Thread 724663517

why UE5 looks so unappealing

>>724663517 (OP)
Dishonest rendering

>>724663517 (OP)
It doesn't you're just a fag with autism. Studies have proven people with autism demand cartoony or anime graphics because the over exaggerated expressions allow them to understand what's going on better. Maybe when they find a cure in 10-20 years you can be normal instead of a sperg.

>>724663751

The character model UI thing in the bottom left always reminds me of the wojak edit of the guy who hit his wife in the head with a Switch.

>>724664331

lol

It strives for realism but ends up looking too plastic or off in some other way. Add the copious amounts of post processing, the abysmal performance, and you get the current gaming experience. I will be glad when it's over.

>>724663517 (OP)
>>724663751
Downsampled, dithered 1-bit alpha cutouts and shading, paired with literal Disney color correction and forced TAA.

>>724663517 (OP)
Slop engine that looks good in pictures and rendered cutscenes

works on my machine

Why do you have to force hate stalker 2 so much. It's the best game made in 10 years. No wait. Best game ever.

>>724663517 (OP)
u need to turn on RT and DLSS

>>724667236
No need to force anything. It's utter trash.
Complete embarrassment and an insult towards the OG GSC's masterpieces and people who made this IP huge.

modern games are so blurry and they have all these visual glitches that are very unpleasant to the eye. its a weird feeling replaying older pc titles and seeing every detail crystal clear with perfect anti aliasing that doesnt smear vaseline on your screen. humanity has forgotten how to make games

>>724663517 (OP)
ESL retard

>>724663517 (OP)
This literally looks photorealistic and the only argument UE5 has.
Any picture from stalker 2 is making every UE hater shake in cold sweat, even that quad overdraw twink.

Dont get me wrong, I fucking hate UE5 and brownoids who think that it's the only reasonable choice, but again, THE ONLY SINGLE THING that you can't say about it is that it does look borderline realistic, especially in pictures, and if you say "hur dur this shit look" you just a dick riding retard, simple as.

>>724667531
Уёбывaй

>>724663751
looks great and then you move 5 feet and the game stutters lol

>>724663517 (OP)
Everything is blurry, edgy-dark with monotone colors. Go outside and you'll see that real life is way more colorful.

>>724667132
this is funny. I tried it on my pc and it didn't do what your video showed. this was done on something like a GPU which was clearly struggling and running at like 10fps

>>724667804
Runs super smooth at all times on my machine.

>>724667597
it looks okay in still images only.

>>724667898
How are you going to get shader comp stutters when you are walking at a snails pace in a circle?

Does the 'flashlight' still look like just some random light glowing around Skif like in bethesda fallouts or is it actually like a flashlight? I mean surely with 15 years of graphics advancements and RTX technology they can make a flashlight that looks at least as good as a 2007 game and not like some stupid retarded shit. Right?

stalker 2 would be good if globohomo didn't bully the russia

>>724667978
>shader comp stutters
That xray engine, retard-kun

>>724667597
People are going all :O

on every UE5 Skyrim "how it's supposed to look" video. Apart from the vast scale of those renders I don't particularly like the way UE5 makes everything look samey with subdued colors (usually a single tone over the whole damn landscape) and very pronounced shadows and a dark feel.

>>724667132
>have 10 fps
>put aftermarket software framegen on 8x
>wowwwwww the game is dogshitttt!!!!!

Stalker is one of the better looking UE5 games if we ignore ghosting
and it doesn't have that white cum smear all over it like most UE5 asset flips do

>>724667898
>>724668053
>Unironically defending Gayma
Fuck off secondary

>>724667857
Post the clip then

>>724668202
I have played stalker before you were born, nigger.
Gamma is Кинo

>>724663517 (OP)
I legit cannot tell if this is stalker 2 or the new borderlands

>>724668158
That's running on native at around 90-110 fps

>>724668347
Clearly 120fps isn't enough to solve this issue with Lumen, you need 240fps minimum!!!

>>724663751
this looks like utter shiet

>>724667132
>>724668347
So the horrible ghosting and spots is framegen? I really do hate that shit in modern games. I remember trying it out in Darktide and it turned the holographic displays into a 70s radar scope whenever you moved.
I understand the idea behind the technology, its so potatoes can run at higher resolution than they're capable of. But it seems like the industry treats it as a "premium" feature? Why would I care if a flagship card has a feature aimed at poverty PCs?

>>724668602
No that's temporal artifacts from ray tracing (Lumen) which cannot be turned off because there is no other fallback system for lighting in Stalker 2. (and many other UE5 games)

>>724663517 (OP)
Colors and lighting are off. This is what happens when you have games made by people who use photos and videos as reference instead of going outside.
The trees and the shadows on the truck are too dark for how bright the sky is, exactly something a phone camera would capture.

>>724667132
h-he's fast !

>>724664331
>>724664395
lmao.. cant unsee it now

>>724668701
>No that's temporal artifacts from ray tracing (Lumen)
I played a lot of UE5 games and never ever seen something THAT bad with that dark ghosting stuff.
I just completely turn off AA completely and play in 4k and zero framegen cancer and voila, all good.

*cracks open a white monster*
SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIP
ahhh RenderWare now that was an engine
they don't make em like that anymore

>we now have gpu accelerated forward rendering using compute shaders
>engines still use deferred rendering with butt ugly post AA
I couldn't imagine wasting money on a 4K monitor just to use it on temporal smeared slop

>>724669052
>I just completely turn off AA completely
Based and jaggies pilled

>>724663517 (OP)
>UE5 hate thread
>ESL text
It's like hot dogs and mustard.

>>724669485
Jaggies can barely be seen at 4k anyway. AA is mostly just useful at much lower resolutions

>>724663517 (OP)
Too blurry

>>724663517 (OP)
engine accessible for soulless jeets
>he thinks ukrainians worked on this
LMAO

>>724663517 (OP)
Why do ESLfags shit up this board so much?

>>724669372
I miss dynamic lighting and harsh stencil shadows

>>724669372
>blaming deffered
Retard. We don't have games set in CSG rooms anymore

>>724663517 (OP)
It only works when there's heavy fog and the whole image is toned down

>>724663517 (OP)
>>724667597
Pretty to look at if you stand still but horrible to play.

>>724668424
your AMD GPU isn't cutting it for lumen

>>724663517 (OP)
>>724663751
Wow, outside. Never seen it before.

>Unironically defending Lumen
Only devs who are exactly the type of people who don't care about optimization and crutch on lumen and DLSS/Frame Gen defends Lumen.
I don't understand why anyone as a consumer would support Devs cutting corners at your expense.

>>724663751
>DX11
You didn't render the scene.

>>724663517 (OP)
The weird dither effect on everything that isn't a brick wall looks muddy and messy. Hunt Showdown has the same problem but at least it doesn't run like shit stop the looking like shit

>>724663517 (OP)
>see that empty field over there?
>you can go there!

What were they thinking?

>>724667132
im playing the oblivion remake right now and you get this a lot with swinging weapons

>>724671090
just like the original. this isnt a bethesda fallout amusement park for kiddies

>>724671209
>im playing the oblivion
I'm sorry.

>>724663517 (OP)
>why UE5 looks so unappealing
Why do 99% of ESLs formulate questions like this?

>>724670614
>CSG
idtech 5+ doesn't use csg but it uses forward rendering and neither does Source 2
Unreal also supports modern forward plus but it doesn't get used as much

>>724671209
Remaster, and it's not as pronounced as that unless
>your settings are retarded
>you're on insanely old hardware
This is on my machine, and while there's ghosting, it's not as obvious as a lot of the webms posted.
https://files.catbox.moe/oq0lbh.mp4

>>724671332
because we have no real respect for your language and freestyle it
you do the other half of the work

>>724671445
But American is the most beautiful language. Jesus spoke it and the Bible was written in it.

>>724671354
Now try forward in a open world game

>>724669052
>I just completely turn off AA completely and play in 4k and zero framegen cancer and voila, all good.
This person does not have a 4k monitor and does not play UE5 games. UE5 games are so dependent on temporal rendering and all its quirks that they look like total garbage without some kind of temporal layer. There are very few exceptions.

>>724663751
Is this SDALGER ANALMEME?

>>724671627
>forward means no LOD
gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8

>>724667898
is this a remake of the first game?

>>724663517 (OP)
Because every game is literally "let's take a 3d scanner and scan every asset of the game", at what point will these subhumans learn to have a modicum of creativity?

>>724674715
to be fair, that's what a lot of pixel art is.

UE and Unity should ONLY be used by low-budget (Indie) developers to make their games. If you are a high budget game, you should not be using UE or Unity and it is not acceptable either unless you are low budget (indie). That is all. Lol.

>ACES color grading
name a greater mistake in 3d graphics

>>724675435
To be fair, that trick doesn't work but yeah thats what it is

>>724663517 (OP)
I would say that UE5 has reached the very beginning edge of being uncanny and thus unappealing for gaming. The lighting doesn't help. It's neither realistic enough, stylized enough, nor cheap enough to justify. It's just lazy and easy.

>>724663517 (OP)
every modern game using it looks identical and as if its all one developer, for starters.
then you have the fact that this piece of shit engine facilitates the mass production of vidya by niggers with zero interest in the hobby.

i'm glad diablo 3 finally ruined my expectations for modern sequels early on. i've saved so much money and frustration compared to all you retards lmao.

>>724668202
>secondary
NTA but I bought SoC on release, yes I own it on CD.
Cope seethe dilate puristtranny

>>724679464
Twilight Princess and SH:0 for me.
The 7th gen and its casual gaming apocalypse were terrifying.

>>724680018
>puristtranny
Not him but there are plenty of fantastic mods. Gayma isn't one of them.

>>724680026
hey TP was alright. at least that had honest to god gameplay and didn't treat you like a total fucking retard constantly, even if it was underwhleming.

>>724680509
>at least that had honest to god gameplay and didn't treat you like a total fucking retard constantly
But it did. Midna is worse backseater than Navi ever was, and the whole game is on literal rails for the first half of the game.

>>724680697
yeah but it also lets you more or less blitz through all that unlike say a modern nintendo game where you are definitely stuck in for like 2-4 hours of tutorial and slow dialog boxes.

>>724675435
brilliant

>>724680910
>unlike say a modern nintendo game
Just because things got EVEN WORSE later on, does not excuse the past sins.
If anything, we Millennials got it so good for the 1990s and early 2000s, that our standards skyrocketed to extraordinary heights. So much so that the iPhone generation clearly does not even understand half of our criticism no more.

>>724681226
hey can't blame me for being a relativist. i agree about the standards though.

>>724680509
>at least that had honest to god gameplay and didn't treat you like a total fucking retard constantly
It was at the same level as OoT, which is to say the "gameplay" was railroaded and it constantly treated you like a retard.

>>724667857
I see this posted everytime a clip gets posted of the shitty UE effects but never any proof.
Because there isnt any.

>>724682729
Nah, TP was way, waaay worse. Literally a bastardized parody of OoT, clearly rushed out without any thought put into it.

TP's easily one of the worst Zeldas out there, where as OoT still remains as THE greatest video game of all time.