Thread 724694714

What should I look for in a gaming monitor in 2025?

>>724694714 (OP)
that depends on your video card, what is it?

>>724694784
9070 XT

>>724694830
that spec looks fine for 240 FPS if thats your target. or do you care more about 4k in which case 120 FPS is more realistic?

>>724694714 (OP)
You posted it.

>>724694714 (OP)
adaptive sync / g-sync is essential

>>724694912
I care about both. Games like Silk Song run at your max refresh rate no matter what. For more demanding games I don't care about only getting 60-90fps if it means I can play at 1440p upscaled to 4K.

>>724695000
I turn it off. Causes too much flickering. I literally never see tearing.

2000+ zone mini led ips 4k

>>724694714 (OP)
Mini LED backlight

>OLED monitor
Only 'garchs lurking here

Planning on getting this in January, assuming the price goes down a bit. Already have seen it for 850 down from 1000. OLED is the future.

>>724694714 (OP)
the numbers race never fails to make me laugh. soon it will be 41K LGBTHD

>>724694714 (OP)
I will buy a new 1440p 120hz+ monitor on cybermonday/blackfriday. not sure which though

What's the best 1080p OLED monitor money can buy?

>>724696381
i tested both the g9 oled 49 inch and the 57 inch mini led

the 57 inch is so much better than the oled plus you wont ever have burn in

>>724696705
that's a tv

>>724695142
Sounds like your shit pc cant maintain stable frametimes
>>724696381
Why would you buy old gen and especially one with a really grainy coating?
>>724695949
>smears blooms and flickers out the ass

>>724696725
Youre a retard
>>724696705
>miniled
>flickers
>smears
>higher inputlag with local dimming

>>724696705
I don't sit that far away from the screen, and that 57 inch mini led you are talking about is over double the price while having half the refresh rate.
>>724696731
As far as I know that screen is the highest refresh rate OLED monitor on the market right now.

>>724694714 (OP)
OLED
240hz minimum

>>724696705
mini led gets burn in too, just don't worry about it, even on oled

>>724696731
>smears blooms and flickers out the ass
every monitor has done that ever since we transitioned to LCDs.

>>724696782
>highest refreshrate oled on the marker
>500hz
Nope
Also the samsung coating looks like ass dont buy it buy the msi or asus 500hz instead
Or better yet buy the asus or gigabyte tandem woleds since theyre better

>>724694714 (OP)
(for single player games)
resolution native to the game
low response rate
60hz

anything more is retards with more money than technical knowledge

>>724696845
>every monitor bloom and smears
Not oled
>>724696859
>resolution native to the game
No such game exists
Stop being poor rajesh and why would you buy 60hz when 120+ cost no more?

>>724696889
360 games are natively rendered in 720p, so if you are using a 360 get 720p. modern sloppa is rendered natively in 1080p or 1440p so check your slop and get one of those. if you buy a 4k monitor and your game renders in 1080p your gpu upscales it and it looks like ass
t. been there done that

low response rate 60 hz > bad response rate 120hz

Is the MSI MAG 321UP any good? I want to upgrade to a 32in 4k OLED from a 1080p LCD. There's a sale near me where I can get it for ~$700.

>>724696985
>$700
It will last for at least 2 years, then it get a hard burn-in.
Seems ok to me.

>>724696782
Regarding the price, they regularly do sales, and allow you to stack discounts, i got mine for 50% of with the 10% loyalty discount 20% corp discount and a $500 sale
Also, every monitor for ergonomic reasons should be an arm away from you. my g9neo perfectly fits my FoV at that distance

>>724696772
Why would you just go on the internet and lie :^)
>>724696813
Mini LEDs never get burn in, whoever told you that is full of shit

>>724696850
At the rate these OLEDs are progressing I'm not convinced that 1Khz isn't already possible and they're just drip feeding. 1000Hz is the breakpoint for me to never need to upgrade unless some new panel type comes out. I guess we will see if anything new comes out in January or any price drops. As it stands I now want that Asus monitor with dual mode 720Hz, I thought it was only some Chinese monitor offering that right now.

>>724697027
>300 dollars per year monitor subscription
seems ok to me

>>724697060
I'm not playing Quake on a 57 inch monitor with 2022's refresh rate.

how many games are even optimised enough to pump out close to 240 frames

>>724697146
most games released before 2015

>>724697110
>2025
>playing quake
tranny detected

>>724697179
Must suck to be you man.

>>724697179
at this point tranny lost it's meaning and became a generic slur

>>724697171
then you just run into more and more games having fps caps below 240 (they're garbage console ports not worth playing anyway)

>>724697215
>complains that 240hz is 2022 tier
>main game is a 1990 game
kys nigger

>>724697262
you will never be a woman

>>724697027
It has a 3 year burn-in warranty. So you're not too far off.

>>724697316
thanks for proving me right

>>724694912
>9070 XT
>240 fps
>120 in 4k
is it a requirement to be delusional in order to use AMD products?

>>724697273
How many games do you know about that you can actually run at 720FPS? Maybe CS and Fortnite if you have a NASA supercomputer?

>>724694830
what software is this?
I'll set up my new computer soon and this look useful to show specs

>>724697435
Yeah that is my point. Even for those games, once you push past 300 fps, you barely notice the difference and you become completely CPU bound for 1080p.

>>724696984
No ones talking about consoles here you 2head poorfag
>response rate
So esl
>>724697060
Theres no flicker free miniled both vrr flicker and also zone flickering even the 2000 zone vas have zone flickering in dark games with small lights
Theres no smear free va
Theres no miniled that offers the same inputlag with local dimming enabled
Why are you poor?
>>724697027
>he thinks seeing some shades on a fullscreen solid background means the display is broken and cant be used anymore
To you lcd clouding and dse must mean your monitors broken

>>724694714 (OP)
Dell G2724D
Literally all you need.

>>724696984
So you have 6 different monitors anon?
480p 720p 1024 1080p 1440p and 2160p?

Actual retard this guy btw

>>724697531
On rather moderate hardware I have no trouble maintaining over 3k FPS in QuakeWorld with consistent frametimes. Every leap forward in refresh rate has been monumentally noticeable and beneficial except for earlier 240Hz screens which had terrible ghosting. The combination of OLED and ultra high refresh rate removes any semblance of blur in the game. Ranger moves smoothly across your screen while strafing, and he is much easier to track. To think 300fps is the upper limit is laughable.

i bought a second hand decade old 4k monitor for 150 euros. luxury can be so cheap sometimes.

>>724697787
>decade old 4k
>150
You can buy s new one for like 250

>>724694714 (OP)
I like my monitor but it's only for slopping, I have other monitors for productivity.

>>724696381
Don't buy the samsung ones with smart features, the OS is hot garbage
t. bought one because it was cheaper than the basic model

>>724697787
4k is a meme
>>724697768
i have a 720p and a crt. i game on 360
>>724697709
>doesnt know what response rate is
you sound like you play with rgb lighting more than you play your walking sims

>>724697497
neofetch on linux

>>724698009
>response rate
Its response time you small brown loo
>i game on a 360
Well poorfag you should leave this thread

>>724697072
>i want to buy a monitor that lasts 40 years

these retards are hilarious

>>724698320
>trans
>had to look up response rate
>doesnt even game
>p-p-please leave!!

>>724698737
>i want to buy a crt
based?
60hz but less than .1ms response rate. so lagless and no motion blur. what rgb fake gamers could only dream of

>>724698774
>>doesnt even game
Coming from the guy who is calling everyone in the thread who actually plays videogames, a tranny.

>>724698774
>response rate
He thinks refresh rate is response time
This guy is so poor and esl

>>724698049
>linux
damn rip
I heard its good but I'm tech illiterate so I'll search for something similar on windows 11

>>724698941
>>724698820
>spends the whole thread trooning out about refresh rate and resolution
>doesnt even know what response rate is because xe never played a game
>thinks games can transition between native resolutions like xhe transitioned between genders
buyfags are the biggest lolcows on the interwebs

>>724694912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nplefywEFI

>>724694714 (OP)
A 10 year old TN monitor is all you'll ever need.

>>724699146
Why do you say rate instead of time

>>724699146
cyberpunk makes my fans WSHEEEEOOOOOO
playing it on laptop lmao

>>724696813
miniLED does not get burn in

>>724699146
You're actually arguing just to argue at this point. Not 20 minutes ago you were having a melty trying to insinuate Quake was some old shit and not worthy of being part of the discussion for modern hardware. Meanwhile you're worried about switching off native res taking too long? Just play games on your native resolution bro. Unless you're playing some ancient shit yourself and, again, were just arguing to argue.

HDR is a complete meme
>t. bought a HDR 1000 monitor

>burn in

just turn it off when you’re done

>>724699685
if you do any kind of work on your computer, risk of burn-in is extremely high.

>>724694784
a Nintendo switch 2

>>724699401
because I'm not a shill, I can use interchangeable language
>>724699605
>you were having a melty trying to insinuate Quake was some old shit
nta but that guy was right
the argument is games look like shit stretched out of their native res

>>724699825
Quake looks amazing on 16:9 resolution. It has been open source for a while, it has a better client than half the shit people post about on here. The renderer is more than capable of giving you an image that isn't 4:3 while also looking good. He only started having a melty because I told him I didn't think his stupid 57 inch TV would be a suitable screen to play Quake on, which is the only reason I want to buy a 500/720Hz OLED to begin with.

>>724699114
Not him but you can either use HWiNFO or Winfetch in Windows Powershell.

>>724699146
Fucking based, go off king.
Don't let these retards tell you what to believe. Tell your truth.

>>724699825
>>724697179
>>724697273
If you're as white as you say are, then practice a little self reflection then apologize for turning a normal monitor thread into an incessant flame war for literally no reason. Something tells me you lack the cognitive ability to do so.

>>724699825
>interchangable language
>rate
you're the only one on the planet saying rate instead of time you smallbrained poorfag xbox 360 gamer (in 2025 lmao)
>>724699513
no instead their zones die and get clouding and dse aswell as have zone flicker + vrr flicker + smearing
>>724699675
>t. hdr1000 monitor
sounds more like you ran sdr content with hdr enabled try watching mad max fury road in hdr watch the sandstorm sequence
>>724699990
why do you samefag
>>724697179
>2025
>playing on an xbox 360
lol tranny

>>724700141
>try watching (one of the only things that looks good in HDR)
thanks for reaffirming that HDR is a complete meme.

>>724700174
>having a feature on your display is BAD even though its completely FREE
you're one of those dilating trannies that buy a CRT just to play 40 year old 2d japanese games arent you

>>724700235
>even though its completely FREE
It isn't, you pay a premium for it.

>>724699752
just don't work

>>724694714 (OP)
does it cost $10000?

refresh rate. make sure your monitor doesn't stutter like a powerpoint presentation. this seems to be the major weakness flatscreens can hide well over CRTs.

>>724700259
>you pay a premium for hdr
no you dont retard lmao

>>724700478
For HDR 1000?
Yes you do.

>>724700515
no you dont, you can get a hdr1000 monitor for like $300

>>724700549
and the non-HDR equivalent costs less than that.
Although let's be real, the $300 ones are shit with <500 dimming zones.
Not to mention, the power consumption of any HDR1000 monitor is very high.

>>724694714 (OP)
>not 1 monitor in this thread that isn't a memeLED
grim

>>724700598
>the 300 ones are shit with 500 dimming zones
its not about the zone count since there are 2500 zone ones that perform worse than the 336 zone ones also these 300 usd ones have 1156 zones lol
>power consumption is le high
only if you're running it at max brightness of which these do like 1000 nits fullscreen, i run mine at 120

screen to big.

>>724700946
>i run mine at 120
120 what? nits? that can't be right

>>724701007
120nits yes are you stupid Im not sat outside in the fucking sun

>>724701101
120 nits is lower than most SDR displays are you nuts?

>>724701157
Im not running it at 120nits in HDR are you retarded or something?

>>724701194
No shit, that's still a very dim setting. Are you in a dark basement or something? why the fuck would you put it so dim??

>>724701232
your eyes literally adapt, also 120 nits is still the go to standard calibration brightness, 160 for an office. why the fuck do you need more than 160 in a 200 lux room?

>>724701329
>120 nits is still the go to standard calibration
you just pulled that out your ass

>>724701432
you can look it up yourself, every tv calibrator goes for 100 nits in sdr since many tvs and monitors to this day still lose some saturation with higher and higher brightness

regardless, its 1pm right now and i have the windows open 120 nits on my display is brighter than the white wall behind it

>>724701540
Your room needs better lighting or larger windows then

>>724697878
i dont live in romania nigga

>>724701565
I literally have afternoon sun lmao you're retarded

Lil bro trying to force people to use high sdr brightness for literally no reason just because hes sitting outside on a porch all day in the burning hot sun on his ipad

>>724701596
>for literally no reason
for better contrast, retard.

>>724700413
response time > refresh rate
>>724700141
>everyone is me
rent free

>>724701571
>romania
just go on amazon you small brained jeet
>>724701625
why do i need more than 5000:1 contrast in sdr at daytime where black levels appear even deeper than they do at night time?
>>724701670
if response time > refreshrate how come even the fastest 60hz displays on rtings have worse performance in terms of image clarity in motion than the slowest 120hz displays?

also how poor do you have to be in order to convince yourself you dont need more than 60hz if literally 180hz displays (fast ips) cost the same amount of money?

>>724701743
>if response time > refreshrate how come even the fastest 60hz displays on rtings have worse performance in terms of image clarity in motion than the slowest 120hz displays?
how come a 50hz pal crt outperforms 420hz troon displays in terms of clarity of motion? refresh rate is snake oil. pseuds thing "big number good" so they pay more and get even worse performance. 95% of games arent even designed to be played above 60fps.

>>724696381
>samsung
Lmoa

>>724701906
>crt
why yes i love sitting 2 inches away from my display and have a display with dogshit colors and constant pwm

>refreshrate is snakeoil
if that was the case why does 360fps gameplay feel much smoother on an oled vs 50fps on a crt?

>>724701906
You're out of your tiny little mind. If anything fast pixel response necessitates high refresh rate because you can see the stop-start motion more clearly at lower refresh (which is why for instance people notice how bad 30fps console games look more easily on OLED). Input lag also decreases very noticeably with a higher refresh rate. Even with the framerate of content locked at 60, refresh rate of 120 will have noticeably better input response

Anyway, personally I have a Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 (the curved VA miniled), i don't feel like I'd ever need a different monitor. Maybe when OLED pixel longevity is so high burnout basically doesn't matter

>>724701743
>at daytime where black levels appear even deeper

>>724702452
starting to think you're literally baiting.

open up this http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php

>make your room as dark as possible
can you still see all the blocks in the top row?
>make your room as bright as possible
can you still see all the blocks in the top row? just as easily?

>>724702552
nice ip logger

>>724702552
Yes and Yes

>>724702620
you did all that in mere seconds? wow you're so fast.
>>724702601
so true

>>724702643
I used that same site to check calibration a month ago

>>724702662
>i used lagom to check calibration
you dont calibrate using a website lmao fucking retard
and again you didnt even answer my question

why do you think people find their IPS displays have "perfect blacks" in a sun lit room vs at night time?

>>724702308
>>724701981
>i love lying on the internet when proof is readily available
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soH3wnGki0Y

>>724702729
I didn't calibrate using it, I used it to CHECK calibration. Learn2read.
>people find their IPS displays have "perfect blacks" in a sun lit room
They don't.
In a lit room, the black balance is raised, that's why you have to increase your display's brightness to compensate. Black levels are always going to be more accurate to true blacks in a dark room, but we don't sit in dark rooms looking at bright screens as it's terrible for your eyes.

>>724702852
>He thinks 50fps on a crt is somehow going to introduce imaginary frames between the frames and not appear stuttery
Im not even talking about motionclarity here but smoothness. 50fps on a CRT is never going to look as smooth as 360+ fps on a 360hz display. Again im not talking about motion CLARITY i.e. image sharpness during motion.

Whats next, 15fps on a CRT will look as smooth as 500fps on a 500hz oled.

>>724702861
>i used it to CHECK calibration
you cant use lagom to CHECK calibration you use calman with an xrite to CHECK your calibrationi and you need a spectrophotometer to check hdr calibration.
>>724702861
>in a lit room the black balance is raised
not on a glossy display, its why LGs OLED TVs look perfectly black at daytime and nighttime, a black void.
>>724702861
>thats terrible for your eyes
you literally use like 500+ nits at all times you fucking monkey brain you're genuinely beyond retarded

>>724703021
Ok, now you are absolutely just baiting

can you faggots stfu and tell me a non-oled monitor to buy

>>724703061
>You're baiting because you can use 120 nits in a daytime environment
I can tell you're one of those braindead zoomers that needs a TN at 500nits at night time otherwise the colors "dont pop" and he cant see his enemies in CS.

>>724703113
serious answer:
just check rtings, you aren't going to get any reasonable suggestions from /v/

>>724703117
>doubles down on blatant strawmanning
Yup, definitely baiting hard here.
Final (You) from me.

>>724703113
get a 1080p low response time. ideally 1ms but even 3ms or so is acceptable if you find a good deal

>>724703274
>1ms
>3ms
>hes falling for marketing bait
a 1ms display is typically around 3-5ms
a 3ms display is typically around 3-12ms

Any good ultrawides? My Acer went kaput out of nowhere after only a little around 2 years, backlight lights up but no OSD

Is my PC any monitor recs ? (in my country monthly wage is like 500euros)
I seen a lot of A(or is it L?)OC monitors and they seem to go for like ~130euros sometimes higher sometimes lower my current monitor is PHL 243V5

>>724703680
>5700x3d
>6600 non-xt
what are you even doing

>>724703760
x3d was bought brand new while 6600 was bought used from some crypto miner for like 110euros which was good for me and yea i kinda didnt knew what i was doing

>>724703329
>tfw none of them show true BtB measurements anymore, only GtG which is borderline worthless.

>>724702552
>>724702729
>links to a calibration site
>immediately turns around to say you can't use this calibration website
lol?

>>724703951
its not a calibration site you retard and it wasnt even about calibration, it was if he can see the first row jsut as easily in a VERY lit room vs a dark room. Your pupils dilate in a bright environment making dark things appear darker, are you dumb or what? Shine a flashlight at your face while looking at a 1% gray background with a black font and try to read it

>>724704087
>its not a calibration site

this is a normal ips next to an oled in a lit room
guess which is which
ignore the glare

that guy is like MUHHHH CONTRAST LEVELS IN A LIT ENVIRONMENT
>>724704151
you cant calibrate a display by eye retard and its nice that you try to move the goalpost now that you realized that a lit environment makes dark next to other darks harder to distinguish

I feel like monitor threads are always /v/ at its most retarded and that's saying something

>>724704220
Most of it is literally 1 guy shitting up the whole thread with his nonsense.

>>724704274
yeah that guy is the CRT/BFI/TN retard schizoing about muh xbox 360

>>724704287
no it's this idiot >>724704213 >>724700141

>>724704329
how come you cant disprove that image

>>724704356
What is the image even meant to prove?

>>724704390
that ips and oled look the same in a very bright environment

>>724704436
they do not look the same, the left has better contrast

>>724694714 (OP)
>What should I look for in a gaming monitor in 2025?
360-degrees view

>>724704535
the left is the ips lol

>>724704607
No it isn't.

>>724694714 (OP)
An OLED 1440p regardless of your card. 4K isn’t realistic if you are interested in modern games.

>>724704590
>4 monitors

>>724704590
wtf is this retarded shit

>>724699752
>risk of burn-in is extremely high.
There is no risk, you will get it, want it or not. You only can speed it up or slow it down, but eventually it will happen.

>>724696381
MiniLED is the future.

>>724704590
>even number of monitors
>seam right down the middle of the image
what a retard

>>724704590
>literally can't see left or right monitor
>staring straight into a bezel

>>724704590
better off with VR at this point.

>>724704220
Monitor stuff is obnoxious no matter where you go, I've been trying to decide on a monitor with a new build for ages and I can't do it because every chucklefuck has a gay opinion that's spoken as fact when it's extremely subjective

>Dude 27 inches just too small that's like a phone screen!!!
>No 27 inches 1440p is the sweet spot!!!
>I can't go back from ultrawide!
>Noooo none of my games work properly in ultrawide
>1440p is blurry trash, I need 4K IT'S THE SWEET SPOT SO CRISPY HEHEEHEHE SO CRISPY
>NO you can't see 4K unless it's 32 inches
>NO YOU NEED 42 INCHES
>I can't get above 60fps with 4k, 300 fps is the sweet spot!!!
>DLSS JUST USE DLSS
And on and on and on, it never fucking stops. It doesn't help that consoomer fags who buy tons of different monitors and upgrade every year muddy the waters and poorfags are doing the same from the other angle.

>>724705162
>>No 27 inches 1440p is the sweet spot!!!
it's true though

>>724705162
>No 27 inches 1440p is the sweet spot!!!
it honestly is, anything else is a cope

>>724704686
it kinda is since DLSS\FSR\XESS and frame gen became a thing and that's not because I like the tech it's just obvious that going on forwards upscaling and fake frames is where the GPU manufacturers and game devs are putting all their effort in.

>>724704647
Yes it is. The right one is an lg oled and the left is an lg ips. Check the bottom bezel console to find out which one is the ultragear oled, fucking monkeybrain.

>>724705310
That's crazy, why is your OLED so fucking dim?

>oled
stop being so obsessed with blacks

>>724705356
Theyre both the same brightness retard

>>724705418
The left clearly has a higher peak brightness
left also has better clarity too, is it higher res or is that some other setting you've fucked?

>>724705302
>>724704686
4k is totally realistic if you settle for medium/high settings. Not like ultra and high are all that different in 2025. Games like Metal Gear Delta look the same at low or max. Many games that use custom engines operate their settings on a scalar of your resolution. Shadow quality for instance can look great at medium at 4k but awful at ultra at 1080p.

>>724705246
>>724705272
Well I've been using that for 9 years now and I would have to agree so that's that, but I am moving to a glossy OLED at a higher refresh rate because I can't handle ugly ass IPS with a matte coating anymore

>>724705458
Youre actually retarded lmao and way to move the goalposts yet again

>>724705482
>glossy OLED
Don't do it.

>>724694714 (OP)
My old 34" ultrawides still going after 5-10 years lol
Both VA don't ghost still bright

>>724705482
Good for you, but I will never buy oleds at the current price. Just doesn't make sense to me

>>724705514
I'm just saying what I'm seeing in your pic bro, don't know what else to tell you.
The left screen is clearer and the whites are brighter; right screen looks dim and overall darker.

>>724705515
If you don't go OLED for a gaming monitor at this point I honestly think PC gaming becomes inferior to playing on a console with an OLED tv.

>>724705515
>buy monitor known for its colors
>noooo dont buy glossy buy a Grainy matte display instead
>>724705530
>dont ghost
>5-10y old vas
LMAO
>>724705578
>he thinks the washed out lifted gamma due to low contrast ips looks better
Lmao

>>724705626
>he thinks setting his OLED to 120 nits looks good
your photo proved why it's a retarded setting

>>724705661
Im not the guy sat outside
The image is about black levels nothing else.

>>724705791
Oh, look who's now moving the goalposts!

>>724705829
The image was literally posted for the black levels did you forget that discussion already?

>>724705889
>The image was literally posted for the black levels
That's not what you said earlier.
I even asked you what the purpose of the photo was to make sure we were both clear from the start. Sorry, kid, you can't weasel your way out of this one. Your IPS (on the left) looks brighter because it IS brighter as you keep setting your OLED at too low of a setting. It's that simple.

>>724705994
Its not brighter youre looking at liftwd gamma lmao look at the flower and its surroundings
Youre also saying the ips has better black levels than the oled lmao
Youre just dumb that needs 500 nits of brightness 24/7

>>724706301
>Youre also saying the ips has better black levels
I never said this.
I said it has better contrast (because its peak brightness is higher).

>>724694714 (OP)
I recently got a 27 inch 1440p 240 Hz qd OLED and it's a massive upgrade from my old TN. I didn't go for an ultra wide because that would be 35% more pixels and I didn't want to upgrade my GPU
>>724695000
I had gsync on my old monitor and in this one I didn't even bother turning adaptive sync on. I don't see any tearing anyway.

>>724706349
>ips with 900:1 contrast has higher contrast than the monitor with 1000000:1 contrast since the black pixels are literally off
Youre literally braindead

>>724696985
Upgrading from 1080p to 4k will make everything run like shit on the same machine. I recommend the MSI mag 271qpx. It's 27 inch and 2k instead of 4k, perfect size and resolution for today's "optimized" games. Unless you have a 5090 or something 4k is not worth it

>>724706493
You're in a lit room, which raises the blackness level of the display, we talked about this earlier. This is why, in your photo, the IPS does have better contrast as you left it at a higher brightness setting in a lit environment that loses the benefit of true blacks.

>>724706604
Youre genuinely clapped bro

>>724706621
You genuinely have no argument as you know I'm right.

>>724706657
No youre just retarded. Two displays running at the same brightness means they both peak at the same brightness. Lcds are uniform. 120 nits fullscreen means 120nits 1% when uniform. Both are the same. Youre baited by the gamma lift and lack of black depth around the flower.

>>724707137
>Two displays running at the same brightness
I don't believe that you are running both of those displays at the same brightness.

>>724707194
Youre retarded.

i wish they would stop releasing the same oled screens and focus more on mini leds

>>724694714 (OP)
no OLED that's for sure, unless you want to change it every 24 months and pay 10x the price of a IPS/LCD panel

>>724707295
The monitor on the left is (correct me if I'm wrong here by all means) the LG 27GL850-B, which has a brightness around ~350nits (350cd/m2 average). I can't tell what the monitor on the right actually is, but you claim it's an OLED that you use at 120 nits. Therefore, the monitor on the left IS brighter, unless you are also claiming you recalibrated it otherwise.

>>724694714 (OP)
>32"
>oled
do you sit in front of a fucking TV or something you fucking retard
do you even know what a monitor is?
enjoy your burn ins faggot

>>724707619
Its not running at 350 nits retard.
Youre mentally retarded. And cant read.

>>724694714 (OP)
I just bought some Alienware OLED. I'm sure it'll be fine, just pick something that hits the res you want and the hz

I have a 32" 1440p display.

I've gotten some bad reactions when I mention this.

OLED is technology for leisure, so you should only put an OLED monitor on your PC if you have another monitor for serious use alongside it.
These fags who say that OLED monitors have solved the problem of burned pixels are not using their monitors in a hardcore way, turned on 24 hours a day, sometimes running the same software without any rest for the screen for 14+ hours.

>>724707924
So you're claiming both are calibrated to 120 nits?
I do not believe that one bit.
The left display is clearly brighter in your own photo, thereby giving it better contrast.

>>724704213
Nice black crush

>>724708082
Its not brighter
>better contrast
You dont even know what contrast is

OLEDs never came in the configuration I wanted.

I saw 27" 1440p OLEDs and 32" 4K OLEDs but no one made a 32" 1440p OLED.

>>724708234
>sdr display cant display hdr content correctly

>>724708303
that's because you can see the pixelation in a 32" 1440p

>>724708234
https://youtu.be/njX2bu-_Vw4?t=76
https://youtu.be/njX2bu-_Vw4?t=77
these are not the same frames you twoheaded smallbrain

>>724708245
contrast is quite literally the difference between the lightest and darkest point a display can, well, display. OLEDs have true blacks, meaning a theoretically infinite contrast ratio because its black levels can go as dark of the environmental lighting will allow for (as in, if you put an OLED in a a pitch-black room and display a completely black frame, it should remain pitch-black); but the darkest point depends on your environmental lighting. This is why OLEDs are better viewed in dimly-lit environments so you experience the true blacks to their fullest extent. Peak brightness of the display determines how high it can go on the ever end. The difference between the brightest and darkest point is then expressed as a ratio.

>>724708502
nice google copy paste

so you admit that the oled has better contrast than the ips at the same brightness?

OLED is shit for console gaming, it can't handle low FPS content

>>724708542
Not a copypaste I'm afraid, that's all from memory.
If you want to get even more technical, what we call a "contrast ratio" in the context of displays is REALLY a luminance scale, since these are light-emitting panels.

Also, yes, the OLED has better contrast at least on paper. However, it depends on the environment you're viewing them in as I just said as the biggest beneift from OLEDs is the true blacks - that benefit gets lost in a bright room as the room's lighting lifts the black levels anyway. To counteract this, you should use a higher peak brightness to retain a decent luminance ratio.

>>724708712
Black Luminance @ 0 lx
0.00 cd/m2
Black Luminance @ 1000 lx
0.24 cd/m2
A typical room during daytime is 250 lux
Giving a raise of 0.06
Something you wont notice

>>724708841
That's assuming perfect conditions with no glare.
Screen glare makes the perceived blackness levels much worse. Your photo has quite bad glare.

>>724709001
>muh glare
goalposts keep moving
why dont you post your monitor, model and some photos comparing it, at 300 nits next to a 300 nits ips, displaying the same image

>>724709062
>>muh glare
>goalposts keep moving
In what possible way is that a moving goalpost?
I have always been discussing how the displays look in the photo. The photo has glare, ergo it's relevant to the topic of discussion. Yes, in an ideal world the light from e.g. bright sunlight would have minimal effect on black level (almost imperceptible to the human eye), but we live in the real world were screen glare from light sources are very likely to occur unless your lighting setup is that of a professional studio, and glare significantly impacts black levels. This is why many people that use OLEDs will use them in a home cinema-esque setup, dimming the room light and closing any curtains, etc., to minimize potential for glare.

I don't own an IPS display.

>>724708486
>here's a comparison of the contrast between oled and ips using an identical image
>BTW they're not actually identical but only the contrast is different no big deal
Retarded

>>724709368
The image is to show the blacks nothing else, its not about brightness or anything else. You can clearly see the black levels all around the image and compare it with the same locations on the IPS display, clearly showing theyre both the same in a lit environment.
But yeah you're retarded we already figured that out.

>>724694714 (OP)
So, what games do you play/want to play?

>>724709281
>glare bad
>therefore OLED kino only exists in pitch black man cave
What are you even talking about. You sound like someone who duct-tapes trash bags over their windows just so the pixels can “breathe properly.” Nobody’s asking for studio conditions, they’re just looking at a picture of a screen, not filming Blade Runner 2049.

Also, saying “I don’t own an IPS display” like it’s a moral stance is wild. What, are you gonna tell me next that your OLED only runs at night because sunlight is “anti-black-level”?

IPS chads out here using their monitors at noon like human beings, meanwhile OLED monks are sitting in a dark cave chanting “deep blacks” while squinting at reflections from their own forehead.

Face it, glare is just nature’s way of humbling you for buying a screen that thinks it’s a mirror.

>>724709553
based

>>724709468
>You can clearly see the black levels all around the image and compare it with the same locations on the IPS display, clearly showing theyre both the same in a lit environment.
Except for that big fuck off spot near the spout where they clearly aren't?

>>724709608
because its a different frame as you can see in the two timestamps i linked are you autistic or what? you can see the same black levels everywhere else lil bro has to move the goalposts every 5 seconds

>>724709747
I'm not moving anything, I heard you the first time that they're different frames and I'm calling you a retard for picking frames with different black levels to compare black levels

>>724709553
>>therefore OLED kino only exists in pitch black man cave
I did not say this.
I did not even imply this.
>Also, saying “I don’t own an IPS display” like it’s a moral stance
I literally only said I do not own one.
You are reading into things that aren't there (again).
I have nothing against IPS display panels, I simply don't own one so unfortunately can't do the comparison you're asking for.

In summary:
>for better black levels you want to opt for less glare and an OLED panel (with true blacks)
>less glare is easier to achieve with low ambient light levels, but this is NOT a requirement it's just way easier
>true black levels means a theoretically infinite luminance ratio
>HOWEVER in bright ambient light, glare is highly likely to become a problem
>to counterract glare, you may need to bump up the peak brightness, thereby increasing the luminance ratio again

For dummies:
>raise peak brightness to be a little higher than the ambient light levels of the room
>where possible, keep the displays away from any glare

120 nits is what you would use in a dimly-lit room.
300 nits is reasonable for daytime - most monitors are around this for SDR viewing
800 nits would be for a bright setting
1000+ nits would be ideal if the screen is under direct sunlight

Are we clear now?

>>724710005
>hes mad that theres a frame of color on the cup on one image and not on the other thinking it makes any kind of difference
lol you're genuinely autistic

>>724710080
Yeah we’re clear, Professor Nitcount. You just spent five paragraphs reinventing the concept of “turn the brightness up when it’s sunny.”

Nobody said OLEDs can’t work in light, you just started writing like you were publishing The Glare Manifesto. Most people just move their monitor a bit, not conduct a field study on luminance ratios.

It’s okay to admit you like your screen in cave mode. We all have our comforts. Some people read books, others measure nits like they’re decoding the Dead Sea Scrolls. You could’ve just said “glare bad, bright good” and saved us a dissertation. Nobody was disputing that OLEDs look better in the dark, you just acted like sunlight personally insulted your display.

Also, listing nit values like they’re commandments doesn’t make you sound smart, it makes you sound like the kind of guy who brings a lux meter to a movie theater.

>>724710080
>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU NEED MORE THAN 120 NITS IN A LIT ENVIRONMENT IT HAS TO BE 300+ NITS OTHERWISE YOU CANT SEE SHIT
Weird how people used <100 nit (peak) displays like old CRT TVs and Plasmas for like a decade then not complaining about brightness even at daytime, weird right?????????????????

You're just a retard that has become used to having his pupils max dilated 24/7 so if you were to use a display at 120 nits you'd develop eyecancer or something because it looks worse in the 30 seconds you try it out.

I have a challenge for you (not that you'll accept it) change your brightness to 120 for 5 days and then report back. (You wont)

>>724710170
>It’s okay to admit you like your screen in cave mode
I don't. No idea why you think I do.
It's the anon I'm replying to that has been keeping his display at 120 nits in a well-lit room, that's why his OLED display looks horrid in his photo.
>>724710231
120 nits looks like shit for my setup as my studio is very bright.

>>724694714 (OP)
QD-OLED is supposed to be the best image quality right now, but i would look for features like crosshair or sniper zoom (makes a small area around the middle of the screen x whatever zoom you want)

>>724710097
Yeah no difference at all, except for the perceived black levels of the images

>>724710360
also more companies are starting to offer 3 year warranty for any pixel problems

>>724710347
Nobody’s out here accusing you of being Gollum hunched over an OLED, we’re just laughing at how every post from you reads like a warranty pamphlet. You could’ve just said “his photo looks bad because his brightness settings suck” and been done. Instead you gave us “A Treatise on the Effects of Ambient Light on Subpixel Luminance.” Relax, Socrates of Screens, it’s not that deep. Sometimes a bad pic is just a bad pic.

>>724710428
>add color
>BLACK LEVELS ARE DIFFERENT EVEN THOUGH THE REST OF THE IMAGE IS THE EXACT SAME
you're actually mentally broken

>>724710462
>You could’ve just said “his photo looks bad because his brightness settings suck” and been done
I did, but the guy just wouldn't accept that so here we are.

I want a 1440p Oled what should I buy?

>>724708486
So they aren't the same

>>724710347
Still waiting for you to post some pictures.

>>724710603
of what?

>>724710524
Yeah, welcome to tech threads, where no one’s actually wrong, they’re just temporarily misunderstood geniuses. You could hand that guy a photometer, an OLED calibration report, and a signed affidavit from LG’s engineers, and he’d still go “nah bro, looks fine on my end.” At this point you’re not debating a person, you’re performing free customer support for someone whose monitor is set to “torch mode.” Honestly, you should start charging by the nit.

Just buy a 50" tv. Can do ultrawide by not using the whole screen, can run games on one side and have browser or video on another. Watch out for desktop burn in. Only started happening with icons but I moved them under areas that open windows and programs normally cover.
A computer does not have to be at a desk. Just get a chunk of wood for a mouse pad.

>>724710543
keep in mind these 2 are sdr
but please do draw a red circle of where they are not the same since you're being autistic as fuck
>>724710632
your amazing contrast rich display in sdr next to a VA or IPS without LD enabled in your SUPER BRIGHT room

>>724710635
He's more than likely just trolling and has been at it for hours ITT.

>>724710826 -> >>724710826 -> >>724710826 -> >>724710826

Talking about yourself? You've been here for hours and provided 0 evidence that you own anything let alone an photo.

>>724710998
nigga you've been talking to multiple anons

>>724708438
It's got a tighter PPI than 1080p at 27".

>>724711060
>heh its multiple people when they all type the exact same heh bro you got duped heh bro you're so dumb bro its like 7 different people heh all saying the same thing obsessing with brightness heh

>>724711107
ok schizoid

>>724710742
I think you might need to recalibrate your monitor bro

>>724711064
why do you want a 90ppi display
just buy a 32 4k and set it to 200% scaling if you want the equivalent of a 1080p display

>>724711170
don't bother, he's convinced himself that 120 nits is sensible for his OLED in a well-lit room.
He's a fucking retard.

>>724703680 (me)
So are AOC good enough for poorfags ?

>>724711170
So you're saying the non-circled areas are the EXACT same on both displays? WOW!
Almost like the non-circled areas was the entire point of the black level comparison.

Monitortrannies are literally insufferable. Buy:
>27 inch
>1440p
>240 Hz
And forget about any other "feature".

>>724711334
>240 Hz
meme post

>>724711226
Im going to assume you dont even have a hdr1000 monitor let alone a bright display and probably use a CRT or 19" TN from 2 decades ago sperging about.

Either that or you have a literal football field spotlight shining at your monitor so you need 50000000 nits just to browse 4chan.

>>724711356
As I said, a fucking retard.

>>724711389
Im still waiting for you to tell us your monitor model aswell as post a photo. but you refuse to even do the former, which just confirms to us all you dont have shit.

>>724711242
>only about a third of the image (and the entire focal point) was different, no big deal for a monitor comparison

>>724711354
>t. monitortranny
I rest my case.

>>724711482
>he thinks theyre going to look any different if theres red next to the black on the oled, a display that you know, shuts down black pixels
lol you're mentally challenged.

>>724711442
I have an asus PG27UCDM

>>724704739
motion blur reduction is more important to me than anything you can try to sell me with miniled. I would actually rather use a 240Hz OLED monitor than a 360Hz IPS.

>>724711679
>250nit qdoled
kekd didnt you say you had a hdr1000 monitor

>>724711442
AOC Q27G3XMN

>>724711864
>300 nits sdr
lol

>>724711442
Sure :)
I got a MPG 271QR QD-OLED X50

So this guy have 3 different monitors

Why did he need to write 3 different posts

>>724711442
Dell UltraSharp UP3221Q

The "ROG Swift OLED PG27AQWP-W" released in China today, is it likely we get it in America in the next 3 months?

Hes literally crashing out lmao

>>724712003
>>724712082
just having a giggle mate
One of them is true, I'll let you decide which one.
:^)

Cant be any of them because you were crying that monitors with less than 1k zones were bad and you clearly need the brightness cause thats the only thing you obsess about so its obviously not a measly QDOLED. So none of them.

>>724712171
I never said any of that but ok

>What should I look for in a gaming monitor in 2025?

My advice is just don't get IPS. They all have terrible blooming which ruins the contrast ratio, and contrast ratio is the most important aspect to visual quality.

>>724704726
I have a 7 year old phone, old OLED tech, no prevention measures. The burn-in is almost impossible to tell unless I max out the brightness, display an all-white image and squint hard

>Have a DQHD ultrawide 50" monitor for years
>Go back to a 24" high refresh rate 1080p monitor
Nothing supports true HDR, ultrawide or is worth the lack of ergonomics with having to literally turn you head to look at the sides of your monitor or roll your eyes left and right.

I might go back to 1440p, maybe at 26" where the pixel density is there to make it worth it but not any higher I'm done scoping stuff out and turning my head for visuals. The perfomance gains are good and the visuals good enough with 1080p and a fresh LED screen with low latency.

All this talk of 4K 32" monitors just brings me back to using my old 65" 4K TV for gaming, that scale just isn't worth it nor is the pixel density. At that level and recent technology you are just playing at around 1080p anyways and scaling up grainy visuals to fill for perfmance since NVIDIA stopped optomizing and advancing rasterized rendering for AI image editing slop.

22-27" at 1080-1440p high refresh rate is good enough and you get to stay at native resolution and still have modern visual upgrades to games.

>he boughted QD-OLED

ahaha

>>724712867
>50" monitor
What the fuck.

>>724712867
Desklet using a nightstand as a desk crying about 32 being big lmao
>>724712979
Its width not diagonal its like 2 27" without the bezel