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Anonymous No.724815297 [Report] >>724815586 >>724815849 >>724816062 >>724816419 >>724816480 >>724816830 >>724816894 >>724817705 >>724817989 >>724818218 >>724818825 >>724818909 >>724819347 >>724819440 >>724819881 >>724819945 >>724824280 >>724825676 >>724825710 >>724827030 >>724827360
This is a paladin companion in a modern crpg
Anonymous No.724815331 [Report]
I wonder if her soles are bright pink or pale
Anonymous No.724815390 [Report] >>724815524
too much fantasy for me
saucy No.724815524 [Report]
>>724815390
>knight people when fantasy needs to be a little more real
Anonymous No.724815586 [Report] >>724816106 >>724817292 >>724817973 >>724820280 >>724820759
>>724815297 (OP)
looks different on my pc
Anonymous No.724815849 [Report] >>724817163
>>724815297 (OP)
DnD is fucking dead.
It continues to crash year after year and will never recover.
Anonymous No.724816062 [Report]
>>724815297 (OP)
>black character in WotR is a thief who stole from a paladin and then caused the paladin to die and then stole the paladins entire life
>black companion in Rogue Trader is an incompetent criminal witch and the DLC black is a violent shitbull mommy whose shitbull constantly mauls random people and allies for no good reason but always takes the dogs side
yeah, i'm thinking Owlcat understands black people
Anonymous No.724816106 [Report]
>>724815586
Game is literally unplayable without this mod
Anonymous No.724816159 [Report] >>724816175 >>724816359
Why do you guys care? You cant romance her.
Anonymous No.724816175 [Report]
>>724816159
Why would I want to romance her
Anonymous No.724816359 [Report] >>724816502 >>724816927 >>724817087 >>724817434 >>724817449
>>724816159
She's the companion who you get earliest and as a result you're "forced" to use her for longer than any other character in the game so her being shit is especially noticeable.
Is it even possible to get rid of her before you reach the surface and the hotel?
Anonymous No.724816419 [Report] >>724824601
>>724815297 (OP)
This is a murderous succubus in a modern crpg
Anonymous No.724816480 [Report]
>>724815297 (OP)
I will have you know, Paladindus have been a staple in fantasy RPGs for a very long time.
Anonymous No.724816502 [Report]
>>724816359
You can't get rid of any of the prologue characters before reaching the tavern (not hotel)
Anonymous No.724816830 [Report] >>724816915
>>724815297 (OP)
>stole a Paladin's helmet, that caused them to die from a blow to the head
>never wears a helmet herself
I'm just saying, if she was completely helmeted and you never see her congoloid face that would make a lot more sense as a character.
Anonymous No.724816854 [Report] >>724817327
>another white incel thread
Anonymous No.724816894 [Report]
>>724815297 (OP)
What an absolute retard she is
Anonymous No.724816915 [Report]
>>724816830
her backstory is retarded, why not use a spare helmet, why not just give Seelah money so she can eat and get your helmet back
Anonymous No.724816927 [Report] >>724817563
>>724816359
She is different from the other companions because she comes from the tabletop game; Owlcat didn't create her.
She wasn't part of the Adventure Path book itself, like Arue, Lann and Wenduag, but she was present in the illustrations that showed the player characters following the adventure path. (And Lann and Wenduag were just minor NPC and Villain, respectively, not followers like Arue.)
Anonymous No.724817087 [Report] >>724818334
>>724816359
>Noooo I have to have a black person in a videogame party this is hecking triggering and super serious guys this is like a war on my whiteness!
Not gonna lie, hard to take your bitching seriously, that shit is a problem that is within you and not the outside world.
Anonymous No.724817163 [Report] >>724817276
>>724815849
>DnD is fucking dead.
It's a Pathfinder game, you fucking idiot.
Also she's a boring character but between that and Nenio the redditor from a race that i strongly suspects only exists to cater to furries I'll go for boring.
Anonymous No.724817167 [Report] >>724820948 >>724826661
>World full of demons, devils, and magic.
>Can't accept a black person being a Paladin.
Anonymous No.724817276 [Report] >>724817457
>>724817163
She is also one of the best party members simply by being a Paladin and being able to Smite Evil and Mark of Justice in a game where 90% of the enemies are Chaotic Evil.
Anonymous No.724817292 [Report] >>724817392
>>724815586
This doesn't change her 30 year old black woman from Brooklyn voice
Anonymous No.724817327 [Report] >>724817707 >>724818632
>>724816854
nooooooo you can't refuse to buy our games because you don't like that we trannyfied it
Anonymous No.724817392 [Report]
>>724817292
actually it does
Anonymous No.724817434 [Report]
>>724816359
>forced
Imagine being this much of a snowflake. I'm sorry you had to endure a degree of trauma that even our ancestors couldn't imagine. Do you pee in your pants whenever you see a black person irl?
Anonymous No.724817449 [Report] >>724818164
>>724816359
Owlcat did this in Rogue Trader too, with Idira. Annoying token character forced on the party during the intro and you can't get rid of her until the lengthy introduction chapter is finally over.

Betting it'll be the same thing in Dark Heresy, based on the character roster they've shown.
Anonymous No.724817457 [Report]
>>724817276
Or you can also hire a Mercenary Paladin, call him Sir.Thundercock, and just use him instead.
Anonymous No.724817563 [Report] >>724817830
>>724816927
She's no different at all though
Anonymous No.724817705 [Report] >>724819889
>>724815297 (OP)
You know that the paladin in Diablo 2 is a nigger, right? Were you even born then?
Anonymous No.724817707 [Report] >>724817850
>>724817327
what's it like being a adult virgin with no future prospects?
Anonymous No.724817775 [Report] >>724817845 >>724818132 >>724824331
The part about Seelah that bothers me is her personality leans more towards chaotic good than Lawful Good like a Paladin should be, like she's friends with a thief and was one, etc.
Like I think if you tried to make the same decisions she does you'd change your alignment and lose your paladin powers.
Anonymous No.724817830 [Report] >>724817908
>>724817563
So she doesn't have the least amount of story among all the companions? Good to know you played a different game than I did.
Anonymous No.724817845 [Report]
>>724817775
>Like I think if you tried to make the same decisions she does you'd change your alignment and lose your paladin powers.
No, not really. You know you can agree with her right? Try and see if your alignment changes
Anonymous No.724817846 [Report] >>724818039
>724817087
>724817434
nigger and/or jeet
either way: eeeeeeeewwwwwwwww poopy skinned!!!
Anonymous No.724817850 [Report] >>724818279
>>724817707
Saying this shit while you cry about video game characters on /v/, you tell us.
Anonymous No.724817908 [Report]
>>724817830
No? That would easily be Nenio
Anonymous No.724817973 [Report] >>724820276
>>724815586
AI SLOP
Anonymous No.724817989 [Report]
>>724815297 (OP)
There isn't even a good joke to be made here.
Anonymous No.724818039 [Report]
>>724817846
Kek I just made your pee dribble out
Anonymous No.724818132 [Report]
>>724817775
I suspect her personality serves to exemplify that not all Paladins are people who avoid having fun and who will punish you just because you jaywalk.
This used to be a real problem in tabletop games, with people interpreting Paladins as hallway monitors who wouldn't allow other party members to have fun because "My lawful nature says that having fun is a sin! Want to invade the mansion of mayor at night because you think he is working with the villain? NAY!".
Anonymous No.724818164 [Report] >>724818280 >>724819003
>>724817449
it's really a shame that you are forced to spend 30 minutes of a 100+ hour game with a companion you don't enjoy
Anonymous No.724818218 [Report]
>>724815297 (OP)
Why are incels too retarded to make videogames?
Anonymous No.724818279 [Report]
>>724817850
who's crying about a black character now?
why gaslight?
Anonymous No.724818280 [Report] >>724818707
>>724818164
I know this is a bait thread, but how a game starts does set the tone for the rest of it and informs where development priorities lay. Token characters are shallow and do a disservice to the races they're meant to represent, and while I admit that's not why most people find them annoying, it is disingenuous to defend the practice.
Anonymous No.724818334 [Report] >>724818713
>>724817087
You know, there were some radical cultural critics who, in their times considered that seeking solace from the alienation wrought on you by the modern world through the medium of mass culture was to put it academically: "some gay-ass shit for nazi pissboys" and that "if they weren't pussies they would go out there and stop feeling threatened by pixels on a screen"
I'd say 1 thread out of 3 on /v/ is in furtherance to the arguments put forward by the frankfurt school lads.
Anonymous No.724818632 [Report]
>>724817327
Nigger please, don't pretend you had any interest in this kind of game to begin with. You're literally only here to whine about it having a black person in it.
Anonymous No.724818707 [Report] >>724821013 >>724821907
>>724818280
>how a game starts does set the tone for the rest of it
yeah because of all the dark eldar, necrons, and genestealers in the prologue really set the whole tone
Anonymous No.724818713 [Report] >>724819796
>>724818334
Maybe you need to lay of the politics bullshit buddy
Anonymous No.724818825 [Report]
>>724815297 (OP)
>in a modern crpg
This character was created in 2007.
Anonymous No.724818909 [Report] >>724818995 >>724819323
>>724815297 (OP)
why is "inclusiveness" always putting black people in white settings but never white people in black settings
Anonymous No.724818995 [Report]
>>724818909
If you're genuinely asking for white people in black settings that's not something that doesn't exist so don't worry, but you don't really care about that I'd wager.
Anonymous No.724819003 [Report] >>724819230
>>724818164
I wish the prologue was only 30 minutes, it's 2 hours at least assuming you actually read
Anonymous No.724819230 [Report]
>>724819003
skill issue
Anonymous No.724819284 [Report] >>724820043
I realize this is /v/ and we're talking about a black woman so everyone is going to make it about being black and being a woman, but I think it's important to keep in mind that Seelah is such a bad character with a stupid backstory and annoying voice who acts like a retard but not in an endearing way, so even if she was a white man the character would still be shit
Anonymous No.724819323 [Report] >>724819542 >>724821103
>>724818909
What's a Black setting?
Anonymous No.724819347 [Report]
>>724815297 (OP)
Not the aesthetic I'm into. I prefer this for female paladin.
Anonymous No.724819389 [Report] >>724819594 >>724819691 >>724819705 >>724819945 >>724824186
I see no people complaining about Camellia being mandatory...
Weird.
Anonymous No.724819440 [Report]
>>724815297 (OP)
She's a nice lady once you get to know her. A bit of a dumbass with a heart of gold, trying to do her best to make the world a little better. I found her a good fit for a default good guy playthrough.
Anonymous No.724819542 [Report]
>>724819323
Paladins in da hood. Woop woop

By the holy light of GAWHD shall Shawniqua get you dem programs! She knows a cleric down at the county office that can get you hooked up.
Anonymous No.724819594 [Report] >>724819840
>>724819389
Because she isn't
Anonymous No.724819691 [Report]
>>724819389
who?
Anonymous No.724819705 [Report]
>>724819389
I don't like her face.
Anonymous No.724819796 [Report]
>>724818713
no thank you "buddy", people like OP and half of this thread made the point for me by being alienated wretches. I'd say it's because you are removed from political life (which is not the flacid spectacle of liberal democracy that you think is the alpha and omega of politic) that this kind of discussion emerge. Because you've intellectually retreated towards a cultural commodity as a chanel for what remains of your desire for a political life. You say lay-off the politic and all I have to say is that I've not yet completely given up on being human (ie: "a political animal per Aristotle) as opposed to you, apparently.
Anonymous No.724819840 [Report]
>>724819594
Like Seelah, she is mandatory for the Prologue.
Anonymous No.724819881 [Report]
>>724815297 (OP)
No, that's a cavalier companion.
>he doesn't want two tanks for the price of one
Anonymous No.724819889 [Report] >>724820572
>>724817705
>unc’s nostalgic gambling addiction simulator 2
lmao dude thought he had a point huh?
Anonymous No.724819945 [Report]
>>724815297 (OP)
>>724819389
Doesn't matter to me, they are both benchwarmers post prologue.
Anonymous No.724820043 [Report]
>>724819284
It sort of goes hand in hand though. The same type of writers that decide to make the paladin a black woman are typically the ones who write incredibly cloying or contrived backstories and insufferable dialog.

But yes you're right, there have been plenty of badly written paladins that have been neither black nor female. But that added layer of "look how different/empowering my character is!" does make it just that much more irritating when it ISN'T done well. Which, again, is all too often the case.
Anonymous No.724820048 [Report] >>724820183 >>724820313
i gotta play this game but its such a time investment I got not far when I played it the first time several years ago but it takes me so long to decide what to make
Anonymous No.724820183 [Report]
>>724820048
it's unbearably slow pacing. The first act of the game is some 30 hour long bullshit before the journey really gets it going
Anonymous No.724820276 [Report]
>>724817973
Is it? I couldn't tell this time
Anonymous No.724820280 [Report] >>724820357 >>724820702 >>724821165 >>724826906
>>724815586
legitimate downgrade
>i hate naggers!
>give me the most impossibly fucking generic focus-tested lady knight you've ever seen
>also AI sloppa
Anonymous No.724820313 [Report] >>724820909
>>724820048
I don't recommend this game for anyone who is a beginner in CRPGs for that reason. There's too much to decide and too many systems to learn. It's really not beginner-friendly.
People should try something like Divinity 2 first.
Anonymous No.724820357 [Report] >>724820581
>>724820280
This complain always pops up whenever someone posts that portrait and it's really funny because it can be applied to the original art too, Seelah is just a generic knight (but black) and the artwork is so terrible it genuinely looks like AI, the more you look at it the worse it looks
Anonymous No.724820570 [Report]
And then there's me, who couldn't even tell that pic was AI genned
Anonymous No.724820572 [Report]
>>724819889
You mean he didn't?
>Your bullshit is manufactures moral hystieria over inane crap that means fucking nothing and the points you cry your eyes out over isn't even a new thing
Seems pretty relevant to me
Anonymous No.724820581 [Report] >>724820652
>>724820357
I don't think anybody else is mistaking the black woman art for AI, doesn't have the indistinct "softness" of AI art or confusion on the background or mismatched armor details.
Anonymous No.724820652 [Report]
>>724820581
Look closely at her sheath and her cape
Anonymous No.724820702 [Report]
>>724820280
I for one welcome our new AI overlords.
Anonymous No.724820759 [Report] >>724824074
>>724815586
Wait, I think I'm starting to see it. The belt thingy right?
Anonymous No.724820909 [Report] >>724825882
>>724820313
O I'm not new really I beat the first pathfinder on challenging, have done baldurs gate 1+2 and I understand the system I'm just autistic and cannot make decisions

Despite the achievement there I got up to I think not too long after recruiting Arueshalae? So I did see some of the game at least I just spent 100 hours picking a character to make first before making a human fighter
Anonymous No.724820948 [Report]
>>724817167
Correct.
>fully loaded 5 series.png
Anonymous No.724821013 [Report]
>>724818707
>dark eldar, necrons, and genestealers in the prologue
Thanks for letting us know you didn't play the game, makes sense
Anonymous No.724821103 [Report] >>724821290
>>724819323
Detroit
Anonymous No.724821165 [Report] >>724821468
>>724820280
>focus-tested lady knight
A focus-test would produce a better portrait, the wokeless wrath mod has good intentions on the surface but the execution is just culture-war bait. Its unfortunate there's a lot of mods like this, that could actually be good mods if the modders weren't just making them to bait a reaction.
Anonymous No.724821290 [Report]
>>724821103
>charge + pounce
Terrifying
Anonymous No.724821468 [Report] >>724822708
>>724821165
The subject matter in and of itself kind-of ensures nobody's gonna really be interested in it but culture war baiters
Anonymous No.724821907 [Report]
>>724818707
That has nothing to do with setting the tone
Anonymous No.724822708 [Report] >>724823649
>>724821468
Well that's the point of the unavoidable token character in the first place. Its meant to get a reaction, and the reaction is meant to get a reaction.

This is inherently why these are bad characters and why people don't like them, outside of 'culture warriors' and their baiters. No one wants an atmosphere that's constantly orbiting these topics.

As an example, I very rarely see anyone complain about Ekundayo from Kingmaker. Some sure but never like with Seelah or Idira.
Anonymous No.724823649 [Report] >>724823740
>>724822708
>Ekundayo
still in my S tier for video game negroes
Anonymous No.724823740 [Report] >>724824306
>>724823649
Exactly. If they were interested in writing Seelah cool or hot they would, but that's not the intention of that character. Ekun meanwhile is written to be an actual character and ends up liked.
Anonymous No.724823832 [Report]
>I hate all black people
Okay but why did this need to be a thread?
Anonymous No.724824074 [Report]
>>724820759
And the hair that loops.
And the lack of symmetry on the pauldrons and gauntlets.
And the lighting that doesn’t stay consistent in which direction it’s coming from.
Anonymous No.724824186 [Report]
>>724819389
she isn't helpful at all to be honest, she's a liability
Anonymous No.724824260 [Report]
I'm more offended by the unrealistic bulky armor and weapons than the skin color desu.
Warhammer and Warcraft ruined fantasy art. I'm not a realism fag but its a slippery slope where everything looks cartoonish and silly and eventually you end up with every element of the game looking like overdesigned garbage. Every weapon glows like a light sabre. Spells become flashy RTX enabled technicolor gas clouds and even melee classes have stupid AoE abilities that makes combat encounters an unreadale retarded rainbow of bullshit.
Nothing is special or interesting anymore.
Anonymous No.724824280 [Report] >>724826807
>>724815297 (OP)
This is a druid companion in a modern pseud-crpg
Anonymous No.724824306 [Report] >>724824648
>>724823740
You're a retard, Seelah is a companion because this is a story where the church of Iomedae leads a crusade to fight against demons, OF COURSE they're going to use the iconic paladin character that worships Iomedae as a companion, there is nothing "token" about her, she's just as much as a character as Ekundayo
Anonymous No.724824331 [Report] >>724824404 >>724824468
>>724817775
Paladins having to be exclusively lawful good even when following a chaotic deity like desna was always stupid though
Anonymous No.724824404 [Report]
>>724824331
Chaotic deities don't have paladins
Anonymous No.724824468 [Report]
>>724824331
Do Paladins of Desna exist in the tabletop? You can't make one in the games.
Anonymous No.724824601 [Report]
>>724816419
>This is a murderous succubus in a modern crpg
Isn't the whole purpose of the succubus to seduce men and then eat their souls? I would imagine that works better if she looks appealing and not some ugly ass demon with mouth full of sharp teeth.
Anonymous No.724824648 [Report] >>724824923
>>724824306
So they cherry picked the one black paladin from the AP to fit the token role. Maybe if you played the game in an ESL translation you didn't notice her voice acting is also meant to drive home the feeling that she's a modern day black woman.
Anonymous No.724824923 [Report] >>724825094
>>724824648
>So they cherry picked the one black paladin from the AP
No, Pathfinder games have iconics as companions, Seelah is the most natural fit for a campaign like this
>you didn't notice her voice acting
Bad voice acting doesn't suddenly make her token
There is nothing token about her, she's in because she's a paladin of Iomedae and her story has absolutely nothing to do with her race, but with her competence and beliefs as a paladin
Anonymous No.724825094 [Report] >>724825156
>>724824923
That's all well and good but they still frontloaded her in an unskippable segment of the game without being able to drop her from the party without using mods. They could've put the iconic paladin of Iomedae in later, like they did with Sosiel for instance, who is also seldomly complained about because he isn't forced into the party right out of the gate.
Anonymous No.724825156 [Report] >>724825349 >>724825580
>>724825094
It's literally just the prologue, the shortest part of the game, and none of the prologue characters can be dismissed
Anonymous No.724825349 [Report]
>>724825156
It is over-long actually, the entire cave system, mongrel village, and secret underground temple is immediately followed up by a slog though a fortress in the city before finally getting to the tavern. WotR is the most dungeon-crawl heavy of Owlcat's games and the prologue is no exception, even if it isn't as long as the Midnight Fane>Ivory Sanctum segment.
Anonymous No.724825580 [Report] >>724825668 >>724826253
>>724825156
you can kill Seelah in act 3 if you take her to the Molten Scar and try to kill Jannah
Anonymous No.724825668 [Report] >>724825912 >>724826253
>>724825580
And you can also kill her as a demon or swarm, funnily enough the previous iconic (Amiri) could never die, and even if you fucked up her questline she simply left your party in the final dungeon. But you never see anyone complain about that.
Anonymous No.724825676 [Report]
>>724815297 (OP)
Wow I didn't know that, I only play post-modern games myself
Anonymous No.724825696 [Report]
Can thin-skinned American faggots just have your civil war already and stop posting retarded bullshit?
Anonymous No.724825710 [Report]
>>724815297 (OP)
she looks cute and strong
i'd wife her
Anonymous No.724825882 [Report]
>>724820909
If it helps you, try to choose a thematic build. Like Cleric+Angel, or something like that.
Anonymous No.724825912 [Report] >>724826387
>>724825668
Man I forgot about Amiri's existence, I never used that bitch.
Anonymous No.724826253 [Report]
>>724825580
>>724825668
Are these bot responses? Or just ESLs?
I don't like Seelah either but this seems to miss the context pretty hard.
Anonymous No.724826387 [Report]
>>724825912
Shit taste
Anonymous No.724826661 [Report]
>>724817167
Racists have the abstraction capabilities of a dog
Anonymous No.724826807 [Report]
>>724824280
I should hire mike Pollock and halsin's VA to dub a raunchy erotic novel between Ulbrig and Halsin
Anonymous No.724826906 [Report] >>724827056
>>724820280
If I could pick between ai robots or blacks I'd pick the robots
The decrease in crime would be outstanding
Anonymous No.724827030 [Report]
>>724815297 (OP)

she would be fine if her head wasn't so cartoonishly wide goddamn what the fuck
Anonymous No.724827056 [Report]
>>724826906
i think there was a bullet with "uwu" on it about this recently
Anonymous No.724827360 [Report]
>>724815297 (OP)
i'm just tired