Thread 724940151

This is genuinely a 3/10 game. Nothing about playing this game is fun or enjoyable. It's like they forgot that a game is supposed to be fun and not just tedium when making it.

It has an extremely linear world with big bloated maps spammed with enemies everywhere with no thought put into enemy placement. The best way to play this game is to run as fast as you can through each area to get to the next boss because there's nothing worthwhile to be found in the bloated maps. It's a boss rush game.

It has a chain of the worst areas in the series: Undead Settlement, Road of Sacrifices, Farron Keep, Catacombs, Irithyll Dungeon are all terrible areas. It has dogshit bosses like Deacons, Wolnir, Crystal Sage, Greatwood. The world is boring and uninspired, just generic Dark Souls areas linked together (oh we need an undead town and then a forest and then a swamp and then a skeleton area etc.) with no imagination or creativity put into it. There's no enjoyment to be found in the first 20 hours of this game. It's a chore. It's a bad game and the worst game in the series. This game doesn't get shit on enough for how bad it is.

>>724940151 (OP)
Git gud, shitter

OK

>>724940151 (OP)
All of this is false btw

>>724940325
Shut up and fuck off.
>a hurr durr filtered get good
No. It's a bad game. I can beat the game but it's bad and unenjoyable to do so because it's a bad game. Nobody talking in good faith enjoys this dogshit. Only mindless drooling FromSoft fanboys who have zero critical thought could enjoy this dogshit game. It's objectively badly designed, unimaginative and uncreative

>>724940151 (OP)
it is incredibly generic but people are afraid of admitting they enjoy procedurally generated slop like this

>>724940151 (OP)
I agree. The first playthrough was ok, the second one was fine too, I can't bear it anymore after 40 hours. Couldn't make it past Vordt, it was too much of a nuisance. Same with Elden Ring and Bloodborne. DS2 broke me, it's genuinely the only Souls game I still find fun to play.

>>724940151 (OP)
Skill issue, pal

>>724940151 (OP)
>zoomer is confronted with linear, focused game design
>has to actually pay attention because there's no open world 20 minute gap of just walking
lemao

>>724940529
See >>724940441 retard.

>>724940525
Bloodborne and ER at least have creativity in their worlds. This dogshit game is so bland and uninspired. It's like if an AI was told to make a DS game

>>724940151 (OP)
>It has a chain of the worst areas in the series: Undead Settlement, Road of Sacrifices, Farron Keep, Catacombs, Irithyll Dungeon are all terrible areas
No they are not
>It has dogshit bosses like Deacons, Wolnir, Crystal Sage, Greatwood.
Only 2 of those are bad
>The world is boring and uninspired, just generic Dark Souls areas linked together (oh we need an undead town and then a forest and then a swamp and then a skeleton area etc.)
They are all connected through the same themes and narrative structure.
The Undead Settlement is growing huge trees due to the curses, the evangelists of the Cathedral of the Deep purge the inhabitants with flames to clease them from the abyssal curse and dumped bodies of caged hollows in a pit that generated Greatwood. A group of battlemages joined the Farron guard and trasmuted into satyrs due to their blood pact linking their souls, with Farron Keep itself hosting the souls of those who died and the eldest members being able to cast wraiths of their fallen comrades.
It's all very atmospheric and nearly tied up together, you are just biased against it.
Also what do you mean there's nothing in the maps? Every map has important loot for several builds

>>724940525
Liking Dark Souls 2 should be classified as mental disorder and this thread is evidence of it

>>724940151 (OP)
Filtered

>>724940151 (OP)
ur dumb and ghey

>extremely linear
>bloated map

>drooling FS fanboys have zero critical thought
Yawn

>>724940864
>psychology is pseudoscientific dogshit for subhuman retards
yeah i know that already

>ctrl + F
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>90 results

Dark Souls 2 fags strike again, no one likes your game bro.

>>724940864
3 is not fun.

>>724940767
>No they are not
What is enjoyable about these areas to you? The boring dull brown and gray colour pallettes? The HP bloated enemies spammed everywhere? The shitty gimmicks like moving slowly through a poison swamp Kaizo spammed with Newts and other enemies? The catacombs spammed with skeletons that revive and is somehow more boring than the catacombs in DS1 to traverse?

>>724941021
>more time sunk = more fun!!!
I guess mmochads were not in fact wasting their precious time on this earth...

>>724941928
I don't understand what you are saying.

>>724940151 (OP)
>big bloated maps spammed with enemies everywhere with no thought put into enemy placement. The best way to play this game is to run as fast as you can through each area to get to the next boss because there's nothing worthwhile to be found in the bloated maps. It's a boss rush game.
This right here tells me everything i need to know. Simply you are a low skill and low iq player. I bet you didnt even fight the two wolves on the bridge in central yharnam.


>>724940529
oh thats my pic. Glad to see a fellow DS3 enjoyer. This game does not deserve the slander it gets.

>>724941061
>What is enjoyable about these areas to you?
They are fun
>The boring dull brown and gray colour pallettes?
False
>The HP bloated enemies spammed everywhere?
Nah git gud
>The shitty gimmicks like moving slowly through a poison swamp Kaizo spammed with Newts and other enemies?
It's not a shitty gimmick, it's great. You actually have to move properly around basilisk and lure enemies on dry ground and fires
>The catacombs spammed with skeletons that revive and is somehow more boring than the catacombs in DS1 to traverse?
It's a great area and you can even disable the boulders of skeletons early if you know several tricks. They have traps you can use on enemies and great enemy.mobs like the Carthus swordsman, that are very unique agile low poise elite mobs
Maybe learn to play and you won't dread finding interesting and fun enemies to fight

>>724941021
I think it's pretty fun

>>724942441
How? I personally don't play pvp and the mods were not that great.

>>724942350
It's such a memorable line.

Bloodborne was the game they wanted to make, DS3 was a contractual obligation
And it shows
It's sad that people are too dumb to realize this

Why are DS2fags so insufferable?

>>724942608
I made like 20 different builds and did a bunch of PvP, the fight clubs and invasions of DS3 were legendary. Despite not having the soulful singleplayer experience of DS1 I still think it's where FromSoftware peaked.

>>724940151 (OP)
Shitter

I genuinely cannot fathom how anybody who played Bloodborne first when it came out and the other previous games could possibly like Dark Souls 3, the gameplay and aesthetic is such an enormous step down from BB despite clearly reusing tons of assets and thoughtlessly speeding up the combat to be more like BB without making any of the important adjustments BB did to make it more enjoyable, and literally everything in the game is a lazy retreat of something they already did better in DeS, DaS1 or BB, there isnt a single original moment or idea in the entire game. Its also genuinely one of the ugliest games ive ever played, the other Souls games all have fantastic art direction except 2 but 3 looks like someone mixed up the contents of an ash tray worh a jar of mustard and slathered it all over a bunch of melted plastic

The fact that 3 released AFTER Bloodborne is genuinely amazing, everything about it feels like an awkward transition between the old Souls style and the new fast paced more linear style but somehow it released AFTER Bloodborne already did every single aspect far better

>>724943289
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Blow it out your ass.

>>724943289
I like Dark Souls 3 more because I'm not a shitter filtered by dodgerolls and more endlag
Dark Souls 3 is massively better than Bloodborne. It has better enemies, better combat, better PVP, better parry, better levels, better world and better bosses.
If you don't like Souls gameplay you will certainly like Bloodborne more because it's a more casual easy going and basic experience for an underdeveloped template, and that's clearly what you are after going by your last paragraph

>>724943452
>too retarded to read a literal three sentence post
>too retarded to imagine an image coming from Google images
Das3fags everyone

>>724943289
Bloodborne is pretty much very similar but feels like a bad template for DaSIII which is not impressive at all.

>>724941021
If you are a shitter that doesn't understand Souls games, Dark Souls 3 can't be fun to you. There's no gay Havel armor and retarded enemies with muh pseudo-metroidvania window dressing, Dark Souls 3 is a pure Souls Action RPG. You don't like it because you don't like Souls games

>>724943543
Dodgerolls are far stupider looking, clunkier feeling and less immersive in high speed combat than the dash in Bloodborne but its funny to try and act like this regression is somehow a positive. More difficult does not magically equal better and even then the max depth chalice dungeons and the DLC are both more difficult than anything in DaS3, and the pvp in both is some of the worst in the series but BBs is still easily better.

>>724943783
>using DSP to prove a point
Do anti-DS3fags really?

>>724943909
argue the webm not the messenger

>>724943985
>looks at webm again
>its still DSP

>>724943985
Ok, it's a swamp area in a Souls game. What now?

>>724943289
Bloodborne is just DS3 without the challenging bosses or variety of builds to slap invaders. Sure it's a little faster lmao but it has no point if the boss fights suck and online is pretty much nonexistent.

>>724940151 (OP)
yeah DS3 is an ugly, linear piece of shit but at least it's got some really good boss fights

>>724944358
>challenging bosses

>>724941021
what fucking language is this?

>>724943794
I never talked about difficulty, dodgerolls are better because they incentivize you to be mindful about how you use it and you have a lot more versatility on your positioning regardless of using lock on or not with a fixed dodgeroll, while they get the point that you shouldn't be using it offensively at all times by delaying your attacks.
You like it because it's more casual and incentivizes you to dodge and attack as main strategy. The way ranges, endlag and enemy stuns are designed in Dark Souls 3 was uniquely built to be the actual foundation of Souls gameplay. It's an actual ARPG so there's a lot of unique interactions through stun states and staggers and movesets that are a lot more readable to avoid, but also have prolonged attack patterns designed to punish the recovery frames of a dodge.
This is not a thing in Bloodborne. It's your run of the mill action game with some directional dodges that are very much incentivized by enemies that attack at double the speed but half the actual mechanical variety as Dark Souls 3 enemies.
You like it because it's less Fromsoftware and more of generic basic action game, not the other way around.

>>724944358
Thinking that the entire point of Souls games is le epic boss fights and the shitty pvp and not the actual areas themselves and the atmosphere is the problem, and genuinely all of the areas in dark souls 3 are complete shit in terms of aesthetics, level design and atmosphere. I have no idea where this meme of 3 having good boss fights came from, almost all of them are totally forgettable shit and the standouts are usually just ripping off a boss from Bloodborne which has some of the best fights in the series

>>724944656
The areas of Dark Souls 3 are great

i thought the important lore town was good, the one with the bridge but this was literally too maymay
the game is too maymay. rip

>>724944656
The "point of Souls" (Dark Souls is not the first Souls game nor an authority on game design) is both areas and enemies, especially enemies.
It's a combat Action RPG and if you don't like fighting enemies in it the games are not for you

>>724944656
>your headcanon is wrong my headcanon is right
why are you all like this

>>724943783
>Uses spook
>Still gets his shit rocked when he rolls near enemies because they aren't retarded faggots like Shit Souls 2 mobs

>>724940151 (OP)
TRVKE

DaS 3 will always be a stinker. Worst PvP in the series too.

>>724944653
You have no clue what you are talking about. In terms of stun states and such Bloodborne is far more advanced with its limb breaking system that makes bosses far more reactive than in dark souls 3 where youre generally just wailing on a hit box. Your point on dodgerolling would make sense if we were talking about Demons Souls or Dark Souls 1 but you can absolutely spam the dark souls 3 dodge MORE than the bloodborne dodge, it has more i frames and you said has more freedom in positioning, which tou warp into being a positive while also saying the Bloodborne dodge is worse because its stronger. BB has much more reactivity and depth, not to mention that every weapon has more than twice as many attacks at its disposal at any given time. If you played the game at all you obviously only played it once or just dont know about any of its more intricate mechanics, and again youre leaning on "more difficult = more good" which isnt even true, das3 is piss easy. BB isnt very difficult either but the cursed defiled, pthumeru ithyll and any FRC chalices are easily the most difficult content in the series, and the DLC is definitely more challenging than anything in 3, but even if this werent the case it wouldn't matter because it wouldnt make up for 3s gameplay feeling like shit, its visuals looking like shit, its level design being shit and it being objectively devoid of a single original idea

>>724944874
>is both areas and enemies
Obviously and I didnt deny this, enemies dont just equal the bosses and the enemies in the areas are only as good as the areas theyre places in and dark souls 3 level design is shit as are most of its enemies. More than anything the issue is that every area in 3 (and most of its enemies) are a shitty pastiche of something already done far better earlier in the series

>>724940151 (OP)
Didn't read, sry. Love DS3!

>>724940151 (OP)
>>724940525
Low IQ.

>>724945121
>Bloodborne is far more advanced with its limb breaking system
No it's not. Bloodborne limb breaking system is awful and only serves to have the player wipe shit bosses that collapse while getting wiped. It's a bad attempt at expanding tail cuts that ended up getting bosses dps checked.
Dark Souls 3 ACTUALLY introduced proper stagger for most enemies and ripostes for a good amount of them. It also introduced player poise bound to hyperarmored attacks with unique multipliers and damage reduction modifiers. This could have made some trick weapon moves actually useful but it's completely missing so you never have anything as useful as Stomp

Dark Souls 3 actually recycled the limb system for unique interactions that are good, like unique attacks in specific hurtboxes during specific animations setting up instantaneous staggers (also used in Elden Ring), but the concept of staggers directly tied to the damage of weapons was completely dropped by Fromsoftware because of shit like thus
https://youtu.be/_qlce9PTof8?si=3kBVP_qNkykMfV97
Nothing about how Bloodborne handles combat and enemies is better than Dark Souls 3. It's way inferior.

>>724945297
Git gud

>>724945364
>>724940978

>>724940151 (OP)
I just don't get the point of playing 3 when the rest of the Fromsoft souls catalog exists. Dark Souls 3 is a strange transition point, and Demon's, Bloodborne, and Elden Ring especially all do different things 3 is trying to do, but better.
It has literally two fun levels, perhaps 10 fun bosses, and the npc quests are the most obtuse they've ever been. That's why there are eternal threads with scrap fights between 2 and 3, because it's on that same level (and doesn't even have the novelty of 2)

>>724945710
>genuinely trying to argue that dark souls 3 poise is a positive
>implying trick attacks are bad
The trick attack is a contendor for the single strongest attack on almost every weapon in Bloodborne, and tons of weapons have hyperarmor on stronger attacks - the Kirkhammer in particular comes to mind. Again youre ignoring that DaS3 weapons also have less than half as many moves as any trick weapon in Bloodborne, and again you claim youre not just using muh difficulty as an argument when youre claiming the limb system is a bad thing because it makes bosses "easier". It makes them more reactive beyond being a giant hitbox you mash R1 against, rewards more strategic gameplay beyond R1 spam and makes more niche attacks much more useful than they would otherwise be.

>>724941021
wtf is this languange?

>>724940151 (OP)
This but elden ring. Open world can go fuck itself if its not an sandbox. DS 3 was just beginning downward spiral for fromsoftware.

>>724944651
>>724946307
Used google to determine it's Finnish.

>>724940151 (OP)
never ask a ds2 zoomer the steam player count of his game

>>724941021
good morning saar

>>724946439
>finno-ugric
Ah, thought it was something terrible as that. Thx anon

wait when is the yearly ds3 /v/eplay?

>>724946636
Dark Souls 3 fags always accusing 3s detractors of being Dark Souls 2 fags is exactly like Indians always accusing each other of being Pakistani while trve aryan Demons Souls, Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne Chad's laugh

>>724946983
bloodsois are damn lucky it's never going to get a pc port because it would be exposed HARD as a total 6/10 nothing burger

>>724940151 (OP)
Didn't read+git gud faggot.

>>724947132
>a-anyday now
Keep seething that after ten years its still one of the most highly regarded entries, and only got further positive attention upon becoming possible to emulate while there's absolutely no reason to go back and play 3. Also you have to latch onto BB because youre still fighting a long dead console war nobody gives a shit about despite me putting Dark Souls and Demons Souls on equal footing with it.

>>724946263
>>genuinely trying to argue that dark souls 3 poise is a positive
It is
>>implying trick attacks are bad
They are

>>724944656
Yeah thats not how it works retard. Yes the focus is on the story world & atmosphere but you dont just brush aside the shitty bossfights and terrible combat just because. They are integral to all games and the whole gameplay loop revolves around you leveling up yourself to get stronger with each bossfight.

It seems /v/ forgot the """play""" in "gameplay"

>>724947616
Hitler was highly regarded.

>>724947616
NTA but the game itself isnt as special as its made out to be. The DLC really carries the game and upholds its reputation

On the contrary, this game is a 10/10. Dark Souls 3 is the best game Fromsoft has designed, in terms of what a pure game is.

Dark Souls 3 seems to have no flaws, its gameplay is tightly controlled by linear progression, linear and formulaic level designs, and a basic boss design. Its difficulty curve is constantly going upwards in order for players to learn how to play, there's no difficulty spike.

As you can see, it really has no flaws. Its problem is precisely that. There are no memorable moments, no unreasonable difficulty spikes that shock players, no janky but charming mechanical designs that make it distinctive from other games, no obscurity on how to upgrade things or complicated knowledge that the community can discuss about, nothing like that. It's the Dark Souls that was made in a laboratory, the Dark Souls that was made to appeal to everyone and maximize profit. If AI could come up with a Dark Souls game by its own, it would be like Dark Souls 3.

>>724940151 (OP)
Nah DS3 is pretty great.

>>724949524
Shut up retard

>>724952091
what point are you trying to make with this?

>>724940151 (OP)
Trash OP couldn't even beat 3. Kek

>>724940151 (OP)
Dude what if berserk reference but as a game.

Also fuck this game for twin weapons doing less damage than single weapons in general.
Literally forsake a shield or any defense just to do less damage.
Somehow 2 katana does less damage than hitting with one.
Twin weapons in general were an insult after they'd already added proper dual wielding.
This game also introduced the "press button to awesome" slop that elden ring amplified.

It had some cool bosses but not enough to save it from being a shitty berserk fan game.

>>724954249
This nigga hates Berserk. Call him a faggot.

>>724954328
Dark souls 3 is sadly the best game berserk has ever gotten.
I don't hate berserk but there's a difference between a subtle homage and just completely jamming it into every corner to the detriment of the games identity and original aesthetics.

Also, guts and Griffith have had cock in their asses and are both canonically cucks
If anything, you're a faggot for liking berserk.
Goosh goosh.

>>724955054
I wish he read and rip off more European history instead of just jamming Berserk references here and there.

>>724954249
>>724955054
I don't remember berserker man doing faggy rolls though?

>>724956428
Correct which is why it's a shitty fan game.

>>724955054
Why can't he just abandon Berserk and make his lore make sense? I hate that manga and anime and wish he abolishes it for more sophisticated lit and media.

>>724940151 (OP)
good thread OP. atleast it will be for a while before ds3 trannies shit this thread.