Thread 724752078

Literally irrefutable.

>>724752078 (OP)
guns don't kill people
videogames kill people

white fathers used to take their white sons to "school shooting clubs" for target practice after school in 1950s kek. deport niggers.

at least post an opinion you even slightly believe in if you're going to make a shit thread like this

Could you buy AR-15s in the 50s?

>>724752078 (OP)
This is unironically correct.

>NRA stops supporting gun control
>becomes political lobbyist group
>school shootings increase
Coincidence, I'm sure, right?

>>724752309
no, it's not

It's been refuted literally dozens of times.

>>724752078 (OP)
>Why didn't we have all of these mass shootings in the 1950's
Good vibes from killing Nazis.

>>724752078 (OP)
I blame the media for highlighting what a shitshow of a world we live in and demoralizing people.
>>724752294
Close, early 1960s

>>724752078 (OP)
Impressive, very nice. Now overlay that data with autism diagnoses since the 1950s.

>>724752078 (OP)
>>724752309
fucking retard

>>724752497
>Good vibes from killing Nazis.
and going home to a white america where segregation was still in place :)

>>724752078 (OP)
Why does every country have these violent videogames but only mutts have daily mass shootings?

>>724752078 (OP)
He's actually "Kill them!" referring to the devs for making such shit ass slop. Game is not even an FPS, it's a gacha

And that's a good thing!

>>724752078 (OP)
The truth is that all a video game can do is unlock something already existing inside of yourself and potentially desensitize you to it.
The school shooter who played video games always had it in them regardless.

>>724752078 (OP)
>"video gayms le bad and cause shootings" gayops already increasing
at this rate gta6 will get banned from release and i will laugh when it does

>>724752692
>posting 15 year old stats

Nice try, schlomo.

If we are banning loli because it will turn people into pedophiles and convince them to rape kids, then we should also ban gun media in general for the same reason.

>>724752078 (OP)
there werent mass shootings in the 50s because less people deserved to die

In the 50’s whites were actively participating in segregation despite government’s literal force against it

>>724752841
>Biden Bump

>>724752078 (OP)
You know what else we didn't have in the 1950s? Social media. Children who grew up in suburbs. Schools with no child left behind and zero tolerance policies. There's a lot of different things we could point to as the cause.

When the video game is prohibited

Mass shootings were happening before videogames.
Mass shootings happen more often now because Western countries are in decline, and that includes mental helath.

>>724752954
When you play too much Mafia.

>>724752931
ya it was biden, totally not covid.

the nuances of the separation of church and state is either totally lost on you sad sacks of shit or you know exactly what youre doing either way youre wrong and retarded and dont belong in civilized society, the internet is too much for you and you belong in a desert shitting I troughs for pigs to eat which you are banned from eating because youre too stupid to not eat a pig that eats shit all day

>>724752962
Holy fucking based!

>>724753074
Impossible, Biden defeated the coof. WE DID IT, JOE!

>>724752989
>because Western countries are in decline

all the edgy americans who used to stan russia all became pro-china stans and say dumb shit like 'the west is in decline' all because they are living as an adult during a recession.

itt: Muslim brotherhood

>>724752078 (OP)
men back then had a wife or prostitute (who would not be missed) to take all their rage and mental illness out on. the times have simply changed

i'm sure it has nothing to do with all of the sanitariums being shut down.

>>724752078 (OP)
How many mass shootings have been done under a gov shutdown?

>>724752078 (OP)
"Ideas from media can't fundamentally mindwash people"
Tell that to the surge of trannies and feminist foids. It built what they are

>>724752662
Then realizing that was bad because you spilled the blood of evil people and are now a better person.

>>724752078 (OP)
You know what else we didn't have in the 1950's? The internet. Social media. The knowledge that if we commit horrible acts, everyone would know about it and we'd become infamous. Showing up in a newspaper headline isn't quite the same incentive, I'd think.

>>724752078 (OP)
Niggers and it's variations are the problem.

>>724753426
yea, and then america turned to shit

>>724752519
what time did the mob operate? what about all the chicago city crime in the early 1900's? revisionist history. its like songs you only remember the big ones

>>724753207
you weren't alive when asylums were a thing so stop pretending life was better when they were open. you just have a cruel personality and you want all the people who bother you to be put in some kind of jail.

>>724753692
trans btw

>>724753168
We've been in a recession since 2007, every subsequent generation since the boomers lives worse than the last and we went from a USA hegemony to a multipolar world order.
Everyone just tries to make as much money as possible without giving a single shit about community while pushing fof hyperindividualism and self isolatioon while politicians push for every mental illness under the sun to keep people in debt no matter what.

You're either blind or jewish

>>724753405
Keep healthcare unaffordable until the country hosting the patient zero of COVID is sanctioned then.

>>724753769
Surely now, 19 years later, we have solutions in place to prevent this.

>>724753692
Now you get to be mentally ill outside, still be miserable and make it everyone elses problem while making them miserable as well!

>>724753937
There are no solutions, the future generations aren't being taught shit because the older generations are up their own ass smelling their own farts and yelling at the clouds.
It's all short term solutions by a bunch of incompetent hacks, and the cycle continues.

Which video games can I play to actually become violent?

>>724752078 (OP)
>>724752309
Japan and South Korea have more gamers than the US but nowhere near the amount of shootings

>>724752078 (OP)
I would actually say, sure. Our new forms of entertainment DID result in the deaths of children at the hands of mass shooters. And... it's statistically irrelevant.

Let's say video games turn 10% of people into mass shooters. That's a lot, I would definitely agree with banning them. 1%? Sure, that's still a lot, definitely ban games. 0.1%? Uhh yeah. 0.01%? Hmm. 0.001%? 0.0001%? How many zeroes should we add...

Just because the media reports on it doesn't mean that it's actually a problem with a solution. The media goes into the bathroom with their magnifying glass and pinpoints the tiny spec of fecal matter and announces it to the world with the loudspeaker.

>retarded 30 year old bait
>500 posts minimum
bravo /v/

We always had school shootings, the natives did it first, the distinction is that we have more now because we no longer put the mentally infirm into asylums for life anymore.
That's why it worked in the 50s.

>>724752294
Yes! You could actually buy full-auto assault rifles up until 1986. Weird that the mass shootings didn't start until after that law was passed.

>>724752382
Don't forget a vast majority of "school shootings" are just gang violence that takes place within a certain radius of a school. it just gets lumped into the numbers to make them look scarier.

>>724752078 (OP)
Also didn't have any SSRI's

>>724754484
She's 100% right.

>>724754601
>Ramps up during the cold war
OY VEY
SHUT IT DOWN

>>724754670
Maybe stop being a vapid whore

>>724754212
Because they don't have guns stupid retard

>>724754484
>>724754583
>>724754601
>>724754632

>played violent video games with guns in them since I was 6
>32 and still never owned a gun nor have ever had any desire to harm anyone else
Ya know, why don't we just ignore that niggers cause most of the crimes and get guns illegally to then shoot other niggers or basically anyone for that matter if you so much as glance in their direction. Let's ignore quite literally every other aspect to deflect from reality. Fucking hate these faggots
>>724754212
They don't have niggers everywhere in their country getting guns illegally

>>724754212
One of them "plays" forever alone VNs. One of them "plays" p2w menial task simulators.

>>724754906
kill yourself

>>724752078 (OP)
Thats why we need rape in video games

>>724752078 (OP)
post the wallpaper engine edit

>>724754936
Niggers mostly just shoot each other
The school shootings that people care about are committed by whites or jews

>>724752841
at least this chart has the courtesy of splitting the suicides and homicides
to bad the "homicides" statistic also include all the lawful shootings

>>724754729
Nothing more vapid than wasting a year of your life chasing after an empty achievement just so internet strangers will acknowledge it

>>724752841
all this proves is the fake coof and brain control vax made people go insane and the numbers keep doing down

>>724752078 (OP)
I think that weirdly enough one of the core reasons why there's more mass shootings, including school shootings, now than in the 1950s is just that the concept became so well known.
Before, if you were some mentally ill looser you'd just kill yourself or maybe try to kill some politician. But now, after Dylan and Eric, every fucking weird kid knows that they could in theory go in and just shoot up their school.

>>724755523
>Nothing more vapid than wasting a year of your life chasing after an empty achievement just so internet strangers will acknowledge it
Like learning guitar? So you can perform like a clown on tiktok?

>>724755523
> a whisper in the wind
sounds like the voice of nobody

>>724752078 (OP)
This is unironically true though, I never wanted to rape people before I played COD.

>>724752294
in the 1960s, but AR-15s are pretty much never used in crime or murder. like even if you banned and confiscated every AR-15 the murder rate wouldn't change because rifles are a super rare form of murder

>>724752078 (OP)
Stupid and false meme. There were lots of shootings. The media just wasn't what it is today

>>724754632
You can paint almost any narrative in politics by overlapping two "technically true" statements.
>Technically true: school shootings is legally any shooting that takes place within a certain perimeter around a school
>Technically true: using the above definition, 200+ school shootings happen every year
>Also technically true: x school shooting happened at y school by an evil white man resulting in 20+ minorities dying or being injured
Say the above two facts together in the same sentence and you can motivate blue haired troons to get up and demand all guns be taken away while chanting facts they don't understand

>>724752382
NRA has never supported gun control
>but muh nfa of 1934
they had less power back then and they still got a handgun ban removed from the bill

>>724752078 (OP)
>single mother pops a cocktail of SSRIs
>walks past their disturbed, alienated son building pipe bombs and sawing off their grandfather's shotgun in the basement
>switches on a 24 hour feed of violent radical rhetoric and sensationalist media
>"Damn vidya games, corrupting the youth!"

>>724752729
we don't, tranny. bongolia and sweden both have more rapes than us, by the way
>>724752841
that's because blm DAs in blue cities won't put black gang members in jail

>>724754601
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_integration_in_the_United_States
Nootice

>>724755690
I agree, also I think a lot of people end up being denied many types of formative experiences, and it's clearly degenerative on American society and it has been getting worse. This is being ignored at large by any politician as it's not cool to appeal to losers in America

>>724753160
that number if half suicides
>>724754212
most of our murders are black and black. korea and japan have no blacks

maybe because you can't force every monkey into a suit. but the rich do a pretty good job at keeping the guns out of their face

>>724752729
other countries didn't have the Gun-Free Schools Act of 1994

>>724752078 (OP)
mental illness and the internet are the problems

>>724753769
why would nazis hate this

>>724752294
Automatic high powered rifles are a meme for mass shootings. You're not killing soldiers, you're shooting unarmed and unarmored kids in close quarters. You don't need more than a handgun.

>>724752618
>Things increased when we standardized a way to measure it consistently
Why are rightards so retarded and incapable of simple logic?

>>724755342
school shootings involving white people are vanishingly rare. even if you go with like everytown or some other anti gunner stats the majority of school shooting evens occur in nonwhite schools

>Data from the article from Mother Jones compile data about 150 mass shootings from 1982-2024, 22 of which classifies as a "Sprees". The data reveal, among other things:
>the age of perpetrator(s). The youngest was 11, the oldest 72, the average is 33 years and 8 months.
>the gender of perpetrator(s). Out of 150 events listed, 144 of them are committed by males, 4 by females, 2 by male and female. First shooting perpetrated by a female from the list is from 2006.
>the environment: 35.3% workplace, 15.3% school, 5.3% religious, 4% military, 36.7% other.
>whether the weapon was obtained legally: yes (in 64.7% of all cases); no (10.6%), unknown/to be determined (24.7%)
>the ethnicity of perpetrator(s): white (54% of all cases), black (17.3%), Latino (8%), Asian (6.7%), Native American (2%)

>>724752078 (OP)
more teenagers have died in world wars than in schools.

>>724752157
guns don't kill people
uh uh
I kill people
with guns
pow

>>724752078 (OP)
>video games come into popularity
>statistically anomalous rise in spree killings and mass shootings among children
>foreign media comes into popularity
>statistically anomalous drop in interest in religion and conservative values
Anyone denying the simple reality is a willful idiot or a subversive.

>>724757889
>emotional fact
>emotional truth
The modern right is so fucking gay and cringe.

>>724752841
The population has also increased though, so this doesn't prove anything

>>724753160
This. Mass shootings are an American problem.

>>724752078 (OP)
yeah it's never the school or their environment, of course it's the video games
nothing to do with bullying, dysfunctional families, the worst school system of any country

>>724757968
Gohan Blanco...

>>724758034
i think when you try strong arming your beliefs as truth people fight back.

>>724752078 (OP)
Then how come Japan doesn't have the same issue with violent homicides? Japan also has a pretty big video games market.

>>724758054
Bullying has existed for millennia.
Video games have existed for 50 years.

>>724758158
The most popular video games in Japan are escapist life sims and RPGs.
The most popular video games in America are hyper-violent murder simulators.

>>724752078 (OP)
And billionaires were also taxed up to 90%, and now they're not (since we're bringing up unrelated stats)

>>724758161
and kids would fight back, now they have access to AKs. you connecting those dots yet

/v/ would praise him as a hero today.

>>724756481
Jews are nazis

>>724758328
Guns have existed far, far longer than video games and these mass shootings weren't an issue prior to video games.

There are more guns in nearly every country today than the 50s and less people are killed.

>>724753168
>dumb shit like 'the west is in decline'
it's the truth

>>724754484
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETFHhP40B0I

>>724758339
So Mike Thompson? >>724753887

Jeez what could be happening?
Must be videogames

>>724758850
Meant to type Mike Johnson but whatever.

>>724752078 (OP)
Rat utopia explains everything

>>724752078 (OP)
this is the same logic that causes people to think vaccines and tylenol cause autism and that ice cream causes murders

>>724758428
what do you classify as a "mass shooting"
also video games looked like shit through out 90's it wasn't brainwashing anybody.
the real probably is always our leaders treating us like cattle and property. and now a burden. prepare for the culling

>have kids
>when they play violent games they start acting more violent
i don’t know anymore

>>724759125
>have kids
>start being more silly watching cartoons
no shit, teach them violence is situational.

>>724759252
>dude just calmly ask your kids to stop hitting their siblings
based retard

>>724752078 (OP)
Actually, video games turn you into a troon.
And then they shoot up Catholic schools.

>>724757356
*smacks lips
You alright white boy

>>724759319
yeah. thats probably called being a child

Can Americans just all kill themselves already?

>>724759508
we are working on it, -minus the wealthy

Mass shootings is rooted in the spread of mass media through technology and the internet driving people crazy, or enabling crazy people to live in an echo chamber long enough to be willing to do crazy things.

>>724757208
mother jones is literally a russian communist propaganda outlet
you might as well be citing putin

video games caused this

>>724759551
You are fucking disgusting. If you could even comprehend 1% of the hardwork guys like Musk or Trump did to get what they have your mind would fucking shatter

>>724758034
it's not a problem. fewer than 100 people die in mass shooting each year. like 15,000 die of aids each year

>>724759668
mordhau

>>724758054
>the worst school system of any country
white and Asian Americans both score hire than any yuros in math, reading and science. yuro education is third world tier. it's why they can't into space or AC
>>724758158
japan never mass imported africans as chattel slaves

The launch of GTA VI is going to increase the mass shooting index by 15%
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The media circus around columbine has to 100 percent be the reason mass shootings ever got popularized, I mean they happend before it but extremely rarely

Growing up is realising Jack Thompson was right.gaswty

>>724759734
>f you could even comprehend 1% of the hardwork guys like Musk or Trump did to get what they have your mind would fucking shatter
Have rich parents?

>>724752078 (OP)
Nah, it's single mothers.
Without a good male role model, kids turn into shit, and some of the kinds of shit shoot other shitty kids dead.

>>724753590
the mob was stopped by tax laws retard.
not gun control

>>724759508
>Americans die.
>the entire third world country if yurop, canada, australia and new zeleand gets nuked, conquered and then pressed into chattel slavery

>>724752078 (OP)
a screencap thread died for this

>>724752692
now post the goverment study of violent crimes among men age 15-35.
matched with the release of major consoles and titles like mortal kombat and gta III

>>724759971
that wasn't my point. but that is interesting if true

>>724752078 (OP)
Trade Offer:
No more violent videogames, but we get free flowing loli games with at least rear nudity allowed on every major platform.

>>724752078 (OP)
Jamie post 1950 vs 2025 demographics

You don't see people ripping out spines of others from playing too much Mortal Kombat though

>>724759982
unironically worth it

>>724759756
AIDS is also american problem.

>>724752078 (OP)
Guns werent invented until 1997, retard.

>>724760062
you just arent looking hard enough

Reminder that the media only cares about "school shootings" when it's whites or some mulatto they can trick people into seeing as white, and that the constant gang/school shootings by underage blacks are completely ignored.

>>724752897
based

>>724759982
by whom?

>>724760113
they are typically done outside of school. dork.
white people gotta catch the bus home

why the fuck does everyone want to take away my fun?

Nice thread vee tards

/v/ has never had a good answer for how giving a 12 year old child what is essentially a murder simulator is Actually a Good Thing. Bonus points for when they say "I turned out fine" (you post on 4chan bro. You didn't)

>>724760113
I still remember finding a 4chan thread about a really disturbing one. Latinx police officers just sat outside a classroom being held hostage. The images of the room were horrific. The fucker was allowed to kill children and there was blood everywhere including a body outline. He even wrote lol in blood on the wall. This wasn't talked about anywhere however.

>>724760082
aids only affects faggots, not a problem. yuros all have aids too
>>724760113
that's because literally no one gives a shit about black on black crime

>>724760212
Because fat hysterical women of <political affiliation> just can't see men having fun and will scream their lungs out to remove everything of fun in the world.

>>724760212
because you're not buying their product.
that is the ultimate truth behind all virtue signaling

>>724760148
russia and china

>>724760247
The kid should be required to play Half-life as a test. If the child goes out of the way to save every scientist. They are a morally good person and can safely play whatever they want. Otherwise, especially if they kill scientists. Gaming rights should be revoked or restricted.

Must be them violent video games and not the insane increase in people medicating for countless mental illnesses that started getting diagnosed since the early 90s. The documented mental health issues of the Columbine kids clearly didn't mean anything, it was that horrible DOOM vidya game!

>>724760247
Ideally, there should be actually good games being made for kids like in the 80's and 90's.
But now it's just nintendo because "THE GAME INDUSTRY HAS TO GROW UP (tm)".

But it's even worse because 12 year olds are not even playing murder simulators anymore, but phone shit.

>>724752078 (OP)
>Guns cause all the trouble
>cut to dad giving his son a gun as a birthday present because AMURIKA FUK YEA

>>724759982
>>724760321
Don't tell me amerimutts actually believe this...

>>724760391
>phone shit
has there been an increase in brap/feet/gross fetishes?

>>724760531
no americans believe they still hold the biggest stick.

>>724752078 (OP)
SSRIs

>>724760025
are you kidding me?
the tax enforcement broke their backs because they had lied about their income to cover their crimes.
this allowed a massive crackdown under IRS enforcement.
its part of why there are so many jokes about the scariness of them in media.
>not my point
you didn't HAVE a point.
the golden age of the mobs power ENDED around the same time as the m16 became a thing.
they only got established because the prohibition gave them a MASSIVE source of income, and then their numbers and leadership were bolstered in the 1930's by all the criminals Mussolini was kicking out of italy and sicily for not playing ball with his fascist transformation of things.
they were at their most VIOLENT in the 1920's and 30's during the gang wars era and when the italian immigrants arrived.

when they got to the supposed height of their power in the 70's, it was through dominating the blue collar industry.
they were building everything and taking out the trash, giving them incredible amounts of power simply by being able to make sure shit didn't get done or got broken in the worst place at the worst time.

>>724760531
So why do you insist on coming to an American website and surrounding yourself with people you hate instead of going to a site full of your own people?

>>724760631
Mongolian forum doebeit.

>>724760247
because with guidance it helps then know the difference between reality and fiction a thing a lot of people struggle with now

>>724760657
Answer the question instead of hiding behind irony.

>>724760693
Not your personal army.

>>724760531
>>724760604
yuropistan hasn't won a war without America doing all the work in over 100 years
germany literally hasn't won a war in over 150 years and france and bongland both unconditionally surrendered to egypt
>>724760631
>yurop
>people

>>724760248
now now that one guy made sure to sanitize his hands during covid
they also made sure none of the parents dared harm that dangerous criminal until an off-duty cop went in and simply shot him.

>>724760621
>didn't HAVE a point
it certainly wasn't about gun control, my point was gun violence existed and was prevalent before video games.

>>724760827
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bwo your american prestigious military record seems to have not won anything since the korean war either though

>>724760659
Ah so it's educational if we let little Timmy get a blowjob then kill the hoover afterwards for his money back before going on a gory rampage. In that case let's take all the safety wheels off and make this game rated PG. But I digress. GTA isn't even the most insidious. Personally I don't think kids should play Fortnite or any Bubblegum Dressup shooting each other games that have backing from militaries but whatever.

>>724760889
desert storm.
again, bongolia and france unconditionally surrendered to fucking egypt. italy lost a war to ethiopia in the 1900s. germany has not won a war since 1870
portugal last a war in the 1900s to fucking india

>>724752078 (OP)
Gun buyers need to be required to show proof of gun locker ownership when buying a gun. Parents who's kid shoot up a school should get jailtime. Problem solved.

>>724760827
america usually shows up at the end(sometimes even after surrender), causes major casualties and scoops up resources and contracts.
anything we are personally involved in last forever and ends in nothing.
also those towers went down becuase we tried to make irak another afrika, a mining state kept to weak to process the minerals they extract.

>>724754484
I wonder why this particular vidya related achievement got boosted and caused so much seethe. You don't see people giving a shit about the other 99% of "thing in video game never done until this person did it", but this particular one got hundreds of roasties and old farts to seethe about his achievement.

>>724761075
unconstitutional. see heller, tranny
>>724761083
we single handedly won both world wars. keep coping

>>724761147
sure thing buddy, they got you good.

>>724760631
It's an international website, registered in the US, but still international nevertheless.
I don't hate anyone, you posted something very stupid and I am genuinely curious whether this is something that people over in the US genuinely believe or if you're just an outlier of someone who is retarded enough to actually believe this.
>>724760827
Troll or mentally retarded
Waste of time trying to argue, look at the circumstances France and Britain were in at the time and how the US has treated her allies throughout history. That's all.

>>724752078 (OP)
It's the internet. The uptick in mass shootings is because of the internet. This shit, especially social media, fucks with people.

>>724761147
New laws can be written. Kids use their parents guns in most of the shootings involving kids. Not much you can do about the adult shooters.

>>724759319
>have kids
>allow them to play violent video games
>complain when they rough house
Have you tried parenting them?

>>724752078 (OP)
like with everything in this country, we look to Reagan

>>724761191
nope. yurop literally cant win wars. it's a country filled with cowards and homosexuals who lose to the US
>>724761210
vassals, not allies. yurop unconditionally surrendered to egypt because yurop is third world and America won both world wars single handedly because we are smarter and stronger
>>724761271
you would need to Amend the constitution, because safe storage laws literally violate the constitution. that was the core question in Heller

Some people actually act like this.

>>724761330
90% of the FOPA was good. very few people were impacted by the democrat's hughes amendment. reagan was an anti gun piece of shit but the FOPA wasn't anti gun

>>724761370
our president is probably going to "run" again.
the constitution doesn't mean shit to our law makers

>>724752692
>pew research center

lel

>>724761221
It was really weird seeing normies celebrate that kirk shooting
Like everyone I knew had seen the video and just... they liked it
People are too desensitised. That was popping up on insta and twitter. Idk if it just says more about how the average "normal" person just doesn't really have empathy. ftr I'm not right and don't give af about him. Just strange people see a raw, real thing like that but aren't phased

>>724761460
and I'll vote for him again because the blue team is just fucking terrible on every single issue.
you can't mandate safe storage without changing the constitution. it's unconstitutional. the scouts already ruled on this.
Also you know compliance rates on gun laws are sub 20% right? NYS safe act has a sub 20% compliance rate with the registration and illinios's registration law has a sub 10% compliance rate. zero people in NJ surrendered a 15 round mag when the limit was changed from 15 to 10. like a FoIA request showed NJ police literally received 0 surrendered mags in the whole state

>>724760827
Britain was Falkland War.

>>724761576
they were celebrating because he said trannies are gross and gay retards love trannies more than anything. it's why I always vote straight ticket red

>>724760875
>people shot each other in the past
thats not a point.
violent shootouts like that were rare
you know what USED to happen in american schools when a shooter came by?
they grabbed THEIR guns.
high schoolers used to drive to school and bring rifles and shotguns to school in less urban areas.
the most violent shit that would happen would be when a bunch of newly retired world war 2 vets got fed up with a bunch of illegal bullshit and violence when they tried to be peaceful, leading to a big gunfight
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)
or when the american goverment decided to side with big corpo on some massive fuckery with coal mining and went full fuckforce on cracking down on the miners trying to unionize in 1921
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

as guns grew more dangerous, PEOPLE grew more peaceful throughout american history and less gun violence was taking place.
there was more violence from a bunch of crazy hippies called "the weatherman" in the 1960's bombing shit because they were mad about vietnam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground
the unabomber was far worse than any other incident of fucking gun violence during HIS time just after, and HE only got good at making bombs by the end of his spree, barely killing anyone.
and then suddenly the columbine kids happen and the news puts the ideas in the heads of kids to become school shooters to deal with being outcasts.
AND EVEN THEN shit was going down as the crack epidemic the CIA encouraged waned.

>>724761648
>the only war bongilia has won in 120 years was vs argentina
top kek

>>724752309
this. /v/ will acknowledge all the other malignant media that has obviously influenced culture, but deny that violent games have played a part in the desensitization and warping of younger minds.
music, television, literature, and video games affect brain development. media shapes the way people think. boomers were right.

>>724752078 (OP)
I blame post-modern liberalism. And no, I will not argue with anyone on this. That is the answer, and it will always be the answer. Now I will hide this thread.

>>724752382
>every school shooter in the last 30 years was on anti-depressants
Nice try though Rabbi.

>>724761746
Boomers were shooting each others' limbs off for real from the age of 16, my guy.

>>724752078 (OP)
>>724752729
>>724752962
I farted real hard and my ass stung for about 30 seconds

>>724761827
My brother played his cello like this and it sounded cool

>>724752078 (OP)
Shit posting aside it's highly likely it's just a trend among mentally ill people and genuine retards. There are also plenty of places for very extremist groups to hide on the internet and be one click away. Impressionable youth fall into the trap and most likely get indoctrinated into thinking nothing is worth living for and everyone must die with them. Government agencies haven't actually made a showing of tackling any of these groups so I'd imagine their perfectly fine with all this rampant random murder going on. Either that or there isn't that many to begin with but I highly doubt that. In reality social media and the sensationalism of news media was a mistake.

>>724761576
People were cheering on the Luigi guy popping the CEOs head. If it's the right target no one cares.

>>724761576
What's weird about it, anon? What was good about Charlie Kirk, exactly?

>>724761980
This has always been true, and it's hilarious to see the right clutching pearls and pretending otherwise.

>>724761980
they remove more and more of our power in state. they will be removed. thats how government has worked since society began

>>724762056
its not even the right, its the rich using the right.

If America vanished tomorrow the ensuing power vacuum and wars caused by every major country trying to take a piece would probably turn the world into hell.

I remember I was try to do a no kill ghost run on MGS Twin Snakes one day

My mother came back from being out and saw me crawling through a vent (Not shooting or anything just crawling) and the miserable bitch instantly started screaming at me "ALL I HEAR IS BANG BANG BANG I'M SICK OF IT" and ran up and unplugged my Gamecube.

Turned out later she was cheating on my dad
I'm not going to that miserable cunts funeral when she dies.

>>724762028
i literally just told you
>what was good about him
nothing, redditor prying post kek

>>724761980
>>724762056
the ceo was some rich faggot.
charlie didn't do anything wrong. literally only trannies and tranny loves are celebrating charlie's murder

>>724762028
he was a pro freedom speaker who never said anything bad or controversial. only actual literal trannies hate him

>>724762280
he said alot of racist shit, and where did his money come from?

>>724762348
>he said alot of racist shit,
such as?
>and where did his money come from?
youtube and instagram and twitter

>>724762392
>youtube and instagram and twitter
right.

>>724762348
Even that is true that he deserves public assination? For saying mean words?

>>724752078 (OP)
Violent crime was MUCH higher in the 50s though. Mass killings happened too, but one on one violent crime was more of an issue.

>>724762280
I don't like the rich guy either and he probably did a lot of scummy shit but you it's inconsistent to think some vigilante is ok and other cases are wrong. Both people fucked around and found out.

>>724762140
That's actually what's happening right now. We're basically nonexistent as a country.

>>724762447
grog is this true

>>724762445
me nah, somebody might have enough of his shit. no different then getting you card pulled at a bar

>>724762445
People in the west are bloodthirsty because they've lived coddled peaceful lives for too long. Give them a war and let it all out, and you'd see much more peaceful reactions to things like these killings. That's the reality of it
There's a reason humanity has always been at war and peacetime is a complete anomaly. I see this all the time, everyone wants to kill right now

>>724762480
>>724762514
nope. ceos are shitty. someone who says trannies aren't woman is based. everyone happy about his death is an anti gun tranny and I fucking hate anti gunners and trannies
>>724762440
where do you think he got is money from, troon?

>>724759798
>son watches all-female fatality montage
>his dick moves for the first time ever
And that's it, that's just how easy it is to fail as a parent.

>>724752078 (OP)
Except it's been refuted by genuine research, retard.

>>724762542
because you're an imbecile. it aggravates people that you act like you know so much when you are so ignorant.

>>724762480
>fucked around and found out
yeah, like charlie hebdo.

>>724762445
nah. Disagreed hard with him on a lot of stuff and there was definitely a lot of irony around his death considering what he himself has said, but if people deserve to die just for being assholes that'd be hundreds of millions of deaths minimum. that's badong

but let's not pretend it's a partisan phenomenon, the right would absolutely celebrate and laugh if someone like hasan piker got killed.

There's literally nothing inherently bad about murder.

>>724762653
shut the fuck up little nerd lol

>>724762652
research tells us that affirming transexuality, like using their preferred pronouns, helps them live healthy and productive lives

>>724762721
Might is right.

>>724755690
Unironically we should be glad their shitty bombs failed, if they succeeded we'd live in a world where they popularized school bombings instead and that'd somehow be even shittier

>>724762721
True! That's why we should put people like you in a cage with an insane chainsaw man and see how long you last, it'd be good entertainment.

>>724762874
Cope.

>>724762701
>comparing charlie, a guy who did nothing wrong, to a man who tortures and abuses dogs

>>724762961
Seethe.

>>724762701
In a way that would be kind of funny just because of the absurdity of killing a streamer fag for political reasons is just so asinine it beges for the terminally online to cheer anout it. maybe like an actual pundit like Maddow or something is a more fair example… and yeah idk id rightoid would cheer it on as much. But who really knows

>>724758365
I don't know who's holocausting who

>>724761895
Nice!

the founding fathers did not expect how mentally ill and emotionally fragile future generations would become.

>>724752078 (OP)
Unironically the massive push against guns has done more damage than violent media ever could.

>>724760301
So make it sell rather then adding more niggers

>>724763210
to who?

>>724760827
Man, imagine the state of the world if Britain had just delivered those fucking ships to the Ottomans

>>724763197
mentally ill people do violent crimes at a lower rate than the general population

>>724762218
Nothing weird about it. People die, it happens every day.

>>724763353
because the "mentally ill" are the normal people.

>>724763197
Numerically wise, the "school shooters" are a small blip if compared to shit like Brazil, where Rio and the north are a never ending Unreal tournament match.
And Brazil is a country where guns are illegal.

>>724752186
spbp

>>724752078 (OP)
the way the news reports on the shootings is the issue

refuted, -conclusively-.

Euros should be unallowed to ever use the term “bootlicker” after willingly disarming themselves to their governments tbqhwyf

>>724763497
? we still have guns though?

>>724763446
Brazil is also a third world shithole and US is the number one country in the world.

God will grant eternal pleasures and delights if his children will finally destroy the agents of Satan (white “people”). So honor him and do your duty, chosen ones!

>>724763497
Germany has around 7 guns per every 100 citizens
Yet we don't kill have mass shootings every day, curious.

>>724752078 (OP)
Violence (bullying) causes more violence (shooting). Teachers are cucked beyond belief nowadays and are always at risk of being falsely accused of anything that's enough to send them to prison, so they tend to let bullying slide.
More importantly, the CIA has its hand in every mass shooting. Guess which agency has been getting more and more power and prominence since the 50's?

Boomers literally grew up with the most violent shit being acceptable childhood entertainment, and then they turn around and act like this.
They had BB guns and pocket knives as toys, an endless stream of TV shows glorifying guns (usually in the Western or cop genre) and age ratings on movies were a suggestion at best.

>>724763682
you have mass knifings and germany has spent more years under foreign occupation than not. and germany invented trannies

>>724763764
Those arent video games albeithowever.

>>724763809
why is that different?

>>724753168
Is a recession not indicative of a decline?

>>724763865
Video games cause violence not bb guns.

>grow up with Loony Tunes
>get old and insist that Loony Tunes can't have guns anymore
Genuinely, what is wrong with Boomers?
None of these things they think happen actually happen.
They go out of their way to ignore real problems, and hyper-fixate on nonsense.

>>724764074
Yeah you're right we should just keep on making the same mistakes and never improve . You're really really really really really smart

>>724763773
>yeah bro having 1 or 2 mudslimes going crazy per year is totally the same as having a wikipedia page with 373 mass shootings before the year is even over haha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2025

>>724763764
Good point. Kids have been playing with toy guns for ages. I had a cap gun and laser guns growing up. Every boy plays cops and robbers or cowboy and indian. I don't see how videogames is any different. Both are pretend violence

>>724764143
How many Boomer children shot up schools because they saw Loony Tunes?

>>724764145
none of those are real. the FBI releases a list every year and there are never more than 14. wikipedia just literally makes shit up

>>724763764
all boomers did was kidnap, rape, and murder women because it's based.
millennials and zoomers try to be victims so they can go on killing sprees and get national attention and that's cringe.

>>724760212
For most first world countries to function there must be the dregs that prop up the owning class
Doing things like not breeding and making good conscious financial decisions threaten that

>>724764210
0, because boomers have never been children, they've always been old and grey.

>>724764210
so you want kids cartoons to have shooting. What else groomer? May as well throw sex and debauchery in there too.

>>724761576
People do feel intrigued by violence, throughout history people pay good money to watch gruesome fights

>>724753160
>>724758034
Once you realize the gun nuts have turned their fetish into a lifestyle, exactly like furries have.
Everything makes more sense.

>>724752186
Wow, they had entire clubs dedicated to shooting up schools?

>>724764437
>t.ranny
>>724764454
they still have rifle, shotgun and pistol shooting in the olympics. it used to be a bigger part 70 years ago

>>724764405
Like Betty Boop? Yeah, I guess.
Bring back booze references too. Kids have a right to understand how the world works.

>>724763197
The founding fathers also didn't have to deal with a hoarde of niggers, jeets and sandcoons

There's a point to be made that attempting to overprotect kids, and divorce them from violence, is only making things worse.
I think the human brain needs to understand these things. It's a developmental thing. You need to *know* that if you hit someone they get hurt, and if you shoot someone they die, and that's bad.
You notice how a lot of these mass shooters tend to be isolated weirdos who live in fantasy worlds? Like that one kid who was obsessed with Danny Phantom.

>>724758161
Boomer parents have existed for 50 years.

>>724764714
>if you shoot someone they die, and that's bad.
only religion tells you this.
we are secular now, and people that aren't progressing along with us on the correct path deserve to die.

>>724764546
>Ass blasted Furfag spotted
Yiff in hell

>>724764714
Yeah thats a nice thought process but video games are not the answer for it in the slightest. Video games make killing a Sport, things like Fortnite dress it up as cartoony fun even, they all have gambling mechanics thru the roof designed to addict. I can go on
So it falls flat on its ass trying to worm this excuse that you are educating by letting timmy play violent games.

>>724764145
>list of mass shootings
>look inside
>shootings at cookouts, fast food restaurants, block parties, gas stations, and general driveby shootings
>occurred in chicago, cleveland, minneapolis, new orleans, baltimore, memphis, etc
At least 70% of these perpetrators are black and I'm pretty sure I'm lowballing it.

>>724764925
you literally wear your mother's clothes and accuse others of having a fetish, tranny

>>724764924
Show your kids Apocalypse Now.

>>724764986
that's why they are trying to rebrand gang shootings as mass shootings. so people will think it's white men shooting kids. if white and asian Americans were a country our murder rates would be comparable to belgium. if black men in their 20s were a nation they would have the second highest murder rate in the world

>>724764936
All sports are in some way simulated warfare. Women don't get it, and think boys are playing nicely on a field in their cute outfits.

>>724760631
Notice how all the responses to this are cope excuses that neatly dodge around the point. They know the truth though and so do you and I.

>>724765006
But enough about your own life furfag

>>724765267
you have a tranny fetish and you are mad people own guns

>>724765083
In that case I would much rather my son grows up playing rugby over wasting his life away on violent video games giving him a fake dopamine hit and no reflection on what he's actually doing. Just like I want him to get laid and experience his first fuck instead of being a degenerate gooner

>>724752078 (OP)
Damn, that's actually a very good point.

>>724760248
This was Uvalde I believe. It's worse since it was an actual Elementary school and still the faggot cops let the children be butchered despite massively outnumbering and outgunning the shooter.

>>724761576
>normies celebrating
what
normies were saying how awful it was, the only people I saw "celebrating" were hardcore schizo leftists because they hated him for disagreeing, even moderate leftists had no problem with him.
90% of what I saw was people saying how awful it was, 5-9% of it was weirdos saying how anyone who feels bad for him is a problematic person, and like 1% of people celebrating it who are the most absolute crazies.

people did celebrate luigi, because he, he killed a pretty awful ceo and I think we need more people assassinating ceo's.

>>724760247
>for how giving a 12 year old child what is essentially a murder simulator is Actually a Good Thing
That's what the M rating is for. American parents being shitty and lazy isn't the fault of the game industry.

>>724759971
>the mob was stopped
The Italians maybe, the real (((mob))) went into banking and "legit" real estate and are more powerful than ever

>>724765495
Eh I didn't care for whi luigi assassinated but I definitely don't celebrate it. that's a reddit/woman thing to do because it always leads to wanting to suck his cock. The reality is nobody would care about Luigi if he wasn't attractive. That's the same for any killer btw. Literally he would be forgotten if he wasn't hot and it's cringe to read what people say about him.

>>724765316
I know someone who got paralyzed for life playing Rugby.

>>724765303
>Furfag is still seething about his lifestyle
Your mental illness for violence is comical.

>>724762440
>Dodges the question

>>724765638
>actual literal tranny is mad others won't give up their guns and open the borders
many such cases

>>724756505
rifle has more ammo

>>724765603
Okay avoid the actual main point of the post and what is being discussed to just respond to a secondary example sure.
Seeing your take on charlie kirk and then seeing how you think only women who wanted to fuck him are the only ones who care really illustrates to me just how disconnected you are from the average person. You really need to get off the internet and speak to people.

>>724756505
Handgun is significantly harder to shoot accurately. You probably want something like a PCC.

>>724752078 (OP)
niggers had dads in the 50s

>>724756505
true, and like no mass shootings have been done with assault rifles.
It's usually shotguns, handguns or rifles.

>>724765697
I'm just spitballing here I didn't realise we were having a 1v1 debate. No need to be autistic. You're on /v/ so can't really be telling anyone to get off the Internet my guy. At ease little guy

>>724765674
you can get glocks with the stendos
>>724765753
ARs kill so few people each year that if you banned and confiscated them the murder rate wouldn't change

>>724760247
Case in point: I was obsessed with Pokemon and Sonic as a kid, and actively avoided shooters because I thought they were boring.
The kids who are normal now were playing shooters.

>ITT /k/trannies trying to project their mental illness on videogames
not all videogames have guns
also did you know that most military games made for americans are sponsored by US government?

I love videogames, that's why I come to /v/ - Video Games.

>>724765990
>yuro troon once again seething about America on an American website
I ain't turning in my guns, tranny

>kids playing vidya games in their spare time are the problem
>not niggers and drugs flooding the country since the 70s
>not the US sending billions of dollars to foreign nations
>not the corporations making basic necessities hard to afford
>not education being harder to afford and declining in quality or jobs being harder to get now
>no, no no its the videogames that are truly destroying the family dynamic and morals of society
How do people even formulate this tone-deaf thinking?

>>724766707
America is fucked in that you can't give in your guns. Do that and the criminals and bad apples will still have guns. The black market for them would skyrocket even. It is literally impossible to remove guns from America, culturally & literally.
So remember that whenever someone is pushing vehemently for you to abandon guns they do know this. They want you dead, because that's the endgoal for the commie.

>>724766707
tbf, if violent media causing violence is such a sure thing, why is Japan more or less fine?
This whole thing really is a specifically American problem (by which I mean it's a multicultral problem, and a Western Boomer parenting problem, and probably a big pharma problem)

>>724767821
nearly all of the murders in the US are done by black or hispanic gang members engaging in mutual combat in segregated cities

>>724767925
In the case of school shootings, it's usually the result of terrible parenting, and the school system itself being ritualised abuse though. And that's if the kid isn't already on drugs for ADHD or anxiety, which is a whole other factor.
It's not the good functional kids just waking up one day and deciding to commit murder.

>>724764145
>A shooting during a meeting for a community violence intervention program in a business park left one man dead and five others injured.
Oh come on.

>>724764676
no, they actually paid good money to import them for personal use. its how they got there in the first place

>>724767821
japanese media was mandated to have ultra violence removed from their media for like the last 20 years because their government was convinced it was influencing violent tendencies in their youth
it was probably the primary reason why anime had been majority shit for the past 20 years
it only just sorta made a come back probably because they realize it was a horseshit supposition

>>724767113
>>not education being harder to afford and declining in quality or jobs being harder to get now
>Not education lowering in quality entirely especially at a K-12 level, and college education quality being lowered as a result of the decline of K-12 as those kids can no longer keep up.
>Not the removal of the track system that classifies kids based on ability.
>Not the mainstreaming of kids who don't benefit at all academically from mainstreaming, because they physically are not capable of doing academic work, and serve as nothing but a distraction to the class.
>Not the removal of lax attendance policies in order to require all kids be an ass in seat, even if they don't need to be there to pass classes
>Not the increase of the school year and hours in a day spent at school
>Not sudden teacher expectations that parents teach their kids school work, when those kids are now in school so long with such strict attendance requirements how the fuck are parents supposed to do that.
>Not the school system turning into basically social services by offering speech therapy, autism evaluation, sometimes literal therapy, and support, breakfast, lunch, and sometimes dinner. (It's not don't offer these services it's by offering them in the school system you turn the school into social services, which is what encourages parents to go to private or charter to avoid government overreach).
>Not now viewing school as an integral social environment for kids, as opposed to putting the emphasis on academics where if you do the work and get the grades nothing else matters.
>Not that kids can no longer go outside and socialize without parental supervision (yes I'm saying let them be little shits and fuck around and get into trouble)
>Not the fact that there's cameras on every corner so if dumb kids want to maybe hop a fence, trespass a bit, or run from cops for a minor dumb crime (mischief mostly) they can't do that anymore
I could probably keep going. It is that bad.

I personally think its unhealthy to immerse yourself in gory media, including violent video games, horror movies, true crime podcasts and/or videos etc.

>>724768024
like 95% of school shooting/gun incidents are black or hispanic gang members bringing their guns to school while they sell drugs
>>724768091
bad aim, lol

>>724768024
ok glowie

>>724755523
As opposed to learning something only to impress others in real life?

We NEED the world to become a hellscape of endless violence, rage, pain and misery. Everyone has committed an unforgivable crime and needs to be punished for that.

>>724768441
Okay ghost of George Carlin

>>724768362
No one even considers those real "school shootings". That's just gang violence extending into a school.
What people are talking about is the Columbine style shootings, where the kids was a psycho who clearly had something wrong with them, whether that is the effect mental illness or abuse.

>>724768432
How is any of that glowposting?
Stop saying words you heard the bigger kids say. It outs you as a Timmy.

>>724768468
Do you want to know what the crime we have all committed is? What the true original sin is? BEING BORN.

>>724768362
it is pretty interesting that no where else in the world has the high profile, high body count school shootings. youd think places like russia, africa, czechlovika would have this, but they dont. they even have absurd drug problems and acoholism in those and much less police/more corruption in those places. and then youd think it would be even worse in actual hell holes like columbia, nigera, venuzeula, afghanistan (im not gonna correct those lol). i mean, africa is literally a continent OF black people, with extreme crime and full auto ak-47s are traded for a goat for a few chickens

but no, its just america. its really pretty weird

>>724768503
lmao, so heavens full of black aborted babies, damn, those dudes are clever, taking over the place pre-emptively

>>724752078 (OP)
Ok but, why is this a US only problem? I know mass shootings have happened worldwode but they're commo as fuck in muttland, why?
>Army glorification
>Obsessed with religion and race
>50+ years of warmongering propaganda
>Poor public school system
>Poor medical system
>Ignorance
Which is it?

>>724768495
>What people are talking about is the Columbine style shootings, where the kids was a psycho who clearly had something wrong with them, whether that is the effect mental illness or abuse.
there are fewer than 3 of those per year. antis just pretend the gang shit is columbine stuff
>>724768536
it happens in south American. didn't one happen in bongolia and australia and in some other yuro country within the last 5 years? there have absolutely been school shootings in other countries since 2020

>>724768536
Circumcision is also probably a factor.
You notice how every country that ritually circumcises seems to have a real problem with violence?
Even Russians, who are hard as bricks kind of know innately not to "chimp out". These mad random attacks are the product of traumatised and abused people who had bad shit done to them in childhood (which is the majority of Americans)

>>724768641
yurop still hasn't invented AC or manned space flight. more yuros die each year of no AC than Americans die of guns every 3 years