Thread 724958936

I've been living under a rock, just learned DA is unironically fucking dead. Was the new game really THAT bad?
Did it at least serve as a decent conclusion to the series? Also did the Warden finally show up?

dragon age had an amazingly long run considering the first game was the only one worth playing and everything else was trash

>>724960041
Inquisition wasn't bad but it wasn't even remotely close to the same species as Origins. The parasite had already got in.

>>724958936 (OP)
The new game literally has nothing to do with anything before it

>>724958936 (OP)
>the series
nigga "this series" is 1 good game and a steady decline into tranny mediocrity, the only decent conclusion you can get is beating Origins and pretending the other games don't exist

>>724960371
This can't be real

>>724958936 (OP)
I put over 1,000 hours in the first 3 and even enjoyed Inquisition, but I couldn't stand Veilguard for even an hour.

>>724958936 (OP)
The game deleted the choices from all the other games it also was very boring.

>>724961454
what is this exactly

>>724961925
unfinished "lore note" from Veilguard. the stellar writing team at Bioware couldn't be bothered to actually finish/write this note out, it's just someone's outline for what the note should say.

>>724958936 (OP)
they unironically killed everything in the world

Yes they forgot that video games are supposed to be fun and interesting and not a vehicle to spout your Pfizer sponsored loony troon doctrine

>>724958936 (OP)
>Was the new game really THAT bad?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6YD-BVdAeg
>Did it at least serve as a decent conclusion to the series?
Loghain was a puppet of the previously unseen gay Illuminati that controlled him to further their own ends.
Also, Ferelden is destroyed.
> Also did the Warden finally show up?
Lol

>>724960371
100% FALSE
it is revealed (in the end credits) that a never before shown or even mentioned intergalactic faction of mystery niggas is behind ALL major plot points of the dragon age games

>>724958936 (OP)
>Was the new game really THAT bad?
Yes
>Did it at least serve as a decent conclusion to the series? Also did the Warden finally show up?
No and everything from previous games got destroyed by a Blight so even if there were somehow more games set after it'd essentially be a different series. The Warden is even more MiA than before and Morrigan is now a turbo slut ("more lovers than trees in a forest").

>>724963160
>Morrigan is now a turbo slut ("more lovers than trees in a forest")
Oh no, they fucking didn't

>>724963476
lol of course they did, every woman has to be a slut in games now because IRL roasties are intimidated by virtual women who have a modicum of self control

>>724958936 (OP)
does your rock have decent air conditioning?

>>724958936 (OP)
Dragon Age has literally always been bad. Origins is the only halfway decent game in the franchise and even then it's really mediocre and only noteworthy for how good the party banter is, and how much of it there is. The combat and character building is shallow as fuck especially for how much combat the game actually throws at you and the setting is so shitty and uninspired nobody even likes half of the fucking areas in the game.

>>724962109
It's not outline. It's finished (by Devs) note how a character is trying to justify it's mental illness (said character did not finish the note)

>>724963107
>behind the first blight
>behind loghain betraying the king
>behind kirkwall getting fucked
>behind the veil getting torn in inquisition
>even the ancient elves were scared of them
Whew, now that's a really spooky villain. I sure can't wait to see what they do.
>>724963476

>>724963752
You mean that note is actually in the game? Like if I play it right now, I'm gonna come across it?

>>724963671
The setting was good. Despite containing all the generics of Elves and Dwarves and Humans, the Dwarves are almost extinct and the Elves are in literal Pogroms and all is presented with ample history and flavour to ground everything into believability. Compared with Pillars of Eternity, whose world was flat and unconvincing, you can feel that Thedas had thousands of hours of writing and thinking poured into it.

>>724964053
That's just subverting popular fantasy tropes by reversing them, it isn't clever or good, it's just lazy.

>>724958936 (OP)
>Was the new game really THAT bad?
>Did it at least serve as a decent conclusion to the series?

>>724958936 (OP)
I quit the game as soon as the quirk-chungus elf appeared
Fucking embarrassing

>>724958936 (OP)
it wasn't THAT bad but it was bad in a specifically triggering way

>>724964014
>pic
that seems like some sort of hearsay, is it? not that it excuses it, fucker who wrote that knew exactly what he was doing, but at least it's not morrigan herself saying it. considering it can't refer to before she met the warden, and i don't think he's dead or, worse, a cuck, i'll continue believing she's not a slut. i won't allow trannies to ruin morrigan for me

>>724958936 (OP)
it was a concord level flop, you had shills running their computer 24/7 to try to prop it up, imagiine hundred of positive reviews the moment the game launch having 72 hours logged in after 3 days, if you look at the steam chart curve it looks like people were playing the game 24/7 during its launch

>>724963160
>>724964014
>>724964340
that's why you shouldn't let a literal troon direct your game

>>724964025
Yes.

>>724960041
THIS, it never managed to get a consistent ''style'', hell the qunari are different in every game

>>724961454
The same guy who wrote Taash wrote Tali, Jack, and Mordin in ME2, and Solas in DAI (the best part of that game). Probably the biggest example of brainrot I've seen.

>>724967698
That... is really sad to learn

>>724967781
Yes, it really is. Tali is one of my favorite characters in all of vidya.
Of course he also goes by them/they now and is "pansexual" and "non-binary"

>>724958936 (OP)
Devs decided to take a huge shit on everything the fans loved because they kept telling them they couldn't be a woman and killed biowere as a result, the company with 30 years of history that created some of the best rpgs ever.

>>724965201
>it was a concord level flop
Nah. Not that bad it had “1.5 million players.” But that was still well within flop territory given the dev time and budget. >>724958936 (OP)
The writing is really, really terrible. Both uninteresting, annoying and condescending by turns. The gameplay is nothing amazing and has real issues left over from its time as a live service game, but is competent enough to have served if the game had a story or characters people gave a shit about.

>>724969141
I had fun with DAI, how is Veilguard's writing compared to it?

>>724958936 (OP)
Did the Warden finally show up?
Nothing the warden did mattered Ferelden was destroyed by a blight anyway and Morrigan is a slut with more lovers than trees

I remember before launch people were at least looking forward to romancing Harding and to the sex scene but I haven't seen literally anything about it since. I guess the game really was THAT bad.

>>724969950
Harding has sex with Taash the writer dev self-insert

>>724969250
a lot worse. the main quest is bland but competent, the character side quests content is garbage

>>724970089
Wat. Elaborate.

>>724969250
DAI is Vastly better. It’s not even close. Companions in DAI actually have struggles and aspirations and the MC and they can disagree and even get into fights. In Veilguard you get three dialogue options when dealing with companions “Be supportive, be jokingly supportive, be cautiously supportive.” Not to mention the overall plot takes the most boring and repetitious route possible (it’s all elves and always was) in an effort to wrap absolutely everything in the series up.

>>724970358
Do you know how if you don't romance Garrus or Tali in ME3 they end up together? Same thing with Harding and Taash.

>>724958936 (OP)
The funniest thing is that the director left the studio after finishing the game.
She literally is the captain who sank the ship, jumping off first to save herself, leaving all the crew members to their fate and getting away with it.

>ruined mass effect by cutting corners and releasing in early access
>ruined dragon age by going lame and gay
>ruined bf with woke ww2 and rushed 2042
>ape sex legends is woke as well
>refuse to make titanfall 3 or bring medal of honor back
>saudis: holy shit that's at least $50bn right there

>>724970712
>She literally is the captain who sank the ship
How? She was director, what, 3 or 4? That came in at the end to finish up the pieces after the 3rd time EA had demanded they remake the entire game.

>>724958936 (OP)
>Was the new game really THAT bad?
yes. Story is very childish and combat braindead rollslop with three max abilities. The companions are just illusions. Because they are invulnerable they don't hold aggro properly so mobs have this weird peekaboo ai. It's padded out with comically easy repeating door puzzles and only good thing is full strand hair tech but that's just leftover from EA engine sports games

>>724970712
>she
bro...

How did they handle the whole Tevinter being run by hardcore slavers and all?

>>724960201
>Inquisition wasn't bad

>>724971813
>And then they all died

>>724972332
You can't be serious

>>724972762
More or less. Turns out it was just a few bad apples all along. The cult killed those to take over. Then you kill the cult.
Everyone lived happily ever after.

>>724971813
Apparently the leader of Tevinter in the end is either Dorian, the gay guy from Inquisition, or a tranny from the books. Both are anti-slavery. Apparently slavery isn't shown in game anyway.

>>724971813
They were misunderstood dindu the whole time

>>724971134
I remember that she was the director during the last 2 or 3 years of the game's development. The Veilguard thing was EA's crap. First, Bioware had written a good game. There were rumors that everyone who played the “alpha” version of that game thought it was going to be a unique game, but then EA demanded that the studio turn the game into a battle royale. Obviously, Bioware complained, but they had already sold their soul to the devil. The worst part is that the orangutans at EA, who have never programmed a line of code in their lives, demanded that the battle royale be developed on top of what they already had, in order to save time and resources. Spoiler alert: it didn't work, and they had to start from scratch. I remember that several Bioware developers left the studio around that time. After that stupidity and seeing that battle royales weren't working because everyone was only playing Fortnite, EA decided to go back to making the RPG, but again they asked Bioware to do it based on what they had already developed with battle royale. That's what we got, and that's why Veilguard's gameplay is garbage, but the game could still have been saved if they had made a good story, and that's when Corinne Busche came in with all the woke garbage and mastectomy scars. You could say she was the gravedigger who finished burying Dragon Age.

Btw, she was hired at Wizard of the Coast, and seeing how things are there, she's probably going to do great.

>>724971631
Don't tell me...
Damn, seriously?
OMG

>>724974170
Yep.
Also left BioWare for Wizards of the Coast a few months ago, and is rumored to be leading development on a forgotten D&D title. By the way, before Veilguard the highest profile game he worked on was Sims 4, it's amazing how these people always fall upwards.

I've read that Veilguard both has nothing to do with the previous games and also that it serves as a sort of conclusion to plot threads from previous games, which is it?

>>724976197
It resolves plot threads from Inquisition which resolves threads from 2. They aren't the focus though, it's more like those plots are used as spring boards for entirely new and less interesting ones.

>>724976197
Think of it like "Godzilla levels Tokyo with nuclear breath" both is a kind of a conclusion to "Which political party wins the election to enact their vision for Tokyo" and also is not.

>>724958936 (OP)
>Did it at least serve as a decent conclusion to the series?
Veilguard explicitly tells you the areas from DA:O and 2 have been completely destroyed by the Blight so nothing you did in those games mattered. They also say all the important decisions in those games like Loghains betrayal were in fact caused my magic shadow niggas no one knew about until then. Its literally a hate letter for DA fans and Origins ones in particular.

"One day in October 2017, Laidlaw summoned his colleagues into a conference room and pulled out a few pricey bottles of whisky. The next Dragon Age sequel, he told the room, would also be pivoting to an online, live-service game — a decision from above that he disagreed with. He was resigning from the studio. The assembled staff stayed late through the night, drinking and reminiscing about the franchise they loved."

>>724958936 (OP)
DA died after Awakening.

>>724981660
trvke

>>724974008
EA may have fucked over the early iterations of Dreadwolf, but the last 4 years, after the last failed EA idea did not pay off were purely hands off. Nothing was stopping Bioware from picking back up the original script. Nothing was stopping Bioware from doing just a halfway competent job except themselves. They had 4 years on Veilguard where EA left them alone. That was out of 10 years total working on the title. 4 years is more than enough time to produce something decent, and they couldn't.

People need to stop cutting Bioware slack, just like they needed to quit cutting Obsidian slack. There is a point where you have to look at the time lines and the product produced and admit, "Yeah, this isn't the publishers fault."

>>724964539
>>it wasn't THAT bad but it was bad in a specifically triggering way
No, it was that bad. The action combat was downright awful. Damage sponge enemies, awful AI, terrible targeting system that played like a broken Bamham game, companions that were reduced to equipped skills in combat, a radial slowmo menu for abilities that interrupted the flow of combat and didn't help ... we gave up on RTwP for this shit. Not to mention how things like the music and sound effects are all awful, nothing sounds memorable, the VAs do a terrible job all around, though I can't fault them too much with how awful the writing was, but still. Don't get me started on the puzzles, the level design and the character designs. Trash.

>>724960041
this

>>724967698
>Solas in DAI (the best part of that game)

>>724969250
>>I had fun with DAI

>>724960041
The different games managed to pick up different fanbases even as they pissed off other fans. Veilguard managed to finally come up with a game with no fanbase at all.

>>724958936 (OP)
>the series
The first game was fine but most people never liked the sequels. I guess the third game sold okay but everyone forgot about it pretty soon.

WHY IN GOOD GOD IS EVERY MOD IN NEXUS, I DON'T WANT TO USE THAT FUCKING SITE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHH

>>724967698
>solas
>the entire character is elves are responsible for eveything and you didn’t make shit, goyim

>>724986339
>The different games managed to pick up different fanbases
There was no fanbase after Inquisition.

>>724976197
It doesn't so much resolve them as make them part of a bigger plotline that they are "setting up" for. Technically yes it wraps it up but There's More™. It's the gayest way to shit on the legacy of the franchise further.

What's funny about the veilguard hate is that 99% of the haters haven't touched a Dragon age game in the past and if they did it was just DAO to use as a dating sim.

Actual dragon age fans love Veilguard.
If you actually played inquisition then Veilguard shouldn't bother you because the inquisition "I'M A TRANS MAN! HEAR ME ROAR!" is way worse than Taash non binary shit.

You're all no life losers desperate for drama and social interactions and you should all blow your brains out.

i liked the world building for Ferelden

stuff like the nobility, with Banns, Arls and Teyrns

really neat

If /v/ had their way with Dragon Age it will just be maximum grimderp where the Darkspawn are just raping women and feeding them to broodmothers left and right. All the women will have bare tits out and the men will all look like chiseled gigachads and the gore will be turned up to 11. Along with a customizable companion that the PC has sex with constantly. The combat will be numberfaggotry of the highest order, where investing into your skills unoptimally will permanently lock you out in some areas without the game ever mentioning it but also there will be encounters that are meant to fuck you over for min-maxing a single-stat or two. That's it. That's /v/agon Age.

>>724986778
I disagree. And that's where the initial sales of Veilguard came from. A lot of it was non-traditional for gamers though, there's a reason female elf has the moist potential love interests in DAI. But VG didn't even get positive word of mouth from that quarter.

>>724986976
>>Actual dragon age fans love Veilguard.
Only the truest of thugs loved Veilguard, true.

>>724987309
>I disagree
Veilguard proves otherwise.

>>724987031
That's okay but uhh... as of Veilguard all of Ferelden is gone :)

>>724986976
Bullshit. Krem is a sidekick of a companion and you have to push them to talk about trans shit in the first place and its brief regardless. No one is doing "Barves" in Inquisition.

>>724968374
>lost his mind
>gets fired
>now picks fights with nobodies on the internet

this is just sad.

>>724986976
You seem upset

>>724987309
This is delusional.
Initial sales were somewhere around 250k.
Corinne Busche said in an IGN interview that they just couldn't sell Veilguard. 1.5 million "engaged" players means nothing. They put it on PSN for free and people preferred playing the TMNT game over it. Inquisition killed Dragon Age, but you were too busy sucking Solas' dick with your other trannies in your tumblr hugbox to notice it was dead.
Cope harder faggot

>>724987576
Veilguard sold okay for a few weeks and then dropped like a rock as bad word of mouth spread. A fair number of people were honestly looking forward to Dreadwolf.

>>724987975
>couldn't sell VG

did they even try? The first trailer felt like it was trying to sell a gay hero shooter.

>>724988017
>>Veilguard sold okay
Come on, Schreier-kun. Don't try to bullshit us here. Your game crashed and burned.

>>724988120
I am in no way defending Veilguard. It sucks.

>>724987606
i only played the first one anyway

>>724988261
Then stop.

>>724986976
Inquisition sucked too but at least you could send the tranny to its death.

>>724958936 (OP)
>Was the new game really THAT bad?
Yes. It was bad enough to fire black people and homosexuals and strong wymon on the spot.

It would have been worst bomb of the year if not for Ubisoft and Concord.

Taash is probably THE poster child for bad woke characters, beating out Yasuke and Bazz.

>>724960041
First post, observant post. especially considering EA's infamous hair trigger.

>>724967698
>Solas in DAI (the best part of that game)
Overweight white female hands typed this post

>>724988351
I never started. I am in fact defending Inquisition. A game that sold 12 million copies and won a bunch of GotY awards. Albeit in an infamously weak year for games.

>>724960371
>>724961215

Oh it's WAY fucking worse. They expicitly say ALL the shit you did in all the other games doesn't matter because everyone died offscreen.

>>724988545
>A game that sold 12 million copies
>As claimed by someone that guessed the number

>>724964025
YES.

>>724964053
the setting WAS good. They increasingly fucked up Stens people with bizzare non binaries that are an integral part of the culture, but not accpeted, but yes they're everywhere, and shit like that.

>>724964539
I would rate it mid D at the highest, as an action game. Incredibly uninspired level design.

>>724964340
Half the cast is quirk chunguses.

>>724964964
NOPE.

>>724958936 (OP)
It was dead since DA2, you are even more retarded than you thought.
The last one is so bad even brainless NPCs like you finally noticed.

>>724965201
>>724969141
AC Shadows level flop. Concord level would be if they refunded all cash.

>>724967698
>>724968374
'trick weeks last I checked was still there, and fucking up new Mass Effect as we speak.

>>724969250
About as big a power gap as Origins to DAI's writing. Morrigan futa porn has more respect for the lore.

>>724988941
>>AC Shadows level flop
Shadows at least sold 2-3 million copies. We are unsure if Veilguard even broke one. Veilguard is not a Concord tier flop, but it is in a league of its own.

>>724969950
According to the employees, sex with harding would have been "problematic". Exploitation of little people. So they worked their asses off so that any romance would have as little heterosexual appeal as possible, and it shows.

>>724988941
>>'trick weeks last I checked was still there, and fucking up new Mass Effect as we speak.
He was let go. Corinne Busche joined a WotC studio, I think Beambog, and John Epler was moved to a different EA studio.

>>724971134
The tranny in question claims all credit and responsibility in interviews that christmas season claiming to have "defeated the chuds".

>>724972762
NOPE. Just some violent outliers, that was justified because of discrimination, but it doesn't matter now anyways. They are quite serious. Just like you have Civ 7 removing slavery AND having Harriet tubman as a civ leader at the same time.

>>724958936 (OP)
Yes, no, no.
Replay da:o or try 2 or inq if you havent played them but theyre not the same, though 2 is fun in it's own way, and inq normies loved, though I thought it was pretty bad. Congrats on getting out of prison.

>>724974008
>Btw, she was hired at Wizard of the Coast, and seeing how things are there, she's probably going to do great.
Given Busche's track record, and WOTC's track record and their current people? I'm expecting LEGENDS to be made. It won't be concord bad because they simply won't spend that kind of money, but I'm expecting shit at LEAST as bad as Ubi's bombfest of last year.

>>724976197
Their idea of 'resolve' is, new mysterious bad guy was actually responsible for EVERYTHING, and all your decisions in all other games didn't matter at all.

>>724986976
This anon is barving it up for everyone.

>>724987145
Sounds great. Can you suggest games like that?

>>724988017
Closer to selling ok for a single weekend. 90k peak for a AAA from a big title sequel, from a big team, from fucking EA with full AAA level ad campaign? That's not even one good week.

>>724989041
Shadows has no official player numbers, and I'm accounting for the difference in budgets. But you're corrrect.

>>724958936 (OP)
>Was the new game really THAT bad?
It was worse.
>Did it at least serve as a decent conclusion to the series?
No. In fact, it actively shits on the established lore.
>Also did the Warden finally show up?
Never even gets mentioned apart from vague references to the first game. And because there's no savegame import, none of the major choices from the last three games are accounted for.
The only reason to play that utter abortion is to understand how well and truly dead the series is, and Bioware by extension.

>>724960041
FPBP, my thoughts exactly. I'm shocked it got another game after 2. Bioware can't make follow up games, they all fuckin suck

>>724988941
weekes was shitcanned

>>724989572
It's a joke.

>>724988017
>A fair number of people were honestly looking forward to Dreadwolf
Isn't Inquisition BioWare's best selling game?

They took a fat shit on everything good about the series and replaced it with turbo gay AIDS ridden FAGGOTRY

>>724964340
I'm genuinely surprised anyone would ever purchase this game for any purpose other than outrage farming

>>724987145
So you liked the new one I take it? Is that what origins was to you? I wanted more of that, they did it with awakening, 2 was a departure but its closer than where we are now which is so far away from the inspiration for the series and what should be the cornerstone, it no longer has an identity. I dislike the direction the games have gone and yeah part of it is the tone but even the first game had gay relationships and everyone loved it, no ones cares until you ruin the franchise they like and try to forcefeed political messaging simultaneously.

And some of you fags cope by saying 2 was good
A steaming pile of shit is better than Veilguard because it can be used as fertilizer whereas Veilguard is useless to its own setting and series
>A game where you can't aggravate anyone because they're all hecking valid
POTTERY

>>724990179
>Isn't Inquisition BioWare's best selling game?
Are we counting the free giveaways in the EA store, Epic Game Store, the promotion of giving it away with nvidia series 10XX cards, PSN store giveaways etc, and how it had a lifetime of 11 years so far, across 7 platforms, and the only thing to go by is some guy that doesn't work at EA saying a number? Sure.

>>724989868
>Bellara tows the line between
lel they can't fucking write

>>724990212
I didn't buy it. I had a month sub to EA Pass or whatever its called

>>724989868
>hecking loves his cawfee

>>724990607
Gween tea.

>>724989868
Im actually kind of attracted the trans horned woman thing have I been corrupted? maybe i will play this game after all...

>>724990672
Watch her throwing a tantrum at her mum, see if she's still attractive
Someone post it

Veilguard was fun. I liked it. idk what everyone is talking about in hating the game, except they mention that Taash is uggo or whatever, which I don't care about.

>>724989868
What were they hoping to achieve with the nigger elf warden with a gryphon?
Stack all those DEI points, elevate him with an extinct pet because he's that special and go for male lead?

>>724987514
>Only the truest of thugs loved Veilguard, true.
100%

>>724990776
Dis you play all the games

>>724990983
Yeah. I played all of them. I like dwarves a lot, and Veilguard delivered tons of sick dwarf content. I can't think of any modern RPG that goes as far. I'd say gameplay wise VG reminds me of 2, like a better take on that. There are more hub areas, and you spend time revisiting them and doing multiple missions. The dragons are fun to fight. Good amount of skills to customize your build. I helped a friend put together a rogue with self-healing, and he was having a blast, especially against the dragons.

>>724990768
I need help EA is mindcontrolling me

>>724989868
None feel like real people you could meet in real life. Just a bunch of puppets.

>>724991454
Writers pets of the mentally ill

>>724991454
I envy you that you never met a Bellara irl.

>>724991513
Not him but I have one at work and I want her to disappear.

is it true they fucking kill off varric in troonguard

>>724992195
The one thing they did right, I was sick of him

>>724958936 (OP)
For a DEI game it's one of the mildest and best ones out there. Alan Wake 2 had 20x more political messaging. Give it a shot it's actually really enjoyable. All the females are extra cute too.

>>724960201
inquisition was pretty bad in a lot of ways, atlhough it had some things going for it. i liked exploring and there was a pretty wide range of different environments

>>724992612
No character from the previous games deserved to die in fucking veilguard though

>>724992978
They killed everyone in Ferelden, full scorched earth on the best game, yes BioWare can fuck off and die

>>724991513
Which one is that
Asian?
Also as someone who is now planning on playing this game for sex with the horned creature can I sidebar all the non fuckable party members eternally and never interact or see them? I wish one of them started in a cage like Sten so I could leave them, I never understood why that was an option until now.

Solas is such an annoying writer's pet that I can't stomach the last two games. The setting jumped the shark after his reveal
He's also the most boring direction they could have gone in for Fen'Harel instead of a youthful trickster archetype. Instead they gave that to Sera lol

>>724960880
>1 good game
1.5.
Awakening was a top tier expansion.

>>724992195
Yes and literally no one cares and the best ending is forgiving the man who murdered him

>>724995636
that's just sick

>>724968374
>from normal nerd to fat gender goblin

>>724962362
As long-time advocate for DA2 having its merits... holy cow. That was piss water. Eight minutes of piss. I will defend at least the spirit of a lot but damn.

Anyone else feel like they just hated the old lore and characters and wanted to burn it to the ground?

>>725000708
They literally did that

>>725000708
From the public statements from employees, they hated the old lore, hated the old characters, hated the fans who liked the "problematic" shit and saw this as a chance to set things right.


>>724990175
It's still a better concept than the AAA shlockfests we're getting like Outlaws, veilguard, Avowed, Outer worlds 1 and 2 and the like. Was still worth checking if you had anything or was just shitposting.

>>724990179
Keeping in mind that it counts literally free to the customer EGS giveaways as sales, yes.

>>724962362
>that video
I could only stomach two minutes, Jesus Christ. Why the fuck do they use the word "non-binary" in a medieval fantasy setting? Why does someone just interrupt a conversation to correct somebody else's pronoun usage? Why the fuck does your player character just stand there while this Taash thing tries to woo the dwarf and you can even play matchmaker? Why the fuck is Harding even a romance option in this game when Trespasser exists?
Holy shit, how is BioWare still alive after this

>>725000708
Of course. It's the standard strategy - they hate everything you like, but the thing they actually want to make would not be successful on its own nor be able to stand on its own, so they hijack the thing you like and burn it to the ground while replacing it with their bullshit
But this strategy is starting to not work anymore. They assume (and it used to be the case) that you'll just buy the thing because you like thing. It's what they count on. But that is proving to not be a guarantee more and more

>>724958936 (OP)
Here's your Warden bro

>>724968374
man what the fuck

>>724970497
was there any interparty conflict
I remember they made that a big deal in DAI

>>725003741
From what my friend told me, the ugly Qunari bullies the Vincent Price lookin fella for his necromancy.

>>724958936 (OP)
>Was the new game really THAT bad?
On top of it being the one of the most woke game of all time, they threw out all the player's actions from previous games.
So yeah, it was REALLY bad.

>>724962349
>loony troon

>>724990878
Ironically despite everything else his generically good guy + fatherly personality actually makes him the normalish guy in the group. If he actually looked like an elf and his quest line wasn't just an excuse to potentially reintroduce the gryphons as elf raised forest wardens I actually wouldn't mind him. He's kinda like dorian where every preview focuses on his DEI shit instead of the fact that dorian is a real bro

>>724960041
fpbp

>>725005106
It's a fucking insult to the wardens and fans of the first game

>>724958936 (OP)
>I've been living under a rock
for 20 years?

>>724995201
not really, it was short and the balance was totally broken. don't get me wrong I appreciate it but,

>>724968374
During pregnancy, the high estrogen levels cause up to 25% loss of brain volume. It eventually recovers afterwards due to various growth related and neuroprotective factors released afterwards.
These idiots overdose on estrogen and have no such protections. They just lose brain mass indefinitely.
Conversely ftms usually have a mild brain volume and IQ bump.

>>725005771
I actually think Davrin is one of the better written of the companions but suffers a lot from both the super special syndrome all the companions have and his godawful design(he has only two sets of armor that actually give him warrior levels of protection visually and they both feel like they lack a helmet, plus he never wears the standard GW warrior armor). I think they could have stepped back and just removed assan and he can carve out his niche as the monster hunter/tamer of the crew no problem, hell they could replace him for something that wasn't supposedly extinct and he'd do fine too(concept art showed him with a hawk iirc). The guardians of the forest decision was also kinda dumb. They frame it as giving the birds the chance to be free and live their natural lives on a new path, except instead of being warriors of the grey wardens they're now being raised by the dalish for elf wank.

>>725006741
They were all so very special writer pets that have all this shit stacked into one character to the point that it's ridiculous. Bring back gryphons, went all out

>>725006043
It was an EXPANSION. It wasn't its own game. Of course it was short by comparison. But it was more than a DLC, in fact it came on its own disc. It also was a start for what could have been an extremely new direction for the franchise after the archdemon was killed at the end of 1. A darkspawn civil war and sub factions could have been cool as fuck, as well as branching out the deep road network and furthering the reconstitution of the city and forest elves sidestory.

>>725002636
Duncan should have had the ornate dagger from David Gaider' book, the dagger which we loot in the return to ostagar dlc or alternatively the dagger we get from the alienage questline, that dagger which made Duncan immune to the darkspawn influence would have made the Warden immune as well
They just didn't care about the Warden, at all. Maybe it's for the better seeing how the rest of the game was, better to die as a darkspawn than be a part of whatever that was

DA:O
>We want nerds audience.
DA2
>Actually, we want dudebros audience.
DA:I
>Erh...We don't really know what we want.
DA:Vg
>We don't want any audience, chud!

>>724963107
You are joking, right?

Veilguard is the only good game in the series
Ao is outdated and non canon
Dall is too repetitive and unfinished
Dai is like MMO but has decent graphics and combat
Veilguard is just perfect, they learned from their mistakes.
But I still prefer bg3

>>725008890
They were already catering to SJWs in Inquisition. It's just that the pendulum hadn't swung far enough to let them completely shit on their existing audience, so they still had to make a game that people wanted
They did not care with Veilguard, assuming the audience would buy it regardless

>>725009018
It's not an intergalatic faction like the guy above said, most probably it's the people from beyond the sea (The place where qunari come from) they wanted to leave the franchise open for new games, fuck these retards there won't be new games with a flop like that
https://youtu.be/ot_NjdSgN6k?si=6Gjvg6-TDD6rSCep

>>724971813
Slavery would be problematic to depict, chud.

>>724960041
this so fucking hard
DA1 was literally the only game that got it right, DA2 was """""playable""""" but if you had been on /v/ during 2011 you already knew how that shit went.

>>724958936 (OP)
I will give you some examples of shit that is in the game.
>every companion is some manner of tumblr archetype and have that typical millennial writing shit
>The entire south of Thedas gets blight nuked and everything (aside from Orlais) is gone, including Fereldan
>every event in the series is revealed to be the doing of a faction of mystery niggas
>no slavery in tevinter
>isabella is made to do push ups for misgendering some tranny self insert "pullin a bharve"

>>725009018
He is not, but they were mentioned prior, in a war table quest in inquisition

>>725009308
(((((People From Beyond The Sea))))

Dragon Age was always supposed to be The RPG For Normies.
It was pulpy, average, basic bitch fiction all around. Nothing actually stand out in terms of writing, very simplified gameplay wise too.
But it still was crafted well and appealed to mass audience just right. Those were the years of people cultivated by Nu Metal and Lord of the Rings, and Marilyn Manson singing during the trailer was signature of what DA was supposed to be.
All sequels tried to do the same - get into mainstream while reflecting current political and sociocultural environment.
But DA2 was them getting too greedy and rushing things, and it didn't make it into mainstream as good.
DAI was the one reflecting MMORPG popularity of the games back then.
Veiguard has tried to be woke but they overestimated an actual popularity of woke, and quality was not there too.
Don't worry - this franchise doesnt depend much on the setting but on mainstream appeal.
They will absolutely make another one in 5 years, probably trying to larp as kewl non-woke game for men, but with AI written story, $100 price tag and microtranzactions.

>>725009107
youre a fucking retard

>>724960041
Kinda this.
They made one 8/10 game (maybe a 9 in it's best moments) and then a string of 3s and 4s out of 10 after that. I'm genuinely shocked they put this much faith in a series that had 1 good game they refused to build on.

Like say what you want about Bioslop but they must make one hell of a pitch to get this much trash greenlit.

>>725011821
It's meant to be a more streamlined version of Baldur's Gate/Neverwinter Nights because Bioware couldn't get the license to make another one anymore as those games are what put Bioware on the map for RPG enthusiasts.

What makes Dragon Age such a unique situation is that it wad so low-hanging fruit. All they had to do was to take everything from DAO, add a few new talent trees, a few new classes, a few new races and glue on a new plot.
There, guaranteed nerd-cash forever. I have no idea why it tried to be modern Final Fantasy instead and throw everything everyone liked out.

>>725013312
I do wonder if thats enough any more. Back then we were experience a drought in games like DAO but these days both owlcat and larian have set their own examples of what a modern RPG can be like and you have more budget titles like JA3 as well. I find it funny that in the face of competition they just decided to swerve into a whole other genre instead

>>724961454
>>724964014
There are people who did pay money for this... Every once in a while i think myself absolute retard and degen. But then i notice what other people consume and say and i feel a tiny bit better. I may be retarded, but there are people who are much worse.

You now remember that inquisition somehow won game of the year. I think that single game doing well because the year was so dry for RPGs is what saved them up until now, EA truly believed it wasn’t luck.

>>725009308
How the hell could they be behind Loghain fleeing Ostagar and why? And they just left a red lyrium idol so that dwarf would get it too, presumably so Meridith would go crazy and push Kirkwall over the edge? This is just childish.

>>724958936 (OP)
>Was the new game really THAT bad?
Yes
>Did it at least serve as a decent conclusion to the series?
No
>Also did the Warden finally show up?
Hahahaha no

>>725016383
Mostly feel sorry for Loghain, went from a complex character with motives to "tee hee I got manipulated :)"

>>724958936 (OP)
>>724960041
>/thread
Yeah, the skinwalking of the IP started immediately after the release of its first title. I didn't expect them to quintessentially eraese it with Veilguard -- its writers were so goddamn awful, they needed a completely clean slate and replaced it with the fakest, gayest and most retarded fanfiction you could possibly imagine.
They basically qualify as corporate assassins who perpetually fail upwards, with the sole mission and purpose to devalue companies. In a world that ran on merit, these faggots would starve.

>>724961454
Did you know that troonship (and other sexual degeneracy) can also be observed in nature, namely in cases of severe parasitosis (e.g.: Sacculina Carcini)?
>https://youtube.com/watch?v=rQdfBfqHnLs

>>724974008
>she
lol
lmao

>>724958936 (OP)
>Was the new game really THAT bad?
wish I had their character creator vid saved where they showcase the pronouns and several different variations of "top surgery" scars.

Veilguard is tumblr core.
Made by "fans" who only cared about the social/relationship aspect of the saga.
Made by woke writers who fell for the "progressive" notion that you shouldnt write anything outside your personal experience as that would be appropriation.

This is why the characters are all so boring/safe/gay, alot of modern writers are like that.
Is not "fiction" anymore.

>>724963160
>Morrigan is now a turbo slut ("more lovers than trees in a forest").
Morrigan was already a slut in DAO

>>724963476
They did.
>>724964014
I mantain >>725023743
It feels like an awful read on her character

>>724968374
Chaos corruption will do this to a motherfucker

They ran out of characters stuff to ruin so they went after characters nobody even liked like Isabela
Quite incredible

>>724986976
Kill yourself farquaad.