Thread 724672975

What are your thoughts on the body of work of best selling writer Alan Wake?

Playing this for the first time. Do I miss out on anything if I'm not switching between the characters constantly? I've been mostly playing as Saga. I just don't like bouncing between characters, I'd rather finish one before continuing with the other.

>>724673103
Only so much as once you've done everything as Alan, you're now stuck with a totally uninteresting character.

>>724673103
Not really. At some point their path will converge and you will have to finish both to continue further but apart from that it's mostly both characters working on their end on what to do. You won't really miss out on anything, it's just the intended narrative to have a change of scenery to break up the tensions and developments. Just like most books structure themselves really.

>>724672975 (OP)
it's not a lake
it's a woke-tion

>>724672975 (OP)
That's a faggy haircut

>>724673337
>you're now stuck with a totally uninteresting character.

Part of the reason why I just wanna stick with her and get it over with. The gameplay and story are nice but Saga is pretty boring herself. She's not even an attractive negress, which is a shame.

>>724673363
Thanks, that's what I figured was going to happen. I'm enjoying AW2 more than I did the original.

>>724673830
It was my goty last year so enjoy. Alans parts were legit kino. Saga was just alright to me.

>>724672975 (OP)
It's true what they say about the fall and the sudden stop at the end.

Despite Remedy's and Sweet Baby Inc's best efforts to rape the game with retarded nigger and faggot shit, Alan Wake 2 is my favorite horror game of the generation.

>>724675215
>favorite horror game of the generation
Jesus you have shit taste, faggot.

>>724675215
>and faggot shit

Is there faggotry? I haven't finished it yet but I haven't come across gay shit yet.

>>724672975 (OP)
New game dungeon baby, let's crank these videos out ross you don't have stop killing games anymore

>>724675978
I hope ross gives us an alternative download option
holy shit is the youtube quality trash

>>724675978
It'd be nice to see both a Thanksgiving and Christmas game dungeon this year. They always puts me in the mood for the holiday season.
Hope he returns to Freeman's Mind too.

I thought it was a pretty good game. Alan Wake's part was pure kino. There are a few parts in Saga's story that were good.. Like when you see Ahti, and when you do the dark ocean summoning.

>>724673830
>She's not even an attractive negress
Melanie Liburd isn't bad actually. But they nerfed her face for the game. Her ass is still good though

>>724677063
>But they nerfed her face for the game.
why is this still a thing?

>>724673103
I finished Saga's side first and found that it was the better part of the game since Wake is basically just walking around in a city square and Bright Falls is really atmospheric and spooky.
Best part hands down was Tim Breaker's DLC with Lake House being a good Control throwback.

>>724677293
Also forgot to mention, you're supposed to play through Wake's segments first since it feels like a fever dream with Saga's segments explaining what Wake is trying to do.

>>724675978
>Compares Alan Wake 1 to Duke Nukem Forever
I figured he wouldn't like it but holy shit lmao

>>724677212
Multiple studies have shown that women will do whatever they can to reduce the attractiveness of other women without even realizing it.

Wake me up when its on a platform I use (Steam)

>>724677469
what do these people do when they're facing any sorta problems irl
like installing a launcher is too much work, but then they're hungry and going to the store is 50 times more effort
do they just die if the phone goes out and they cant order fast food

>>724672975 (OP)
He showed me the champion of light

>>724677642
I will never give remote chewer money, I remember what he did. He deserves his bald, he earned it by being a terrible excuse for a human being.

>>724672975 (OP)
The first game was ok (when I played it in 2010). It got old.
The second game was complete dogshit. Just ASS!

>>724672975 (OP)
I beat the first game the other week and Alan seems to write at a middle school level at best. The game itself is kinda slow to get to the good parts and a lot of the good parts are just Twin Peaks.
How's American Nightmare? I feel like I only ever see people discuss AW 1 or 2, never AN

>>724677730
But did he show you the herald of darkness?

>>724672975 (OP)
so based off Ross vid, alan wake 1 seems ludo kino.
I guess 2 is garbage?

>>724678540
2 Never came out.

>>724678706
>Initial release date: 27 October 2023
Timmy won't let it go. its all he has.

>>724678034
>>724678706
>>724678795
just stop
youre worshipping something you shouldnt

>>724675873
It mogs SH2R, get over it.

>>724677469
It's worth pirating

>>724678540
What makes you think it's kino? I was pretty surprised by just how bad it looked

>>724678846
Competition is good ,except when it is doing even more anti-consumer things.

>>724677459
Not all women. It's the shitty lower status crab women. Cut from the same cloth as the insecure low status men (literal shitters at games) who studies found behaved with the most hostility towards women in online game lobbies. They are both made for each other, shitty little pissant motherfuckers.

>>724672975 (OP)
>rip off of that one fear itself episode

>>724672975 (OP)
He's an overrated hack. Terrible over written prose.

>>724678846
As opposed to you, you're letting Tim Sweeney shit down your throat, and paying him for the privilege.

Extremely Lynchian, 1 is Stephen King worship and 2 is David Lynch worship. Saga sucks and there should have been more enemy variety but I think it's Remedy's best game since Max Payne 2.

>>724678706
me on the right.

>>724675215
I might agree but I think that's just because a lot of them are kinda mediocre now. I really liked the first half but it dragged a lot, especially near the end after the FBC show up. I still haven't done the Final Draft just because I was really tired of playing. But the first few hours were pretty incredible and very scary.

So any games inspired by lynchian kino? jesus the only ones i can name from the top of my head are alan wake and deadly premonition

>>724679216
The Final Draft is cool but there really isn't much to it unless you want to replay it anyway and really want to see the complete ending on your own. There are some new manuscript pages but it's mostly just a slightly extended ending. You could probably just look it up on Youtube.

>>724679424
Mizzurna Falls for the PS1, and then there's a game called Silver Pines that just got announced that's due out next year. There's also this fan game called "Twin Peaks: Into the Night" that unfortunately got cancelled, but there's a demo out there.

>>724677293
Ehh I thought the opposite. Bright Falls isn't bad in Alan Wake 2, but I feel like it was nerfed somewhat atmospherically in comparison to the first game. However I think the way they do the Dark Place in Alan Wake 2 is heavily atmospheric and darkly surreal. Alan's sections sucked me in more than Saga's on balance.

>>724679424
Silent Hill 2 is bit of a Lost Highway re-imagining.

>>724678967
No, it really is all women. One of the studies actually tracked how likely women were to recommend to their friends that they cut their hair short and found that women with long hair are more likely to recommend it than women with short hair.

The most attractive women will do what they can to reduce their competition more than unattractive women will, they just have less competitors due to already being ahead of most other women. Average women do it less, to more other women because they have more competitors.

>>724679742
oh shit i forgot about silent hill, it has that lynchian feel, i actually never played any of the games

>>724679878
>i actually never played any of the games
Neither have most Silent Hill fans

>>724679945
kek

>>724678234
yeah but they seemed to be lost in a never ending night

>>724679742
>Silent Hill 2 is bit of a Lost Highway re-imagining.
What in the fuck are you talking about?

>>724680804
The stories have the same basic premise, and Silent Hill in general has a lot David Lynch influence.

They filtered millions

>>724672975 (OP)
Well for starters, from what I've gathered, he grew up nice and sheltered.

>>724680861
Did they ever post the HQ images from the talk show studio pictures anywhere? I want to save them but I'd rather not do so through photo mode if I can help it.

>>724680860
>The stories have the same basic premise
It has more in common with The Fugitive than it does Silent Hill 2.
>and Silent Hill in general has a lot David Lynch influence
Well, it rips off a lot of western shit. It was just a bunch of Japs plagiarizing a bunch of western horror. But I wouldn't call Silent Hill "Lynchian".

>>724678846
EGS doesn't even support Linux

>>724681303
Nothing supports Linux, it's weird hacky workaround or a translation layer, at best.

>>724681196
The Fugitive? The Harrison Ford movie or something else? What are you talking about here?

>>724678882
>randomly bringing up SH2R
Holy copium.

>>724681468
All three of these involve a dead wife. That's about all they have in common.

>>724681501
That's my second favorite of the generation, it's not random.

>>724672975 (OP)
Alan Wake 1 & 2(and AN) are probably some of my favorite "kinda shitty Xbox 360 era" type games, as I'm a sucker for weird, interesting stories. Gameplay wise they're probably a 6, 7/10 at best. But they're my favorite 7/10 games out there.

>>724681592
Lost Highway and Silent Hill 2 are both about a man enduring psychological torture in a supernatural purgatory due to killing their wife. That's what I mean when I say they have the same basic premise. It's an incredibly common observation, especially Team Silent often lists Lynch as a big inspiration. They aren't exactly the same of course, people often exaggerate the similarities, but they are a lot closer to each other than the Fugitive

I think I find it endearingly campy but the ending of the second game is a bit too up it's own ass

>>724673103
Just switch on every chapter end
and no, you don't miss out
Though you'll need to play the game twice to get the true ending

>>724681930
>Lost Highway and Silent Hill 2 are both about a man enduring psychological torture in a supernatural purgatory due to killing their wife.
That's not what Lost Highway is about.

>>724682124
>Though you'll need to play the game twice to get the true ending
Fuck that I'm gonna look it up on youtube. I like it but not enough for a second play through.

>>724675215
>faggot shit
what you talking about?
Also bringing in Warlin Door (Martin Hatch) which is most likely Saga's father is the reason they made her black

>>724679675
The start and the trailer park is where the game really shines in my opinion. Once you get used to the taken and start running to the next objective, all of the magic just vanishes.
Wake's segments work like a fever dream so it really just becomes that when you think back about it and try to remember it. The best part of the whole game are the parts that include Ahti.

>>724681389
Steam runs on Linux just fine, and has for years. EGS doesn't even try. I remember when Tim Sweeney was freaking about Windows Store and talking about how they were gonna do some Linux shit.

Then he never did shit about it.

>>724672975 (OP)
Alan Wake? The fucking HACK writer? Why don't you read a REAL author like Stephen King?

>>724682319
That's understandable, I only did it again recently after all the DLC released
There's a few differences throughout the game too but nothing too major

>>724682418
meant for >>724682241

>>724682319
>what you talking about?
Rose and Mulligan, both dykes but Rose is also obsessed with Alan. Still, faggot dei shit.
>Also bringing in Warlin Door (Martin Hatch) which is most likely Saga's father is the reason they made her black
That's fine that she's black but she's a boring nigger and terrible character. They should have gave Warlin an interesting daughter.

>>724682380
>I remember when Tim Sweeney was freaking about Windows Store and talking about how they were gonna do some Linux shit.
Their engine supports Linux.

>>724682229
Well there are other interpretations but that one is by far the most common. Guy refuses to accept he killed his wife and is trapped in a horrifying delusional loop as a result. Especially since the film was partially inspired by OJ Simpson case, a guy who famously killed his wife

>>724682524
>Rose and Mulligan, both dykes
wut?

>>724682569
yeah but he was specifically talking about how Microsoft was going to lockdown third party software from Windows and require the use of their Windows Store. Putting EGS and Steam out of business unless they can escape hatch into Linux.

>>724679793
you know so much about women, yet you can't even get laid. weird.
>inbt b-but
shut the fuck up, incel.

>>724682625
>Especially since the film was partially inspired by OJ Simpson case
OJ didn't kill his wife.

>>724682791
Are you actually retarded? I'm an oldfag. Me not getting laid is because I've been married for 15 years, not because I don't understand women.

>>724681836
>Alan Woke 2 and SH2R
Damn you really do have awful dog shit taste.

>>724672975 (OP)
geriatric man with dyed hair and faggot haircut
embarrassing

>>724687682
>balding anon

if i didnt find AW1 really scary even back in the day (just has decent atmosphere), would i like AW2 more?
is the enemies and horror actually varied and scary? or you just deal with pathetic shadow people like 99% of the time yet again?

>>724687998
There's more defined horrors, it takes from control in that aspect, but it's still moreso atmospheric than overtly horrifying.

I never understood the hype behind the games.

Especially with the "combat" it has.

>>724688156
I havent played Control either.. so no clue what you mean by "defined horrors"..
>atmospheric
urgg.. so another lame "horror" game then, gotcha. I need intense FEAR in my horror, not just spooky atmosphere- the latter doesnt scare me at all

>>724688207
Cult audiences like what they like.

>>724688232
Then yeah don't bother.
Control is an action game set in the universe with alan wake, except you play as a not-x-files agent who has to handle a bunch of supernatural, extraterrestrial shit, and alan wake's typewriter is one of the objects that's housed there. The combat in that game is a mix between quantum break and alan wake, it's more refined, instead of just "point flashlight, then shoot". That's a part of it, but there's more, more enemies that are like puzzles instead of just direct combat. The monsters are more than JUST shadows now, you see some callbacks to control throughout, that's what I meant by defined horrors, horrors that already exist and are known to the audience (in theory).
fear and jumpscares are a different type of game, definitely avoid.

>>724688232
Control is about an eldritch horror invading our world through the covert government agency that deals with SCP type shit. The invader appears to basically be an evil sound wave that infects people, turning them into husks that are no longer human, but there are other entities, one of which you can actually see and it is a straight up giant other-worldly monster.

>>724688328
>>724688392
Ok thanks guys, the way you both spin it, I think i should give Control a try instead. Could be more fun than AW2

>>724672975 (OP)
been replaying the game and I still quite like it, but I do think the free roam exploratory bits after every story segment kind of fucks the pacing

>>724688521
The ultimate edition has been given away a billion times on every platform, you might have it sitting in your epic or gog libraries if you have them, before you bother pirating.
It might also give you a bit more reason to play AW2, if you like it.

>>724687998
It has jump scares, you will get spooked for the wrong reasons
It's still a decent game, moreso if you've played every other remedy game

>>724688721
>epic or gog libraries
lol, amusing stuff anon... i ONLY use Steam for either deep sales or some few Denuvo games, but im much more of a sail the high seas guy rather than use GOG or even worse... Epic. Absolutely hate both.
But I appreciate the heads up anyway

>>724688974
That's fine, was just trying to save you effort. Hope you at least find some fun out of it.

>>724672975 (OP)
Alan is a better character but saga has far better environments. Ripoff Shining Hotel and a gay train station are fucking boring. Shitty new York is boring. Scary woods in some Podunk town is kino. I wish Alan was in Bright Falls and found himself in the same surrealist environments that incorporated the spooky woods. Idk if it's fins but Scandinavians have some fucked up scary forest lore and it shows in Sagas portion. I wish they expanded on it a bit more with video game trickery endless forest segments

>>724689208
Alans stage is actually not his stage
He's in a Max Payne (Alex Casey) world

>>724689081
Thx bud , hope so too

I liked the game less because they made Saga Anderson a negress.

>>724689293
When Casey is giving monologues its kino but still I think the bright falls environment is better, it's a shame the enemy encounters are so samey and formulaic. In an earlier chapter you run into an inconsequential lighthouse that doesn't serve the plot in any capacity and there's random enemies placed in and around it, yet the game never evokes the same feeling after that, it's always very well signposted and predictable encounters, even at the coffee theme park.

>>724689208
I feel the exact opposite, Saga's sections were kinda boring after the first few hours, Alan sections where always super sick and memorable and way, way scarier, and his writers room mechanic is actually good and isn't as annoying as the mind place thing.

>>724689381
I dunno anon, I don't think theres a bad stage in the game, I think you might just like cult in the woods better than the rest, which is kinda what the whole first Alan Wake was

>>724691185
blessed poretta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmG80jZ0MFw

>>724672975 (OP)
I read Sutter Cane instead.

Was he drawn to stories early on?

>>724691778
He had nightmares night and day.

>>724677212
Because attractive, nog women are less diverse than fugly ones, you male gaze projecting pig.

>>724692020
Are you considering trooning out?

>>724677642
They just don't give you any money if you don't provide your goods in a way they want.

>>724692042
Scratch, I...

>>724672975 (OP)
You seen Game Dungeon upload too?

>>724678967
Wrong. It is ALL women.

>>724693524
i feel it was one of his weaker game dungeons... still kino.

>>724672975 (OP)
I liked Alan Wake somewhat, really just appreciated what it was trying to go for.
Not surprised this washed studio couldn't find funding anywhere for AW2 except from desperate Sweeney after seeing the slop they put out with some nigger FBI woman as the main protag instead, I'm guessing they got funding under the table for that too.

The west is so fucking gay and cooked its unreal.

>>724675215
>Alan Wake 2 is my favorite horror game of the generation
jesus christ anon, how many horror games have you played in your whole life... three, four?

>>724695143
Epic belongs to tencent, you people have to decide already.

>>724695416
oh yeah, China created Alan Woke 2, is that your final answer retard?
this constant shitlib claptrap about how nothing is ever your fault, that you're never responsible for anything and that its always someone else's fault for the shit you do?

>>724679424
Puzzle Agent

>>724680861
of dollars.

>>724672975 (OP)
First game was always kind of mediocre to me. I vastly preferred the sequel.
Control is better than both

>>724673337
>a totally uninteresting character.
I disagree. I was really interested in what was going on with Saga and the events in Bright Falls. Although I wasn't a fan of them giving her "Swedish ancestry", even if that means tying Quantum Break's Hatch in to the story. I also enjoyed her mind palace mechanic, it was a neat way to assist the played in making sense of what was happening. Profiling was also cool, especially when the Andersons got involved.

>>724674553
>Saga was just alright to me.
I didn't enjoy all the long walking and backtracking as her. Granted, I was playing like a total completionist, so I sort of forced that on myself.

>>724672975 (OP)
I hated it so much I dropped it.
Didn't like Control either and was just miserable and exhausted by the time I finished it and the DLC.
I think I'm going to accept that I don't like any post-Max Payne Remedy games. I don't know when they lost their minds and decided every enemy needed to be a sponge.

>>724676563
Fixed.

I still can't believe Remedy threw all their potential from Max Payne away for Lake's surrealism fetish. They could have made much better games and made substantially more money. Instead we got a rehash of an episode of the Twilight Zone.

>>724679171
>>724679424
Is Twin Peaks worth watching?

>>724672975 (OP)
the best thing about alan woke 2 is the music video

>>724698839
Yes, genuinely everyone should watch it.

>>724698839
I didn't care for it. It's an expectations subverted soap opera, which unfortunately means it's bolted onto a soap opera. You need at least a minimal tolerance for dumbshit drama which I don't have.

>>724688521
Control is definitely more fun than AW2 (although the faces are rough), it's a straight up action game with infinite ammo. I'd honestly recommend starting with Control and then playing Alan Wake if the DLC area got you interested, and then pirating AW2 if you are still interested. This is how I played the games, anyway.

>>724698839
Original can be painful to watch because the music repeats ad nauseam and there's a lot of nonsense teenage romance subplots which add nothing to the show and a main story which suddenly seems resolved halfway through but then uses a boorish villain to continue it.

Return seems to handle things a lot better and doubles down on the surrealist elements, erasing most of the irrelevant content except for these 3 minute random bands playing at the end of the episode. It's hardly perfect either but I enjoyed it more.

The movie (a prequel to the original) seems like Lynch's teenage rape fetish. It borders on the disturbing and Laura crying or freaking out chews up about 2/3rds of the runtime.

>>724672975 (OP)
cringemaxxing

>>724673471
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nplefywEFI

Am I the only one who keeps forgetting the sequel has a PC port? Every time Alan Wake 2 is brought up I keep thinking it's a console exclusive game.

>>724698839
I'd suggest watching some Lynch movies first to see if you like his style. Blue Velvet or Mulholland Drive are my recommendations.

>>724682625
>"I like to remember things my own way. How I remembered them, not necessarily the way they happened".
>is tortured by a strange supernatural entity with a camera, showing the true, objective moment of how he killed his wife, shattering his delusions

>>724687998
>would i like AW2 more?
No you wouldn't. AW1 atmosphere was nice, campy but comfy. AW2 has none of the charm that AW1 had going for it. Even the remaster has more soul than AW2 IMO.
>or you just deal with pathetic shadow people like 99% of the time yet again?
Literally just this but without the Twin Peaks aesthetic. The game looks amazing but besides graphics, I think the first game is better in every aspect.

>>724689293
Why aren’t they calling him max payne btw? Is it just some pseudonym shit? It took me a second to realize it was max but then I felt the kino radiating through my headset

>>724701223
>Why aren’t they calling him max payne btw?
Rockstar owns Max Payne.
>Is it just some pseudonym shit?
Almost all of it, yes, but not quite. Alex Caseys and Aleksi Kesä actually have some notable differences from Max Payne and different iterations are on a continuum with each other, where usually four share a trait, but one doesn't.

>>724678210
It's filler. Worth a play if you like AW1 combat I guess

>>724703849
>>724678210
American Nightmare is worth a play at least once for the best version of Scratch gets some screen time. It's only about four hours long, has some fun weapons and encounters but also the structure is repetitive by nature.

>>724695073
I liked it, but I don't really know anything about Alan Wake. Last time I seen anything of it was decade or so ago as some youtube played DLC or whatever of it, I didn't really care for it.

>>724684613
>can't name anything better
You're a pussy.

>>724672975 (OP)
Schizophrenic hack. Imagine actually writing this all down.

>>724680861
>Filters millions by making itself unavailable to them
Well played

>>724698782
kek

>>724680861
I wouldn't go that far. Lake admitted he needed to use the fan wiki to write Alan Wake 2 because he didn't even remember his own plot

>>724672975 (OP)
Very funny that they couldn't get any DEI investments from making an Alan Wake game so they had to make it about some random black lady and the game still make them go bankrupt lol

>>724672975 (OP)
Loved the first game back in the day, did Ila replay with my roommate to get prepared for this and now we're going through it like a spooky show together. I'm playing and they watch and we work together on puzzles. We went through control the same way, so this story has been really fucking interesting. Just did a chapter with a surprise face from the past that had us questioning the whole time.

Also, I'm personally swapping back and forth, just because I like breaking it up. But I think I enjoy saga's side of the game more. The clue board and the world is just much more interesting than Alan and his insane delusions, even if his segments are super cool to see. The Herald of darkness was particularly banging, even though I kept dying on the final segment and had to reatrt it a few times (broke the musical illusion a bit)

A***l W**e

>>724678882
Lmao no it doesn't you nigger lover.

literature >>>> games
deal with it chuds

i actually preferred alan wake 1 over alan wake 2. something about it idk. anyone else?

>>724708501
Overall yeah. AW2 feels more generic

>>724701223
Think of all the characters in this game as alternate versions of Remedy properties from alternate realities
Even Saga
Also F for Max Paynes VA

>>724672975 (OP)
>OH NO, I NEED TO USE MY REALITY-WARPING TYPEWRITER TO WRITE A WAY TO DEFEAT THE SCARY LAKE! AAARRRGHGH IT'S SO DIFFICULT! I'M GOING CRRRaaaAAZYYY!
"=Chapter one="
"Once this sentence is put to paper, the Lake-bound Presence and all iterations, extensions, and expressions thereof will permanently and irrevocably cease to exist."
"The End."
There you go, problem solved.
'Keep it simple stupid' wins again.

>No Saga doesn't hate whites, it's just the darkness making her evil!
>Please ignore the part where the game explicitly points out that the darkness just enhances and takes advantage of your faults and weaknesses! (in other words, she already had those views)
Daily reminder that Saga unironically wants you dead.

>>724708501
Alan’s story in one was more exciting, the pressure is way higher throughout the whole game. I really enjoyed 2 though, shame it didnt sell shit.

Wake..

>Alan Wake: Good
>Alan Woke: Bad
Simple as

I don't really care about the story, is 2 worth a pirate for the gameplay?

>He just tried to hit me with an Axe through the Door.
>An Axe... like the Shining!

>>724713401
It's a very story-heavy game with shallow combat. If you don't care for the story then this game won't be for you.

>>724679675
This. Hotel might have been my favorite area of the game and actually managed to spook me for a bit.