Thread 724664495

BWAHAHAHAHA
Sega confirmed the sales
https://x.com/TailsChannel/status/1984361403999043607#m
I THOUGHT ALL THE MANIA FAGS SWORE UP AND DOWN THAT "NOOOOO SUPERSTARS IS GONNA FLOP! IT'S NOT PIXEL ART!"
>Ends up DOUBLING Mania's sales
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Today is a good day for Classic Sonic.

So mania and origins get Plus dlcs and SuperStars doesn't because...?

>>724665582
Compared to Mania Plus, it already has the same amount of content. Compared to Origins Plus, it already has Amy as a playable character.

Also, the game was $60.

>>724665582
They cancelled the Nack DLC fore being too hard.

this shitheap went on sale for like 10 bucks

>>724664495 (OP)
Is this game good? It flew over my radar, but I enjoy Sonic.

>>724666153
>Good
Yes
>Worth $60
Hell no. It's worth $30 max.

still a shit game with tons of problems made by azrest.

>>724666153
Do you like bosses that are drawn out and have instant kill attacks?

>>724666153
>Is this game good?
It's fine. Flawed, but fine.
It has a similar problem to something like Sonic Rush where the bosses can be a slog unless you're playing as a certain character (e.g., Tails or Amy) and/or taking advantage of the emerald powers (which let you cheese hits), and in some cases neither really help. That's pretty much its biggest problem next to the soundtrack quality being inconsistent.

Otherwise it controls how a classic Sonic game should and has some surprisingly decent level design. But I wouldn't pay more than twenty bucks for it at most.

>>724664495 (OP)
superstars>mania
I'd rather just play the original 1-3K rather than mania's versions of their zones with stupid gimmicks tacked on

>>724664495 (OP)
Why are you happy that a mediocre game sold well. This isn't something to celebrate

>>724664495 (OP)
>I THOUGHT ALL THE MANIA FAGS SWORE UP AND DOWN THAT "NOOOOO SUPERSTARS IS GONNA FLOP! IT'S NOT PIXEL ART!"
I don't recall anyone saying this.

Did sonic racing sell so bad they didn’t even put it on the financial report?

>>724668035
It took a month for it to sell a million.

WE LOVE TRIP THE TRIPPER

>>724668035
Which Sonic Racing.
Team Sonic Racing apparently sold over 3 million somehow. I'm guessing due to the physical release bundle Sega eventually did with Mania. Crossworld has sold over a million already.

>>724665582
Superstars doesn't need it

>>724664495 (OP)
>Sonic Dash has 676 million downloads
Why do phonefags count as gamers again?

>>724666153
I think it sucks but people like it

>>724666153
It's ok.
Worth getting for like $20, $30 max.

>>724664495 (OP)
Most of those copies were sold at lower prices. The game probably did OK in the end though as its budget was probably minimal.

>>724668415
Why are you so jealous of them

>>724668441
Oof there's that Mania cope
>I-It got a discount that's why it sold more than Mania

>>724668398
bro that final boss is the most half-assed "we ran out of time" bullshit thrown together thing ever. turning that into a real thing with context would be a start, fixing the bosses in general would be even better.

>>724668035
One million sure isn’t a success

>>724668398
Superstars could have used it to give the devs an additional chance for polish, like what Mania's devs did when the Encore dlc rolled out.
I think some people forget that Mania was kind of buggy and had literally unfinished presentation when it first released, like how certain zones had no transitions compared to others. They also polished up certain animations (like those for Bean, Bark, and Fang's) and adjusted the Metal Sonic boss for pacing purposes, while also making it into a Chaotix reference.

Sonic games deserve to have 10+ million sales per game.

>>724668758
You wish
They want to hit above 10+? They need to put in the effort

>>724666153
The bosses are balanced around the emerald powers. Anyone still harping off this point is a certified mouthbreather. The only one that still irks me is Sand Sanctuary.

If you like cd's exploration aspect, each level features a hidden golden robot to hunt for. This is only for completion/achievement hunting, but I personally enjoyed going for it.

If you play time trial alot, the levels actually are well put together and thought out. But people don't usually play sonic games more than once, and then cry that the games too short. If your that sort of person then avoid this game.

Trip is adorable and my favorite new sonic character in a very long time. Her absence in crossworlds is something I personally feel very deeply, even if they have some internal classic/modern separation quota going on.

If you do go for it, avoid the switch version, I hear it gets rough in the later stages.

I think this game shits on wonder a million times over. If you like wonder (and wonder specifically, I've had no harsh thoughts on 2d mario before this), then avoid this game. Also if you like wonder, you are part of the problem.

My favorite 2d sonics are 1, CD, and Adv 3. So use those to sample how much of my tastes are compatible with yours.

>>724664495 (OP)
I have been thinking of buying it for Switch but held off because Sonic in 2D but not pixelated looks too strange to me. The game also looks too detailed and for a speedy 2D platformer this isn't good.

>>724671809
>[x] be like

>>724666153
If you're desperate for more classic sonic it's fine. It looks ugly, the music is extremely hit and miss and not cohesive at all, and the boss fights are utter dogshit, but the physics are on point and some of the levels are ok.
If you can get it dirt cheap (or free) it's a 6/10 game

Sega called it a failure

>>724671645
Just pirate it

>>724673536
And yet it sold double Mania did hmmmm

I'm still not getting super stars even if it looks like a pretty okay game.
Sega needs to quit this Denuvo shit.

>>724664495 (OP)
SuperTrash is still selling? Lmao this calls for a meme

>>724675276
...at quadruple or more the budget.

>>724667694
Sonic Advance Trilogy anc Rush Duology will always be better

>>724666153
Play these instead

>>724668702
It’s a success for Fire Emblem

>>724667694
Same reason people celebrated Frontiers selling well. They're more concerned with Sonic's reputation than actually getting good games

>>724664495 (OP)
how much did sonic racing crossworlds sell?

>Superstars sold as much as Shadow Generations
>Shadow Generations a million in a month
>CrossWorlds sold a million in a month
We peaked. Frontiers was a fluke.

>>724675950
>Sort of wanted to get crossworlds since no CTR:NF PC
>Fucking $100 for a kart racer and no copies for my friends
>Remote play in steam disabled
It got what it fucking deserved

>>724675950
sxsg did a million in 1 day

>>724678219
I'll concede that Shadow Generations was a highly anticipated game people bought at launch for full price and didn't limping it's way to higher sales from deep price cuts. One of the only modern Sonic games to do it, actually. Probably why they're making a Shadow subfranchise.

>>724675464
Nice cope

>>724677482
>$100
Just buy standard dipshit

>>724679086
You see the issue with that anon is I'm still not paying $70 at a floor for a racing game that I will be able to play with 0 of my friends.

>>724668441
Fucking C O P E mainatroon
Superstars is the white man's game

>>724675541
>Pic related
>The Boxarts
One of these things are not like the others, and its very jarring. I know its portable version of the wii game made to be fast 2D platforming like the others, but its giving Sonic 06 vibes (Iam SA3, but Iam not, in the same way SC isn't a Sonic Advance series game)

>>724664495 (OP)
kekypow

I mean Sega's President said the game was goyslop, not only us.

>>724679870
People didn't buy it on steam because of denuvo ADOIIIIOY

>>724680041
>Sonic stadium
Go back

>>724667514
based and correct

>>724664495 (OP)
Sonic Superstars is everything I asked for in a Sonic game, but nothing at all that I wanted.

I literally wanted a Sonic game akin to the New Super Mario Bros games, with a four player co-op mode, all original levels, 2.5D graphics and Sonic Mania physics. They were able to do all of this, but basically under delivered.

The $60 price tag and releasing a few days before Super Mario Bros Wonder was just retarded and suicidal. You can argue all you want that Super Mario Wonder and several Nintendo games in general aren't worth $60 either, but the difference here is that Nintendo commands people buying their shit no matter what. Sonic does not share that same level of privilege and prestige. It should have been a $30 game, with much better level themes, better music, better gimmicks, an actual co-op that isn't busted and has online co-op, remove the tacked on multiplayer, better graphics that don't look like 2007 Wii graphics and would put Super Mario Wonder to shame. If they had done all of that, and released at a different time, it would have been fondly remembered and sold double.

>>724680760
It had mediocre level design and shit bosses and music

I was always a superstars fan
FUCK YOU for not believing in trip’s game

>>724664495 (OP)
If Sonic Superstars came out on the 3DS it would be worshipped as one of the best modern Sonic games ever made.

>>724680832
I forgot about the bosses. Superstars definitely had terrible bosses that took way too long to beat. It's why every time I play this game, I only play in time attack mode so I don't have to deal with them.

>>724665524
Why did they make Robotnik so hot?

>>724681064
Trip is Zzzzzz

>>724671809
In the past you would commonly see trolls using Mania as an outlet to shit on other sonic games.

Now we have trolls using Superstars as an outlet to shit on Mania.

Mania was the same type of game as Generations but it was made with less budget, yet rapid trolls would try to make you believe that it was the second coming of Jesus.

>>724680139
Dude multiple new outlets reported on it once Shuji Utsumi said that in an interview lol

>>724681764
Coping harder now eh Mania fag

>>724679792
Colors DS is Rush game but only in the sense that it was built off the Rush engine, it doesn’t have Rush in its title so it’s technically not a Rush game

>>724681107
I love posting this mockup whenever Sonic Superstars is brought up because that’s what the fucking game looks like

>>724681064
In a game where there’s no dialogue even with just text and no voice acting it’s hard to appreciate Trip when most of the storytelling is done with badly animated 3D models, Trip should’ve been a modern character from the get-go.

>>724671809
And that's a good thing

>>724673536
The CEO did, but as a company overall they consider it a hit

>>724666153
Its a fine game but not worth the pricetag, wait for a sale

I just came here to say that i love Trip and she should appear in more games

>>724664495 (OP)
i knew this game wasn't a flop because i don't listen to /v/ bots

>>724684175
>finally someone who wears pants
Most Sonic girls wear pants. Although this person unironically used "i'm baby" So I can imagine they're pretty retarded

>>724684054
2014 Sonic Superstars instead of Sonic Boom would've been kino

>>724664495 (OP)
That's quite the recovery but let's not delude ourselves this IP is still in the gutter, look at Sonic Frontiers, not even 5 million and it was considered a major success, I was thinking 12 million units but these sales suck complete ass. Sonic will always languish because the people who work on it have no idea what they are doing on any level.

>>724687714
If you say so random anon, I'll trust you over fucking marketing analysts kek

>>724665524
NO ROBOTNIK PLEASE OHH MYYYY GOOOO----

>>724688243
>trusting market analysts
I predicted extremely accurately the success of the Switch after it was announced when most of the analysts bet against it, these people are at best paid to give their opinions no matter how wrong.
Sonic is doing shit, Kirby is selling circles around him, Luigi is selling circles around him, I wonder if even DK will outsell him, what's left after that, for Nintendo to bring back Starfy and for him to outsell Sonic?

>>724688829
Don't care

>>724688904
Good.

>>724664495 (OP)
You realize Mania sold more than that, right? Like, a LOT more, right?

>>724689163
It didn't
Only about a million. Go look at any sales figure out there and you won't find any above a million. Idgaf about your head canon or your cope and you're a fool to think Sega wouldn't have shouted to the world Mania selling "way more than that!" if it did

>>724666153
It was ok. I played through it once and never touched it again. Mania was way better.

>>724689163
It didn't actually.

mario mogs

>>724665582
Those games didn't have a physical release at launch, Superstars did

>>724688829
>what's left after that
yoshi

Fuck Sega

>>724675950
I think its just the movies. Nothing Sonic Team has done has improved Sonic's reputation its all just the movies.

SEGA have arbitrarily increased the prices of Sonic games not based on quality of the games but due to the movies, you can tell because Sonic x Shadow Generations was desparate attempt to make a game tie into the movie.

I think the next Sonic Movie is going to fumble. The next 3D or 2D Sonic game will be $70 with loads of extra DLC as usual, and it'll sell less than a million in a month.

Trip ate Fang...

>>724694817
>SEGA have arbitrarily increased the prices of Sonic games not based on quality of the games but due to the movies
No, it's cause Nintendo increased the price of their games. That's why GTA6 is gonna cost $150

>>724668702
One million at 90 dollars in a month is okay.
It's sega so it's gonna go on a sale in december.

>>724687714
>4.57 million units isn't a major success.
For Sonic it is, It sold more than Sonic Heroes and Sonic Unleashed
>>724688829
>I predicted the success of a good console that had good launch games despite the analysts i made up saying it would fail.
Don't even bother posting a link of your so called analysts, they're retarded and i'm afraid you aren't any better

>>724696718
>shitnuvo
Just pirate it

>>724698980
You cant

>BTFO by Forces
>Now BTFO by Superstar
Mania is a laughing stock.

Superstar bros we won