Thread 724928737

in this thread we post actual vidya flops

stalker 2 is worse than the stalker-likes. project silverfish mogs this game

>>724928737 (OP)
> niche game for slavaboos and tarkov kiddies
> 120k all time peak online
> Flop

>>724928737 (OP)
How's the performance these days?
It was literally unplayable on launch. 2080S

>>724928945
It was fine on console

>>724928737 (OP)
the title having a typo really screams quality

whats bad about it? I dont play video games right now due to work, but I was looking forward to playing it once things settle down

>>724929054
post-soviet russo-ukraine war spelling

>>724928737 (OP)
last time I listen to you niggers. never played a game in the series and the pre release threads described it as unforgiving and "the dark souls" of post apocalyptic survival or whatever. it was piss easy, not once did I suffer and was actually carrying extras of everything to the point I had to throw shit all the time

>>724928737 (OP)
another great pc exclusive completely castrated for console babies. modern gaming is so fucking dire. I want to go back.

>>724929202
everyone mods the game to make it better, no one rlly plays vanilla. this comes at the cost of the engine having a 0.02% chance of crashing at any moment.

>>724928737 (OP)
is a life finally in the game?

>>724929115
It's consolized and everything that was good about it was ruined. They got the look right but the AI is shit. Instead of a patrol being stationed the just spawn in a 50 foot radius sometimes behind you or constantly.
In one one the older stalkers for example there'd be like 5 guys under a bridge that you could see from a distance. You could avoid them, detour, or snipe. In stalker 2 yout walk through that natural choke point see nobody loot the area then get shot in that back when you leave.cause they just spawned in. So much of it is empty unless it's a mission to go to that area. If you explore that area ahead of time it's empty untill you touch a trigger and stuff spawns onto you. Sometime your standing on the triggerpoint and 50 dudes jump you 3 guys at a time. It was very buggy but I head that aspect improved.

>>724928737 (OP)
Dream about, Sulaco she/they

>>724928987
Good for you

>Shadow of Kornobyl
Does anyone have that video

>>724928834
This game will mog Silverfish is my predictions and actually be a real competitor to STALKER 2.

>>724929115
>whats bad about it?
Unreal Engine 5. Unironically.
X-Ray Engine was responsible for at least half the soul og stalkers had.

I will never not be amused by how a full set of fully paid game devs with a modern publisher failed to make a better game than a bunch of slavs drinking vodka and smoking crack in a shed while making their dream roadside picnic fanfic game on a computer cobbled together from scrap
They had their own engine too while this turd runs on unreal slop
It was kinda disgusting how all the shills were dismissing the game's embarassing technical state with "OH IT'S EUROJANK DON'T YOU KNOW?" and "it's stalker its supposed to be buggy not bugs but anomalies xDD"

>>724932893
>X-Ray Eng
yup
fuck ue5.

>>724932893
Do you mean in lighting? or running it poorly? state your case for what X-Ray engine does and what can't be achieved on UE5. I understand the complaints of games running terribly.

>>724928737 (OP)
I liked the game I don’t know what you virgins are talking bout, my main issue is its performance / polish which is much better now, I stopped playing because I got busy but I won’t go back until few more patches

>>724928834
Its disqualified by the fact that its a furry game. I dont care how godly the game may be, im not playing this disgusting filth

>>724929202
Are you talking about STALKER 2? Because the Anons you were talking to probably meant the modded originals.

2 years later and it's still killing Microsoft

>>724933658
Nigger the game completely flopped, you can stop shilling it by now and admit it was a piece of shit.

>>724928945
Still terrible.

>>724933658
You liking the game doesn't mean it's not a flop. But anyway, I did complete it and it was alright apart from the terrible performance and lack of A-Life. The NPC render distance is terrible too. Not sure if this was changed but the render distance was only 70m, so you could literally see enemies spawn in and out while scoped in on their position as you cross that threshold. Snipers are made useless because of this.

I also didn't like the weapon progression. There are rifles that use the same caliber and have the same barrel length but one is 3-4x as effective as the other because it's a "late game" weapon, even though their effectiveness against enemies should be largely the same.

>>724933474
I mean they still haven't managed to add pack migration and AI that will actually properly travel between levels, which they had in all 3 trilogy xray games

>>724934440
it seems to be doing exceptionally well for such a niche series though?

>>724934373
The game is shockingly soulless and sterile, as soon as you start a woman talking in the typical American slurred speech instructs you to some basic shit, and then to create an avatar, the default one is a woman….

Who is this made for and who’s this woman did no one find this annoying and completely unfit for a racing game that will be played by car enthusiasts? Not to mention the stupid affinity RPG leveling they added, near non existent soundtrack and bad performance

>>724934440
I liked it, it was a kino exploration and survival game, reminded me of Metro

>>724935631
The Path into the Abyss is currently in development on Unreal Engine 5 and it's doing what A-Life was doing. So it's not the engine which is the issue here. It's what people were capable of developing.

>>724936089
right but GSC still hasn't done it even though they successfully did it on xray, therefor that is what xray has achieved that they have not on ue5
hypotheticals and potential don't matter, I'm talking about what currently exists

>>724928945
source for the pic?

>>724929464
is this an engine constraint/performance thing or can it be fixed?

>>724928737 (OP)
Pieces of shit subhumans at GSC utterly massacred and raped the SOVLful garbage level. It was perfect. It had character, gameplay flow and was ironic and pleasant to look like.
It looked like a hastily deposited nuclear waste site with pockets of life stalkers try to carve out for themselves.

NU-gsc made it an assortment of cinder-blocks and just senselessly strewn around trash, looking ugly as fuck and running like dog with atrocious FPS dips. It makes absolutely no sense even from a lore perspective. What is this? ,just looks like UE assets slammed together.
Uninstalled then and there.
I hope it 10 russian Kaliber missiles hit Nu-GSC HQ

>>724936025
If you think that's bad, don't play forza horizon. I'm just gonna keep playing older gran turismo games.

>>724936369
It's an incompetence thing and an engine being shit thing. When you mix an unoptimized engine with mediocre devs you end up with his dumpster fire performance. This leaves little headroom so they cut corners everywhere to get the game running anywhere near reasonably. They could easily just bump up the spawn distance numbers but the game barely runs even with all of these compromises so that would make it unplayable. The codebase is likely so fucked that getting reasonable performance would be an entire rewrite which is unlikely to happen.

need monolithian gf to praise my monolith(penis)

lot of vatniks seething in this thread

>>724936159
It's not hypothetical because that system can exist on UE5. That game actually will release one day and you will see how an equivalent system functions on it. You can get world persistence and every single position of an NPC in the game's memory in an open map or open world. That is literally up to someone to figure all of that out. It's not easy to figure out at all and requires some level of knowledge of coding tricks. But the real issue is that it's likely not optimisation friendly.

Lol the britcuck accents really sealed the deal for this dead baby game

>>724928737 (OP)
I pre-ordered the Ultimate edition back in 2021.

The red flags were immediate with almost every new announcement but I held on hope that at least SOME semblance of sovl would remain.

Oh boy...

>>724936839
I never understood how English with an Eastern Euro accent is better than English with any other accent when the game is set in a non-English speaking location. They're just different flavors of English and are equally immersion-breaking. The only way to play is with Ukrainian audio anyway

>>724936993
I hear enough ukrainian speak in my small german town why would I want to hear more of it in a video game, i hate it

>>724928737 (OP)
>stalker 2
>flop
ok pidor

>>724938087
You lost, your game sucks, you speak gay russian

>>724928737 (OP)
Doom Dark Ages. Eternal was so bad that it killed even the sequel.

>>724938525
>the extremely successful and well-liked entry in the series is what killed the underwhelming sequel

Eternal filtered low skill fags so hard, it's fucking hilarious. Next you'll be blaming Eternal for all your personal failings as well

>>724928834
>From tjye devs you brought yku a buggy broken mess fans had to fix themselves to make a good game
Wow what a shock. They're basically slav Bethesda.

>>724938714
Zoolatto plays turd games to convince itself it has any skills

>>724935864
It didn't have a nitch series budget though, it had a huge budget.

>>724938714
Domo was never good but nu-doom is total trash.

>>724936369
It's an engine constraing/performance that could be fixed but they'd have to retcon it back to non-open world. The original was instanced so a-life had an online and offline mode. In the zone (hue) you were in, they would be online to some distance and visible even far away to some distance. Offline it would just be tracking position and simulating gun fights without proper AI. Because performance is already so bad, unless you revert to instanced zones you can't have true a-life without running like a slideshow.

>>724928737 (OP)
I mean the game still has bare basic memory overflow bugs, the steam forum is filled with this shit.
thats some pre-alpha level of bugs still in the game

>>724934039
it would be so funny if the best zone/stalker type game ends up being a furry title. i feel like silverfish is on the verge of blowing up if it keeps progressing at this rate too

>>724932826
>set in third world America
>recommended specs include GTX 1060
The memes write themselves but it might be worth a play.

>>724936557
>>724941235
I'm sensing a bunch of arm chair experts in this thread. Is your claims that UE5 is incapable of handling a system which contains online and offline modes? it may be premature to talk about a game that hasn't even released but to claim that it's impossible to do this method just reeks of a bunch of idiots that think they understand game development.

>>724943160
>Is your claims that UE5 is incapable of handling a system which contains online and offline modes

No, that is not my claim. Read the post again and you will see my claim clearly.

This shit was only rushed out as a PR stunt for the fake and gay war, of course they never fixed it

>>724928945
I get 50-60 fps on high setting 3060ti
Have you tried not being poor

>>724928737 (OP)
How the fuck is it a flop?

>>724943282
>rushed out
>15 year development

>>724943334
In an open field with nothing but grass and trees maybe. I get 120+ FPS in such scenarios. How's your performance when you enter a settlement with more than 5 NPCs?

>>724929054
>its not in russian!
>its a typo!
You russians are perpetually asspained about anything that does not pander to you.

>>724943420
Did i stutter?
50-60 fps bitch

>>724929054
Seeing Russians and Ukrainians argue that they aren't the same is like watching Pakis and Indians do the same

>>724943521
Sure thing.

>>724943637
>he spent all his money on the GPU and was too poor to afford a good CPU
Oh no no no no look at this dude!

>>724943693
I have a 5800X3D. What CPU do you use lying anon?

>>724943160
>le armchair maymay
Ok, enlighten us. Why isn't it included in-game? Can't be for performance reasons. Not like the originals nearly halve FPS when a-life starts processing after a level is loaded.

>>724936993
>The only way to play is with Ukrainian audio anyway
I do. Learned some Ukrainian that way.
Also, the radios are funky as hell. All those songs, apparently a mix of old and traditional and new ukrainian, add so much soul to the game.
My only issue is that they still cannot fix properly the stash loot. Is it THAT hard to add some random loot to them like attachements, artefacts, maybe helmets and night-vision devices. Personal peeve is that helmets like Sphere-20M and Mask-1 has psy-protection, while integrated suits with those helmets do not. Like, why?

>>724943693
>has a 3060
>calls other anons poor

kek

>>724943869
Well if that shitty card can run 50-60 imagine how poor the other anon is.
And its established that retards blow their budget on the GPU then complain about stuttering with their 5th gen Intel

>>724928737 (OP)
Wasted opportunity, I'll simply wait for another 4A game.

>>724943990
>And its established that retards blow their budget on the GPU then complain about stuttering with their 5th gen Intel
That is actualy true. CPU is the bottleneck more often than not.

I hate ukrainians so god damn much

>>724929115
Pretty much everything. It kind of looks like Stalker, and the artifact hunting is generally improved with some of the new anomalies, but everything is worse. It's cinematic in the worst way possible, the map is big for the sake of it without any real thought put into the area placed in between existing places except how to gate the player, you spend a huge chunk of game time just hauling broken weapons back to sell which is really boring. They sidelined factions people cared about for new gay factions. Even after a million updates, there's still no real A-life so the world feels boring. They overtuned the shit out of bloodsuckers so getting surprised by 3 of them at a fixed "random" spawn is basically quickload city. It's just bad. When I played the original SoC I was instantly hooked with the atmosphere and looks of the game, and the tense feeling firefight at the abandoned garage where enemies would actually need line of sight on me and try to flush me out then search for me when I ran. Then I watched the military guys at the checkpoint fight a group of bandits and I snuck over and tried to keep the fight even by helping the losing side so I could finish off the last guy and take everyone's gear. In Stalker 2 the enemies only care about you even if they're fighting each other, and they also laser in on your location basically just from you being near them.

>>724929115
TL;DR 2 hour refund denial game disguised as a full price 16 hour game. Most other criticisms are just nitpicking. Its front loaded as fuck.

>>724928945
dont think there was much change. The devs talked about a big update to the engine that is supposed to be released "soon"

Unironically hope the Ukraine gets nukes for Nu-Stalker 2. The country has alreadypeaked with Metro Exodus , nothing better will ever come out of it

>>724954846
>Vomit colour palette
Yep it's UE time

>>724936407
Let's be real here for a second, the original trilogy was always trash
Buggy mess, half assed faction, fetch side quests, bullet sponge ai

>>724928737 (OP)
okay you first OP

>>724955547
>the original trilogy was always trash
Wrong

>>724928737 (OP)
Play Gamma instead this is fucking trash

>>724955547
My singular problem with the older stalker games is randomized bullet spread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq3rSWXOnxU
Which they fixed in CoP and almost fixed in Clear Sky.

>>724936736
>It's not hypothetical because that system can exist on UE5.
I'll believe it when I see it.

>>724943160
When people make inane claims about what's not possible on UE5, they're very obviously a tech illiterate third world shitposter.

>>724929202
STALKER 2 is just far cry: Ukraine
Play the originals. CoP with gunslinger is kino. Obligatory play GAMMA etc

>>724929164
Why would you ruin the anons joke

>>724955547
Everyone plays with mods and forgets how rough OG SoC is. But it isn't unplayable and you can get used to it to the point it becomes fun quite quickly. The original trilogy is one of those stepping stones everyone claims you need to enjoy OGSE and GAMMA etc. Honestly I just think you need to play SoC vanilla once and play CoP with gunslinger and you're good. Maybe even radiophobia could be a subsitute for SoC

>>724960814
>Obligatory play GAMMA etc
Absolutely disgusting.

>>724958806
If the game engine let's you write custom code and spawn entities and set the state of them 100% you can spawn a thread that can manage actual a-life 2.0 and spawn entities that migrate into you map at the borders and set their current state.

>>724928945
Better, but not by much. Settlements are still pretty demanding on the CPU.

>>724938714
>well-liked
>filtered low skill fags
So which one is it? Low skill fags aka casuals are the biggest audience.

>>724943602
kek

>Requires insane hardware to run properly
>Had to patch in night vision
>Zone mutants were all absurdly tanky that they had to change this as one of the first patches
>Side quests were so worthless with their rewards that they had to buff those too
>Weapon durability was so fucking retarded that this ALSO had to be changed
>Lighting is entirely fucked where you can see aftermath images from opening doors and aiming down the sights for your gun
>Enemies only exist around you, nowhere else in the Zone
>Stash locations were always a medkit and alcohol
>Zone is so expanded and stretched out like an inflation fetishists dream scenario that you're constantly running miles to get to a mission objective and NOTHING is happening while you're making the journey, it's just a boring straight line with a world that's too big
>Performance explodes during indoor areas like the entire monolith section at the end that has no reason to run as badly as it does

I can bitch about Stalker 2 all day. It was one of the worst experiences with a new game I've tried and I didn't even pay for it. It was so bad that I felt like the developers should have paid me.

>>724943334
>3060ti
>bro calls someone poor
WHAT

>>724963628
My CPU rapes yours
Seethe and cope at your stuttering

i really think stalker 2 being shit/a flop/bad/ruined/lost/didnt make it should be a meme
its like a shit game