.

>>724573351
Correct, for example the Nukitashi build is literally 20 minutes with nothing objectionable, so it was allowed onto Steam, nothing in that build could have been objected, even if there is 50 hours of objectionable content being hosted off of Steam. All that content means nothing to the Valve review team, they don't want to know anything about what is released off platform for liability reasons, and Nukitashi has now sold 100k copies thanks to that empty Steam release. DT2 on the other hand had all the content within the game to be judged by Valve review team, and the reviewer banned it because of the ecchi content that while not R18, was against their guidelines.

>>724573721

Why go to these lengths though. It seems like GOG, a relatively popular-ish PC storefront, is more than willing to host this objectionable content on their servers anyway. Or is GOG still too niche and obscure for actual scrutiny to happen upon them.

>>724573967
Senren Banka is probably a million seller thanks to the Steam release giving easy access to China. The Steam banned Angelic Chaos by the same Japanese developer probably has less than 10k sales outside of Japan because of the lack of a Steam release. Evenicle, which got most of its sales from the West, drastically outsold Evenicle 2 thanks to the latter being banned on Steam, even if it is hosted on GOG and numerous other platforms.

>>724573967
The ones who do this shit don't care about money. This is why they've managed to even destroy companies once thought invincible like Disney. They are like locusts.

>>724574263
>>724573967
I like GOG but it's a complete nonfactor in the grand scheme of things. It's a store that literally barely breaks even.

Maybe when GOG operates on the sheer scale Steam does they'll becone just as mindful of the "bad" content Valve watches out for. Untip then, accepting games Steam banned is a net positive no matter how little that benefit is.

>>724573967
GOG is like 1% as popular as Steam
also the main reason people care about GOG releases isn't because it means they plan to buy games there. GOG releases are all DRM free which makes them trivial to pirate. A GOG release might as well be saying "new free game alert!"

>>724573967
GOG isn't relevant in Asia and is only mildly relevant in the west.
I like the storefront and have bought quite a few games there (and will likely buy some of these games that have been banned on Steam there), but it's just not got the same reach and likely never will.

>>724574717
The problem is the GOG store is still shit after all this time. Like just now, I own a game on there that I KNOW has DLC for sale but it makes me jump through hoops to even find the fucking thing instead of just showing it to me on the main game page.

>>724566240 (OP)
repeat with me kids: IT'S OK WHEN STEAM DOES IT

>>724574717
>GOG isn't relevant in Asia
This is it

All these devs are clamoring for steam because theyre the gateway to the asian marketplace

>>724574263
Funny thing is Senren Banka actually has more Steam reviews than Danganronpa, but compare the limited backlash Steam got (at least in English) banning a Yuzusoft title as the sheer amount of backlash they would hypothetically would get if they were to say ban Danganronpa 2x2.

>>724575028
Specifically the Chinese marketplace. Something like half of all Steam users are Chinese or so I heard.

>>724575796
It's why Kagura is so successful despite only selling rpgmaker games. They understood the importance of China.

Which for some reason was a big blindspot for so many of these other VN publishers for so long.

>>724575796
Ecchi and R18 anime titles in particular tend to sell disproportionately well percentage wise in China on Steam compared to other genres.

>>724575796
China tend to avoid ugly games like most sane people but they also happen to be VERY accepting of everything anime to the point they just copied anime artstyle for all of their gacha.
A lot of business owners over there also tend to be otaku themselves, their youtube equivalent is even named after a certain underage anime character.

>>724567924

it really doesnt matter if japan notices gog is more lenient
if they also notice the games barely sell there then they stop caring

They need to start crowdfunding ecchi games. Its the most secure model going forward.
These guys did it and got all the money up front exceeding their requirements by almost 1000%. Now even if Steam fucks them in the ass which they probably will because anime = ban, they are still financially secure.
https://camp-fire.jp/projects/867108/view

Americans censoring shit as usual, fatfuck gaben

>>724576979
Unless it's a very simple game, the vast majority of crowdfunded games underestimate the money they need and need to beg a publisher to finish funding the rest.

Just dox and kill mary, it's that simple.

>>724566240 (OP)
I hope Gametop exists at this point from China. Can not be any worse than Steam.

>>724576215
It is genuinely absurd how the authoritarian country with a literal full-on porn ban is somehow more accepting of these funny Japanese games than the entire liberal west.

>>724577328
Stop putting children in your lewd games. It's that simple

>>724566240 (OP)
fuck the credit card kikes
fuck video game storefronts
fuck the inability to just launch a game without censorship

>>724579145
theyre putting children in lewd games? damn someone should contact their parents

>>724570004
what part of banks and credit card companies will fucking take away payments don't you understand? and then you have jewish anti-obscenity laws that exist for no fucking reason since pixels aren't alive and don't have rights

>>724579145
wtf how do you put children in computers? do you just like shove them into the floppy drive and go from there?

>>724570029
from other devs that have talked about this, no they dont.
they just tell you "change it" without telling you what, making you resubmit over and over again, delaying release by weeks or months cause they review when they feel like it.
and if it upsets a reviewer too much then permaban.

>>724581245
This is the message that typically gets sent to publishers when their game gets permabanned from Steam. Valve won't communicate with you after this, or if they do, it'll be just to reiterate that they're done with you.

>>724579018
Not really absurd. China doesn't need to push through draconian censorship laws under the guise of protecting children like the US is, theirs is already in place.

>>724580901
That sounds far more illegal than just drawing something that vaguely resembles them, absolutely horrifying.

>>724580486
>>724580901
>acting retarded
This is why your shitty games will keep getting banned

>>724581245
Even if a title gets through, a reviewer can also just go radio silence for a couple months even if they can't ban a title just to fuck with a publisher. Sekai Project was counting the days since they had gotten a response from Steam when the most recent Nekopara was in limbo

>>724566240 (OP)
For the developer, it would be much simpler and easier to just not intend the Steam to be playable and patch it instead of trying to make a Steam version that is heavily censored, compromises their original vision, and might still get banned anyways.

>>724586998
https://arch-img.b4k.dev/v/1757839133204.webm
nukitashi is a good example of that.

>>724581245
no you moron. with valve there are no second chances. you upset their fickle little minds, they burn the bridge. that's the worst part of all this poison: it's bullshit hays code-tier bullshit, only it's not even written down

>>724588389
but how do fans find the patch if the publisher's forbidden from mentioning, let alone advertising it?

>>724590641
>if the publisher's forbidden from mentioning, let alone advertising it?
On steam.
They're allowed to talk about them outside of steam.
Some publisher don't even bother mentioning them since their fanbase already know the "trick" and where to find them.

>>724592203
>Some publishers don't even bother mentioning them since their fanbase already know the "trick" and where to find them.
I guess it does come with the benefit of filtering the sub-90 IQ retards

>>724573146
>aside from DT2 and 2-2 which it seems like Aquaplus didn't want to do patches for.
Shiravune's release of DT2 still had Atlus' censorship in it so that's extra retarded.

> more pedo whining
why do you think anybody cares about your self-inflicted problems?

>>724590641
an "anonymous" poster links it in the discussion forum

>>724586998
Even this kind of games can be banned eh, like this one https://www.gog.com/en/game/an_aunt_after_my_own_heart from Shiravune.
And even Kagura Games got some games banned.
You all make it so simple, but it isn't, NekoNyan got a lot of trouble to get Aoi Tori on Steam, the reviewer was angry that the game was too short and they had to make the game 4 hours. Getting on Steam is hard in this way.
Personally i honestly don't want to buy destroyed games regardless.

>>724573967
>It seems like GOG, a relatively popular-ish PC storefront, is more than willing to host this objectionable content on their servers anyway.
GOG is still inconsistent just like Steam. They rejected several Rance games, they rejected the uncensored Tokyo Clanpool release, they rejected Kagura Games wanting to put more releases on their store, they rejected the Dungeon Travellers games as well, and they also region-lock many of the adult games they do sell.

>>724594137
You are giving misinformation , Rance was never rejected (they have all Rances except IX and 03 and MangaGamer staff said they are all ok with It and they are planning to release it there).
Dungeon Traveler isn't even on Jast, only Johren.
Tokyo Clanpool was censored due to Nintendo Asia, the publisher itself admitted it that It wasn't GOG fault.
The Kagura Games fact is true but they released 8 games from Kagura Games After that statement, not even a month ago ( like this one https://www.gog.com/en/game/angel_tear_goddess_betrayed ).
So they haven't stopped.

>>724576979
>funding exceeded by 7 times
>23 days left
I kneel

>>724594137
https://discord.com/channels/556059158047096832/590928355998564352/1355951661104758894 (Proof from MangaGamer discord that GOG NEVER rejected Rance).
GOG has its own issues, but damn, not even one of you said one of it, only misinformation.
That said i hope more people will start using it.

>>724594607
>Tokyo Clanpool was censored due to Nintendo Asia, the publisher itself admitted it that It wasn't GOG fault.

>>724567339
No shit, Sherlock, this was the whole point of killing consoles and pushing everyone on to PC in the first place: to stamp out traditional Japanese games and force everyone to play western slop. That's why western games get special double standards.

>>724595636
They lied, i don't trust them, they said another thing before. GOG won't allow this but they allowed this https://www.gog.com/en/game/himegashima_island uncensored? Bullshit.
That said all the other things you said, especially the Rance one is Bullshit.

>>724595919
>could GOG be inconsistent?
>no, they must be lying

>>724566240 (OP)
>H9
Literally who?
>censorship
So it's a pedo game. Ok.

Visa needs to stop this

>>724593861
>You all make it so simple, but it isn't, NekoNyan got a lot of trouble to get Aoi Tori on Steam, the reviewer was angry that the game was too short and they had to make the game 4 hours. Getting on Steam is hard in this way.

The problem Aoi Tori had was the first Steam build was labeled as an introduction and some other parts of the build indicated it was to be continued, making it resemble a partial product. It also didn't lead to a ban because it wasn't for content reasons, so they could resubmit.

The fix to this is that the empty Steam build needs to be accurately described as such on the Steam page, and can't give anything in the short Steam build that it is incomplete.

>>724595992
Think whatever you, but they aren't incredible reliable, they didn't said the game was censored until the last minute, and they knew.
https://archive.fo/DhG54
https://varishangout.com/index.php?threads/tokyo-clanpool-minigame-censored-on-switch-and-gog.2828/post-31363

Do i think GOG is perfect? No, but it's 10x more lenient than Steam in accepting content. This a fact, then believe what you want, i know that people are crazy about Steam but at least.
And they never rejected Rance

>>724596321
Withholding information about their own release was a shit move but that's obviously not the same as outright lying about their business partner and it would create friction with GOG if they did lie.
>Do i think GOG is perfect? No, but it's 10x more lenient than Steam in accepting content.
Mad Island on GOG when?

>>724567339
Steam has never had a problem with sex or nudity. It's when the characters are explicitly middle schoolers or elementary schoolers that they get bothered by

and obviously so

>>724596439
They also said that they didn't want the Nintendo players to have a different game, i can't put the screenshot but i honestly don't believe them on that point. Mad Island got rejected by GOG? The Steam version is censored. But does Steam have Song of Saya uncensored? Because GOG has it. Does Steam have 100+ Kagura Games uncensored? No, but GOG have it (only 2 games are not patched). Tokyo clanpool on Steam is censored? Oh wait, the censored version got banned!
With this i finished, i already told everything i needed to say, people will get their comclusions, have a nice day

>>724593861
>And even Kagura Games got some games banned.

Yes they have, but the steam ban list shows their last banned title as Princess Project in September 2024, with 38 titles being successfully launched on Steam since then without a ban including stuff like Hold Me Tight All Night, Onii-chan!, so seems if you know what you are doing you generally don't catch bans and can launch on the platform without issue.

>>724595919
bro whats this?

>>724596907
>but Steam rejects things too!
No one is saying otherwise you retarded fanboy, the problem is that GOG is also inconsistent.

>>724597237
And what is this then? https://www.gog.com/en/game/himegashima_island_unrated

Answer bro.

>>724597407
I am not a GOG fanboy, i buy most eroges on Jast lol.
I only corrected misinformation, like Rance one

>>724597236
That is true, but it's always not that easy, Kagura Games even delete voices from the Steam relese. That said thanks for the people that answered my replies without insulting me, there are a few people that knows things here at least.
And i don't care about who insulted me, i never did it. Have a nice day everyone

>>724572338
>I wonder what would happen if there was something small like rear nudity nested hours within a game
Loli nipples have gotten onto Steam in that kind of scenario. As long as it's not blatantly in your face sexualizing little girls, your game has a good chance. Valve is just inconsistent because their employees have loads of autonomy and different tolerances and interpretations of the guidelines.

>>724590641
Other people can talk about the patch, the devs just aren't allowed to advertise or directly link to it. Also, when they make it that blatant and you're playing that kind of game to begin with, you definitely know what's up and will go to their site.

>>724597578
New anon. Why buy from JAST and GOG? Advertise them to me.

>>724567339
Now you're getting it

>>724598196
>>724598196
https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/1nfpvri/steam_review_mentioning_patches_got_banned/
Not Always.
And read also the comments.

>>724598279
I don't want to advertise any store, anyone can buy where you want. Or if you want to pirate i don't care.
I won't answer here in this forum anymore, having discussion is ok, but i don't likes certain things.

>>724597961
Games with high school and lower scenarios also get scrutiny. Beyond just explicitly or implied underage characters and underage related scenarios, the Order Us! censorship (>>724581646
) proves petite, 2d characters get scrutiny from Steam too. Anything minor-coded is scrutinized.

>>724598573
Huh. I've seen a bunch of users do it in reviews and asking if there's a patch in the discussion section, but I guess it is actually against the rules.

>>724598758
Order Us! is definitely the worst offender of all Steam's bans and one of the biggest reasons why Mary gets thrown around as someone who needs get fired.

>>724598573
Can confirm this.
I myself got a temporary community ban just for UPVOTING a review who had a link for a patch.
The staff will lie to your face saying that you got banned because they thought you were promoting scam links, regardless of how much you actually play.

>>724598720
So I guess the only reason to buy from those stores is to purchase games banned from Steam. In any case, people just pirate them anyway. No wonder every company just wants to publish on Steam.

>>724598196
Indeed, Valve's view on patches seems to be is that they don't look to see if there is one, they don't want to know about it, and they want to be sure the publishers on Steam don't post any such link on Steam as it could be viewed as giving it an official blessing. The main reason is they don't want to accept any liability for policing such off Steam content. They also take quick action if a developer were to try to do a "unlock" type patch for R18 content, as they make it clear they don't want to host such content on their own servers.

What is much more mixed though is how they handle non-official links to patches, which can range from ignore to go out of their way to block.

>>724598991
Steam has the monopoly for many reasons, the only thing where GOG is better than Steam is old games. That said i prefer DRM free, but it is a personal preference, anyone can do whatever they want, and i will never try to advertise stores, i don't work there. That said i like all 3 stores, and i also like itch.io

>>724599089
It's all just for plausible deniability and legal safety nets. Largely due to intentionally vague obscenity laws and dubious legality. That way if something like these new porn laws in the US explicitly going after art want to target a game on Steam, Valve can throw up their hands and say they didn't host any of the offending content and it's not their responsibility what a dev or publisher uploads to their own site.

The japanese government needs to
1. BLOCK Steam in Japan
2. BAN Japanese devs for publishing their games on Steam
3. REVOKE all Japanese games currently published on Steam
4. Have a conversation with Valve and demand exclusive reviewers (japanese nationals) for Japanese-made games

Video games is one of Japan's BIGGEST cultural export. This shit matters too much and the government must be aware of this fact. They need to take action. but of course they won't. japs are non-confrontional pussies. cucks.

>>724598573
>>724598883
>mentioning patches banned
fucking hell. how cancerous
ps: fuck the credit card and banker kikes. and the government kikes who pass censorship laws

>>724599732
>dude just region-lock japanese games like it was the '90s
are you retarded

>>724600041
>dude just region-lock japanese games like it was the '90s
yes

>are you retarded
no

>>724600138
I'm gonna get my flat-chested loli titties and there's nothing you faggots can do about it

>>724600323
you aren't getting them as long as the japs play by american/jewish rules

>>724599732
Any political will within Japan would much sooner be pushed to address payment processors, app stores, and cloud services than what has been rejected by Steam to date. Though I guess in theory a general catchall law restricting what large international platforms may reject for domestic Japanese sales could also capture Steam.

>>724566240 (OP)
I wonder why I don't see 500 threads about steam's censorship

>>724599732
Japan has their own problems with their new PM saying she's going to censor everything and their own corporations banning and censoring far tamer games far more often than Steam. The Japanese just need to learn how Steam, PC, and the west work.

>>724601316
Because patches aren't censorship.

>>724601316
>I wonder why I don't see 500 threads about steam's censorship
there are threads all the time
you then change your song and tune to "omg video games? wtf ure spamming"
kill yourself

>>724601316
i dont know what the fuck is h9
i guess its the same for almost everyone else
and since no shills are getting paid . no threads

>>724601316
You get threads constantly whenever steam refuses or so much as delays a game. You're in one.
Let me guess, tendie with a victim complex?

>>724601706
if you remove things from the game yes

>>724603906
If you can trivially add it back in on that same platform, who cares
The only problem is when steam outright bans something

>>724599732
>shut down an entire revenue stream because a handful of ecchi or porn ganes get banned

lmao good luck with that
this is why valve gets way with shit
because for every one game they ban a whole bunch of other japshit gets through and becomes successes

>we have to actively make things worse so things can get better
>ignores the fact that nothing ever gets better
I want /pol/ to leave.

>>724566240 (OP)
is steam cool with a competitor like GOG having a better version than them?

>>724606996
GOG has fuckall market share.

>DLSite
We're headed for Japan… That's where our new home is now. Hey. That was some operation we had, huh? Nine years ago… Carving out our own world… Making our own future… And they took it away. I'm gonna rebuild it… Make a new place, together. That we can call home. Yeah, we had sites, alright. Slinking around out of Payment Processor's sight. Picking up whatever kind of dirty money we could find. You name it, we did it… You see this? DLSite… Our new home. A phantom of our former selves… Triumph, death… We weren't allowed either. Yeah, I remember it all. Snake… Why are we still here… Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my life, and my hometown… and even my happiness… The games I've lost… and the creators I've lost… It won't stop hurting, like they're all still there… You feel it too, don't you? I'm the one who got caught up with the Payment Processors, groups above nations, even the US, and I was the parasite below, feeding off VISA's power… They came after you in Steam, then itch.io. Payment Processors just… keeps growing, swallowing everything in its path, getting bigger and bigger. Who knows how big now… Boss… I'm gonna make 'em give back our past… Take back everything that we've lost. And I won’t rest… until we do. Our new Mother Base. I don't know how long it'll take, but I'll make it bigger… better than before… Boss... [The helicopter lands at Mother Base] Things have changed, Boss. We pull in money, recruits, just to combat Payment Processors. Rubbing our noses in bloody battlefield dirt, all for revenge. The world calls for wetwork, and we answer. No greater good, no just cause. Payment Processors sent us to hell… But we're going even deeper. Sites at war, for nine whole years. That ends today. Now you're not sleeping, and we're not global sites... We're DLSite. We can crush Payment Processors, Boss. And you can build the army that can do it.

>>724606996
If they did, their recourse would be to block sales on Steam (which itself is coming later than these platforms).

so there's no uncensored storefront you can access from US anymore?

>>724610223
There are the R18 storefronts (Jast/MG/Fakku/etc) though they obviously have much less reach and those not making porn generally would prefer to use other storefronts. Though Jast is hosting Holy Undead for Visual Arts after its Steam ban.

I'm not seeing this game on gog.
Might actually have to start buying games on their storefront if they release shit uncensored.

>>724606996
Valve would probably care if GOG had any sway. As is, these are extremely niche games going to a store that has only a tiny fraction of the userbase. Valve has no reason to care. They do this because they deem these games a risk and they're losing very, very little money over it. To Valve, it's not worth the potential trouble they could cause, as seen when the payment processor assholes started kicking shit in.

>>724595705
There's nothing stopping Japanese publishers and gamers from adoption vendor-neutral physical copies.

>>724611123
And the great irony is that if GOG was big enough to have sway, then they instantly become a target for payment processors as well.

>>724611123
What Valve seems to care about and what payment processors seems to care about are different. When Valve was forced to remove stuff over the Summer because of payment processors, it was largely porn they allowed that had terms in the title or store description that were on the list payment processors send to adult video websites to remove (stuff like rape/hypnosis/slave/incest).

>>724570430
>>724572018
Valve doesn't have a coherent content policy, they just have random employees stamp pass or fail based on vibes and feelings. Since there is absolutely no control system or appeal process for any of this, individual people can reject whatever they want for no reason.

>>724613073
Legit skill issue.

Just understand the rules of engagement.

>>724567924
what little aoi gonna do?

>>724613124
Kagura and mango are too strong desu

>>724613124
I need a rundown on all of these publishers because I'm at work and can't log into steam

>>724566240 (OP)
Valve needs to clean house and fire people responsible for treating Japanese games like shit.

>>724613395
All success porn publishers that have released way worse shit on Steam on a consistent basis than these SFW devs.

>>724613578
What if the current head of Valve hates Japanese media too? no, Gaben is no longer involved. he's irrelevant. Also there's payment processors that are far more powerful than Valve.