Thread 724626021

radahn(forma de consort) was honestly a really fun boss
i only wish he had some attacks for jumping and ducking under

>>724626021 (OP)
>literally had to google how to dodge half of it's shit
>npcs who would have been cool to beat him with are deadweight so had to drop them
>second phase blocks vision
>isn't even fun conceptually or thematically
>zero leeway for different builds to prove themselves
Every time i think Fromsfoft can't make a worse boss. Every time they do.

respec-to-greatshield-build coded boss

>>724626021 (OP)
The new deflect mechanic was the best part of the whole dlc, I don't think there was a single fight that I disliked after getting the item for it. I'm convinced that anyone complaining about any of the boss fights just didn't use it despite the entire dlc being balanced around it.

>>724626021 (OP)
>attacks for jumping
Every single knee stomp.

>>724626149
>zero leeway for different builds to prove themselves
FALSE
STR build can stagger him with charge attacks
DEX build can rot/frost/poison/bleed him
INT/FTH builds have lots of easy to cast spells that can demolish him /like rock sling and knight's lightning spear)

>>724626463
He does that once every blue moon and it actually still sucks up close because you dont iframe it and the shockwaves are tall so youre much better off rolling to attack him in between

>>724626646
No it's easy to consistently jump R1 with straight sword.

>>724626509
anon op builds created using wiki don't count as normal player builds. Anything slightly off meta can't do any of that shit. Esp non mimnaxed int/fth who do less damage with spells than with melee.

>>724626842
>i didnt invest into anything good for the whole game therefore everything good is meta and googled
ur a dummy!! no way you spent the whole game without getting some cool powerful gear and ashes

>>724626842
>go through the whole game as int/fth while failing to get some actually powerful spells
why not respec at that point and leave that for when you figure something out

>>724626842
nigga a basic bitch str build can kill him

>>724627037
>basic bitch str build
>look inside
>two colossals
>mw me with one greatsword cosplaying artorias

>>724627134
artorias was a poser and a failure, now i see why you cosplay him

>>724627134
>cosplaying artorias
cant you get an op flip or ash like lion's claw? or some strong ash for it + good defense?
its kinda fucked up to play lategame elden ring as just a "john dark souls guy" because its much more rpg. youre supposed to get more powerful too, if the enemies didnt also scale themselves up the game would get boring
one small exception: i unironically think margit has a much stronger moveset than almost all the main game bosses

>>724627228
so is elden ring a game where you pick up any weapon and level to max and roll or is it the game where you mathematically make the peakest build cause otherwise game is too hard? Cause when I beat him it was considered the first one.

>>724627636
Of course people who struggle against bosses will whine that the game is "too rpg". But if you bother to parry and guard counter you can dunk on the whole game RL1 with longsword and heater shield without extraordinary amounts of memorization, skill or cheese.

It was a really fun boss and they ruined it for retarded niggers

>>724626509
>DEX build can rot/frost/poison/bleed him
Why do people keep acting like status effects have anything to do with DEX

>>724626021 (OP)
this was one of the better dlc bosses for sure along with the plant thing

>>724627824
Just parry and riposte the boss 493 times in a row without failure a single time bro, it's literally that easy!

>>724627937
yeah it's ARC stuff but it's primarily used by DEX users

>>724628024
Yes actually. Elden ring is slower and easier than quite a number of old action games.

>>724626509
>rock sling
>against radownies
You have no fucking idea what you're talking about

Reminder you did NOT beat him unless you multiplied his HP by summoning Ansbach and Thiollier

>>724628206
lo git gud

>>724627636
you pick up a weapon with a strong ash or some powerful spells and anything that makes you feel like your defense is good, with matching talismans
no need for math autism

>>724628017
i melted the plant because i had a fire build

>he starts doing his charge up blast at phase 2
>i hit him with 2 scarlet rot pots
>half of phase 2 hp gone
i beat the game

>>724626021 (OP)
The most fun thing about him was the pre launch fanboy denial about him

>>724629021
i did make an entire folder of people saying its fake but im phonefagging right now

>>724629021
That's because he genuinely looks cheap as fuck. Compare Gael's insane animations with him.

>>724629126
I remember the very first leak thread with the video. I love autistic fanfiction canons being btfo'd when devs just want to make cool anime fight scenes.

>>724629021
>NOOO MUH MIQI-CHAN CAN'T BE EVIL HE'S A JESUS FIGURE BECAUSE JAPANESE DEVS ARE WELL KNOWN FOR THOSE OKAY
it was glorious

I wish we got an actual ending after beating him, felt really hollow just getting a short cutscene with loli Miquella that doesn't reveal any new info and then that's it, game's over

>>724626021 (OP)
>Forma de consort

>>724629609
Not like any dark souls dlc changed endings either

>>724629306
>>724629021
Literally Nightreign's Heolstor is the ideal Gael-like boss the dlc could have had. I liked all the rest though so Im still happy with it.

>>724626021 (OP)
it's alright now after the nerf.
did not enjoy it before

>>724630223
Heliostor's animations are also cheap as fuck, he just roller skates around the arena.

>>724630407
did he really jump like that or is it ai

>>724630694
no idea.
i save funny monkey videos without closer scrutiny

>>724629306
the difference
>slave knight gael
almost every attack is countered by "roll forward"
his phase 1 multihit combo only frame traps if you roll forward too late against the first
pure style over substance where hes very flashy and pretty except his moveset is easier to dodge and defend from (then attack in between) than index gundyr
starts with a kino OST but then becomes generic forgettable slop for most of the second phase

>radahn
phase 2 requires you to roll in good directions and keep track of light beams
something like deflecting hardtear actually needs to pay attention to his light beams
many attacks that are about doing something other than just pressing roll at the right time
much harder to attack in between his moves except you have stance breaks and cooler skills/spells/ashes
parrying works
starts with a kino OST but then the second phase is mostly a nothingburger with a cool melody showing up sometimes WHY THE FUCK DOES FROMSOFT KEEP DOING THIS

tldr: radahn mogs anything in stale souls 3

>>724626021 (OP)
SOTE is when I stopped giving a shit about From's "storytelling". It was such a letdown, honestly. But after this I had no problems playing Nightreign, because ER lore is a mess.

>>724626021 (OP)
>i only wish he had some attacks for jumping and ducking under
But that's precisely why he's not a good boss. He plays exactly like a DS3 boss on steroids, you roll roll roll and then R1 and it's not a skill issue because on a melee build you can't do anything else even if you wanted to.

>>724626509
The only magic builds that are good against Radahn that a normal noob would be capable of using are Carian Slicer/Catch Flame pseudo-melee builds, or Malenia's Rune+Zamor Ice Storm tank builds.
Yeah, you can find Youtube geniuses doing other stuff, but for the average slow twitch normalfag, they're not doing that, ever.

>>724631505
the difference is that gael is cool looking and fun to fight against while radownies is ugly and reuses pontiff combo

>>724631505
>almost every attack is countered by "roll forward"
Are you high? That's Radahn in a nutshell. All you do is hump his right leg and roll forward, that's literally the most optimal strategy to fight him.

>>724626842
>zero leeway for different builds to prove themselves
>uh, what about these?
>UH NO THOSE DON'T COUNT
Elden Ring discourse in a nutshell. Just one perpetual goalpost moving.

>>724631941
Wait until the autist posts his usual "i managed to avoid one radahn attack through Pure Spacing after getting buttfucked for 40 hours" webm

>>724631876
gael sucks, that dlc is carried by demon prince and midir

>>724626509
From my attempts at launch knights lightning spear very slight slower cast speed was actually a problem in the fight, regular lightning spear or black flame were much better to work with. Also Rot is a thing FTH has access to as well.

>>724631941
>his ash of war multihit slash
>his meteor and phantom slash
>having to find a way to evade his nuke explosion after he floats up without spending time running away which makes you miss out on damage
>some melee combos that practically require backstep into roll or rolling backwards then forward (not sure if still applies post nerf)
im sure you cant simply do the same roll against thosw

>>724626423
I beat it way back and what the fuck is a deflect mechanic.

>>724632629
You have a pretty good shot at beating Gael on your first try which makes him a perfect final boss.

>>724634716
deflecting hardtear, it's amazing
don't make the mistake of using it with a shield by the way, it is by far the strongest if you're using a colossal weapon/sword and get good at perfect deflects

>>724634119
Well, first, "almost every attack" still applies. There are some exceptions, like when he flies or the nuke.
>>his ash of war multihit slash
Roll forward on every attack
>>some melee combos that practically require backstep into roll or rolling backwards then forward (not sure if still applies post nerf)
That was never the case. Every single melee combo is countered by rolling forward into his right leg. Before the nerf it was even worse, since his cross slash could only be avoided if you roll into his right leg, ducking his second slash, otherwise you were hit during recovery frames.