Thread 724595959

Video game piracy is on the rise in 2025 and now its 100% socially acceptable to pretty much all zoomers.

It makes sense, the people who usually play video games are either from north america or some other country with access to enough funds to buy a gaming PC. But games are just too expensive. You can ask someone to build a $600 1080p gaming PC thats really good, sure, but ask them to buy $1000+ worth of steam games and its too much.

If the average game costs $25 on steam. That's only 40 games for $1000 which you don't own. But most people don't have $1000 they have maybe $100 or $200 to spare if that and that needs to be spent on food.

Zoomers and gen alpha are bringing piracy to new heights because we cant afford homes or food.

>>724595959 (OP)
when exactly has piracy not been socially acceptable among young people

cool essay but save it for your game journalism page not here

>>724595959 (OP)
lol

>>724596092
I feel like nintendo fans between wii and wii u eras acted holier than though. It was easy to hack that shit and they kept screaming about nintendo needing your support, and even some retards saying how retro emulation was immoral with the newly introduced virtual console.
I bet playstation/xbox fanboys would also be judgmental though, if their systems were easily hackable.

I stopped paying for games the moment they became digital.

Its great how in america we saw the old generations go from

>selfish thieves from the boomers and gen X motivated by greed but still motivated by propaganda to
>millenial neoliberals hipsters that pretend they actually care about the world and eat up propaganda to
>selfish zoomers who are motivated by poverty and the modern problems that this society isnt actually worth working for so nobody gives a shit about the law anymore or what old fags say. if it isn't enforceable to zoomers its not a law like piracy.

Most zoomers dont even pay for their own food they just leech and steal off their genX parents(like me) BASED. Fuck society we all hope it burns, sincerely zoomers and gen alpha.

Silent Generation is Lawful evil
Boomers are chaotic evil
GenX are chaotic neutral
Millenials are true neutral
Zoomers are chaotic good

>>724595959 (OP)
>brownoid got 173 updoots and then deleted his post out of brokie shame
Wow, real compelling evidence

This is just virtue signaling.

Pirate, don't pirate, who cares. But you don't need to write a book about why it's moral and cool when you do it.

>>724595959 (OP)
>1 post on reddit
>PIRACY IS BACK

really?

>>724596936
Its popular these days and reddit is the most echo chambered platform with normies. It has over 1 million followers and posts regularly get 10-20k likes.

Pirating is mainstream now and viewed as GOOD.
The consensus that modern sheep have nowadays is if you defend big corporations and don't like piracy then you're bad.

Maybe if xbox released physical 1.0 bluray copies and marketed their games like that they'd still have a customer base.
Maybe if copyright didn't exist people would pay for games if they owned the files with an installer that steam provides.

No instead its all DRM slop and digital online that no one wants, big corpo shit.

>>724597164
Why did you post something that got deleted and got sub 200 likes then? Are you fucking stupid? Is that your reddit account?

>>724596547
You need to be 18 to post on here, alignmentard

>>724596218
I wonder, if Steam could be emulated and you could get a 100% pirated version of any game on it, would Valvefags be defensive about it? They worship Steam as much as any console zealot does, but Piracy is pretty well accepted among PCgamers.

>>724597369
But its true doe, most zoomers don't give a shit about modern society or its future while most boomers are the ones holding on fighting for it(and failing).

The country just watched a man get assassinated live with gore and blood exposure to tens of millions of people and you say we live in a normal and stable society?

>>724595959 (OP)
Piracy went through a weird growing pain of entering what is essentially mainstream social media. It's always thrived on more niche places like message boards and IRC, but for a couple years you had people on Tiktok or Twitter or Discord just straight up linking to shit or giving you a step-by-step process. Some sites died because of it, and there was a lot of peer pressure not to pirate because it seemed bad and immoral

now we're wrapping back around to people feeling more 'empowered' by piracy, which is better but also bodes poorly for the future, as it likely means a return of the people who pirate but are desperate to have you believe it's for an Understandable Reason, like they're *actually* just running homebrew so they can run Linux on it, or they're *really* just downloading the latest AAA slop for games preservation purposes. and so on.

Whats the point of pirating shitty woke games that can't run on modern specs?

>>724595959 (OP)
>this game is fucking shit, I won't be paying any money for it
>I will however be pirating it because I actually want it and I'll also be spending 50+ hours playing it despite thinking it's shit!

approximately when are cattle going to realise that time is actually a more valuable resource than money? why would I want to waste time playing a game that I don't even think is worth buying?

>>724597568
It is justified and understandable.
Copyright didn't exist for most of human history except the past 250 years, and the US government is the biggest infringer or copyright. Anglos and by association americans which are just british colonists started copyright.

Also if you copy any image online or downloaded a youtube video chances are you have committed copyright infringement. Not that it matters because it can and will never be enforced.

>>724595959 (OP)
Piracy is how any kid under 20 acquires taste, without it they would all be playing shitty f2p gatcha slop and thinking that is the peak of the medium.

>>724597687
Because its free and someone shouldnt have to pay money to only have 2 hours to find out if a game is good

>>724597551
that one weirdo getting got at a funny and ironic time is barely a blip. we've been letting our actual children get slaughtered for many years and it's just the cost you factor into the school budget now

however it has little bearing on people's response to video game piracy

I have no problem with people pirating, I have problem when people try to reason or spin this in a way that it isn't, i.e mental gymnastics.
It's not moral to pirate and you know that very well as your action will move others to do the same and actually is damaging to the industry (you may somehow think about the 'ceo' but not the workers this negatively effects) which hurts you at the end too.
And it's not legal (It's disruptive nature is a reason of that), I think a lot of people online don't know what that actually means because they are likely terminally online and never have seen what happens to people who break the law.
At the end of the day you are doing something only in the self interest at the determinant of others and you need to realize this.

>>724595959 (OP)
>some little Gen A faggot that unironically loves skibidi toilet will be the next big denuvo cracker
Wild

>>724597859
you only need 1 look at a game to see if it's good.
what kind of delusional retard would for example need to try out assassin's creed shadows "to see if it's good"?

>>724595959 (OP)
>Spend millions of dollars and over a decade to release a buggy unfinished game that you cannot physically own
>Ever paying for digital anything

>>724597987
Zoomers are crashing this shit with no survivors

They dont care about morality of money. We've been getting shafted our whole lives. We are living with our parents, we at most have $50 in our bank accounts, we work shitty part time jobs, we have no money and our futures are uncertain to the point of doomerism.

Nobody gives a shit abour morals or stealing. Society doesnt reward us for doing things legally. You just get poorer and poorer and on top of that can't even get a $30/hr full time job that are rarer than shiny pokemon.

>>724595959 (OP)
>[AAA] video game piracy is on the rise
Fuck no it isn't, not in first world countries at least.
Loads of ISPs send you threatening letters if you even so much as think about torrenting a game, and most consumer ISPs have upload speeds measured in text files per minute.
Piracy of games that companies give a fuck about is almost dead in the west, most AAA pirates are in countries where games cost like $500 and consoles cost more than a small house (this is why PS2s still sell in some countries, by the way.)
Doesn't matter though, game devs see the 99999999 seeders and just think "man that sure is a lot of lost sales!"

I mean sure, porn, porn games, mobile games, and indie games get pirated all the time, and anyone with an IQ above 30 knows about Kemono/Coomer because fuck paying the price of a small indie game per month on a sub where the dev just dicks around half the time, or you pay your money that month and the only thing the dev did was a gay M/M minigame, so you can't even enjoy the thing you paid for.
But AAA and AA games? You pirate one of those and you still end up getting a C&D letter in the mail despite using a """private""" VPN.

>>724595959 (OP)
I pay for my games on Steam since I actually own them there unlike on consoles where you rent a license.

>>724595959 (OP)
The only people I have met who have anything against piracy were ones who simply didn't understand that you could pirate that thing and are confused by what I am talking about it and generally defensive because of it.
Legitimately who gives a fuck if you pirate something. Where are these people, I have only seen them online.

>>724598094
pirates who say shit like "umm I only pirate in order to try out games" are just lying retards who are trying to come up with a reason for why what they're doing is actually just and moral. the truth is that pirates more than anyone else want to eat the slop and they want it for free. i have never talked to a pirate who wasn't completely devoid of taste.

>>724597687
The real gamer move is to pirate any game you are interested in and treat it like a demo. Pay for it if you like it or don't and stop playing. I've bought many games after they turned out to be decent after pirating them.

>>724598146
why would I pirate a buggy unfinished game?
if it costs money it's bad, but when it's free it suddenly becomes worth playing despite being buggy and unfinished?

pirate tards really have no standards

>>724598308
Your entire argument falls apart when you actually look at the data and that video game piracy only increases sales. According to literally every study done on it.
so yeah, people really do pirate just to try out games and if they like it, buy it, with more people giving it a go than would otherwise buy it if they were unsure.

>>724598417
Who said I'm pirating modern games?

>>724598225
ISP's can't do shit retard LMAO

Direct download sites are flourishing and have speeds of like 50mb/s and all use gofile, buzzheavier or fuckingfast. There's tons of direct download hosting that are specifcally for copyrighted material.

You can use cloudflare tunnel or some free vpn like proton to pirate 20 games overnight. Cloudflare doesn't report DMCA violation or copyright infringement.

You can buy a 5G hotspot from calyx with unlimited bandwith and get a dynamic IP and torrent to your hearts content.

People are already using VPNs in the US and getting used to them because of the porn site bans.

Oh no, someone pays a total for $5 for mullvad VPN and can pirate 2500 games over the course of a month

>>724598462
>when you actually look at the data and that video game piracy only increases sales
this data does not exist, and it's not quantifiable in the first place

>>724595959 (OP)
I really don't give a fuck if it's socially acceptable or not

>>724598225
It's only in burgerland that your ISP sends you letters for torrenting things I'm afraid to reveal.

>>724595959 (OP)
AAAAAA games requiring(yes, requiring) 6 months to a year of patches before the game is feature complete brought us here

>>724598569
>>when you actually look at the data and that video game piracy only increases sales
>this data does not exist, and it's not quantifiable in the first place
I pirated Minecraft then bought it and then I got cucked by Microsoft so, I am never buying digital again, my dvds for the wii just work.

>>724598569
>uhhhhhh n-no it doesn't actually exist!!!!
yes I am sure the european commissions study on piracy is actually irrelevant
https://netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2017/09/displacement_study.pdf
there are dozens of studies done on piracy, the EU one is for piracy in general showing it doesn't cause any sales to be lost and when looking specifically at video game piracy that sales are increased
but yes surely no data exists when you don't actually go look for it

>>724598569
it's not impossible to quantify, you'd need to just survey people, but no one is going to fund one of those because it's probably very nearly a coinflip in terms of whether piracy helps or hurts a game

>>724598916
>>724598932
>errrm the data is real because there was a study. what do you mean it also matters HOW a study is carried out???

>>724597478
Youre dumb as fuck if you think any PCfag worships steam. We all pirate, and nobody is loyal to a store on PC lol. The concept of steamvegans or whatever the newest buzzword is just consolefags trying to brandwar pc stores of all things.

>>724599049
>I can't actually read or interpret studies so I will just say they don't matter
yeah thanks for letting us know you are retarded.

I accept your concession.

>>724599049
There is another thing it's a study in the EU, what about other countries outside the EU?
Remember different countries in the EU it's looked down apon to pirate so less people do it there.

>>724599115
>"umm according to this here study piracy boosts sales"
>meanwhile all it actually says that there is a correlation between increased piracy and increased sales.
yea but I'm the one who can't read

>>724595959 (OP)
I usually only buy on steep discounts or bundles but I've decided to stop paying for games entirely
so much money wasted on steam simply for achievements and logging hours
how foolish of me

>>724597478
Is this supposed to be sarcasm or you're just unaware?

>>724597987
the only problem I have with people pirating is they cant wait to talk about it and spread where they pirate their stuff

none of you were put on this earth to listen to someone else, if you wanna pirate just do it fuck these people let them rot and when they're rotting make sure to rub it in their faces too.

>>724596092
It might be different nowadays due to all the third worlders on the internet but twenty years ago piracy was driven by bored teenagers who had too much spare time and no money

>>724599195
i think you lost the thread somewhat

anon 1 said that studies not only don't exist but can't exist
anon 2 is showing that these studies do exist and (obviously) can exist

whether any given study is good or bad or relevant is another matter entirely

>>724599305
>>meanwhile all it actually says that there is a correlation between increased piracy and increased sales.
are you hoping people don't click the link or something? it's really easy to see that you're wrong.

what the study actually looked at was willingness to pay and what effect that had on piracy rates in movies, games, TV shows, and music

>>724596218
Lol no. All my friends that played Nintendo shit also had pirated copies of starcraft. Two of them modded their handheld to pirate games.

>>724599350
You can sell your steam account on a third party site or if you really want to be done with it to recoup the money or you can have them delete it entirely. Me personally I sold my steam account, made a new one and I only rebought the games I like to play that are exclusively multiplayer like foxhole or squad.

I mean people have already found open source alternatives to using steam itself that are on par except for the controller profiles steam has but those can be done easily with something like antimicroX for the few games that have no controller support.

>>724599570
absolutely not. piracy has always been the domain of 40yo manchildren who do it for the challenge or because of philosophical reasons

the people who do it for money reasons - mostly teens - are following in their wake and make up a much lower percentage.

>>724595959 (OP)
The main issue with this is why even pirating a game you know runs like dogshit on the best pcs?

What, you're gonna have fun playing at 14 fps with dips?

>>724599718
>for the challenge
do you mean the people who make torrents or the people who download them?

>>724596414
This. You give me nothing, I pay you nothing.

>>724595959 (OP)
wtf bros piracy is reddit now?
Damn it.. *buys Switch 2*

>>724595959 (OP)
>leddit post from a gaming piracy subleddit with 173 updoots
BROS PIRACY IS ON THE UPSWING!

>>724599091
When why did Steamies cry and shart when Epic started their own store, and even now 100% will not miss a single chance to baww about EGS existing?

>>724599350
I would pirate to save money but I no longer trust anything that comes in the form of an executable that I know some disgusting dirty piracy nigger tampered with.

There is 0 honor among thieves

>>724600105
Because Sweeney is raging autistic hypocrite who tries to bring console cancer to PC.

>>724595959 (OP)
Cool OP, how are you enjoying all those Denuvo games?
>inb4 t...they're..a..all...b..bad...

>>724599631
maybe but I cbf trying to price it plus I can still use creamapi for free dlc on the stuff I own which is at least convenient

>>724600151
not having trustworthy sources is a skill issue

>>724600151
But playing gaymes is safe on linux though and most crypto miners and malware is made for windows. That's why flatpak exists to containerize something like heroic games launcher. If you're not on linux pirating games you're doing it wrong.

Also that's a rare chance to get malware since most direct download sites like steamRIP or gog-games have been trusted and tens of thousands of people download their game archives and a lot of them are running windows 10 and are scanning for viruses.

>>724599091
>he really believes this

>>724595959 (OP)
Piracy has always been popular in US though. We're all proud thieves here in America.

>>724596890
This
If it's against the law in your country then it's against the law, keep doing it if you want but you can't morally justify it if that's the case

>>724600292
>Noooo! My monopoly is the right one!! No, please, Gabe, save me!!!

this thread is a perfect example of why retards shouldn’t use a PC and still to consoles

>>724600151
LMAO what a fucking dumb ass

>>724600490
>still to consoles
wait I can make hooch on a console?

>>724600389
t.

>>724595959 (OP)
since when are brazilians and indians considered socially accepted people?

Forget piracy, you couldn't pay me $70 to play Star Wars: Outlaws.

>>724597859
>bro, I'm only 20 hours into the game and 50% complete, how do I know it won't go to shit in the very last hour?
just be honest with yourself and us turdworlder

>>724600616
Well linux is a lot more secure, proton works for 99% of games with zero issues since its just translating not emulation. And DXVK is better performance than direct X. Also the frametimes are smoother on linux.

You also have the added advantage of flatpak and on top of that permissions so basically malware will never infect your main files or PC.

>>724596890
The only people who respond like this are the ones salty that they paid money for something that was clearly not worth it while others downloaded it for free and lost interest without losing money.

>>724600910
yeah but anybody who isn't a nerd doesn't care about any of that

>>724600970
But linux runs games better with higher FPS and more smooth framerates than windows though even with translation API.

Why use windows in the year of our lord 2024+1?

>pirate music
>nobody cares
>pirate a book
>nobody cares
>pirate a movie
>nobody cares
>pirate a game
>"OH MY HECKIN SCIENCE HOW COULD YOU? THINK OF THE DEVELOPERS THAT MADE THE GAME!!! YOU SHOULD BE JAILED YOU GREEDY JEW FUCK!!!!"

>>724601046
normal people don't care as long as they hit their refresh rate
normal people aren't going to install linux for frames they don't need

>>724601112
They will if they want to pirate games safely. Not even steam is 100% safe on windows because they dont scan their games.
So linux with flatpak is still the safest way to play games anywhere pirated or not and proton and linux mint is good now.

Are we just going to forget about pic related so quickly? it just happened not even over a month ago I think.

>>724601304
strange how I pirate all of these things safely on windows
bizarre in fact
god linuxfags are insufferable

>>724596218
Lol the wii u was not "easy to pirate". It took a good while until that happened. It wasn't called the brazillian method for nothing

>>724601413
The chance is low but never 0%, same with steam. My point is steam hosts malware sometimes, pirated games hosts malware sometimes.

Actually steam probably has more of a chance because developers at any time can do a remote update to any indie game and sneak in malware, make it download while you're away.

Pirated games its just one folder and it will never get updates and is usually the latest game version and if you scan it and it is clean along with using a reputable site like steamRIP, gog-games, fitgirl your chances are the same as steam.

shoulda woulda coulda. Me I like to be sure my PC is safe.

>>724596092
When jews astroturfed it to be a scary thing that will give you 10 million virus's if you dare download a game online.

>>724601059
I just hate piratefags because they're obnoxious and won't shut up about it.

>>724600105
Because EGS fucking sucks and timmy tried to force fucking exclusivity on PC

>>724601304
One of the many reason why I love my Deck. Offers peace of mind that if anything does infect it, I just use it for gaming and not something that can do any real damage.

>>724601905
Linux is just more secure. its not impossible to get malware on the deck if playing using the regular launcher because its not sandboxed and has access to your home directory, there could be some linux specific malware, but if you use heroic games launcher flatpak through the steam launcher your chances are basically zero even there was some sort of linux specific crypto miner. Linux crypto miners themselves are very rare and linux malware is even rarer.

Here's what modern windows malware looks like you can't even tell it's running until dig a little deeper but its good to have peace of mind. I just use arch with heroic flatpak and thats good enough for me to know I'm safe.
https://youtu.be/24dfe8q7Aq4

>>724595959 (OP)
Is this digits? I think it should count as digits.
>>724600616
windowsissy recoils from the Arch-chad Linux beast

>>724602053
>willing to use linux but not willing to know enough about to how run a secure windows pc
>sperging out enough to use linux just for gaming

state of current tech users in 2025

>>724602053
this nigga linked an AD to prove his point LMAO

>>724602206
I use linux because its faster and runs games better with higher FPS.

Being more secure and having good sandbox software like flatpak is just a bonus and piece of mind.

>>724595959 (OP)
When they no longer offer a nice quality physical option for collection purposes, and continue to raise prices and stack on more DLC, it’s no wonder why people just pirate.

>>724601614
>did you download this 20 review vietnamese made survival crafting game with ai cover art that nobody's ever heard of?
>well turns out it's malware!! steam isn't safe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! playing video games is dangerous!!!!!!
yea you're the same type of retarded tiktok kid to see a flashing green download button and click it to download btcminer.exe

>>724595959 (OP)
you can see the rise in piracy directly correlating to the rise of blacks in first world countries

>>724602308
LMAO

>>724600308
>he lacks the critical information
some dude popped up out of nowhere and is going through the uncracked denuvo games backlog. he cracked 4 games in the past 2 weeks.

>>724596092
Most of the peers I played games with were convinced police would bust down their door or they'd get a trojan from pirating, the rest were moralfaggots who didn't want to steal from devs even if that developer was a AAA company and the game over a decade old
t. zoomer in his 20s

>>724596218
>I feel like nintendo fans between wii and wii u eras acted holier than though
You mean the era where they were pirating left end right?

>>724602327
Xbox had it good. All they had to do was just keep their entire library physical, make deals with indies to fund their physical game releases en masse which some did like outer wilds for the switch and ps4 but they didnt do an xbox version or stardew valley in a physical game case which they did for the xbox one.
Instead for the series X they just ditched their entire physical game collection, stopped making disc drive version, went all in on gamepass and now its failing spectacularly.
Steam is to blame for all this, they pushed the world for digital and it STILL isn't better than physical.

Most PC home internet connections are 50mb/s or slower in north america. A bluray disc with a compressed version of the game will still unpack and install faster than downloading it from zero and you own it. But let's be honest consoles were always shit, you can't adjust the graphics settings like you can on PC, but as a business strategy xbox is failing hard right now.

I pirate my vidya because I'm tired of spending my money on a good game, snd then the studio turns around snd makes a woke sequel.
I shant be funding that anymore