Thread 724780086

4 hours till embargo lifts! Can't wait till I can play on tuseday! Which country will you main anon?

Tutorialtugal, but has anyone that made a video done any trade or economy? Everyone seems to automate and then go to war.

>>724780086 (OP)
>Which country will you main anon?
The best country in the world with the most innovative and accomplished people, of course.

>>724780595
Brandenburg or Teutons?

Definitely Rome. Restoring Roman lands is always fun in paradox games, and they should be getting a dlc early next year

behead streamers

>Release on a tuesday
Why?

>>724780595
Italians?

>>724780676
The Teutonic Order is more prestigious.

>>724780086 (OP)
What about America Universalis?

>>724780779
Nah.

what's the current consensus among people who have played?

>>724780595
Game ends before this cancer was created.

>>724780894
AtE is getting a port

>>724780595
Based. Obliterating Poland as Prussia and then converting all of their provinces to Prussian culture is peak gaming.

>>724780595
Sorry but if boobs are hard as a rock, then it will not feel good.

>>724780939
impressive system simulation but totally broken AI that does nothing, pirate it and come back in a year

>>724780939
It's literally the same game as EU4. And EU3. And EU2. And EU1

>>724780939
Expansion seems easier than advertised but the AI won't do it. Rebellions are serious business.

>>724780086 (OP)
Can't wait to fight endless civil wars for 500 years and to do nothing else!

>>724780595
Based. I have a seething about Germany fatigue desu

>>724781508
dont worry. I've seen 4 reviews now and you wont even be able to get 50 years into the game without game breaking bugs

Why haven't they been able to make a good historical game since EU4? What went so right there, and why did they fuck up everything after?

>>724780595
Of course bro. For me, it's Berg

>>724782647
Paradox lost all the talent/programmers and are using engines they not fully understand.
Eu5 will be imperator 2.0, all nations being the same, AI being very static.

>>724780939
Everything about it is great but the AI is braindead and often fails to do even basic things like prevent the player from over-blobbing. AI improvements are basically a must.

>>724782845
Sounds great. I don't want to have to think so much.

>>724780086 (OP)
Is there not gonna be a CPU benchmark? i'm never going to reach the end of the game anyway so it would be nice to at least know how many years I could keep going before I died
>Which country will you main anon
Something in Japan, with the timeline pushed back a couple years most of my usuals aren't gonna be that fun anymore because you are waiting longer for colonisation
maybe i'll fuck with australia for a bit too but without some utter bullshit that's probably gonna be even worse than it is in EU4

>>724781207
>>724782845
This is most of what I've seen yeah. It has basically everything in place to be a fantastic game, surprisingly so for a launch from modern Paradox, but the AI is so completely retarded it subtracts from the overall experience immensely. I think it's going to take a LOT of updates to actually get things fixed on that front, it seems like they've spent so much time trying to flesh out the core mechanics and accuracy of the world that they forgot to actually tune the AI properly.

>>724780086 (OP)
So why tf didn't they dropped it before the weekend?? I can't wait anymore

>>724782845
Which could be worse desu
Eu4 ai still doesn't understand Forts perfectly, forget boats

h-hello?

>>724784931
I'm Swedish and even I couldn't tell you why they decided to drop it on a random tuesday. I'll be at work, along with everyone else.

>>724787116
the studio it's Spanish lil pup

>>724780086 (OP)
I haven't played any EU game before, but a few paradox games.
It will be shit at launch and all the DLC's will be a buggy mess, right?

*crickets*

>>724787116
Games usually drop on tuesday or thursday. This is completely normal.

>>724792526
Okay and why is that?

>>724792993
Because I'm not working, suck it

>>724793470
Nah, you are working

Hmm I'll "watch" arumba play it got no time to play it

I kinda ignore whenever people say a game is going to be super buggy, because I played Stellaris on day one for 16 hours straight and didn't encounter a single bug or glitch. And that was apparently one of the worst launches in Paradox history

>>724795162
I watched alzabo, feedback, and red hawk and they all automated trade and whatever one next to trade.

Apparently you can't change the name of your country. Disappointing.

*dies from wait*

>>724782845
>over-blobbing
I've seen a jap play as Timur and reform the mongol empire in a few decades with his army piloted by the AI

>>724782845
Why should it be a good thing if the AI prevents me from doing that? Do you hate fun?

>>724798580
It's more fun if you have to overcome obstacles to achieve what you want. I've noticed one thing about my EU4 playthroughs. The more difficult the start was and the more things went wrong, the more fun they were.

>>724798580
>>724798758
Oh yeah and it's absolutely possible to do a WC before 1500 in EU4. It's just difficult.

Are we getting the deluxe edition or what?

Bohemia
Gonna go full Hussite

Its gonna be interesting to play in a few days. I'm looking forward to it being fun to play in 5 years when the actual release comes out. Teutonic Order or Poland. Prob Teutons.

buy the game chuddie, it's Johan's magnum opus
anyway, whatever happened to that fantasy GSG Paradox was teasing some years back?

Where can I find up-to-date information on how to play this game? It changed so much from the dev diaries and beta.

>>724800890
There's no Ryukyu in this game. My first game should be to form that. How the hell is such a tiny little island a formable?

>>724780086 (OP)
its shit

this game will probably be unplayable on my 5700x3d

>>724801902
Oh they canceled it when they realized their only profitable games were historical map painters. Hopefully they never get a Warhammer license because that ruined CA.

>>724780086 (OP)
>Paradox
>Hype
LoL.
Rather lets about them remastering Surviving Mars, the game that came out basically yesterday.

>>724803096
Anbennar works, can't see why a fantasy GSG would be a bad idea

I will wait for the byzantine DLC next year than I will make my decision.

Fine cloth has both wool and cloth as input options
so, if I make wool, make the wool into cloth, then make the cloth into fine cloth, is that going to make me more or less money than going direct from wool to fine cloth?

paradox's biggest shill is shitting on the game rn it's over

>>724804283
Who?

>>724804385
the danish rat

>>724781207
>broken AI that does nothing
Time to do that stupid Ryukyu challenge

>>724780086 (OP)
I'll wait until 2030 and then pirate it.

>>724804637
I don't think it's broken necessarily, it's just calculating potential profits over the money spent to obtain them.
There's no reason to conquer anything if your control will be dogshit and only let you get 10% of the potential income.

>>724780086 (OP)
I can't be bothered to even pirate it.

>>724780086 (OP)
I'll wait until Tuesday and then buy it.

UI looks like dogshit, 3d models look like dogshit. maybe ill try it if theres a mod that fixes it

seems like aggressive expansion is fucking insane, probably why nothing ever happens

>>724805782
Instead of punishing me for conquering territory, make not-conquering territory a valid game plan.

>>724780086 (OP)
>Nothing Ever Happens: The Game
I'll just stick to EU4 and Anbennar, thanks

>>724805963
Yeah enjoy your cookie clicker gameplay, because that's what you get here.

>trees are 2D sprites that rotate with the camera
kek

>>724781207
>>724784703
i think you fucks forget how awful release eu4 ai was.

>>724806248
reminder that we don't get terrain changes in the game due to how it'd be too hard for the 3D graphics system to handle
3D graphics niggers make everything worse. We don't fucking need 3D shit, just have good 2D art

>>724806879
Nah I want 3D and refuse to play it if it's 2D

>combat sucks
>economy sucks
>insane AE gain
>nothing ever happens
it's over

>>724806879
>>724807224
Why not just do it like Civ 5 and give us the choice based on our rig?

>>724807390
what I'm saying is we literally lost a game mechanic so that crayon eaters could have their shiny graphics or whatever
it's not just a menu setting, man

>>724806879
>>724807224
>>724807390
>>724807582
???

There is a 2D flat map mode in the otpions.

>>724780086 (OP)
>All the streamers play it early except for me
Am I really the only Anon that is against this digital cuckoldry?

>>724807815
holy fuck are you ever stupid

>>724808175
are you a streamer? Then you're either not big enough or fucked up

>>724808568
> are you a streamer?
No I have an actual job. Don’t like why streamers get it for the weekend and I have to somehow wait for a Tuesday.

>>724808839
Then your sentence made no sense

>>724780086 (OP)
For a second I thought that was supposed to be a niggress with an afro

>>724809056
I think you might be literally developing a mental illness from being on this site. Take a break for your own health.

it has been confirmed that it's over, sorry

>>724808983
I know what your problem is but come on anon, I understood it just fine. He just meant streamers get to play it early and even show it to us and we have to watch and take the left overs once they're done

>>724809056
Bro you said the same thing yesterday and it's still retarded

>>724809257
Not really, between shit like Humankind and Civ six with the nigrgres mongolian warlord there was plenty of rational associations to form.

>>724808983
I thought it made sense. The problem is you.

>>724809408
>and we have to watch
If at least he said that but even then he's narcissistic enough to say "except for me" so he didn't even think about the rest of us.

>>724803096
CA ruined itself, they never needed Warhams for that, thank you very much.

>>724809603
it makes 0 sense as it implies all streamers except for him get to play it so he's a streamer. If he's not a streamer than the last part also makes no sense because it implies everyone in the world gets to play it but him.

>>724809626
Okay fair point kek

it's over EU5bros

>>724810152
I only watch my nigga florry don't care about 3rd worlder shitters

>>724809765
You’re likely an ESL, I’ll give you a free English lesson.
>Anon doesn’t like how streamers get first dibs to play
>Anon feels like he’s the only Anon that is outraged by this
Your logic is obviously not Western, but you’re really showing your room temperature IQ. Why would he post “All the streamers” if it didn’t include him? You would be correct if he said “All the ‘other’ streamers” but he didn’t.
The last part is him lamenting that everyone else seems to be accepting these terms and letting the streamers play first.
Hyperbolic sure, but you’re dead wrong and can’t understand even Basic English.
Honestly, your logic is just infuriating the more I reread it.

Does it need a better PC than victoria 3?

>>724810152
Isn't this guy some retarded leftie who kicked one of their friends from their group they did because he was a pro Trump guy?

>>724810747
seems like it
which is fucking stupid but that's paradox for you

>>724810595
bro did you just mix 2 different sentences into 1 and then dared to claim my logic is wrong?

>>724810870
I don’t recall that drama, but I do remember him suing a guy over Polandballs.

>>724810870
No he kicked him because he said nigger on stream.

>>724810924
Bro, you’re just retarded.
I can’t help you with that.
I scrolled the thread multiple times and there’s nothing technically wrong with his posts.
Again, the problem is you.

>>724810870
no he didnt want to play with grisha whos well know zigger who constantly was looking for a fight and talked shit, making everyone uncomfortable in mp hoi4 games

>>724811085
I never said his sentence is incorrect. I just said it implies he's a streamer and he's mad he didn't get to play early.

Poland
Or some tribal nation (are these good now?)

>arumba is crashing all the time because of nvidia drivers
thank you based team green

>>724811208
So far you’re the only implying that he was also a streamer.

>>724811192
I assumed he was talking about dressel, but yeah grisha was a total zigger who unironically joined wanger, streamed hoi4 from their headquarters and then cried when chief zigger got shot down.
Actual mental illness.

>>724782845
>Paradox made the game so complex even the AI doesn't know how to play it
Funny

>>724811675
Since you're clearly too low iq let me put that sentence into perspective. It's so sad that low iq people cannot understand basic logic and hypotheticals

>All the streamers play it early except for me

>All the germans get to leave work early except for me
Is the poster a german?

>all the niggers get to chimp out early except for me
Is the poster a nigger?

>all the jews get to eat foreskin early except for me
Is the poster a jew?

>>724811781
When expanding gives you no benefits then there's no reason to do it, so the AI does nothing the entire game. It's not that complex.

>>724810152
this is the same guy who shilled and genuinely liked release vic3 btw

>>724810152
>>724812037
The only guy that I've seen in these streamer groups that didn't like it was Isorrowproductions and even he was just "nah this is too easy I don't like it." Which I put no weight into considering he intentionally plays every game with his hands tied behind is back for fun.

tommy likes it
https://www.twitch.tv/tommykaylive

The Spitting Brit also made a video about it but am I the only one who hates him with a passion? His editing style with the constant cuts every two seconds drives me insane

>>724812246
Don't watch the shill videos that came out yesterday, watch streams.
Bokoen has been shit talking the game for 3 hours and Arumba was constantly crashing.

>>724804480
Florry? What's his problem with it
I thought he made a video sucking its cock

>>724812367
Perfectly balanced editing. You probably drink coffee.

>>724812390
florry is dutch, and that anon is refering to the snake of denmark Bokoen1

>>724812435
denmark and dutchland might as well be the same country

Don't give Paradox any money, just pirate if you want to play their games.

heard you like civil wars

>>724812435
Oh yeah he's Dutch my bad
Legitimately never heard about this Bokoen guy
>>724812526
t. pedophile

>>724812246
I am watching Bo now and I cant really disagree from the gameplay he is showing. It is meh.

>>724812367
I don't like him on the basis that he is extremely unfunny to me but thats subjective

Something tells me this game should have been delayed for at least like three more months

>>724812557
Bokoen is the hoi4 friendslop player where they use crazy strategies like no army germany and then make funny noises to the mic when the meme strat fails

>>724812526
buy the base game if it's good, pirate dlcs
simple as

>>724812350
>watching Tommy play a paradox game
Meh. His banner lord and other stuff is more entertaining

>>724811980
How can expansion be meaningless?

>>724812350
>1345
>Constantinople already conquered

>>724812390
Florry's life depends on this game. Then again, he is going to be working at the restaurant whether it succeeds or fails.

>>724812705
That as well but I physically can't watch him

>>724789318
It might be in a playable state in a few years with $100+ of DLC

>>724812705
Why does it take twenty Germans to change a light bulb? Because many Hans make light work!

>>724812773
What's the point of expanding when you get dogshit control over anything that's 3 provinces away from your capital? Land is genuinely worthless.

>>724810152
>Steam title
Really looking forward to the meltdown on Reddit and on Paradox plaza of all these virtue signaling cocksuckers when ukraine loses.

>>724813101
any day now zister

>>724812942
And how long until you can regain control of those provinces? Will they become happy if you build a sewer system so they don't need to hit in the streets?

>>724813154
after the crimea beach party.

>>724813101
>when ukraine loses.
Its gonna be even funnier when its the Ukrainians themselves when they coup the kike and immediately surrender, since that is pretty much the only way this war is ending.

>>724813213
Why spend money to increase control when you can spend money to increase money?

>>724813270
They'll never accept the surrender, unless they've found another meatgrinder to send millions of unruly young men who'd otherwise question the chimp's regime.

>>724813328
So you either build tall or not at all.

>>724812918
Good one anon

>EU5 defense league comes in to derail the thread with /pol/shit and get it deleted
good work zisters

>>724813064
Timmychads won

>>724812831
>he is going to be working at the restaurant
wait hes not a sailor?

>>724780086 (OP)
Paradox niggas will unironically look at this and go "yoo this gameplay is fire"

>>724813270
I don't really know much about the conflict, I'm just tired of these faggots pushing their shit everywhere.

>>724813625
Ah yes my favorite genre of games, million niggas in a spreadsheet

>>724812740
sounds gay as fuck
>countryball autism
yep, gay as fuck

>>724813663
well then maybe you should get yourself educated instead of getting irrationally angry over things you have no idea about

>>724812831
I don't understand how anyone can unironically enjoy working at a restaurant

>>724813829
No just fuck off mate.

>burgonet in the 1300s
Dropped.

>>724813595
He is a bike riding waiter.

>>724813663
Genuinely the only opinion people should have. Literally a conflict on the other side of the world being fought by people on both sides who should be rebelling against their corrupt as fuck governments instead of fighting each other. Yet instead, due to some weird as fuck Slavic mindset they would rather throw themselves into the meatgrinder. While for some even stranger reason. Retards completely unrelated to the war in any way make it their whole personality and try to pick a side.

>>724811980
>>724812773
Coastal tiles give more control, towns/cities give control, roads give control, all these things are good to expand to. Even if you don't want them you can easily spit out subjects who will dev it for you and send money because they have way higher control.

>>724813914
Okay, just keep being a retard then. Can't help everybody.

>>724813663
>>724814246
Agreed nobody should be caring about the war at all, it's just complete nonsense love from ohio oblast

>>724814246
Funny how you assume everybody lives in America.

>>724814495
only people that matter

>>724814495
>Dumb nigger gets told to stop having his life revolve around the Ukraine/Russia war and his first thought is too think of America

Stop having your life revolve around Americans while you're at it also.

>>724815337
Yeah hard to fucking do that when it's happening next door over you dumb nigger.

>>724781216
Wrong. EU4 was all "mana" and "development" retardation. EU3 and predecessors were just railroaded piles of shit. EU5 actually attempts some simulation.

>>724815731
>railroaded piles of shit
EU3 is definitely not that lol
That game was all just random blobbing

>>724815731
Some simulation as in 90% of the map produces food which is useless because pops will always be able to get it.

>>724815731
>eu3
>railroaded
lmao
someone never saw a late game eu3 map ever

>>724815731
EU4 didn't even have development outside of events for years.

Potatoshill loves it so its guaranteed to be another civ7 situation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lDmnl6C3JI

>>724816454
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey Spud-ACK!
I remember when civ 7 drove him to suicide and he had some weird leftist rant how property and house ownership should be dictated by an all powerful central government.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IpjlUznbhQ
Paradox is shilling so fucking hard that this Japanese channel has a sponsored video too
They make a kino video back in the day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26_zFtxiEog

>>724816582
he sounds based

>>724816686
Yeah he should've killed himself.

>>724816627
they are shilling a bunch of b2 literal who chinks aswell

>>724816019
should have made peasants do subsistence agriculture where they don't produce anything tradable and they don't consume almost anything

>>724816627
It's fucking insane how they probably spend more on pr than on developing the game and then they charge people hundreds of bucks worth of dlc for basic features

>>724780939
needs more time but already better than base version of the previous game

…but then again that's what people said about ck3 when it first came out

>>724780939
>Vic 2, EU3 and EU4 players love the game
>CK3 players are positive but confused at the complexity
>SoY4 players hate it

>>724813625
Yes, I love spreadsheet similators.
Except Aurora4x, fuck that shit.

>>724780086 (OP)
I'm so hyped!

>>724822449
It's literally Vicky 3 but instead of magical communism saving the world you have magical peasants that will never starve.

>>724823360
That sounds more appealing than Victoria 3 but not worth $300+.

>>724780595
Based.
But it's South German minor -> Bavaria/Swabia -> Germany
Brainlet faggot way is Brandenburg/Teutons -> Prussia -> Germany

>>724823445
The asking price for the game is insane considering how unpolished it is. The way you play the game is idle for hours and just do nothing but micro the market stuff, if you put it on auto then there's no content. You can't even blob properly because you gain AE so fast.
Meanwhile in vicky 3 you play an actual great power, and even if you don't have direct control over the military there are still things you can do. In EU5 you have like 3 cities and everything not within 1 province of them has dogshit control and might as well not exist. You sit on your ass and click a couple buttons but on a smaller scale.

>>724780086 (OP)
>>724780416
>playing paradox mapslop yet again.

>>724812435
>Bokoen1
why are you talking about the yogscast.

>>724823968
>But it's South German minor -> Bavaria/Swabia -> Germany
I have to try this. So far I have only created Germany with Teuton/Brandenburg and Dithmarschen routes.

>>724780916
next time without italian?

>>724780086 (OP)
Cyprus

always play as cyprus, simple as

>>724824130
It's pretty normal tho

I'll pirate it first and then buy it once it's dirt cheap.

>>724825512
Vicky3 was out for months and was the same pile of shit at release as it was in the leak.

>>724824639
"Next time without Italy." >>724780916

>>724825427
It's not considering you're just paying for a "might fix it later if we have the resources" platform

>>724824518
>Teuton/Brandenburg
That's the boring normalfaggot way, everyone and their mother has done this
You should try it, consolidating your lands in the south then clawing your way up north and beating Austria into a bloody pulp in the mean time
It was frustrating in the early game, but forming Germany as Aachen was also great

>>724780086 (OP)
Between the timelapses where literally nothing happens in the world, the boring ass playthroughs I watched with the streamers desperately feigning excitement and the massive shilling campaign Paradox is doing I actually cancelled my preorder. Maybe it will be good in two years or so.

>>724823360
>you have magical peasants that will never starve.
peasants breed more than they die except during famine