Thread 724855530

Will the next paper mario finally be good? And will we ever get a 64 remake?

>>724855530 (OP)
No and no

>>724855579
ok

>>724855530 (OP)
>modern remake of cherished game
You don't want that. It's poison.

>>724855579
This. Miyamoto ruined paper mario forever because he's a hack.
>>724856229
And this. PM64 is still easily playable and holds up well. It doesn't need a remake and if it got one it'd likely be worse than the original.

>>724856229
ttyd and smrpg remakes were good though.
>oh nooo the already canon tranny is still a tranny
yawn

>>724856483
TTYD remake has way more issues than the troon or even the rewrites (they're already bad)

>>724855530 (OP)
I hope they never make another Paper Mario, they're clearly incapable of it.

>>724858553
I take a way, way bigger issue with the dialogue speed being abysmally slow with no way to advance it faster and the Z button backlog being removed.

>>724855530 (OP)
Judging by the state of every game after TTYD it's clear Nintendo have no fucking clue what made people like the first two games

>>724858752
There are so many things to nitpick, it's kinda crazy.

Pic related. In the OG, the pigs were 3D models that contrasted with the rest of the world, amplifying the feeling of some otherworldly curse, something really wrong. The black trees in the background added to it. In the remake pigs are more or less in line with the rest of the artistic sensibilities of the game, and the background trees are just cardboard, nothing crazy.

It doesn't look horrible, but they missed the point. One of many.

>>724858870
They removed these Mario faces transition for literally no reason. Again, small nitpick, but.... why?

>>724858931
This pic was supposed to highlight shitty dialogue rewrites, but you can also see:
>soulless muted colors (this is an issue with most of the game)
>reflections on the stone ground

they missed the point again. This locker room is supposed to look decrepit.

>>724855530 (OP)
The next Paper Mario will be a paper game first and an RPG a distant second, unlike PM and TTYD.

So no, it'll suck

>>724859015
Have fun with the rewrites, I'm done shitting on this lazy remake

By the way, the Russian Bobombs don't have the Russian accent anymore because Putin or something idk

>>724859064
Surely Nintendo has seen all the classic paper mario clones coming out, hell, some claim even Expedition 33 is inspired by the old games.

>>724858870
My nitpick of choice is the battle screen.
The little streamer aesthetic was great and fit the rest of the game like a glove. Nobody was actually asking to go back to 64's bubble look (and even then, 64's was all in one big dropdown which was a lot of its appeal).

>>724859274
Yeah the remake UI is incredibly soulless.

Visuals often fucking suck too. They traded the comic book style for arts and craft galore.

>>724859370
I hate nintendo's obsession with arts and crafts so much it's unreal

>>724859470
For no reason they don't have the blue background in these panels actually MOVE, it's an ugly static background now

>>724859470
The damage it did to Yoshi was irreparable even if I love Woolly World and have a soft spot for Story

They should make Paper Zelda, and then Paper Starfox and Paper Punchout, instead of trying to do TTYD again (which they would probably fail to recapture, because fans have insatiable expectations at this point).

>>724859589
And Paper Splatoon.
My thought process is "which Nintendo universes do I want to see quirky little RPG versions of?".

>>724859589
>insatiable expectations
Huh? It's kind of the opposite, people will go out of their way to defend trash like TOK and pretend Bobby (actually named Bobomb in Japanese, btw) counts as a partner.

Releasing a Paper Mario with RPG mechanics, even if it has glaring flaws and much less inspired world and stories compared to TTYD, would be enough for millions of tendies to pretend PAPER MARIO IS BACK BABYYYYYYYYY and this is the best they ever made

>>724856229
I mean, they already remade TTYD, which is the actual beloved one.
PM64 is the one that gets kind of overlooked in comparison, and the one that could actually do with a remake, cause N64 graphics scale poorly to modern resolutions.

Why is Nintendo so obsessed with making colors as muted and soulless as possible?

>>724859674
I think people have been waiting too long and have probably built "classic Paper Mario" up too much as a thing in their heads.
They should take the base RPG systems and paper aesthetic, and apply it to different Nintendo franchises. I think it would be neat, and would probably make them less inclined to tack on gimmicks.

>>724859838
You're not entirely wrong but Bug Fables exists, they could just base it on this. It's not exactly impossible. They'd have to work a little though.