Thread 724580051

Patent trolls lost.

ARK won

PalGODS keep winning

>>724580051 (OP)
Unfortunately not yet. There is several groups of people the patent has to go through before it's fully dropped. It can re-emerge.

>>724580051 (OP)
Nintendo will appeal and win

>>724580051 (OP)
didn't they also try to patent riding monsters?

>>724580959
There is no appeal. Retard.

Tendies are awfully quiet

Nintendo already won the US. They were granted the patents and nothing you can do about it.

>>724580051 (OP)
>Nintendo didn't invent trapping animals

Palworld is like video game crack to me, I find they borrowed the exact things they needed to borrow from different genres to make a really good project. I did stop playing though after the Terraria collab because I just don't give a fuck about Terraria and to me those kind of collabs detract from the overall package when you consider they could have added something important and original instead.

Shameless self promo for my free 2D crime sandbox project:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HulO5oR4SaU

Is anyone even side with Palworld besides contrarian snoys?

>>724582340
yes, me. i hate sony and nintendo equally.

It wasn't about winning the patent lawsuit but interfering with their competitor.

>>724580484
>There is several groups
redeem English, Sanjeet

>>724582340
Yes, anyone with a brain doesn't side with fucking Nintendo of all companies, they hate all of you brownoids, but please keep sucking Mario's cock

>>724582340
Good morning sar

>>724581573
The good thing about the Terraria collab is that you can ignore it as it's contained to a single dungeon in game. There may be a mod to remove the dungeon portal too but idk.

>>724581564
Where she goin

>>724581564
>webm
why tho

>>724580051 (OP)
I have yet to see someone post which patent was rejected.
I am going to consider all posts about this to be AI grifts until I see someone post something with actual information in it.

>>724582340
I side with Palworld on the account that Nintendo shouldn't have more power for the industry than they already have. A different monster catching franchise isn't going to usurp Pokémon because the fans have Stockholm syndrome. Nintendo has zero reason to be suing. Their biggest possible reason was clearly designs but they instead sue on Mechanics that Palworld tangentially shares with Pokémon among countless other monster catching franchises. Also it's clear they only cared to sue them once a competing company sought to distribute merch. Doing this solely out of fear of stepping on their toes.

Nintendo winning this lawsuit will only give Nintendo more power of the industry that they clearly have no business having. They are the game industries Disney.

>>724580051 (OP)
>gamesfray
Of all the sites you can use, why do you have to use that one? I hate Nintendo and their bullshit but using gamesfray just makes things worse.

>>724583869
why do you jumb to conclusion that he is india? there are many countries on this board that do not sbeak english on native

>>724584145
To get to the other side

>>724580051 (OP)
if nintendo had a case they would have won already; this is all about how they cant handle someone standing up to them

>>724584172
>i cant read therefore everyone is AI
perhaps you should take some nintendo adult school classes?

>>724584474
You mean if pocketpair had a chance the lawsuit would have been dismissed as fast as this patent was

kneel

>>724584345
Would you prefer we made fun of your country instead?

>>724581564
why did she do it?

>>724581451

They can't patent game mechanics in the U.S., only specific implementations of game mechanics.

>>724586809
Then the nemesis system? Is it not a mechanic itself?

>>724586809
>>724586982

>>724586982

No, they have a patent for their implementation of the nemesis system. You could make your own, you'd just have to call it something else and it can't function in the same way.

>>724582340
I dont like super vague copyright laws. Thats not contrarian.

>>724582340
Holy ESL batman

>>724580051 (OP)
shill world lost

>>724586008
So india, then

>>724582340
Pokemon fans, and I'm not referring to tendies but the true fans who are like best friends that want Pokémon to reach the kino heights they could rise to if they actually tried.

>nintendo is even losing in japan now
it's beyond over for nintentoddlers

>>724584172
>A decision called Office action, made by a patent examiner of the Japan Patent Office (JPO) less than two weeks ago, casts serious doubt on the validity of two of Nintendo’s three Japanese patents-in-suit. This is about pending application no. 2024-031879 that is a sibling of one of those anti-Palworld “monster capture” patents and the parent of another. It has been rejected (on a non-final basis) because the patent office, after a third-party submission of prior art, determined that the claimed technique lacked an inventive step. The prior art references cited by the JPO include various games that predate Nintendo’s December 2021 priority date, among them Studio Wildcard’s ARK, Capcom’s Monster Hunter 4, Pocketpair’s Craftopia, a Japanese brower game named Kantai Collection (Web Archive link), and Pokémon GO.

>>724582340
It's one of those games you can only enjoy if you have a nintendo hate boner like that shitty sonic racing game or ching chong impact (when it released, now it's played by weebs).

>>724588550
So basically comon sense prevails (for now)?
You shouldn´t be able to patent something that has been used for ages before and not by you.

>>724580051 (OP)
Nintendo isn't patent trolling

>>724588550
>anti-Palworld “monster capture” patents
A mad child wrote this

You shouldn't be able to patent a game mechanic. It is like patenting a plot twist or a specific metaphor.

>>724589268
That's exactly what it is though? Why are you pretending it isn't now? Months ago every nintentard was out-right saying it was.

>>724589373
You're under the delusion that patenting something means nobody else can use it

Nintendo should patent patents.

>>724589463
Patenting your own game's mechanics isn't a hostile act.

>>724582340
>I DON'T SIDE WITH ANY FACELESS CORPORATIONS!
>I SIDE WITH MY FRIENDS AND MY OWN PRINCIPLES!

>>724589268
>Nintodler
The seething is real

>>724589695
Sure.

>>724589764
Indeed.

>>724589116
nintendo are worse than patent trolls, they try to patent things other people have made decades ago

>>724589472
How does it work then?

>>724589672
Well said Bladewolf.
Now shut up and let me continue fucking that dog robussy.

>>724585828
>sheltered community and extremely distrusting of anyone specially new players.
save some money.

>>724589373
Nintendo isn't trying to patent a game mechanic. They're trying to patent the exact steps of the game mechanic. When it comes to patents there's a massive difference between "you capture creatures to serve you" and "you perform this specific action(attacking the creature) to create this specific outcome(lowering its health) which impacts the chance of capturing the creature(by throwing a ball at it to trap it inside) and additionally you can add several layers(inflict status ailments) to make the capture even easier.

It's the same thing with traditional games. You can not patent the idea of moving a piece around a board in an attempt to buy all the spaces and create a board space monopoly which results in the defeat of other players. What you can patent is the exact rules of your iteration of that game.

>>724581564
wtf why

>>724589904
Patenting existing mechanincs is a completely normal part of patents. You should look up how patents work.

>>724589905
>>724589985

>>724587079
Why the fuck did you link a post to another post when it was already a reply to the post and thus automatically linked to the post?

>>724589985
nintendoid mental illness post

>>724590224
Sure.

>>724590061
> I think this shouldn't exist because it is retarded
> No, it is actually normal because it exists already
What is your point?l

>>724589964
It should be a plagiarism issue, not a patent issue.

>>724590317
Simple: the reason you think patents are retarded is a non existent problem with patents, since anybody can use all prior patented mechanics as long as they put their onw unique stamp on it and don't just directly copy someone else.

>>724590397
Two entirely different things.

>>724589948
Based deviant clanker.

>>724589985
In any civilized country, patents aren't permitted when there's prior art. They are inventions - they have to be first and foremost novel. YOU should look up how patents work.

>>724580051 (OP)
It's fascinating seeing the false equivalence of [patent application denial] = [lawsuit on granted patent likely to fail]. These are completely unrelated.

>>724581058
Right. They will just hand in a revised patent application and get it.

>>724589964
Its a shame that the patent that got shut down was "Being able to ride monsters"

>>724590790
So you want patents to be used as a means to monopolize broad concepts like summoning and capturing? I thought that was your entire problem.

>contrarian trannies are shilling a tencent survival open world crafting unreal engine asset flip for the sake of pitting something against nintendo
kek

>>724581451
If you're rich, amerikkkunts who say they hate immigrants will suck your foreign cock. Hopefully the rest of the world will stop respecting their opinions and rulings

>>724582340
Gamers side with Palworld because Pokemon has stagnated for over 20 years now and failed upwards anyways.

Palworld was the most enjoyable Pokemon game I think I've ever played, next to Silver or Crystal.

>>724591534
ARK is better.

>>724584201
>They are the game industries Disney.
/thread

they are right

>>724592147
Yup, If they even liked the genre they would have played ARK for the last 10 years. Unfortunately they're just in it for the manufactured outrage.

>>724591692
Ark has no cute, no flavor

>>724592147
They are retards on xitter and you're an even bigger retard trawling it for nuggets of shit like that to drag back here.

>the ARKfag is still refreshing the catalog 20 hours a day waiting for any Palworld threads to show up so he can shove his shitty 330gb garbage in everyone's face
What an existence.

>>724592342
Pokemon is cuter and more flavorfilled.

Its been like, what, three years? Are people still pretending palworld is not the pokemon game people wanted for years?

>>724585828
That game for some reason tried to brick my pc. I won't ever try reinstalling it. Though the little bit I did manage to play was interesting.
And now captcha is loading real slow... the hell is going on.

>>724591534
I don't care about Pokemon and would just like for Nintendo to stop fucking with a game I enjoyed.

>>724592465
The topic of this thread is an ARK gameplay mechanic being the entire cause of a failed Nintendo patent filing. Try to keep up lil bro.

>>724592147
I was tracking Palworld since its original announcement, because I was 100% sure it was a scam and never coming out.
Boy was I surprised.

>>724592330
Nah, I still like it more than ARK. Its been awhile since I played, but I remember becoming a bird lord to take on a boss only to realize no flying creatures are allowed in its arena once I finally went to throw down.

I just think Palworld's setup is more comfy, and prefer it's progression, even if you have to tweak the grind sliders a little bit once you get past single shot firearms.

>>724592532
Correct. People are still understanding that Palworld is ARK for babies.

>>724582340
Anyone who is not a retard and wants gaming to be good for gaming sides with palworld.
Patents for game mechanics stifle creativity. The whole argument for why patents should exist in the first place, to reward and promote creativity. instead you have big companies patenting stuff like "catching monster then using monster to fly" in a patent then doing nothing new with it for 30 years like gamefreak. Its not like they invented some drug that saves millions of lives, they took a basic bitch concept that has existed before gaming was a thing, the idea of using animals to fight and do work for you, and then tried to patent it.

Again, anyone who is for gaming to be good for gaming will be against game mechanic patents in general. If you are pro game mechanic patents you are a faggot fanboy or some soulless corporate cocksucker.

>>724592742
Palword is certainly a more casual ARK for people who just want grind and breed with furry emotes.

>>724592742
You're responding to a troll who shows up in every Palworld thread to shill a shittier version of the game which takes up more than 10x the disk space.

>>724592147
>"abysmal dogshit"
>look inside
>decent and fun game
dumb tranny

>>724592147
I like them both. They aren't really similar at all outside of them both involving monster catching and battling mechanics. But those aren't the exclusive mechanics of Palworld. Saying that, I can still acknowledge that aspects of Palworld that are similar to Pokemon are done better by Palworld (and some are done better by Pokemon). That doesn't mean I don't like Pokemon, it just means I'm willing to admit that a game I like is not preforming as well as a new game that has some of the same mechanics. That being said, if Pokemon did those mechanics better than Palworld, I would probably not bother saying that the mechanics are better because that's how it should be. The default should be Pokemon outperforming, so why would I applaud them for it? Also, the mechanics that both games have that aren't shared by the other still exist.

I'm just saying it's stupid fucking brainlet thinking to say that people who like Palworld don't like Pokemon when they make comparisons because that's human fucking nature.

I saved anon's post from a past thread because he was right.
>Coopting their visual identity/style so clearly that the average person could look at it and think it's pokemon is infringing on their copyright.
>Are you brown?
>Maybe a bug?
>Here, if you can even read English
>>https://www.copyright.gov/engage/visual-artists/
>Read the part about
>>subject matter, composition, depiction, and the use of the elements
>The "style" itself can't be copyrighted, but specific elements that compose that style can.
>The whole patent shit is petty as fuck, there's no reason for Nintendo to be going through this, it just serves to paint them as "the villain".
>And worse, they can lose this shit for no benefit whatsoever.
>It's so frustrating.

>>724592865
>>724592676

>>724591513
Uh-oh, this tendie is getting a little crispy

>>724592469
But I need an open world with real time combat and a base for my cuties. Pokemon hasn't delivered

>>724592865
this thread is literally palbronies making ark news about shitworld you dumbfuck

Erm, revengesisters? We didn't take into account that Nintendo would lose, did we?

revenge status?

>>724592147
Imagine having a meltdown because the company you worship wasn't able to successfully patent troll.

>>724592898
isn't this the part where someone posts the dragon quest comparison?

>>724593128
any day now xister

Patents are a jewish scam and for every one legitimate use for them, if any legitimate uses exist at all, there are a million abuses.

I don't care about any of this shit I just want to know what the fuck?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEcaY7IW0WU
What the fuck?

>>724592147
I like Palworld because I like monster catchers. I like Pokémon too, but the state of the current games are completely unacceptable.

>>724593134
>Imagine
I don't want to. I don't want to imagine the toll that running a damage control campaign day in and day out, defending the indefensible, having to endure being laughed at and scorned, all without even being paid for it all for the sake of a company that wouldn't dare to be seen with me in public and milks me with no show of appreciation in return would have on my mind and health.

Patent trolling should be illegal and the companies should be forced to pay fines

fuck nintendo and their petty patent trolling

>>724580051 (OP)
>NOOOOOOOOO MY FAVORITE MULTIBILLION DOLLAR COMPANY SHOULD'VE WON!!!
I can't imagine simping for any corp, but goddamn. Tendies are worse than snoys.

>>724593508
>f2p
Shame, I hoped it would be a game I'd like.

>>724593134
Yeah this wasn't patent trolling, this was patent filing.

>>724593435
Patents are a major driving force of innovation.

>>724593925
Incorrect.

>>724593949
I disagree.

>>724593653
>>724593547
This wasn't patent trolling. You are trolling however.

>>724594071
It was. Cool cope tho

>>724593949
Patents are good. Extending the patents' expiration to beyond the life of their creators so that greedy corpos can hold onto them isn't.

>>724594159
It wasn't. This isn't a matter of opinion, it just factually wasn't.

>>724581564
Reported.

>>724594382
>N-NO!
Okay. Tendie

>>724594450
Sure.

>>724594525
At least you didn't deny it.

>>724589672
>>724589948
Unrelated to the thread but I’m still annoyed we haven’t gotten a Revengeance 2 with more playable Bladewolf.

>>724582340
>tendieshill got cooked sideways
kek any company that find excuses to justify the release of inferior products for the sake of money is a cancer to the entire industry they're part of.

>>724594071
>>724594382
You haven't explained for almost two years why Nintendo decided to patent this now instead of any prior point in time after Pokemon Red/Green came out.

>>724594570
Didn't need to. Nothing I say changes the factual reality of what patent trolling is, my little troll friend.

>>724594792
>Trying to get the last word after your nintendo got btfo by the law
Damn that's sad

>>724594671
Are you asking me to teach you something?

>>724594267
Patents only work when the system designed for them works. It doesn't. Nearly every patent system in the world is bogged down in bullshit which is why it's so easy to patent troll. All it takes is one overworked nobody to stamp a paper which shouldn't be stamped and suddenly a half-decade-long lawsuit between two multi-million if not billion dollar companies can occur.

>>724594867
Sure.

>>724594962
Sure.

>>724594913
Filing a patent isn't patent trolling.

>>724580051 (OP)
Katress Wife

patent nintentroll
patent trolltendo
patendo troll

just workshopping some stuff dont mind me

>>724592342
>floppie

>>724595331
Sure.

>>724595101
Filing a patent after the fact and changing your patent in the middle of a lawsuit is a gross abuse of the patent system. Concession accepted.

>>724592330
I dont give a shit about dinos
However, fakemons fighting in an active battle system pokemon should have already refined 15 years ago? Yes please, I love the concept, and if nintendo decided to stay staler than my workplace's emergency medkit, they have absolutely no fucking right to complain when someone else's doing the absolutely obvious thing

>>724595101
Filing a patent then targetting specifically one single company with litigation to coerce it out of the market is patent trolling, thoughbeit.

>>724594894
Do you see a question mark, my dear sweatie?

>>724595840
That still isn't what patent trolling is lol
>Concession accepted.
Lol no

>>724580051 (OP)
>/v/ is now siding with twittertroons and gaming journalists that are literally spreading lies because they don't know how Japanese law works

>>724596207
All good. You'll continue waiting for an explanation then.
>>724596083
I didn't ask.
>>724596117
No it isn't.

It's painfully obvious it's just one tendie defending Nintendo's honor for free, LMAO. Be thankful you're not that pathetic.

>>724596207
Then continue waiting for an explanation.

So you know that they have like 60 days to amend the patent and resubmit it right?
And that it's also not even related to the palworld lawsuit at all?
Of course you don't, you just like being a faggot.

>>724596276
>>724596381
Sure.

>>724596242
>>724595101
Patent trolling is specifically when you file some vague bullshit idea without an idea of how it works before it becomes an actual technology so you can get credit for it. Nintendo's case is almost the opposite, filing years too late.

>>724595386
Me when some bitch puts 80 rocks in my pocket

>>724596481
They don't know anything about patents. They were told to be outraged and they're just following orders.

>>724596574
nintendo is patenting as many things as they can, in any way that they can, that other people made first to see what sticks, similar to how patent trolls patent as much shit as they can whether or not someone else did it first to see what sticks. its almost identical. just because nintendo is retarded and only did it after palworld spooked them doesnt mean they arent patent trolling.

>>724596242
>n-n-no!
You are incorrect. Concession accepted. Thanks for making this so easy.

>>724596606
>projects his own outrage over Nintendo losing that he thinks the people laughing at him and Nintendo are the ones outraged
You just can't help yourself.

Thank god Nintendo is able to foster creativity by inventing and patenting standing on a moving object, I was worried the industry would stagnate without the patent

>>724596481
Yes, yes. We know Nintendo will cough up a few millions to get the Japanese patent-kuns back under their thumb. Doesn't change the fact they lost to Palworld.

>>724597023
Sure.
>>724596846
Patenting things that you use can't ever be patent trolling. Also patents almost always include concepts that someone else invented. It's 100% normal. And no, they aren't just throwing shit to see what sticks because they actually use what they are patenting, they were just told to revise it.

>>724597175
Who are you monologuing to?

Fucking judgesnoys picking on my friends at Nintendo.

>>724597628
Nobody, I'm simply thinking out loud that I'm happy Nintendo invented standing on moving objects

>>724580051 (OP)
>the best competition Pokemon has is a fucking Ark-like
grim

>>724597734
No they didn't. You don't know how patents work.

>>724597550
>Patenting things that you use can't ever be patent trolling.

In international law and business, patent trolling or patent hoarding is a categorical or pejorative term applied to a person or company that attempts to enforce patent rights against accused infringers far beyond the patent's actual value or contribution to the prior art,[1] often through hardball legal tactics (frivolous litigation, vexatious litigation, strategic lawsuits against public participation (SLAPP), chilling effects, etc.).

Sounds just like Nintendo. You are making up your own new definition of patent trolling to defend your favorite bing bing wahoo company.

>ctrl+f Sure.
>8 results
He's fucking seething lmao
He'll survive.

>>724597817
Wait if they didn't invent it then how did they patent it?
I thought it was a way for creators to protect ideas that they invented?
Explain please

>Nintendo main selling point is innovation
>haven't innovated jackshit in decades

>>724592330
Palworld doesn't chug like ARK does.

>>724591158
lol no they won't. It's already been proven that Nintendo didn't invent shit and the courts are going to tell them to fuck off if they come for it again. And why are you simping for a multibillion dollar corpo who has time and again taken the stance that you should pay them more while they give you less?

>inb4 "YOU'RE A SNOY! YUO PROBUBBLY HAVE A PS5 UNIRONICALLY THIS VERY SECOND!

>>724597175
holy shit I need to know this in order to make a game?

>>724598017
You weren't supposed to point this out

>>724582340
>Is anyone even side

>>724597175
It must be so embarrassing to pretend like a fucking retard when applying for these patents.

>>724598110
yes you do because nintendo might sue you if you do something similar, they are patent trolls

>>724597894
You're suggesting that Nintendo is developing entire video games for the sole purpose of acquiring a patent, to use that patent to profit through lawsuits. They are in fact, not doing this and it isn't remotely debatable.

>>724593134
It's the Nintentroon way to throw a fit whenever they see people having fun without Nintendo's permission.

>>724598320
That's not in the definition. Try again.

>>724597983
Then you were wrong. 99% of a patent can be concepts someone else invented and usually are. What you are patenting is a single granual of the mechanic, one novel aspect that seperates it from your competitors so that someone else can't claim you stole from them. It is not used to monopolize broad concepts like summoning or riding on platforms.

>>724598523
Nah I got it right the first time.

>>724598259
fuck this shit

>>724598974
>>724597175
>I AM SILLY

>>724598895
And what's the novel idea in the standing on a moving object patent?
For my records please, I gotta know

>>724582340
I side with Palword and I didn't play the game, and I never will.

>>724582340
I'm not in this for Palworld's sake, that game always looked liked some bootleg mobileshit copying every trend with no shame. I'm in this for Nintendo's failure at fully becoming videogames' Disney and further-ruining basic industry standards to now directly kill competition instead of beating them through quality, and I'm especially embarrassed for Pokemon's current state given Game Freak has no chance of meriting competence on their own thanks to the same autismos who prop zombies like Sonic up. Nintendo is terrified of seeds being planted for future rivals that could someday actually strike that Achilles' Heel, as impossible as it may currently seem, and it's the only way TPC is going to be forced to change.

I'm still waiting for people to dig up the old Pokemon Creator interviews where they go into detail on all the ideas and where they stole them from.

>>724599282
Couldn't tell you. I have no idea what the source of that image is. And even if the patent that the image is from is located I'm not even sure I would understand what it's detailing without someone explaining the technical terms to me.

>>724597175
Nintendo apparently never heard of Space Engineers or they're hoping the patent office doesn't.

>We invented transferrable kinetic energy, no-one else can use it.

>>724599464
>I couldn't tell you
>but even if I can't explain why I'm more than ready to bat for my friends at Nintendo when they need me to
Grim

>>724598974
Be wary Kingslayer Orkus, for infeesr that in 20 years an oriental video game company shall patent the concept of summoning a ridable monster in a video game and sue you

>>724599515
>still thinks patents are for hoarding ideas
You don't know how patents work. They're so fuckign easily bypassed, all you have to do is modify a single aspect of it and you're safe. The fact that pocketpair is in this deep still means they likely directly copied Nintendo with no effort at a making a novel change, and is why they have already been forced to make changes to their games.

>>724599682
You dont know either.

>>724599717
orkus…home…holy sovl….

>>724582340
People who aren't frogtrannies are definitely amongst them

>>724599860
>They're so fuckign easily bypassed, all you have to do is modify a single aspect of it and you're safe
Okay, how would you bypass >>724597175

>>724599464
>Nintendo are not trying to patent the concept of standing on a moving object!
>Well explain please it really looks like that's the case
>No!

>>724592147
>Literal who twitter retard posts
Tendies are getting very desperate

>>724600089
>>724599464

>>724583869
How did you know I was indian?

>>724580051 (OP)
I don't think you understand what they're doing here. It doesn't matter that they lose, what matters is that their competition has to spend money to fight their bullshit patents and lawsuits. This is the power of fuck you money

>>724600113
What's the patent number? I could try to learn for both of us.

>>724600235
>it's so easy
>but I don't know
Guess it's not so easy

>>724600264
The fact it's drawn out this long with no end in sight tells me this is the case
If they had a strong claim to stand on it would have already gone in their favor or resulted in a settlement
Nintendo clearly didn't expect the bluff to get called

>>724599860
Being easily bypassed does not make them any less retarded on principle.

>>724600242
He has a new Sony brand smellovision monitor, and he can smell the cow dung and urine in your posts.

>>724595173
I glanced at your wife's crotch while she was fishing for me today. I'm sorry.

>>724600381
Then we both don't know

>>724600373
https://www.j-platpat.inpit.go.jp/p0200

>>724600535
Sorry
https://www.j-platpat.inpit.go.jp/c1801/PU/JP-2023-103273/11/ja

>>724600427
It's actually the entire reason patent lawsuits are easily avoidable, why patents foster innovation, and why pocketpair is absolutly fucked if they're STILL in trial over it months later.

>>724599860
>>724600635
Clueless retard.

>>724588550
>and Pokémon Go
Undone by their own greed.

>>724582340
nope

>>724600710
Sure.

>>724600412
This is Nintendo's bread and butter, they actually GAIN patents this way because defendants inevitably concede in settlements just to make it all stop. Patents can be as vague as like, 'When monsters are placed into the field, there are sparkles." and then you have to fight years long legal battles over it

>>724589964
Based educator.

>>724590397
Based common senser. Unfortunately, the law doesn't work that way.

>>724589964
And they should not be able to do that because their empire was built on copying how others did things and now they're trying to pull the ladder behind them

>>724598047
Although I don't doubt you're right about the outcome, I also don't doubt Ninty will revise their proposed patents AT LEAST a dozen more times. All they need is for one thing to stick and they can milk it for all it's worth.

>>724600863
Settling does not cause precedence to be set, what you just said is complete nonsense

>>724600613
I don't read japanese and I can't find a single source detailing what exactly this patent is covering

>>724580051 (OP)
no no no no no fuck no i cant this i cant fuck

>>724580051 (OP)
>nintendo lost in its' own home court
Isn't this shit equivalent to Disney losing in the USA?

How are the nintendo adults taking this?

>>724600863
>Patents can be as vague
No, patents have to be hyper specific. They're literal step by step instructions like a cook book.

>>724601108
>I don't read Japanese, don't know how to find easily found information, don't know how to google translate, have zero clue what any of these parents actually say, but let me tell you about the intricacies of the Japanese patent system and how Nintendo is using it ethically to further the industry

>>724601224
There are only a handful of logical ways to approach any game design problem, are you claiming only the first 3-4 companies that get to them should get to own them?

>>724600981
See >>724598895

>>724591513
Palworld is a Japanese game

>>724601236
Feel free to teach me what that patent is covering if you know.

>>724582340
No one sides with Nintenjeets like you in this case

>>724601159
I can tell you can't fuck, since you care about this so much

>>724601290
>99% of a patent can be concepts someone else invented and usually are
I feel like you don't realize what a contradiction this is, and according to this logic Palworld didn't infringe on any Nintendo patents because they're not 100% identical

>>724601281
>There are only a handful of logical ways to approach any game design problem
Doubt it. You can keep adding and adding and tweekign any step of the patent to make it unique to you.

>>724599860
Man is this was true then patent trolls wouldn't exist. It's cheaper to pay the license fee then to battle it out in court.

>>724601527
You can't, you have no idea how game design works

>>724601515
Pocketpair has already conceded patent infringement and changed their games accordingly.

>>724601357
Exactly what it says on the tin my dude
>Object moves in space
>Player stands on it
>Player moves with the object
I'm glad this is assuredly not a completely frivolous patent covering universal ideas that have existed long before it

>>724601693
Which according to you they should not have done because they're not infringing on Nintendo patents

>>724582340
Is there any reason why you're this distraught and surprised that Palworld, a popular video game 1M players at one point, have some supporters?

>>724601642
It's all true and patent trolls exist so your argument must be a false if/then statement.

>>724599860
>they are easily bypassed
this underage nintendie is embarrassing. they are not "easily bypassed" and that has nothing to do with the attempt of patent trolling by nintendo and others.

companies avoid getting anywhere near these patents to avoid costly legal battles. and this is exactly the effect nintendo is trying to achieve. they are abusive patent trolls trying to destroy the little guy more than anyone else because the fear of having to spend millions on legal battles is enough to scare anyone away from even coming close to infringing on the patent.

no one thinks youre arguing in good faith anyway, youre just a nintendo fanboy defending a corporation for free because you are mentally ill and tie your identity to nintendo.

>>724601769
Pocketpair is obviously infringing on patents and has already redesigned their games because of that. I never said they weren't. Stop your silly twisted logical leaps.

>>724592330
I DON'T care about ARK.
I DO care about having autistic minmax factories with Pals in them.

The style of the game's characters is why I play Palworld.

>>724601912
They're obviously not according to your definition of "99% can be copied"

What I'm taking from all this is that devs will have to be constantly reinventing the wheel from now on all because Nintendo would rather throw its weight around in the courts than tell GF to improve their fuckass games.

>>724601781
What do they have to be distraught over anyway? Say the worst comes to worst, the next Pokémon games will not only not flop but they have a better chance at being actually decent and even IF they flop, the IP won't go under as one flop will be nothing more than minor turbulence with how obscenely wealthy Game Freak is. Ironically enough, pokecultists are the side that truly has no skin in the game besides living vicariously through Game Freak's financial and emotional wellbeing to compensate for their own inadequacies.

>>724601739
Did you read claims 1 through 28?

>>724601906
>they are not "easily bypassed"
They are in fact "easily bypassed"
>they are abusive patent trolls
No they aren't. They use the patents they create. Sorry about your false worldview. You weren't able to convince me.

>>724601975
99% of a patented process can be copied and palworld changed how their game was designed due to patent infringement. Both are true statements. I have no clue what your hangup is right now but you're not fooling me.

>>724601739
I can't wait for nintendo to use their patented ideas to bludgeon indies that aren't affluent like pocketpair into bankruptcy

>>724602164
Well they didn't copy Nintendo 100% so they're in the clear according to you

>>724602232
I too am also silly as seen by how silly I am acting

>>724581564
chat is this real?

>>724602289
They copied Nintendo 100% and that's why they changed the way their game was designed. They are not in the clear according to me.

>>724602042
Yeah it's just lawyerspeak defining what everything means to be moving and not moving

>>724602471
how patents work is that Nintendo isn't "patenting riding on platforms", it is a 28 step process, each of the steps required to be true, and if any of the steps are avoided, or added to, or changed, anyone else can do it. Nintendo only owns exactly what is shown, and nothing else, and anyone can easily own nearly exactly this same process, if they only change one step in the process or add to it.

>>724582340
>Is anyone even side with
Not bad

>>724602748
>Just completely ignoring what I'm saying about what those steps say
Alright anon we get it you're a bot you don't have to rub it in

When all this drama blows over, what will you people have left to fight over?

>>724581564
Why do they bob their heads like that when they walk?

>>724602886
Sure.

>>724582340
Masterclass bait, holy fuck, I actually wrote a whole big paragraph calling you a nigger in many different ways before it dawned on me.

>>724603162
It's amazing how many of you retards always fall for it.

>>724602748
Sure.

>>724582340
In general the only people left caring are the ones who are doing so specifically because they hate Nintendo.

>>724602928
Birds have extremely limited eye movement which is why they move their heads a lot. What chickens do is basically move their head forward to create motion to help them see better then step forward to "catch up" to their head then repeat the process. Birds see better with quick movement.

Newton status?

>>724603625
NINTENDO INVENTED MOVING PLATFORMS

>>724602917
At most, people would just keep throwing shade at gamefreak's trash.
Next pokemon game comes out, it looks like shit, comments section's going to be all "hue, looks worse than palworld" or "is this why you tried to sue palworld" or any kind of disgruntled comment from people who i will argue to death are not actual palworld players, just shit stirring fags any time a pokemon game made by gamefreak looks like shit.

>>724582340
yes
death to patents, especially retroactive ones

Nintendo invented inventing.

>>724580051 (OP)
>"Lacked an inventive step"
Turns out nintendo and gamefreak are also hacks and calling Palworld a ripoff was just projection. Many such cases. Sad!

These threads are so pointless. Not a single person in these threads is a patent lawyer in Japan, who might know what they're talking about.

Palsissies crying and seething at based patentGODS

>>724580051 (OP)
You know pokemon will die if they can't win this lawsuit right? Have you seen their games lately? They. Can't. Compete.

just let them have this.

Reminder everyone seething in this thread is a paid jeet spammer from the famitsu sales threads. A literal marketing thread is allowed on this board.

>>724582340
good morning saar

>>724604772
This but jeet palbronies. One of them is a massively butthurt mod as well. Probably a tranny even.

>>724601951
Kek, look at her go!

>>724604638
The only thing that could die is the integrity of pokemon games, but you got to have a CTE in your brain if you think Pokemon can die off this lawsuit when they still have the nuke button that is nostalgia pandering. The fact a short animated episode of a random NPC with a loving gardevoir managed to get more views than LZA's trailer says enough where Pokefag priorities lie.

>>724601951
lmao.

>>724604638
They'll survive.

>>724580051 (OP)
>lacked an inventive step
lol

>ARK
winning patent disputes
mogging palworld in sales
better gameplay

>pokemon
winning patent disputes
mogging palworld in sales
better gameplay

>shitworld
losing, crying, seething

>>724605850
>>pokemon
>better gameplay

724605850
No (You) for you troll.

>>724606115
Getting my (You) back anyway and there's nothing you can do about it
>>724605850

>>724580051 (OP)
this is like, ninjeet genocide

can't wait for roco kingdom to release and send all the nintards into suicide watch

>>724606816
Exhibit A how you literally only care because you hate Nintendo.

>>724592147
i like how tendie troons are some of the most raped kikeslave goycattle people in the gaming industry, to the point they would probably burn if they ever said a genuinely positive thing about any game that isn't made by nintendo, so they force out really shitty weird copes like these instead

hey you dirty snoy dalits, nintendo and india brahmin invents zero, show some fucker respects you onlyfans whore mother son

Look at her go!

>>724607389
Hug da spooder

>>724607114
This but palsnoys

>>724607501
Poor girl doing her best carrying me in the water

Do poketroons really?

Games are a product of labour, IP is a protection of entrenched wealth.
Trade embargoes are unbelievably gay, imagine if every county tried to corner studios by obstructing international releases.

Palworld didn't steal a single pokemon asset, didn't steal the product of any pokemon devs labour.
The ones crying are the creative team who feel their at style was stolen. But news flash, art style isn't a product, not a real thing, not an invention, just a trend.

Pokemon set a trend but stopped producing products. Palworld didn't set a trend, but developed an actual game.

Did roblox steal mojang IP? No, they joined the trend of open world grid build games. Mojang didn't steal tetris IP either for the same reason.

>>724607679
Lol I hope you give her lots of attention and pets, she looks almost distraught

>>724607589
>no u

>>724607832
Man i seen a nigger just the other day wearing stiped tights, a skirt like a bitch and pokemon ears. Poketroon is real.

In the day we had red and a kid would show everyone his shinies not his twink ass. Pokemon is all fucked to now.

>>724607810
nintendo's fanbases are filled with shitskins and troons for some reason
explains why they are such rabid bootlickers with no standards

>>724607864
>>724607114
You are crying like a little bitch.

>>724587227
i'm a retard but what you're saying:
>can't patent game mechanic
>have to make your own implementation but can't function the same way
it feels like the nemesis system would be fairly trivial to bypass creatively, no?

palworld won

>>724580051 (OP)
Does this mean throwing pals out will be readded or is that gonna stay gone?

>>724580051 (OP)
based

>>724582340
>ESL writing
>Third world opinion
Opinion discarded, ez

>>724581564
Why?

>>724580051 (OP)
Litigation attorney sisters, our response?!

>>724580051 (OP)
Frankly, I don't doubt the nintendo lawyers will try to file new patents to keep the case going and pull every string available to drag the procedure in an attempt to bankrupt pocket pair in legal fees.
Big corpos like to pull this move when they know they can't win through legal arguments.

female cattiva brat

female floppy brat

>>724581050
That one makes no sense square had multiple games where you ride monsters before pokemon existed and there are probably games that did it before them

>>724581564
No no no this doesn’t add up at all

female cloud brat

>>724586982
They have a patent on that algorithm.
similar to what anon says >>724587227
The idea of the nemesis system is still open season. It's just really, really hard and expensive to do without the previous implementation.

But, I want to point out, there is some precedent for software that allows for patents of software behavior, such as "scroll bouncing" an infamous case of which Apple sued Google's Android for allowing their scrollViews / TableViews / linear layouts to "bounce" at the bottom.

>>724611265
Patents are so fucking stupid how do you make anything without reading every single patent?

>>724608068
you'll survive, shitskin pajeetendie

>>724582340
>phonenigger
>ESL
>Frog
Why do you niggers reply to obvious bait?

>>724607114
>some of the most raped kikeslave goycattle
lmao

>>724611505
Aww poor widdle baby had to take and hour off to wipe his tears. What other threads did you retreat to and endlessly shipost in, because that's all you're good for in life

>>724582340
Ranjesh...

why do indians like nintendo?

>>724580051 (OP)
dirty dirty dalit snoys playing a very bad game against great nintendo and indias
we will not be forgetting, we take revenge

>>724614269
one of the main nintendo franchises is a man named saario chasing either a blonde white woman or a lizard named bowsaar

are nintards just pretending to be butthurt or do they genuinely believe nintendo should own mechanics for videogames (even if it's the "specific" way of implementing them)?

>>724614269
cheapest hardware in the market

>dude, just try ARK, it's really fun
>350 gb
Nah.

Why do autistic NEETs hate Nintendo?

>>724614530
>why do people who consume more video games per capita than anybody else hate the biggest slop producers in the industry?
It is a mystery.

>>724614502
Fits on my SSD

>>724614657
>NEETs
>playing games an not endlessly consuming and spreading propaganda on social media
Streamers play more games than you and they're all normies.

>>724614761
Nintendo will still lose lol

>>724614530
I don't care about nintendo is a company and it's expected that they are greedy jew
But theirs fans holy shit
at least sonic fans are self aware

>>724614845
Nah lol
>>724614869
I play more games tham you too, jeetneet

>>724614917
>ESL writing
The only jeet here is you, jeetkun consooooomer

>>724614869
>nintendo cultists are so fucking stupid, they'll gladly fork over 80 to 100 dollar for 5$ worth of cardboard.

>>724581564
Wtf is this real

>>724618432
stop replying to obvious xjeets
just take a look at the other thread and search the filenames through the archive to see who's really behind the shitty consolewars

>>724602748
they can sue you on any of the 28 claims

TOTAL
TENDIE
DESTRUCTION

>>724620335
and lose all 28 of them.

>>724581564
this vexes me

>>724580051 (OP)
>Gamefray
Might as well post your "I hate Nintendo" fanfic.

>Denied
2 Claims of the whole patent were denied cause if Prior Art and Nintendo can amend and re-submit.

This is as much as win as 1st down down in football

EVERY single discussion of how patent works is fucking living example of Dunning–Kruger effect, With every living at top of Mount Stupid

Palworld won

>>724582340
It's funny how people like to jerk off to Colosseum or Gale of Darkness but do everything possible to make GF not do that kind of stuff anymore

>>724580051 (OP)
Good. Now I want the new Japanese PM to fuckin' ARREST Shuntaro "EUfagJew" Furukawa, the fuckin' (((lawyers))) and (((shareholders))) already, they're the cancer slowly killing Nintendo.

>>724581564
I cannot comprehend this…why the fuck is it doing that?

>>724592147
Okay. The game is good because I can capture a wide variety of critters and put them n my base as workers. I get to actually live and work with hem which makes the experience of being a monster tamer feel more authentic. This adds to the experience of exploration as it makes me want to find more of them in the world.

>>724592330
>they would have played ARK
No, I fucking wouldn't have.

>>724602353
According to your definition, they didn't copy it 100%, shouldn't have been sued, and didn't need to change their game's design though

>>724581564
For what reason?

Halloween animation just dropped. It's oozing with soul. https://youtu.be/pOmuUxs8QmE?si=Kpm8I-HZVipZEaxt

>>724592147
>ironic tweeter weebs (trannies) opinions

>>724582340
Literally everyone that doesn't enjoy eating shit unironically? Dumb frogposter.

nintendo lost

>>724607679
mine is alpha so it doesnt look as bad as pic lol

Eric won

>be highest grossing franchise
>get RAPED by some indie slop game from some obscure company no one heard of before
kek
>>724592147
lol this troon botted the likes on his post
it's nearly 100k now
do nintards really?

>>724592330
Fuck I tried ARK a couple times but it just didn't click man.
I don't generally like these survival crafters, but I'm able to play Palworld just fine.
Granted, I barely engage with the survival mechanics since food is so easy to get, I mostly walk around the map killing and capturing shit.
I specially enjoy trying to capture all of the humans.
Maybe I should give ARK another try.

>>724580051 (OP)
KWAB

>>724592147
>that entire post
But Palworld has nothing to do with ai and if Palworld is abysmal dogshit what does that make pokemon games for 15 years now?

>>724580051 (OP)
>can't throw balls to summon pals
>can't glide pals
until those are restored Nintendo won

>>724632316
It's happening.

>>724581564
MOOOOOOODS! THE WEBM IS TOO CUTE

>>724632094
it's a troon seething about a non-ninpedo game with botted likes
don't think too much over it

100.000.000.000 dollar franchise.

>>724598047
I mean you are unironically simping for Snoy as we speak. Also I’m just stating facts. N already has tons of similar patents, celebrating one failed patent application as a big win is laughable.

>>724591525
Pretty sure that applies universally. No one cares about poorfags until they need to squeeze them for taxes and votes.

>>724594614
>with a playable bladewolf
that was OG Revengance, the bladewolf dlc.

>>724633772
More.
More playable Bladewolf.

>>724598110
>>724598259
except no, that's not how it works samefag-kun
if anything looking up patents makes you more liable to get sued, because why would you do that unless you wanna copy shit

>>724582340
GOOD MORNING SAAAAR!!!

>>724633862
oh right, carry on then, my bad anon.

>>724633885
t. retarded nintendie

Why doesn't Miyamoto go back to his idea of patenting jumping? It's in line with Nintendo's philosophy.

Nintendo will just hire some thugs to beat up the devs