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Anonymous No.724691959 [Report] >>724692038 >>724692131 >>724692160 >>724692187 >>724692218 >>724692325 >>724692878 >>724693057 >>724693065 >>724693367 >>724693392 >>724693446 >>724693530 >>724693587 >>724693624 >>724693723 >>724694038 >>724694318 >>724694580 >>724694718 >>724695521 >>724695876 >>724695937
This type of shit has been going on for over a decade now. When will the western games industry stop demonizing female characters that have sex appeal?
Note: I am posting this pic specifically to point out just how long this has been going on.
Anonymous No.724691994 [Report] >>724692491 >>724694507 >>724695867 >>724695876
what do hyphenated last named people do when they marry another hyphenated last name person
Anonymous No.724692030 [Report]
>When will the western games industry stop demonizing female characters that have sex appeal?
when the chuds stop doing nothing
Anonymous No.724692038 [Report] >>724692145
>>724691959 (OP)
legacy media is dead, why are you shilling it?
Anonymous No.724692131 [Report]
>>724691959 (OP)
it's always some ugly toastie kek
Anonymous No.724692145 [Report] >>724692224
>>724692038
For something that is supposedly dead, they sure as hell have more influence than any of us do.
Anonymous No.724692160 [Report]
>>724691959 (OP)
When people finally wake up to the communists and foreign countries that support them trying to destroy the western world. Also when normalfags start seeing socialism and communism as ideologies that are as bad as the nazis. Basically never.
Anonymous No.724692186 [Report] >>724692262
There was an article making the rounds in 2005 from some college about how Silent Hill 2 is the ultimate gamer game because the women are all children or rape victims or sluts or dead.
Anonymous No.724692187 [Report]
>>724691959 (OP)
but I thought video games were always made by leftoids
how could they be sexist
Anonymous No.724692218 [Report]
>>724691959 (OP)
>How sexist is your favorite video game
I would say very yes and that's good. When you have the black goat of the woods with a thousand young bound and wearing a human suit you kind of expect it.
Is it still sexist when she is the one doing the impregnating and that is the only part she really cares about?
Anonymous No.724692224 [Report]
>>724692145
You always say thus yet anytime people look into it, it turns out its what the devs wanted to do because they are drinking the koolaid.
Anonymous No.724692262 [Report]
>>724692186
>college
That checks out given that many of those people writing articles like that in college moved on to become game journalists.
Lemonmoder No.724692273 [Report] >>724692357 >>724692536 >>724693565 >>724693687 >>724696142
Dude who cares? Just play your game and ignore it retard. “Wahhh this random bitch thinks my sexy ass video game character is too hot” and you get actually bothered by it like shut the fuck up and play your game dumbass
Anonymous No.724692325 [Report] >>724692557
>>724691959 (OP)
I genuinely want to understand.
Why did people startbto listen to women when they did the opposite of what they said?
When did women started to be taken into consideration that didn't involve rearing and the family unit?
Anonymous No.724692357 [Report] >>724692646
>>724692273
>dude, just ignore the roaches that have set up shop in your house!
>They don't pose any harm!
I'm sure you would love us to just sit back and let these people have free rein over the rest of the world's gaming companies.
Anonymous No.724692491 [Report]
>>724691994
Notice the person in question is a hon. They swordfight it out with their...hyphens.
Anonymous No.724692536 [Report] >>724692646 >>724694959
>>724692273
It's not some random bitch anon. They are fucking up shit at the payment processor level.
Anonymous No.724692557 [Report]
>>724692325
For whatever reason, the games industry decided that it needed to mature. Hence, all of this bullshit. Hence, E3 getting rid of booth babes.
It was all an attempt to shed the notion that gaming was a "boy's club."
And the people making and covering games wanted so badly to be taken seriously as an art form, and they assumed that DOA Beach Volleyball would never be art because it appealed to men.
Anonymous No.724692572 [Report]
This doesn't go away until professors are behind bars. The communists are so deeply ingrained in academia that you would need a complete investigation of every professor in every school across the united states.
Lemonmoder No.724692646 [Report] >>724692791 >>724692825
>>724692357
Youre such a beta cuck. Just ignore it, don’t buy the games that you consider “woke” and only buy the games you like. How is this difficult?
>>724692536 then pirate games retard
Anonymous No.724692667 [Report]
It won't stop until fat women, ugly women and bitter women stop existing because the fat ugly spiteful feminazis are the ones crying about MUH UNREALISTIC BEAUTY STANDARDS IN MUHDIA. meanwhile you have to be a billionaire with a 6 pack and a huge dick and even then these princesses will think they're "settling"
Anonymous No.724692763 [Report] >>724692835 >>724693780
There's a difference between appealing to men, and softcore porn. Just like how any sensible person instantly sees the difference between a mascot character like Sonic vs a literal furfag self insert/pandering design.
Anonymous No.724692791 [Report] >>724693025
>>724692646
I already DO just play the games I like. The problem is that those games is dwindling because of people like you who, apparently, just slop up whatever shit the industry puts out.
You're not above anything by not caring. If anything, it makes you a faggot.
Then again, you're just using the age-old tactic of appealing to triviality because you agree with what the western games industry is doing.
Anonymous No.724692825 [Report] >>724692892 >>724692984 >>724693264
>>724692646
You're either a retard or just on their side pretending to not be. Sure, just let them keep indoctrinating kids and infiltrating every institution in the west with no opposition whatsoever. What could go wrong? They'll just tire themselves out and stop in a few days.
Anonymous No.724692835 [Report] >>724692964 >>724693225 >>724693432
>>724692763
>softcore porn
Like BG3?
That won GOTY?
That sold millions?
That had more sex and nudity than just about any mainstream Japanese game in the past decade?
That every games journalists lauded to hell and back?
Anonymous No.724692878 [Report]
>>724691959 (OP)
>(((schultz)))
Anonymous No.724692892 [Report]
>>724692825
>just on their side pretending to not be
100% what is, and it's one of their oldest tactics.
Anonymous No.724692964 [Report] >>724693000 >>724693086 >>724694301
>>724692835
>this tired disingenuous argument again
Lemonmoder No.724692984 [Report] >>724693214
>>724692825
The reason this shit keeps going is because you keep engaging.
Anonymous No.724693000 [Report] >>724693073 >>724693432
>>724692964
Just say you have no argument and move on. We're anonymous.
Lemonmoder No.724693025 [Report] >>724693167
>>724692791
You’re such a cuck it’s unreal. Literally having your hobby ruined by women because you don’t know how to ignore it
Anonymous No.724693048 [Report] >>724693439 >>724695604
Women deserve better.
Anonymous No.724693057 [Report] >>724693167 >>724693727
>>724691959 (OP)
>demonizing female characters that have sex appeal?
Are you retarded? Do you have brain damage? Or can you plain not read? Or is it easier to pretend that you are in the right if you are just straw manning your opponents argument?
Because NOBODY is saying you can't have characters with sex appeal. They tend to love characters with sex appeal. (resident evil dommy mommy and horror girlies, Every single baldurs gate character, Dispatch, Hades characters, Cyberpunk characters, the list goes on).
What these people criticize is not female characters with sex appeal. It's female characters that exist as litte more than sexual gratification for a mostly male audience. Characters that have no reason to be overly sexualized for the situation they are in, yet are overly sexualized anyway.
Note: You do not have to agree with them, or even believe that having female characters be little more than wank-dolls is bad in any way, but if you can't even read and repeat their arguments correctly, then you're a gigantic faggot, and in fact: worse than them.
Anonymous No.724693065 [Report]
>>724691959 (OP)
gaming """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""journalism"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" is literally dying just give it more time.
Anonymous No.724693073 [Report] >>724693095 >>724693208
>>724693000
It doesn't work on anyone who has actually played the game and saw that the sex and nudity amounts to at best a minute or so across a 100+ hour game.
Anonymous No.724693086 [Report]
>>724692964
What about Mass Effect? The Last of Us 2? Wolfenstine with the topless preggo bitch? Cyberpunk 2077? Etc, etc, etc.
Anonymous No.724693095 [Report] >>724693213
>>724693073
And yet, it was the thing that got the most attention and the most articles.
Anonymous No.724693167 [Report] >>724693283
>>724693057
>>724693025
Ignoring cancer doesn't make it go away.
Look, it's obvious what you want.
You want to shame people into not pushing back on what you're doing.
That ship sailed away a long time ago.
So, stop.
Hell, you lost the argument the second you started using ad hominem. Your tactics are old. Get new ones.
Anonymous No.724693208 [Report]
>>724693073
Even that is more than in those JP games that don't even have that content to begin with.
>yea bro full on naked tits is the same as seeing panties because you only see the tits rarely. Please ignore games that actually let you keep the girls topless if you want
Anonymous No.724693213 [Report] >>724693259
>>724693095
Maybe according to your own confirmation bias.
Anonymous No.724693214 [Report] >>724693264
>>724692984
No, the reason it keeps happening is because the older generations are retards that just let them ingrain themselves so deeply into these positions in the first place. Your exact outlook is why this is happening at all, and why it'll keep happening if people become stay as braindead as you.
>These people who believe in a specific ideology will just stop advocating for it if you don't reply to them on twitter
dumbass argument
Anonymous No.724693225 [Report]
>>724692835
bg3 looked like shit so of course fags like it
Anonymous No.724693259 [Report] >>724693291 >>724693405
>>724693213
No.
I can find more.
Anonymous No.724693264 [Report] >>724693362
>>724692825
>>724693214
You're retarded. A lot of the time it's shown time and again to be the old guys who want these things.
Anonymous No.724693283 [Report] >>724693363 >>724695954 >>724696223
>>724693167
What the fuck are you talking about? I literally just explained that if you can't correctly repeat the feminists argument, and boil it down what you WANT it to be (Sexy = bad) because that's more convenient for you to argue against, then you're a gigantic fucking faggot. And you are.
Like I said: You don't have to agree with them. In fact feel free to say that they're full of shit, and why you think their arguments don't hold water. But don't expect ANYONE who's not a fucking retard who gets their political views from TheQuartering and Asmongold, to take you seriously, when you can't even correctly repeat the argument that you are against.
Anonymous No.724693291 [Report] >>724693405
>>724693259
Anonymous No.724693362 [Report] >>724693471
>>724693264
Okay, commie.
Anonymous No.724693363 [Report] >>724693570
>>724693283
You're so fucking obvious.
Anonymous No.724693367 [Report]
>>724691959 (OP)
jews have a culture that revolves around two things: scamming and criticizing. Their goy slaves see their jewish masters become wealthy, popular, and successful by bitching and moaning all the time so they immitate that behavior. its never going to stop as long as they hold wealth and power in society.
Anonymous No.724693392 [Report]
>>724691959 (OP)
Lollipop Chainsaw is feminist, she's hypercompetent and carries her boyfriend around on her belt.
Anonymous No.724693405 [Report] >>724693431
>>724693291
>>724693259
>jew porn good
>goy porn... le heckin bad, ur going to hellerino :(
Anonymous No.724693431 [Report]
>>724693405
Are you ok?
Anonymous No.724693432 [Report] >>724693506 >>724693585 >>724694301 >>724694827 >>724695145
>>724693000
>>724692835
nta but: there's a difference between a game like Stellar Blade where the main character looks like something you'd see on onlyfans the entire time, and her highly sexual outfit(s) have nothing to do with the story at all.
vs a game that is a huge, 70 hour epic, that also happens to have sex scenes in it. In BG3 the sex scenes are earned, by following a story and building relationships. The critique here is that other games just give you lewdness because lewdness sells.
This is like saying: "You accept this James Bond movie having a sex scene, why won't you let me show an entire softcore movie?" There's a difference between having a moment of eroticism, and having eroticism being the main focus point.
Anonymous No.724693439 [Report] >>724695741
>>724693048
theshort bitch on her tippy toes is hot
Anonymous No.724693446 [Report]
>>724691959 (OP)
>stop sexualizing womyn
>meanwhile she goes to shlick to some sexualized men but its fine because she is a woman therefore has not accountability
i don't take women seriously anymore
Anonymous No.724693471 [Report] >>724693509
>>724693362
Keep being an idiot then when the proof is right there. All the so called based creators always keep on showing that they changed.
Anonymous No.724693506 [Report]
>>724693432
>you'd see on onlyfans
Its clear you live in a fantasy world where only the west can do no wrong
Anonymous No.724693509 [Report]
>>724693471
Yeah, yeah. And it's all secretly the jews doing it, we know.
Anonymous No.724693510 [Report]
How come the only measurement of sexism these journalists seem to recognize is physical appearance? Where are any examples of overt misogyny in video games where the offender is treated as the proper perspective? Hate on pretty girls all you want, but a cheerful female protagonist only helps improve their image amongst awkward boys who may have been ostracized by them for most of the formative years.
Anonymous No.724693530 [Report]
>>724691959 (OP)
>schultz
Haha
>Stop playing heckin sexist games chuds, just watch porn(hub)!
>Your card will always be accepted at the hub now that we've removed the riff-raff indie producers leeching from our income!
Anonymous No.724693565 [Report]
>>724692273
We did that back in 2009. They then infested the industry and now every major studio have inclusivity officers.
Anonymous No.724693570 [Report] >>724693728 >>724693735 >>724696273
>>724693363
Literally tell me how I'm wrong. You're doing just another form of what I have already said: Instead of engaging AT ALL with what I said, you just assume I'm one of the bad people, and I don't know, some fucking form of enemy of video games?
Does that make it easier to stick your head in the fucking sand? Once again: I literally said you don't have to agree with them. I don't give a fuck if you do or do not. But if you see someone try to make a point about something in video games, and instead of engaging with the point, you say "you just hate video games" how am I supposed to take you seriously? You're essentially calling these people gaming racists, lmao.

If you have a point to make, make it. Say your piece. Correctly identify what the other person is saying and disagree with it. Or realize that you've accidentally allowed yourself to become lazy and complacent, and are just ignoring what others are saying because you're assuming you're right and they're wrong anyway, on principle, without needing to actually proof that point.
Anonymous No.724693585 [Report] >>724693672 >>724693987
>>724693432
Why can't characters be sexy for the sake of being sexy?
I have no problem with BG3 and the way it handles sex. I also have no problem with Stellar Blade because at the end of the end of the day, it's fiction.
My problem is the double standard surrounding how the west does sex appeal and how the east does it.
The west celebrates non-traditional sex appeal while demonizing traditional sex appeal.
Anonymous No.724693587 [Report] >>724695704
>>724691959 (OP)
It stops when journalists lose their jobs and thats seems to be progressing nicely
Anonymous No.724693624 [Report]
>>724691959 (OP)
>hyphenated last name
loooooool
Anonymous No.724693672 [Report] >>724694363
>>724693585
Bingo. There are lots of gays being sexual the whole time in some western games and yet they don't call those games "basically porn" or "akin to onlyfans"
Anonymous No.724693687 [Report]
>>724692273
These people have influence in tbe industry anon, just ignore them would be the worst thing to do
Anonymous No.724693723 [Report] >>724694313
>>724691959 (OP)
Anonymous No.724693727 [Report]
>>724693057
>Because NOBODY is saying you can't have characters with sex appeal.
>Characters that have no reason to be overly sexualized for the situation they are in, yet are overly sexualized anyway.
So that's exactly what you're saying, only with an entirely subjective qualifier
>resident evil dommy mommy and horror girlies, Every single baldurs gate character, Dispatch, Hades characters, Cyberpunk characters
Safe horny objectification is still objectification
Anonymous No.724693728 [Report] >>724694209
>>724693570
One day you'll realize that engaging with people who have no intention of engaging with you in return is completely and utterly pointless, let alone with these people who openly declare their disdain for (you) and (you)r culture.
Anonymous No.724693735 [Report] >>724694209
>>724693570
Because that you say is not conducive to actual debate. You're the one that came out attacking.
You appealed to triviality, saying none of this matters and to just move on, which is a common tactic used to silence dissent.
You want us to shut up, but instead of saying that outright, you claim that any dissent is a sign of weakness.
You're not weaseling your way into making anyone change their mind.
People ignored this shit for well over a decade and got fed up with it, and rightfully so.
Anonymous No.724693780 [Report] >>724693850 >>724694056 >>724695445
>>724692763
Why is "softcore porn" bad again?
Anonymous No.724693850 [Report]
>>724693780
It's only bad if straight men enjoy it.
Anonymous No.724693987 [Report] >>724694138 >>724694342
>>724693585
>Why can't characters be sexy for the sake of being sexy?
I guess that depends on how gratuitous it is. In general, "sexy" characters are better received when they also have another character trait besides "sexy". Note: this is also true for other types of character traits. A character that is just "dumb" and nothing else, will get a lot of criticism. you add "good friend" "cares about doing the right thing" "incredible fighter" to it, and you have more of a character. but also: of course feminists tend to focus on female characters being sexualized, because that has to do directly with their field of feminism. Makes sense I guess.
>The west celebrates non-traditional sex appeal while demonizing traditional sex appeal.
I don't believe this to be true. There's still plenty of traditional sex appeal celebrated in the west, BG3 being a prime example.
the issue as I see it is: some people in the west (feminists, lefties, to a degree liberals) criticize characters that have basically nothing except traditional attractiveness. And the people who are against these groups (Right wing culture warriors) then misrepresent the first groups point: They tell their audience that they hate traditional attractiveness, and not their actual point: that they are critical of characters who have little to nothing else but attractiveness going for it. Characters with more tits than personality.
This is then combined with the fact that western critics are quite happy to see "non-traditional" sex appeal, further helps to push this lie, that they just "hate traditionally attractive women". But they really do not.
Then on top of that, you have a culture clash: eastern game studios are largely still very happy to create a game that puts sex appeal before anything else,while over here this is considered reductive.
Anonymous No.724694038 [Report] >>724694745 >>724695261
>>724691959 (OP)
It's always written by the same ugly women. Women can't handle seeing anything more prettier than them. Even if it's pixels.
Anonymous No.724694056 [Report] >>724695078
>>724693780
Depends on who you ask. It's problematic to some, it's degenerate, to others, there's just no real interest to gen z apparently.
Anonymous No.724694138 [Report] >>724694201 >>724694482 >>724694539
>>724693987
You make great points and I do not mean this in a hostile or derogatory manner, but... none of these characters are real and the vast majority of people can tell the difference between fiction and reality.
If people want to escape by fucking a bear in a game. Go ahead.
If people want to escape by playing as a cute girl fighting monsters. Go ahead.
None of it has any bearing on real life or how you treat real people.
Let people enjoy what they want as long as it's not illegal or no one is getting hurt.
There was a time when men could have their Playboys and women could have their romance novels. Let's go back to that.
Anonymous No.724694201 [Report]
>>724694138
>None of it has any bearing on real life or how you treat real people.
This isn't true, media has a profound impact on expectations and viewpoints of people. When Jaws released it genuinely increased real world issues for sharks as people started trying to cull them out of fears created by the depiction in the movie.
Anonymous No.724694209 [Report] >>724694292 >>724694417
>>724693728
You're not wrong anon. I'm just so sick of people seeing someone say: "Hmm. I think A" and faggots yelling: "OMG THIS PERSON THINKS B"!! It's tiring. I'm fully open to people disagreeing with fucking video game feminism, but what's the point if one side is arguing about the implications of what they see in video games, and the other side is just arguing that the first group are gaming racists, who hate gaming. It's so tiring.
>>724693735
What? Nigger I said to at least fucking make a point about the point the vidya feminists are making, not what you wish they would be saying to make them easier to attack. Like fuck, you are currently attacking me for saying that it doesn't even matter, which I didn't say? I literally didn't want you to shut up, I wanted you to address the actual point.
Anonymous No.724694215 [Report] >>724694384
Anonymous No.724694292 [Report] >>724694906
>>724694209
>what's the point if one side is arguing about the implications of what they see in video games, and the other side is just arguing that the first group are gaming racists, who hate gaming.
That's not a fair characterization. The other side isn't discussing videogames, they're simply calling "gamers" racist, sexist, hate filled transphobic bigots by using these absurd arguments.
Anonymous No.724694301 [Report] >>724694381
>>724693432
You can play the entire game with your party fully naked, it has dick physics and explicit sex scenes, BG3 is the most pornographic non porn game ever Made, Stellar Blade features at most bikinis which are allowed in PG13 media
>>724692964
You can't prove it wrong cause it's true, only things that appeal to me are demonized
Anonymous No.724694313 [Report]
>>724693723
based Fat Pizza poster
Anonymous No.724694318 [Report]
>>724691959 (OP)
Probably never, it's tied to our instinct to sabotage rivals in mating selection

By creating a culture that demonizes sexualisation you discourage other women from displaying their sex appeal and encourages a more conservative sexual culture, this is particularly advantageous for wealthy people against more attractive but poorer rivals and people that favour long term mating as it impedes their partner from cheating on them

So there's always gonna be a push against it

It's basically puritanism with a different coat of paint to make it look nicer
Anonymous No.724694342 [Report]
>>724693987
They want female characters to be ugly and manly/crude./butch
No idea why you are pretending this is not the case.
Anonymous No.724694363 [Report]
>>724693672
>There are lots of gays being sexual the whole time in some western games
WHERE???
Anonymous No.724694381 [Report] >>724694470
>>724694301
Your own image is a self-own because both scenes are very different in how they play out. As usual, half-truths and disingenuous assertions.
Anonymous No.724694384 [Report]
>>724694215
Anonymous No.724694417 [Report] >>724694906 >>724694969
>>724694209
>at least fucking make a point about the point the vidya feminists are making
I know what point they are making.
The fact of the matter is that the thing they are attacking (supposedly sexist characters) doesn't have any effect on men whatsoever.
It's not video games causing rape.
It's not video games causing attacks on women.
Having women be little more than sexual gratification is what porn has been doing for decades, and yet these same people applaud things like Onlyfans and sometimes even porn.
All of this is simply an attack on social norms, e.g., men daring to express attraction to sexy women, real or CG.
Games journalism, GG, Anita, has proved that this is true.
Anonymous No.724694470 [Report] >>724694497 >>724694581
>>724694381
>both scenes are very different in how they play out.
Youre actually right, one is a tasteful scene of a young man looking respectfully and keeping his hands to himself while the other is about humiliating an actor by having him be stripped down ully naked in bondage against his will bare ass fully shown in a pg 13 movie
Anonymous No.724694482 [Report]
>>724694138
>none of these characters are real and the vast majority of people can tell the difference between fiction and reality.
The first half is very true, and there's a good argument to be made that doing this to fictional women is not nearly as bad as doing this to real women. As for the second part: I guess the jury is still out, kinda? Not in the sence that if you make a female characters that wears bikinis and has the catchphrase: "females just want to be raped, it's our purpose!" that boys will go out and start raping anyone in a bikini. I think everyone does indeed know "that's fiction".
But again this boils down to "what are these feminists actually saying?", and from my understanding their point is that even if fictional, if enough media depicts women in a certain way, that does have an influence on people, and normalizes certain things. Hell, that's not even something the right disagrees with in general, it's the same reason anti-LGBT people don't want to see fags in games and movies. Because it's "normalizing deviant behavior". So the Idea of media influence on culture is not something that is exclusive to one side of the political spectrum.
How much or little it does influence, I guess is the debate. And of course depending on your political view, one is more of a problem than the other.
>Let people enjoy what they want as long as it's not illegal or no one is getting hurt.
This is a good part to mention that vidya feminists, while critical of over-sexed bimbo characters, as far as I know, they're not seeking to make them illegal do they? They're critical of them, but they're not out to band them in general. At least as far as I know there's no widespread movement for it. I might be wrong tho, I'm not actively into video game feminism.
Anonymous No.724694497 [Report] >>724694531
>>724694470
Half truth and disingenuous, once again.
Anonymous No.724694507 [Report]
>>724691994
asking the real questions
Anonymous No.724694531 [Report]
>>724694497
I accept your concession
Anonymous No.724694539 [Report] >>724694676
>>724694138
>Let people enjoy what they want as long as it's not illegal or no one is getting hurt.
True but the average westerners...
>can *NOT tell the difference between fiction and reality.
Anonymous No.724694574 [Report]
It's obvious you want games censored you fucking weasel.
Anonymous No.724694580 [Report]
>>724691959 (OP)
Maybe if westerners can be an ACTUAL adults.
Anonymous No.724694581 [Report] >>724694667
>>724694470
I have no idea what the Thor scene is about but I can take a guess and think that much like most instances of male nudity in superhero slop, it's supposed to be played for comedy, instead of any sort of sexual objectification.
Anonymous No.724694656 [Report] >>724694924 >>724694957
If this sort of thing has zero impact on how people behave, then why do other people want to pull woke or gay scenes from movies too, since in theory they should not have any real impact on people?
Anonymous No.724694667 [Report]
>>724694581
It's cometical for men. It's fanservice for women.
Anonymous No.724694676 [Report]
>>724694539
And the solution to that isn't showing them only the things that specific people want them to see, it's teaching them to think for themselves more. And it's not localized to the west at all either.
Anonymous No.724694718 [Report]
>>724691959 (OP)
Lmao nothing will change.
A nigger is smarter than white women, while white men got their heads stuck in white women's anus.
Anonymous No.724694745 [Report]
>>724694038
Anonymous No.724694774 [Report]
so /v/ lost?
Anonymous No.724694827 [Report]
>>724693432
Yeah the difference is men like and that's bad.
Anonymous No.724694883 [Report]
Anonymous No.724694906 [Report] >>724694982 >>724695217 >>724695249
>>724694292
But that's not what's happening here? I'm not denying that leftists have said all of these things about individual gamers in the past. Usually tho, they have been right, lmao.
But again: what this is about, is that in OPs Pic, a feminist is talking about sexism in video games, and instead of engaging with that point at all, OP has strawmanned this argument down to: "demonizing female characters that have sex appeal", which is not the argument the person is making.
If you were in school and had to write an essay rebutting the Idea of video game sexism, and all you addressed was demonization of sex appeal, you'd get an F for missing the topic entirely.
>>724694417
But you're doing it again. You are not listening. You are taking 12 steps ahead, to the most extreme theoretically possible result for women, based on negative depictions of women in vidya.
Not to mention that:
>doesn't have any effect on men whatsoever.
Do you know that? Are there studies on that, that you can cite? Or did you just assume this to be true, because *you* FEEL like it doesn't have an effect on YOU, and therefore it probably doesn't have an effect on anyone? How would you know? Have you tested it vs yourself living your entire life never being exposed to this?
And what about women? How do you know that if a majority of female characters are reduced to nothing but their bodies in media, that girls and women won't be affected? For instance that they might develop body image issues, where they feel like if they can't live up to these fictional beauty standards, they are unworthy? Or that maybe they have little to no worth besides their body?
Do you have researched this? Have you read the studies? Do you know the control groups? Or do you just "have a feeling" that you're right anyway, and assumed that's the universal truth?
And I don't actually want you to answer these questions here. Because that would be actually doing feminism, and fuck that, I'm not in the mood.
Anonymous No.724694924 [Report] >>724695047 >>724695057
>>724694656
This argument fails when you consider kids vs adults, adults being the biggest gaming demo, if you believe analysts.
Kids ARE impressionable, to a point, which is why the ESRB exists.
The thing about "gay or woke" stuff is that it's primarily targeted AT kids.
This argument, though, is that the people in charge of gaming in the west simply want less for their supposed enemies and more for them.
It's done out of pettiness, not an agenda.
Anonymous No.724694957 [Report] >>724695057
>>724694656
Another disingenuous argument comparing sexy women with literal propaganda.
Anonymous No.724694959 [Report]
>>724692536
Collective Shout aren't a part of the game industry though.
Anonymous No.724694969 [Report] >>724695019
>>724694417
>Games journalism, GG, Anita, has proved that this is true.
How? You haven't actually proven anything, nigger. You're again just saying that these people are wrong because you hate them, without providing any actual evidence.
Anonymous No.724694982 [Report] >>724695338
>>724694906
>Do you know that? Are there studies on that, that you can cite?
Weird how many people violent video games, including women, and yet there have been virtually zero shootings attributed to games.
Anonymous No.724695019 [Report] >>724695218
>>724694969
Show me real life evidence of what these people have said actually affecting real life.
Anonymous No.724695047 [Report] >>724695195
>>724694924
>The thing about "gay or woke" stuff is that it's primarily targeted AT kids.
Ah, is that why there was zero outrage about pronouns in the 17+ rated Starfield?
Anonymous No.724695057 [Report] >>724695119 >>724695153
>>724694924
>>724694957
>propaganda
Bullshit. If you seriously think people can be made gay, it's usually a sign that you're experiencing it yourself and resisting it out of moral obligation, and projecting that struggle on others. Most men literally see zero appeal in other men even when forced into their vision. If it's even possible for you to be tempted, you're already a faggot, or at least bicurious.
Anonymous No.724695078 [Report]
>>724694056
They are misunderstanding why they don't want to see it, they are assuming its because they just don't like it but I don't think have actually asked people in that demographic WHY they don't want romantic relationships depicted.
The reality is that many of them find them uncomfortable and hard to watch, as their experience with relationships is not like what is depicted, many only have bad experiences or far more casual relationships despite not wanting that, a significant portion simply have no experience at all and simply do not relate at all to them.

Of course they don't want to see some love triangle where they are people fighting for each against others, some awful on again off again relationships as they can't figure things out, because that simply is not the reality of relationships to them. It is incredibly unrealistic to them so they don't want.
No shit they want to see friendships, they actually have friends and want to see good depictions of friendships which they have experienced, even if that is not always the case.
Anonymous No.724695119 [Report] >>724695176
>>724695057
>If you seriously think people can be made gay,
Then why do male gay couples ONLY adopt boys?
Anonymous No.724695145 [Report]
>>724693432
Anonymous No.724695153 [Report]
>>724695057
Nobody is claiming it will make people gay retard.
Anonymous No.724695172 [Report]
What is /v/'s stance on sexy shit in games? Is it le degeneracy or le based?
Anonymous No.724695176 [Report] >>724695220
>>724695119
I have no idea, but it's however well known that boys raised by mothers with no male role model don't turn out correctly.
Anonymous No.724695195 [Report] >>724695273 >>724695482
>>724695047
The outrage there is that because people are tired of it. For people who pride themselves on realism, they sure as hell inflate the number of gays relative to the population.
Here's the thing: Maybe people, and I do mean most of them, are just fucking tired of the pandering. Not because they hate gays or other minorities. They just hate how it's handled and shoehorned.
Anonymous No.724695217 [Report] >>724695524 >>724695863
>>724694906
Just for you I potentially gave them ad revenue and to absolutely nobody's surprise, not even yours, it is exactly as anon's have described it. Going even further to say that it's sexist for female characters to be portrayed as lifting up men out of their troubles. It's disgusting and ironically nothing but sexist propaganda itself.

Not only that, but it runs defense for a disgusting person like Anita who has done all the things anons have mentioned in this thread even if the article itself was miscategorised. These people deserve no good faith interpretations at all.
Anonymous No.724695218 [Report] >>724695250
>>724695019
What? What the fuck are you talking about? The post I responded to is saying that Journos, GG, and anita somehow have proven that the entirety of video game feminism is just an attack on men liking attractive women.
I demanded literally ANY evidence for this being true and your comeback to this is: "Prove random shit they have said"? Fucking no nigger. You claimed there's proof, present it, or apologize for being a faggot.
You can't just say there's proof of a thing, and when people ask for that proof, ask them to present evidence of something else, lmao.
Anonymous No.724695220 [Report]
>>724695176
>two male gays acting like women
>one actual women
Thank you.
Anonymous No.724695249 [Report]
>>724694906
>If you were in school and had to write an essay rebutting the Idea of video game sexism, and all you addressed was demonization of sex appeal, you'd get an F for missing the topic entirely.
If they were in school and had to write an essay saying why video games are sexist they would fail because they misunderstood what sexism is and are fundamentally misunderstand not only the definition of the word but the practice and why it would be bad.
They assert that sexualization is automatically sexism and the sexualization is inherently bad AND that sexualization is not equal. That is an automatic fail for them, there is nothing to defend because they have no argument, with no argument, just saying someone is wrong is already enough to dismiss it as they have no point.
Anonymous No.724695250 [Report]
>>724695218
Anonymous No.724695261 [Report] >>724695432 >>724695462 >>724696351
>>724694038
True
Anonymous No.724695273 [Report] >>724695315 >>724695335
>>724695195
>relative to the population
Since games are a global thing now, most characters ought to be chinese if we are basing it on demographics and proven purchasing proportions.
Anonymous No.724695315 [Report]
>>724695273
Or, they should represent the country in which rye are made. \Chinese primarily make games for Chinese people.
Anonymous No.724695335 [Report]
>>724695273
Pretending not to get the point again award
Anonymous No.724695338 [Report] >>724695362
>>724694982
All the school shooting was because of COD
Anonymous No.724695362 [Report]
>>724695338
Even the ones before COD existed!
Anonymous No.724695385 [Report]
SISTERS
WE
ARE
WINNING
Anonymous No.724695432 [Report] >>724695486 >>724695547 >>724695619
>>724695261
So women are the salty incels they accuse of being ?
Anonymous No.724695445 [Report]
>>724693780
This is really the elephant in the room, it’s a religious belief masquerading as “common sense science” that sex appeal is immoral
Anonymous No.724695462 [Report]
>>724695261
kek
Anonymous No.724695482 [Report] >>724695529
>>724695195
>People are tired of it.
Ah yes, because 99% of games have non he/she pronoun options.
Wait, fuck, no. How many games were out at the time where you could pick either a "they" pronoun, or select "he" as a female character? like.. 5 mainstream ones? Fuck, I can see why people got so tired of it. Gosh. It's really sickening, it was practically everywhere! Let me go on metacritic and look at the top games of 2023
>BG3
>TotK
>Mario Bros Wonder
>Xenoblade 3
>SF6
>Against the Storm
>slay the princess
>Spider-man2
>Jack Jeanne
>Videoverse
>Dave the diver
>Pizza Tower
>Phantom Liberty
>Alan Wake II
>Cocoon
>Talos Principle 2
>God of War Rag.
>Sea of Stars
Gosh, in how many of these can you pick non-standard pronouns? Is it none of them? I can see why you were so sick of it by the time Starfield came around. I mean, at least 2 of these games let you pick your gender in general. That's almost like pronound picking. Fuck, it's EVERYWHERE and totally not a hugely overblown culture war issue, at all! You're very smart for noticing! Has your favourite youtuber / twitter account told you that you're smart for noticing yet? Got that dopamine yet?
Anonymous No.724695486 [Report]
>>724695432
>Women are hypocrites.
Yes. Are you just finding this out now?
Anonymous No.724695521 [Report]
>>724691959 (OP)
Not a problem in Nortubel
Anonymous No.724695524 [Report] >>724695727 >>724695863
>>724695217
Jesus christ you're gonna make me read the god damn article to discover you're lying, aren't you? Give me a minute.
Anonymous No.724695529 [Report]
>>724695482
Insanely disingenuous dude, you listed a bunch of games that don’t have character creators. People are annoyed because at some point it became omnipresent in games with character creators
Anonymous No.724695547 [Report]
>>724695432
Some of them clearly have husbands or boyfriends, anon. They can't be femcels. But yes, they just call people incels to discredit them and justify taking violent or coercive actions against them. The actual left has been pushed to the center, the people called left now are just hateful liars that only play word games.
Anonymous No.724695574 [Report]
Well did de-sexualizing games reduce sexist tendencies in gamers?
Anonymous No.724695604 [Report]
>>724693048
I don't like when girls are too beautiful, it ends up looking plain and souless. They would look better with unperfect hair and skin
Anonymous No.724695619 [Report]
>>724695432
Realistically women can't be incels, they can only be involuntary single, only good pump and dumps from Chad and Tyrone
Anonymous No.724695652 [Report]
Anonymous No.724695704 [Report]
>>724693587
Bottom right is the majority on nu-/v/
Anonymous No.724695709 [Report] >>724696390
Anonymous No.724695727 [Report] >>724695863
>>724695524
I'm lying by posting the text in full and in context, I guess. Anyway good luck, it's not even an article really. Just a list of things Anita said were sexist without justifications and a defense for a woman we all know is morally reprehensible.
Anonymous No.724695741 [Report]
>>724693439
Yeah she has the biggest breasts and deliberately makes them jiggle
Catpcha: T42HAG
Anonymous No.724695810 [Report] >>724695851
Anonymous No.724695851 [Report]
>>724695810
i mean she was a literal prostitute kek
Anonymous No.724695863 [Report] >>724696072
>>724695217
>>724695524
Surprise! Anon was lying.
>it is exactly as anon's have described it.
it is not. It's barely even a fucking article. In fact the entire original content of the article is: "Hollywood movies, television, and video games are meant to entertain and transport us outside of our narrow realities, but what if our favorite escapes are perpetuating damaging stereotypes? In her video series, Feminist Frequency—which has garnered her some extreme hateful backlash—pop-culture critic Anita Sarkeesian tackles unflattering portrayals of women in media. You may recognize some of the following tropes. Quotes are from Sarkeesian."
and after that it's just a quote of 9 Tropes anita has identified as common tropes for women in video games.

> Going even further to say that it's sexist for female characters to be portrayed as lifting up men out of their troubles.
Nigger you're doing exactly what I accused OP of. The quote is saying: "a childlike muse WHO EXISTS TO help the troubled male protagonist escape doomg and gloom", the point here clearly being that the characters entire reason for existing, is to be a tool for the male protagonist to get better. It is NOT saying that a woman uplifting a man is sexist. It is saying that having a woman in fiction that only exists for the benefit of a male character, is a negative trope.

>Not only that, but it runs defense for a disgusting person like Anita who has done all the things anons have mentioned.
Anita has done very little besides make THE most basic video series on video game feminism, and was RELENTLESSLY attacked for it.

>>724695727
Well anon, if you aren't lying, then you aren't reading. It's not saying what you think it is saying, nor what you say it is saying. You're once again taking a text of someone you pre-judged to be the terrible no good bad enemy of video games, and chosen to take anything she said, to a weird, out of context unrelated extreme.
Anonymous No.724695867 [Report]
>>724691994
After the wedding night, her hyphen is still intact.
Anonymous No.724695876 [Report]
>>724691994
>>724691959 (OP)
lissDASHscultz
the dash is not quiet
Anonymous No.724695937 [Report]
>>724691959 (OP)
>How sexist is your favorite video game?
hopefully very
Anonymous No.724695954 [Report]
>>724693283
Fuck off
Anonymous No.724695978 [Report] >>724696029
Did you seriously think you where going to get /v/ to say the screeching harpies that have been trying to censor videogames for over a decade might have a point?
Anonymous No.724696027 [Report] >>724696234
Can't we compromise? keep the beautiful silly blonde bimbos and let femcels create the male designs, i think that's a fair trade off.
Anonymous No.724696029 [Report]
>>724695978
They genuinely do.

We don't need video games to be pornographic nor do the majority of gamers want them to be pornographic. Incels are a vocal minority that can fuck off.
Anonymous No.724696072 [Report] >>724696363
>>724695863
>Anita has done very little besides make THE most basic video series on video game feminism, and was RELENTLESSLY attacked for it.
Aww, you're not even a fun shitposter.

>the point here clearly being that the characters entire reason for existing
That's their, and yours too apparently, subjective interpretation of the archetype. Ironically they, and you, are doing exactly what you're accusing others of doing right now and treating the female characters as one note objects. It's a self fulfilling prophecy because the definition doesn't allow for any nuance whatsoever, the guilty verdict is baked into how they define it. There is no argument for why a female character existing to help a male character is bad because that's such a retarded claim to make, we're just supposed to accept the premise as objective truth because muh women's struggles.
Anonymous No.724696142 [Report]
>>724692273
>just ignore them bro
No one fell for this deflection 10 years ago, no is going to fall for it now.
Anonymous No.724696223 [Report]
>>724693283
Anonymous No.724696234 [Report] >>724696334
>>724696027
No, fuck off and die.
never should've infiltrated the boy's club to begin with.
you invaded it and chose to complain about not belonging and asking everyone around you to change it instead of staying in a woman's place
Anonymous No.724696273 [Report]
>>724693570
>Instead of engaging AT ALL with what I said, you just call me out for exactly what I’m doing
Yes. Didn’t read the rest of your post.
Anonymous No.724696334 [Report]
>>724696234
>never should've infiltrated the boy's club to begin with.
saying this with a straight face is insane
i hope you're just a bot or a troll
Anonymous No.724696351 [Report]
>>724695261
half of these look like a case of RBF paired with people understandably glancing at someone dressed up weird in an airport
Anonymous No.724696363 [Report] >>724696449 >>724696497
>>724696072
>Aww, you're not even a fun shitposter.
Here's the honest truth: Back in the day, I was anti-anita too. I was full steam on the "fuck anita" train. But guess what? I've since looked into it more, and discovered that most of the shit I "knew" about anita, were lies, mischaracterization, half truths and out of context bullshit. She really, really isn't all that bad. Literally, the worst about her is that her video game feminism is kinda basic.

>Ironically they, and you, are doing exactly what you're accusing others of doing right now and treating the female characters as one note objects.
No nigger. You are deflecting here. Now you're starting to criticize her critique, saying (without provind any counter evidence at all) that the character is not one note.
That's NOT what we were talking about. The point was that the article is saying A, anon is saying B. The article is saying "Sexism in video games" OP is saying "They are demonizing female sex appeal". The article stump YOU posted is saying "who exists to help the troubled male protagonist", YOU are saying the article says: "Women uplifting men is sexist" fully erasing the point that she ONLY exists to help the male protagonist out of his depressive slump. Which you are now again dodging by claiming counter reverse double jinx sexism, for noticing that a character is one note.
>There is no argument for why a female character existing to help a male character is bad
OF COURSE THERE IS, NIGGER. THAT'S THE ENTIRE POINT. That creating women, to only exist for the sole purpose of serving a man, (here in the form of helping him out of a slump) with no other characteristics at all, is hella fucking sexist.
Now YOU, obviously can disagree with this being bad, but spoiler: If you find yourself arguing that making one-note characters with no actual personality or depth to them is good actually, you might be on the fucking retard side of the argument. Feminism or not.
Anonymous No.724696390 [Report]
>>724695709
lmao
Anonymous No.724696449 [Report]
>>724696363
Nta but nobody is going to fall for these weasel words, “the female character only exists to uplift the male character and that’s bad” is clearly not the operating definition because Senran Kagura which has almost no male characters at all was forced out of the market by the same ideology
Anonymous No.724696464 [Report]
Lmao remember when Anita did one of those marriage for one parties?
Anonymous No.724696497 [Report]
>>724696363
>"Women uplifting men is sexist" fully erasing the point that she ONLY exists to help the male protagonist out of his depressive slump.
When you look at the trope described as is, of course it sounds bad, but then you really have to have a compelling argument in regards to what female video game characters actually fit into this trope. Then it becomes a more complicated matter of how people actually see that character and if she truly fits that trope.