Thread 724909426

I really have no idea who hard games are for. Back in the 90s, sure, hard games gave you a bit more value out of a game which could probably be beaten in one sitting if it wasn't so hard. That would suck, since we only got new games for our birthday and Christmas. Also useful for developers, since making the player replay the same part over and over, meant you needed less assets and could use smaller, cheaper EPROMs.
But why are they still around today? We have more games than we could ever hope to finish thanks to Steam. There's no need to artificially extend the runtime of a game with difficulty, you can just start a new game if you finish it. So who are they for? The only people I can think of, are people who are looking to have some kind of accomplishment to make up for the fact they feel like they don't have anything like this in their real lives.

>>724909426 (OP)
What do you mean hard?
This game is just normal in difficulty.

skill issue lol

This is why arcades need to reopen in full swing and filter all these gameplay first retards there. The medium has moved past that in the 2000s but were held back from reaching full potential because these fake hard games started to infest the space with their cancer.

Because learning mechanics, honing your skills, and overcoming challenges is fun. I dunno about you guys but I like playing video games because they are fun. Not every game needs to be like pulling teeth to have fun but there is still plenty of space for difficulty.

>>724909426 (OP)
What was the point of this whole post when your pathetic cope is summed up in the last sentence alone?

>>724909986
There's about a hundred slop movie games for braindead niggers like you for every "fake hard" game. Go play them.

>>724909426 (OP)
>the only value in a game is in trying to beat it
>once you have beaten it there's no more value and you move on
And what if I actually like the video game and not the dopamine rush of being able to check a box on my backlog?

ADHD runs rampant around zoomers and gen xers grew up with mindless Atarislop. Millennials are smart enough to ditch arcadeslop for more meaningful games that have more than one dimensional gameplay. It's why zoomers love soulsslop and millennials detest it since millennials know there were better stuff growing up.

>>724910526
What is wrong with wanting story and context in your games that isn't push one button to kill pixels on the screen for high scores or validation?

>>724909426 (OP)
beating 1 hard game is more fun than beating 5 easy ones

>>724911271
Let me guess, you think comboslop isn't one dimensional

>>724909426 (OP)
Silksong isn't even actually hard, it just punishes you for playing it wrong, especially if you came in with a lot of preconceptions from Hollow Knight.

>more games than we can ever hope to finish
You have to be 18 to post here.

>>724911346
What's wrong is there's 100s of them, and you're not playing.
Instead, you're here to bitch about ONE hard game.
Fuck you.
Fuck your mom.
Fuck your ancestors.

>>724909426 (OP)
Maybe... it's not actually that hard?

>>724909426 (OP)
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The real issue is corpse runbacks and gimmicky platform seccions aren't "hard". They're "hard" in a World of Warcraft sense. It wants to punish you by wasting your time. There's a good game underneath it all but I shouldn't have to use mods to make the game playable

>>724909426 (OP)
>What's the point of hard games, anyway?
Overcoming the challenges that demand you learn and master the game's mechanics are fun. Gaming journos will never understand

>>724909426 (OP)
based op understands the value of time

>>724911271
don't dog on zoomers, they are playing the most boring dialogue games ever with mihoyo games. They have more attention span than I could ever wish to have.

>what's the point of climbing mountains, anyway?
brownoids will never understand

>>724909426 (OP)
Silksong is not hard, just tedious. Cat Mario is a harder (and more fun) game.

>>724909426 (OP)
Tranny did you watch the video? The faggot literally says Silksongs difficulty has a point and failure is only the player's fault for hitting their head against a wall instead of exploring somewhere else....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip5pYl-MuYs

>>724909426 (OP)
hard≠obnoxious

silksong was obnoxious not hard

>>724909426 (OP)
Me. They were made for me and I like them. Sorry if you can't understand that an entire subgenre of game was just made for one person.

>>724918001
the faggot literally says whatever the current narrative is telling him to say. The entire channel is basically "the popular game sure is popular cause it's good probably". Just one of those hype dickriders that have no actual care about game design. It's the same retard that made boss keys, the most fucking braindead and useless analysis of zelda dungeons.

>>724918891
Nigger I don't care who this faggot is or what he does, I'm just pointing out that I watched his video and tealized OP is being a massive tranny

>>724919949
op is being based, being tranny is praising silkslop cause of it's "difficulty"

test

>>724909426 (OP)
Because hard = fun sometimes, simple as

>>724909426 (OP)
>i suck at games and everyone who doesn't is a tryhard no-lifer
see how short your whine could be?

>>724909426 (OP)
I like hard games that are fun. If you're playing something that is hard but you're not having fun then it's just not the right game for you. Souls-likes and 2D platformers that intentionally do this isn't the only form of hardcore. There's many different kinds to engage with. In short stop looking at it from the Dark Souls plebeian perspective. Higher difficulty feels rewarding when you're actually engaging with something that is meshes with your interests more and the souls fag is just looking for bragging rights. To give an example: Pathologic is pretty brutal in its difficulty, but for me it was a decent alternative kind of hard and it kept me going. It doesn't need to all be the same formula. I finally put the pieces together that I only found games frustrating if I wasn't enjoying them. Sometimes they don't even feel so difficult once you're really invested.

The whole point of play is to train yourself to overcome challenges in a safe environment. That shit is hardwired into our brains. Humans have exploited the shit out of that system in the form of video games. It ticks so many boxes in your brain. Novel experiences, learning and using skills, seeing something through or completing something, overcoming challenges, even single player games will tickle the social part of your brain a little. A difficult game just ups the rewards. It's not worth it to everyone, sure, but people that enjoy challenges simply crave challenges.

>>724909426 (OP)
Isn't this the same giga-faggot who made that series analyzing Zelda dungeons and half of it was like "this dungeon is too linear therefore it is bad dungeons need to be nonlinear all the time"

>>724909426 (OP)
>I really have no idea who hard games are for
People who enjoy them.
>you're trying to make up for a lack of accomplishment
It's just fun, dude. If it's not fun for you that's fine, but you don't have to project so hard.
You might have a point when it comes to the git gud drones though

>>724918001
>>724919949
YWNBAW

Where's Game Maker's Toolkit's game?

>>724909426 (OP)
i refuse to accept people are actually getting filtered by a basic bitch metroidvania
it has to be a low effort mass gaslight like the blue gold dress shit

>>724917380
lmao as if, what they do is let the cutscenes run on the background while watching jewtube slop