Thread 724799645

>Castlevania 40th anniversary next year
>Andy Robinson on VGC who leaked MGS Delta and SH2 said he's heard about a new game
>MGS Delta conveniently brings back a little playable teaser of a cancelled gothic hack n slash
>It's set in a spooky graveyard where you fights ghouls and a vampire throwing fireballs at you

Hmmmm
HMMMMMMM

>>724799645 (OP)
Oh look, another extension for Platinum Games

who's making it? konami themselves?

>>724799856
Konami in-house + PlatinumGames

OP is retarded thinking the guy savage bit means anything lmao

>>724800338
>Original Guy Savage was removed because it was a teaser for a game they cancelled, now its back despite nobody expecting it.
>Guy Savage Delta is the only part of the game that is completely different from the original when Delta is a 1:1 remake otherwise
>Changed from contemporary setting with police uniforms, trucks, graffiti to pure gothic setting
>Only part of the game made by an entire different studio
>In the game's file its literally a different exe, the game is literally booting up a different program when its launching.

Go on, deboonk it

>>724802204
a new CV is likely coming but it's not it
platinum probably will do a new MGris instead

>>724802825
>a new CV is likely coming but it's not it
Why not

>>724803045
Plat doesn't have the manpower for two big games
they made it more gothic to fit more with Dracula, but if you check the model, the new MC has Raiden face

>>724799645 (OP)
If it's hack and slash instead of Soulslike it's doomed

>>724803487
>Plat doesn't have the manpower for two big games
This argument makes no sense because if that's so they wouldn't have accepted working on Guy Savage Delta alongside Ninja Gaiden 4 in the first place, nothing suggests PG has become a one game studio.

>>724803635
This, hack n slash are too complex, it needs to be simple and easy to understand like soulslike

Ill start believing in a new castlevania when they got something to show

>>724799839
Platinum never loses its lustre

>>724799645 (OP)
I believe but am a little disappointed at the prospect at yet another combo-focused DMC-like when the PS2 games did that already. It'll have to stand apart for its structure; if it isn't Metroid-ish in 3D then it'll just be Lords of Shadow all over again.

>>724807476
The PS2 Castlevanias aren't character action, they're more like shallow action RPGs. I'd welcome a Platinum style Castlevania, and I've say this as someone who's played every CV except LoS2.

>>724800049
>PlatinumGames
Into the fucking trash it goes lmao. Why do publishers want their games to fail so badly?

>>724807476
>I believe but am a little disappointed at the prospect at yet another combo-focused DMC-like when the PS2 games did that already. It'll have to stand apart for its structure; if it isn't Metroid-ish in 3D then it'll just be Lords of Shadow all over again.
Even if the combat is like Guy Savage Delta it doesn't have to be a strictly linear mission based game like Bayo/NG/DMC. Nier Automata already showed them playing around with the structure a bit with a OoT inspired map

>>724799645 (OP)
If it's related to the Netflix series or is a Soulslike, it's fucking over.

>>724807624
I liked how combat and encounters were handled in the 64 games even if I don't think the games themselves are so hot. I'd rather a stationary primary attack that encourages positioning than devil may run up on a nigga gameplay to any capacity, but I know that's a pipe dream.

>>724807865
>Netflix series
Konami doesn't care about the Netflix series; there's a reason why Curse of Darkness Trevor was used in crossovers and not Netflix

>Check comments about the Guy Savage mini game
>"DUDE, IT LOOKS LIKE BLOODBORNE!"

>>724799645 (OP)
I sincerely don't know why people like "character action" games and hail it as the pinnacle of action games when the vast majority of them are parryslop with punching bags for enemies, no different from the soulslike rollslop Plat fans hate so vehemently.

>>724808487
Soulslike combat is just boring, the combat boils down to waiting for an enemy to attack and then poking them 2-3 times in the ass with your weapon, which is whatever but its not something I want to do for 20+ hours. DMC1 is 25 years old and has deeper combat than that

>>724808760
As opposed to waiting for an enemy to attack and then parry it/royal guarding it/jumping through it with iframes? Have you seen NG4 gameplay where you teleport across the screen like a fucking spastic? If you don't like soulslike combat that's completely fine but this retarded charade about plat games being any different is tiring at this point

>>724809010
>As opposed to waiting for an enemy to attack and then parry it/royal guarding it/jumping through it with iframes?
With character action you at least have the option to use different weapons/characters/moves. Soulslikes are largely limited to your build, and even then all the different weapons tend to fufill similar functions. The most variety you can get is playing a ranged build, and you can tell the AI generally isn't designed around that. Poise and blocking has increasingly been neglected too in favor of just dodging. Basically Soulslikes are increasingly becoming bad character action games.

>>724809648
>Basically Soulslikes are increasingly becoming bad character action games.
This is true but action games are increasingly becoming combo simulators without any real depth beyond pressing buttons to stunlock enemies 2 miles above the ground while the other enemies watch. By the same metric we're not getting a Demon's Souls we're also not getting a DMC1 or 3

>>724808760
>Soulslike combat is just boring
Nah
>the combat boils down to waiting for an enemy to attack and then poking them 2-3 times in the ass with your weapon,
Git gud

>>724809832
NG4 was awesome and geniunely hard though.

>guy savage nightmare
feels like a stretch, the original minigame was always about dracula. but I hope not, platinum's gameplay is too chaotic and meaningless and their artstyle is fucking trash
just let cv rip, we don't need more slop after the nigflix series

>>724809648
>With character action you at least have the option to use different weapons/characters/moves
No, you have a gay movelist to play between enemy rage states
>Soulslikes are largely limited to your build, and even then all the different weapons tend to fufill similar functions.
That's because you don't understand Souls games. Each weapon has its timings and stun and status power, and each affects the enemy. Whereas character action games have enemies that switch in binary states between being punching bags and tanks, the kind of attacks you get to use for each weapon in Souls games is actually different
>Poise and blocking has increasingly been neglected too
No it wasn't, you are just a retarded shitter with no actual mechanical knowledge

>>724799645 (OP)
I hope it's a Soulslike ARPG and not some boring ass DMC wannabe

>>724802204
>>Only part of the game made by an entire different studio
I think this is the smoking gun

>>724810404
No more Soulslikes please, the niggercattle audience has been served for long enough

I miss when games would try something unique instead of just copying whatever the standard genre template is with a slightly different skin

They should do a 3DCV game that fully incorporates real whip physics and lets you control every angle, crack, wind-up and hangtime. Instead it will obviously just be the same canned animations and static hitboxes as every other game with a pretend whip that just functions like a longer sword.

>>724810839
How would you control the whip to that level?

>>724810236
>feels like a stretch, the original minigame was always about dracula
It wasn't, Snake just spoke about it with Paramedic. The original Guy Savage has you just fighting weird zombie prison guards in a cell. The original plan was probably for a part of Castlevania to be playable, but they changed it to the unreleased Guy Savage instead

>>724810962
Second analog with shoulder buttons and triggers as modifiers, fixed camera of course.

>>724811103
I approve, it would be pretty cool. Sadly will never happen, the time of game studios taking risks is long over.

>>724810839
Even DMClikes are considered different and weird by modern audiences, a modern AAA game doing some kind of weird Monster Hunter 1 attack system would never happen

>>724803881
Fitting for a franchise with NES origins.

>>724811351
Castlevania deserves a Ninja Gaiden tier 3D reimagining.

>>724811482
Mirror of Fate and Lords of Shadow were a fucking mistake
3D Castlevania is a Soulslike.
It's an ARPG where you play footsies against bosses, not pizzaman combofaggotry

>>724811758
You clearly haven't played Ninja Gaiden Black if you think it plays like DMC lol

>>724812260
I have and it does.

So what kind of gameplay style would you guys want for a 3D Castlevania?

>>724812382
Ok tell me what sword string ends in a roundhouse kick that kicks enemies away
you should be able to solve this

>>724812665
Just have it play like Guy Savage Delta but with more weapons, moves, enemies etc of course
The gameplay geniunely feels great in that demo alone, barebones of course but the fundementals are there

>>724812665
Elden Ring

>>724812665
The thing is, "gameplay style" has never been a problem for 3D CV except maybe LoS for being shamelessly derivative to an even greater extent than the others. And even that was still an alright game. The problem has always been level design/progression sucking. LoI with more dynamism in its environments, without so many empty hallways presumably masking load time for the adjacent areas, maybe a genuinely interconnected world instead of its faux-Megaman thing, could've been a beloved classic instead of how divisive it is today. There's always talk like they need to go back to the drawing board for even the basic elements when all of them really got at least that much right in their own ways.

>>724803635
>character action Curse of Darkness sequel where Hector eats the Styria Council for breakfast
ludo

>REEEEEEEEEE DMC
>REEEEEEEEEE SOULSLIKE
It should be a DMC Soulslike so BOTH camps get pissed off

>>724816394
It should be an fps like that one doom mod

>>724816576
>Castlevania Prime
Sure, fuck it, why not

>>724813797
>Guy Savage Delta style combat
>Nier Automata/Ocarina of Time level design
>Big castle on the map with locked rooms you return to periodically
>Platforming and some light RPG elements
Wouldn't this work?

>>724803635
>If it's hack and slash instead of hack and slash: R1 spam edition, it’s doomed

Are the PS2 games worth playing?

Can you access the store functionality of OOE on emulators? I want another fortune ring :(

>>724799839
I love Peter Stormare