Thread 724816283

ITT: NO NO NO I WANT TO BE REWARDED FOR BEATING HARD MODE BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUSH MYSELF TO IMPROVE
Git gud, or install cheats like the jeets you are.

>>724816283 (OP)
That's how firearms actually work retard.

>>724816283 (OP)
>lowest difficulty is just 'dude, what if you can't die?'

>>724816694
Yeah yeah we all know you started gaming with the 7th gen and don't know any better, let the adults talk.

>>724816603
>complaints about one shots
>look inside
>it's actually three shots with ample breathing room to use the 15+ healing sources

>>724816283 (OP)
>hardest difficulty nerfs your exp so you have to grind 5x as much

>>724816603
What game?

>>724816283 (OP)
I'm playing NG4 on Master Ninja right now and it's basically this. I'm going to see it through since I'm already 2/3's of the way and it honestly hasn't been that bad but I doubt I'm ever going to replay it on this difficulty for fun.

>>724816283 (OP)
>hardest difficulty mixes up the enemy placement and gives them new attacks and tactics

>>724817716
Platicum just copy/pasted TN's MN from smegma 2, also you deserve to get raped and gaped for playing this slop.

>>724817875
How is it slop?

>>724816283 (OP)
>need to beat normal to unlock hard
>need to beat hard to unlock hardest
>beating hardest earns you nothing
>no NG+ mode

>>724817932
I just gave you an example, fuck off back to your shill thread platicuck.

>wowe guys MUH AI SO ADVANCED NOW
>Civilization and other such games AIs still cant grasp simple fucking troop movement/economy etc. so the higher difficulties are just it cheating
>turning every game into a "survive the stoneage where they throw 5 million men armies of spearchuckers at you, then you win"
>this is usually acomplished by funneling them against a fortress or shit since going around it would take them slightly longer

>>724818364
me in the back

>>724817875
>you deserve to get raped and gaped for playing this slop.
You are deranged.

>>724816603
>>724817645
>>724818364
I feel like most 4X games nowadays have not been fucking played by their creators for more then 5-10 hours at best

>>724818028
>>need to beat normal to unlock hard
Still the worst shit ever.
Once I beat Normal I will not feel like replaying again instantly, especially if it's a long game and it was a mindless slog. Most likely I already picked up several bad habits too, so the switch to Hard will feel like trying to rewire myself for something that might not even be the highest difficulty. Fuck it, don't do this.
>need to beat hard to unlock hardest
Ok sure, I can get behind this one. I got a decently challenging experience instantly and refined my approach through trial-and-error, so I might be curious about whether that will carry me through the highest difficulty.
Also typically this is what devs consider it to be an extreme challenge at the limits of player skill, I go in expecting to get my ass kicked until I don't, or stress the mechanics until the game bends over. I understand this might not represent the only intended game experience so it has any right to be treated as a fun extra challenge mode.

>>724818364
>play deity in civ 5
>spawn on continent with shaka, montezuma, and alexander
>struggle to balance military and science commitments and the accursed happiness mechanic, but think I'm doing ok
>suddenly discover a dutch ship mid game
>they had their own continent and are leagues ahead of everyone else

>>724817645
Most endbosses in WoW

>>724820456
What happens then? Emergency patches?

>normal has a sense of flow that is elegant
>is so generous and light on punishing errors that it becomes improbable to fail
>hard mode gets closer to having incentives for success, completely destroys any sense of flow by disempowering the player and prolonging each individual enemy encounter

>>724820302
>Quintuple LEGEND raider dying to Normal Mode mechanics because they have more random variance than the extremely static routine of Savage/Ult

>hardest difficulty triples enemy health and damage
>halves your health and damage
>nothing else changes

>>724820582
Yeah, fixes/nerfs.

>>724816283 (OP)
>>724816368
Both are good, I like Skyrim legendary mode because then it's also
>Dude what if crafting potions and the best armour and best enchants actually mattered?
Instead of
>Dude I just beat the game with a fork lel easy game (played on novice btw)

>>724816283 (OP)
>hard difficulty is meant for NG+

>>724818364
That made me think, how come there has been zero actual AI improvements in gaming even at the height of the AI boom atm?
I remember advanced AI used to be a selling point and how in black and white for example is was really great even if it was decades ago.

Where's my black and white 3 game with a hyper advanced creature AI?

>>724816603
>hardest difficulty is actually easiest difficulty and easiest difficulty is hardest difficulty.

>>724822184
AI that is good enough to challenge the player but bad enough to lose is really hard to do.
>just have your single player game require a good wired internet connection
Don't be retarded.

>>724816283 (OP)
>hardest difficulty has increased damage from enemies, limited saves and permadeath

>>724823205
good times...

>>724816283 (OP)
>Hardest difficulty makes point blank shotgun blasts and sniper rifle headshots no longer be one hit kills
>Rifle TTK is only barely increased
Disgusting.

>>724816283 (OP)
>hardest difficulty has respawning enemies

Alright, so what games ACTUALLY does its hardest difficulty well?

>>724822184
because "AI" is incapable of problem solving and only good for generating low quality media.

>>724816603
Coda Low% Hard Mode No Return in crypt of the necrodancer

>>724820853
what outside maybe the Metro series is this true for?

>>724821994
>Dude what if crafting potions and the best armour and best enchants actually mattered?
wait, it doesnt at normal? Legendary just sounds like what an RPG should be

>>724816283 (OP)
Isnt that Souls games in general? The bosses are the ones with the anime movesets while you are stuck with basic attacks and dodging.

>>724816368
Fucking this. Bullet sponges are so much worse than the player just taking more damage.

>>724816749
Where in OP's post were firearms mentioned?

>>724820853
Labyrinth of Refrain and Galleria, those EXP bonuses are absurd

>>724823205
the orb vallis bounty stage where you hack a coildrive

>>724816603
>>724817645
Breath of the wild master mode trial of the sword.
I mean, it is TECHNICALLY beatable, but only through glitches or AI exploits so bullshit that they might as well be glitches.

>>724817853
God bless Wario Land 4 for its hard and super hard modes. Those are the gold standard for good difficulty variants. Spoiled Rotten with just a 15 second timer is insane, but awesome.

>>724817645
Not strictly impossible but Trails in the Sky 2nd on Nightmare has a fight in the prologue that you cannot beat without metagaming (you need to buy a ton of items that there's no indication you'll need later), saving specific auto revive accessories and getting very lucky RNG

>>724827671
The ones that change engagements mechanically. SoP gives bosses more moves, Pillars of eternity changes enemy setups while giving them more abilities, and in MMOs bosses may even have new phases.

>>724816283 (OP)
>hardest difficulty is just 'dude, what if everything one-shot you?'
>but you also oneshot them

>>724829748
Pic was related. Quake is easier on nightmare than hard. This is due to the attack pattern, enemies never stop attacking, but it makes their pattern more predictable. On other difficulties they don't attack as much, but there's more RNG in when they do.

>>724832432
So instagib? Could be fun in a fast-paced game but you'd have to limit the player to certain weapons. Can't go giving someone an instagib shotgun

>>724816749
But do you also one shot enemies then?

>Get told over and over how CUHRAZZZY HARDDD and INSAAAEN a game difficulty is and how much it makes a game SOOOOO much better for SKILLZORED GAEMERS :OOOOO
>Some random standard enemy gains the ability to one shot you at the start of the game
>A miniboss gets the ability to one shot you
>A second random standard enemy in the middle of the game does enough damage to one shot you
>Annoying ass attack the final boss spams does just enough damage to hit you for your entire health bar if you haven't been grinding or equip the cockring of don't instantly die to this specific attack on the hard difficulty

>>724833440
How do you beat the Shambler gauntlet in Shub Niggurath's room if they don't stop shooting?

>>724818028
Shit like this is only acceptable in two cases:
>game has very high skill ceiling so you'll be playing way better in a mode that asks you to be better
or (something that, as far as I know, has never happened, just due to how complex this idea would be)
>get to experience a different story since you can play with the knowledge of what you've experienced beforehand

>Hardest difficulty massively increases your damage and the enemies but also lowers the ammo and resource amounts throughout the world
>Means you're basically a glass cannon but can die in 1-2 hits

>>724829748
I remember that the Persona 5 re-release had a bossfight that spawned in lower level enemies where you had to use a certain mechanic to beat it but if you kill the lower level enemies too quickly it fucks up you pulling the mechanic off making the boss basically impossible to beat so putting the game on the highest difficulty often made it easier

>>724834908
Oh and also fuck fags talking about how ZANY level 1 playthroughs are.
>OOOH IT'S SO CRAZY!!!
>Does level 70 damage with finishers because EXP Zero

>>724821709
welcome to /v/ mr redfield

>>724823205
I'm guessing this is a case of the devs putting an assload of bonuses for doing Hard Mode, so you end up outpacing everything anyway despite number inflation.

>>724816283 (OP)
>hard mode takes off the parry window of certain attacks

>>724816368
>hardest difficulty is just 'dude what if everything one-shot you AND you also one-shot everything?'

>>724836840
>Devs backport challenge mode in a remaster in a super unpolished barely playtested state so that people make youtube videos about it
Genuinely my one gripe with a certain trilogy remaster.

>>724835048
Easy, Shoot then take cover between shots, which is more predictable on nightmare.

>>724838349
They don't run up to you and gangrape you like they do normally?

I know this sounds crazy but maybe hard mode is meant for good veteran players that played the game before who wouldn't get hit by anything anyway?

>>724829748
Metal Gear Rising Revengeance.

>>724838885
>Um but you see I'm really cool actually

>724839108
if your bait doesn't make me laugh i won't hand out (You)s

>>724837018
that's every monster hunter

>>724838582
No

>>724817645
Wasn't this the case for Helldivers 2 for a while?

>>724839304
Huh, that would be a lot easier then.

>>724817853
>play normal difficulty
>get less content
>money stolen

>>724822184
>even at the height of the AI boom atm?
That's what killed the marketing of "AI". None of them actually had very sophisticated systems, they just made it obvious what procedures they were falling (FEAR) or had progression-based behavioural unlocks (B&W). Now that nobody's impressed by hearing the words "complex AI", there's no reason to doll up your game mechanics to be something they're not. One could package reinforcement learning into their game- people have done experiments- but it's computationally expensive and generally not satisfying for a player when the computer's just learning how to make them go from zero to dead as efficiently as possible.

>>724834908
>>724835575
Not that guy but fuck all the secret bosses
Especially mysterious figure both times you fight him
Holy shit

>>724818364
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1617282434

I'm curious if this one works but I'm willing to try it

>>724839249
and that's a good thing