Thread 724893802

What went wrong?

>play the campaign
>run the lab 4 times
>clear the atlas
>get 4 stone
>just to farm strongboxes AGAIN

PoE2 is better.

>one of the most viewed and talked about games
>no discussion on /v/

>>724897901
Unfortunately one of those games that cannot be discussed on this board due to deranged schizos.

>Alternating PoE2 and 1 leagues over and over

I just can't find the energy to care about PoE1 any longer, I'd prefer if they'd focus on 2 instead of trying to money grub both games at the same time. Initially I thought they were going to maintenance mode 1 and just rerun old shit but no, no they REALLY want you to jump back and forth and spend money.

>>724898080
I would have liked that, but poe2 is lame as hell. Port all the graphics and bosses to poe1 and cut the losses for poe2

I just don't care anymore.

>>724898624
I'm good on that front, 2 is simply unfinished, it's missing god knows how many skills, classes, and weapons. They really just need to focus on it, even PoE1 wouldn't feel great if you deleted half the classes and 70% of it's skills.

>>724898719
basically this

game died when chris wilson left, or perhaps a little bit before that when the people who made him leave had their claws hooked too deep into his designs

miss that bald fuck

>>724897986
I legitimately want to know about the schizos. It's forever fascinating.

>>724898941
There are multiple groups, previously games like poe only had to deal with the F2P crowd, every F2P game has always had to deal with a swarm of retards because of the free nature of the game. Nowadays there's a myriad of other groups of schizos that haunt every single game. One group is almost certainly third worlders, another I theorize to be younger individuals who grew up being parented by youtube and are addicted to drama because of it. The strangest group are the people who have seemingly decided that X game is their nemesis, they hyper fixate on hating said game and spend what must be hours and hours every single day harassing people who try to discuss it on the internet.

If you open up any thread on this board you'll see them, moderation does nothing to stop the flood of schizos.

>>724898624
Poe 1 is lame is fuck
You've just fallen into the trap of ‘old good new bad’. The problem isn't with Poe 2, it's with you because you simply don't want a new game.

>>724893802 (OP)
Them not developing for a year + poe2 being unfinished killed a lot of my urge to play poe

>>724893802 (OP)
No WASD.

>>724899481
Fair I guess, I like poe1 so I would have preferred they do the original plan and just make poe2 a giant update for poe1.

>>724893802 (OP)
Feels like PoE2 league just ended. Can't be arsed jumping between both games like that and it the update to PoE2 seems to be of way higher quality

>>724899745
This. I was played PoE2 until like 2 weeks ago or so. I'll wait for 0.4.

>>724899680
I really don't understand that. Poe 1 is already bloated beyond all limits and adding an entire game to it would be just plain stupid.
Making a new modern game from scratch is the right decision. After all Poe 1 was originally built as a small indie game and at the moment it just doesn't fucking work. Seriously, somehow Poe 2 works better than Poe 1. It's time for Poe 1 to retire.

I couldn't get into POE. I got into Diablo IV and POE2, but not the first game.

Watching the endgame on youtube reminds me of Warframe, players dashing around with particle effects absolutely going off.

>>724900279
>>724900392
I'm just not a fan of how fast it is now, and by fast I mean that you really don't play the game any more, you invalidate it. They are bit by bit making 2 faster but hopefully it never reaches this level of ridiculousness.

>>724900635
All this ‘Poe 2 becomes like Poe 1’ is bullshit. Watch how they just nerf all Poe 1-like builds again in the next patch.

>>724900912
What are you talking about? 0.3 made the game significantly faster and easier, 0.2 did the same in its later patches.

>>724900635
poe2 has the same problem where if you don't invalidate maps, you will die. And its even worse because there are genuine punishments for ripping a map
The best they can really do is make cool bosses, just because the core of poe mapping is clearing screens, and if there is a full screen of enemies you cannot have satisfying combat

>>724899303
How come no one shit talks diablo ii? It's always poe1 tards vs poe2tards
>muh third worlders
we don't have time for your drama

>>724893802 (OP)
New chick's voice is just gwennen if she crazy

>>724893802 (OP)
Diablo 3 let you 4 man co-op the leveling process doing any zone with any build with your friends on voice chat in 2014, but for some reason you need to do this shit >>724894107

And even funnier is that its EVEN WORSE in PoE2. GGG customers literally eat shit and then ask for more.

>>724901615
I do talk shit about Diablo 2, its design has been surpassed in every regard, though it still deserves a ton of credit for being so foundational.

>>724893802 (OP)
They didn't stop developing the game fifteen years ago and all drink bleach in Rory's garage.

MY GAME

Three PoE1 and three PoE2 leagues per year is fucking retarded. It's clear that it's too much for them to handle, every patch has been several undercooked.

It should be three PoE2 leagues and one for PoE1.

>>724900635
They can't do anything but make players faster/stronger if they're going to insist on both big punishments for failing maps and instakill teleport on you mobs/instakill chaos death puddles. People counter this by playing builds that are either very safe or instantly blow up the whole screen

>>724893802 (OP)
Nothing?

This league is insane, the crafting from the tree is letting me play SSF and try out all kinds of things.

It's great!

Tencent shill thread

>>724898881
The game only got better after he got kicked out.

>>724903630
>One Exilecoin has been deposited into your account.

>>724903476
This is just a problem with ARPGs in general. The genre feels like it's designed for long-term farming, but what that essentially means is that players will optimise the game out of the videogame
Especially if they want to do some bullshit player economy horsefuckery, because that just makes playing anything except the cookie cutter meta build into a retard test, because no matter what build you're playing, the aim is always to be as close to the invincible screen exploding sonic hedgehog build as possible, and if you're having fun with your non-meta build, it's eventually going to run into diminishing returns and hard cap at being worse than the meta build. So if you play the meta build worse to enable your gimmick, it's going to feel like shit in comparison, and if you do the opposite, you're going to be slogging it and get outpaced by chinese farmers until you can't penetrate the economy for shit.

>>724904027
The only thing you can do to help with the first thing is to play SSF to extend the amount of time that it takes you to get there and limit your options in what you can run by what you've dropped for the season. That doesn't help with multiplayer fuckery at all, of course.

I haven't played since probably that league after that dark-maze thing with the hole in the ground.

Is Poe1 still good or is it shit, how's spell, item and build balance? Overtuned end-game content?

Is Poe2 good yet?

>>724904112
And the problem with THAT is that the game is explicitly designed around the player economy and item fungibility. Build enabling unique rarity is balanced around how long it takes to farm currency to buy them with, not how long it takes to actually get them as a drop. If I could play SSF with like 1000% boosted drop rates I would absolutely do that instead.

>>724904198
It's all shit
The balance is ass
PoE2 is unfinished trash
But if you want dopamine spikes and don't care about skill or thinking then PoE1 is your game

>>724904198
>Is Poe1 still good or is it shit...?
It's more or less the same, there are balance issues but unless you have a massive hard on for a skill that happens to suck there is enough variation at the top to be entertaining. End game is a bit too easy desu.
>Is Poe2 good yet?
No

>>724893802 (OP)
I like this league desu
foulborn uniques seem crazy
I got a wand that rolled +2 to max golems

>>724901770
she sounds like that crazy bitch from game of thrones that wanted to throw the midget through the hole

>>724901615
1. no one makes threads about it
2. it was made before they were born

I was sick of doing the 6 and 7 wave defences by the time I hit maps and then it asked me to do 24 waves.

>>724899303
You seen that guy who dumps fucked up gore/scat AI art in the fire emblem threads? We need to bring back insane asylums.

People set their expectations too high. It's a bubblegum business, not a Michelin star restaurant.

>>724906995
That might be a case of unstoppable schizos.

>>724906995
Yeah unfortunately, he's just the tip of the schizo iceberg there. People attach themselves to a character, a waifu if you will, and then have all out wars with people who have done so with other characters. They spam vile commissioned art of the "competition" and each try to drive the other off.

It's clear the internet being accessible to everyone was a mistake.

>>724907942
I do wonder why private forums faded into the background instead of becoming more prominent. They obviously still exist but with the echo chamberfication and tragedy of the commons that is current year internet I would have expected more fenced in suburbs than I can see.

>>724904027
>and if you're having fun with your non-meta build, it's eventually going to run into diminishing returns and hard cap at being worse than the meta build.
And what's the problem with that? Unless you are gatekept out of in game content, which you aren't, then just keep having fun with your build at your leisure. Metas will always, always, ALWAYS exist, it is up to you to stop yourself from feeling FOMO for not playing into it if you don't find it fun, and if you can't, then find another video game or hobby entirely.

>>724904353
I just got the grim realization that mirrors would still be insanely rare at +1000% of a drop rate

>>724893802 (OP)
It's a clunky 15 year old outdated piece of shit. Nothing went wrong. Being slop for turbo autismal mongs it's doing pretty well in 2025.
In fact, poe2 has double peak players of ark. Ark tried to bot just as hard as poe, but failed, kek.

>>724908832
compared to divs/exalts, sacreds are 30x rarer and mirrors are 1600x rarer. so 1000%+ boost would still be 5x rarer than a sacred drop at normal rates.

>>724909415
What do mirrors do and why are they so rare?

>>724911084
They make a copy of an item
so its equivalent to the best item in the game

>>724912318
Sounds like something that should drop more often so more people have access to good items and thus more people have a good time.

>>724913370
whales value playing the economy over playing the game and ggg values whales over freeps, i can't blame them as it is a business after all

>>724913370
No, the dream is that you COULD have something and be special. It needs to be unlikely to happen so that you can feel like hot shit when it does happen.
See the lottery

>>724893802 (OP)
Have you seen the meta?
There is your answer.

>>724915102
What is the meta?

>>724915141
All female characters builds

>>724915246
Are you a fucking faggot? Do you want to play as the big muscle nigger? Want to Self-Insert too like the low IQ closeted faggots do?

Hey asmongold is live you dumbfuckin braindead retard, go watch someone play the games.

>>724913370
You don't need the best items in order to complete all the content.
Except for deep delve

>>724916826
Then why play meta at all if you find it unfun over a self made build you do find fun? What's forcing you to play meta exclusively if its not required to complete any of the game's content?

>>724917552
Most people in fact don't play meta builds

>>724913370
The catch is that you still have to a fee to mirror an item, and if they were more common players would then in turn ask for more of a fee

>>724917848
Why would you say something that is not only wrong and retarded, but easily proven false as well? Do you have a humiliation fetish?

Why do they keep nerfing defenses if they supposedly hate the zoomification of the game?
Every defensive nerf is just further incentivizing players to forgo defense in favor of damage to kill everything offscreen

>>724919559
You can make a literally immortal Slayer build that cannot die to anything the game throws at you except Maven's Simon Says attack.

If GGG intends on keeping both games actively developed simultaneously, then PoE2 needs to do something different than PoE1. Turning 2 into a rehash of 1 is fine if you intend to just put 1 into maintenance mode and leave it at that, or else the more 2 becomes like 1, the less reason there will be to play 1 at all.