Thread 724712468

Is Isshin Ashina the best boss Fromsoft ever made?

>>724712468 (OP)
No
he's the best boss ever made.

>>724712468 (OP)
He's the best boss. Vergil 3 and MGR memes don't even come close.

>>724712468 (OP)
>>724712542
I cringed

>>724712542
out fucking skilled

>>724712636
Fr fr cringe ahh unc where my phone i need tik tok fr ong

>>724712636
Why are Fromsoft haters so brown?

>>724712468 (OP)
Its really sad fromsoftware never released a DLC with new bosses for this game

>>724712468 (OP)
>>724712542
>vertical dogshit Indian tier video

zoomer garbage thread, never post again.

>>724713020
The game is absolute perfection as is and doesn't need anything else

>>724713102
Go on. Post hands.

>>724712468 (OP)
i still haven't beaten demon of hatred

>>724712468 (OP)
it's either messmer

>>724712468 (OP)
I don't think so. Even within Sekiro I like Owl (Father) and Guardian Ape more

Souls games have a better combat system than Sekiro.

>>724713258
Good morning.

>>724713258
gottem

>>724714182
>>724714537
I'm still not seeing hands here.

>>724714624
i know my rights

>>724712468 (OP)
>Brings a gun to a swordfight when he starts to lose
He's a little bitch.

>>724712468 (OP)
no, ac4a occupation of arteria carpals hard is

>>724713172
nta, but it's not perfect. It's close to perfect, just like BB, and is a goat, just like BB.

>>724712468 (OP)
No, that title belongs to Prowling Magus & Congregation from Dark Souls 2, the best souls game ever made

>>724714862
.

>>724714909
None cares about this obscure trash

>>724713020
I am 99% certain Malenia was a repurposed Tomoe boss fight for a potential DLC that got canned

>>724714862
>not doing whatever it takes to win
Coward

>posting shitty webm's likely created by brown hands

ngmi

>>724713020
fromsoft has to know they will never touch this level of kino again, right?

>>724719512
They did.

>>724719696
no.

>>724712542
I found him way harder than the Sword Saint. His timings were all weird and threw me off. Took me ages to get used to him.

Demon of Hatred is a great boss and I will never understand why he filters you guys so much.

>>724720327
It doesn't filter anyone, it's just a shitty Souls boss that you can't even parry properly. I beat him with the demon bell on and it wasn't hard, just tedious dodging.

>>724720327
He is and I don't know, just really struggled to get his pattern down moreso than any other boss in the game.

>>724712468 (OP)
I must've died 30 times to this motherfucker and I'm not bad at videogames.

>>724717129
>Loses anyway
Biitch bitch bitch bitch Biiiiiiitch.

>>724720930
>can't even parry properly
Skill issue

>>724712468 (OP)
Owl 2 is better.

Sword Saint has four phases and two of those are completely pointless since they're another Genichiro fight and the lightning gimmick.

>>724712546
This

>>724712468 (OP)
I didn't find Isshin to be that hard of a boss because I fought demon of hatred before beating the game. I died like 3 times on him but he's still an impressive boss

>>724712468 (OP)
From Sekiro I would say Demon of Hatred is a better fight but we have to consider the cool factor as well.
Manus and Elana are great fights.
I also like the Skeleton Lords from DS2 and the Deacons of the Deep, to me those are peak boss fights in terms of concept, they're just way too easy.

>>724712468 (OP)
way too easy of a boss

>>724720327
He's a great boss but he isn't a great Sekiro boss because he doesn't follow the mechanics that Sekiro has been about up to then

>>724723776
I beat him playing the game like I usually do. Stop being so scared to parry him.

Okay,
So you got a system where Humans are suppose to be... clanged by correctly timing your attack chain into their attacks? Yet you implement a system where one weapon got a dedicated parry skill, and you make that better than clashing. On top of adding excessive stagger resistance and hyper armor to a lot of mobs.
Then there is the dead zone mechanic from Bloodborne, except all the weapons has really awkward windup and tracking, meaning its very very unreliable and doesn't work with most enemies or movesets

Then you have the large enemies
SOME get dedicated camera zoom out, some don't. Also no multi limb targeting, meaning locking off is better.
Most of them get really stupid leaps to zone you, leading to some spells and some weapon arts being able to cheese with little effort.

Then you add a excessive build system with stat + weapon buffs + collectibles, which means all the bosses are playtested around just countering them and deleting them with stacked elemental damage
And without that you literally spend entire fights just dealing chip damage.

I'd say
Its not bad
But its not good. Its missing a lot of QoL, and would benefit immensely from removing more and more of the RPG mechanics and build mechanics. Its immensely more solid than something like Code Vein, but the build autism still ruins it a little bit.
So putting everything in the game next to Isshin... its clear Isshin is actually meant to be fought. Not getting into a game of just using skills that can juggle humans in order to delete the boss.

ng+1 charmless demonbell was too much i couldnt do it

>>724714735
real americans waive their rights for the common good