Thread 724987965

Can Maplestory Classic actually save the game? Is there any hope?

i want her to step on me like that

>>724987965 (OP)
Oh I forgot that was a thing, is it out yet?

>>724989505
No

It'll just be FOTM nostalgia tourist bait before everyone quits.

>>724987965 (OP)
Probably not. There are actually tons of comfy grinding games you can play now (I'm playing Perpetuum with the /vm/ mmo guys) and people don't play them. It's fun but the gaming landscape has gotten too much attention from psychologists, so games can't be fun anymore. They have to be addicting. And there are thousands of addicting games that are way easier for your brain to tell itself to play than Maplestory.

If the community is there, and people are talking, and the marketing is on point, and the counter-marketing sucks (doesn't seem likely, gacha has infinite marketing money), and the game is actually decent, and the developers are really in it for the long haul and can weather the storm, then it'll be reasonably successful for a few years. Otherwise, it'll die in eight months like everything else does (but it'll be fun for eight months, and that's what really counts, since the competition isn't even fun for eight days).

>>724987965 (OP)
Maplestory doesn't need saving. It's literally at the most popular it's ever been for KMS and GMS.

>>724990367
Maplestory still has the distinction of being a sidescroller.
Nobody else has tried to make a sidescroller MMO that can challenge Maplestory's throne. Games like LaTale and Wonderking were never serious challengers.

>>724990443
>It's literally at the most popular it's ever been for KMS and GMS.
>and GMS
This is simply not true.

>>724987965 (OP)
>Remove HP washing
>Remove the game becoming if/when 4th jobs are added Bishopstory
>Remove endgame being leeching off of Mage ults
>Do NOT add the Potential system
>Do NOT add NLC
>Enforce secondary stats to avoid the Dexless/Lukless and everyone in bathrobe, bamboo hats and maple weapons
>Add Pirates

Am I forgetting something?

>>724987965 (OP)
I am excite. But since there's no release date I'm currently trying to forget it exists.

>>724990725
Disable trading
Raise level cap to 300

>>724990687
I was gonna say you were wrong but it was actually a year or three ago that that Destiny update broke records

1. xXDexl3ssS4suk3Xx
2. B>FAME
3. are you israeli?
4. Got track?
5. cc plz
6. B>SCROLLS@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@2
7. Pan Lids and Kumbi were FKING expensive
8. Tiger and Suuushi
9. Falling into that golem pit when going from Henesys to Sleepy woods
10. That damn iron hog at pig beach
11. When everyone wanted a thief in the party for Haste
12. Accidentally taking the black cab to Sleepy Woods as a noob, and have no messosfor the ride back
13. Hidden-street
14. Going to Orbis and El nath, not having money for the ride home
15. Waiting for mushmom
16. Get freaked out when the C. Balrogs arrived
17. Party members going apeshit when their leader didn't get them into the PQ
18. Autoclick hack
19. Only Scania, Bera, Broa, Windia
20. Screwing up your hair with Amoria hair coupon
21. Hype when Ludi came out
22. People losing their shit when they got defamed
23. Henesys hunting ground
24. F3
25. Do quest for 60% ATT gloves scrolls, then sells it for like 1.5 - 2 mil
26. +15 speed with Red Whip
27. Playing cards or that omok game with strangers
28. That noob with the buzz cut, white tanktop, blue shorts, red boots asking for mesos
29. Those ATT work gloves that were freaking expensive
30. Fangblade first to reach lvl 200

>>724991180
Track hasn't existed in Maplestory for years.
They removed it for player security and added hidden log-in options too.
Considering how people are speculating that party quests are now instanced, there's no need for track anymore either.

>>724987965 (OP)
i doubt if people have the time to even play and properly progress in the game

>>724991334
If people have the time to post on 4chan, they have the time to play Maplestory.

>>724987965 (OP)
17 years later, why is she still angry?

Bring back theme dungeons, it's such a cool concept

>>724987965 (OP)
>KR grindshit
It was never good.

>724989681
>tourist
>tourist
>tourist
How long are you going to keep posting this shit?

>>724990903
>Disable trading
Why?

>>724987965 (OP)
Why would anyone want to play Maplestory?

>>724993003
You don't have to worry about it, just keep wasting your life away right here on 4chan.

>>724992764
bots

>>724989681
you're still not tired after being repeatedly exposed as a lonely loser, madwolf?

>auction house
maplestory is saved

>>724991334
You’re acting like there aren’t multiple private servers and MS Worlds servers full of people craving OSMS. It being an official game from Nexon with balance changes and new content, built in a proper engine is going to be even more of a draw for people. People want the game and they want the old school gameplay.

i haven't seen a single person point out the ACTUAL biggest problems classic will have
stay retarded as usual, /v/

kys frogposter

>>724987965 (OP)
It's not a true classic, they rebalanced the jobs and added some completely new maps.

>>724994032
>It's not a true classic
Good. I'm glad they're not explicitly pandering to autistic freaks like you.
Stick to your shitty private server.

>>724994086
>autistic freaks like you
??? touch grass lol

>>724993348
We don't know anything about Classic so any problems are imagined

>>724987965 (OP)
What do you mean save the game? It's an entirely different game from current Maple that's going to run concurrently.

>>724994420
it's the same guy that has a strange public meltdown in every one of these threads. don't pay him mind.

Thoughts on KPQ in Classic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lg4GaB3Lig

Odds are probably not. most people nowadays who would likely be the target of this want to rush to the "important content" of an MMO which usually tends to be the endgame with as little tedium as possible which likely means solo speedrun leveling which doesn't work well in an MMO setting. I see the only real solution is just giving the source code out and letting people who want to play it do it in their own small groups or something.

>>724996008
Explain Oldschool Runescape then.

>>724991180
>3. are you israeli?
I don't understand why there was so much of this. Did Israel just get access to the internet at the time?

>>724995754
what do party quests even give you? do they drop better loot? is it just free for all who loots it? I know there's like some quest rewards... but do you keep running them over and over or just a few times for quests?

I never did them as a kiddo..

When will Angelic Buster be available as a class?

i don't feel like waiting

Reminder to listen to the Ellinia BGM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYtHWyrVm30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfgBDs8z6WE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NoF8PHQJqQ

>>724987965 (OP)
Bro we don't even know when the closed beta is starting, we probably don't need daily threads. You're practically inviting that one dude from /vg/ to come here and sperg out for another 3 hours.

>>724996765
They were the best EXP and were alternatives to grinding.
Rewards weren't dropped but instead given as a random reward from the NPC. Some were amazing some were not.

>>724996765
Back in the day, PQing was so popular because it was just a more fun alternative to mindless grinding alone. There was a big social aspect to it that made it more enjoyable. The rewards were never that good. And the only time it gave good exp was Carnival PQ or doing Glitched Orbis PQ.

What's the difference between MapleStory right now, vs this classic thing?

Does the nostalgic crowd want Ludibrium to be in Classic? Or is that too new?

>>724989681
Just like WoW Classic ri-
Oh...

>>724998098
classic is classic (classic+)
current maple is a totally different game, ignore any retards trying to compare the two
it's like comparing osrs to something like poe or warframe

>>724998098
Maplestory right now has about 50 classes that all feel samey. Game is also heavily concentrated to level 250+.
Old Maplestory was simpler. 4 classes that all felt different and the game doesn't rush you to endgame.

>>724998098
This classic world release is essentially aiming to revert the game to the state it was in like 15 years ago, and rebalance it + add new content in the spirit of the design philosophy closer to its original release. The current game at this point is basically unrecognizable outside of the artstyle.

>>724998389
Erm actually old MapleStory had 10 classes

thoughts on the temple of time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3loq0xBsi7o

>>724998157
I question the sanity of anyone who would want Classic World to just be Victoria Island and Orbis for eternity. Ludi wasn't even that far off after GMS' launch anyway, there's no way anyone would call it too new.

>>724987965 (OP)
I'm going to make training videos like it's 2006

>>724998098
Modern Maplestory is about BIG things. Big numbers, big visual effects, etc. It focuses heavily on convenience, explosive growth, and homogenization between classes.
Old Maplestory is... different. Progress is slow, traveling is time consuming and at times tedious, and some quests are convoluted. Classes were very unique from each other, and were heavily reliant on others to make up for their own shortcomings, which really came to light in party quests and sometimes bosses.

anyone played this?

is magic guard confirmed for getting nerfed?
it was always bullshit how mages got to be one of the tanky classes when they should be made of glass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49AZqVhXVeU

>check comments
>it's mostly shitstain zoomers saying how much they miss monster carnival

>>724998098
everything

Cygnus Knights should be in classic.

>>724998965
No it's actually slightly buffed because it's now a toggle so you can't ever die by not paying attention and failing to reapply it. Although it did get a technical nerf in parties from Hyper Body no longer increasing MP.

>>724987965 (OP)
no
next question

>>725000760
You are an idiot though.

>>724987965 (OP)
I want classic to just be the new maplestory with frequent updates
fuck all the long time fans they dont matter and are deranged people anyways just check /vg/ literally all of them are passive aggressive never replying to each other fucking psychos.
just reboot the franchise

NotAgain reporting in.

>>725001041
whats reboot

MapleStory Classic is gonna be so kino

>>724987965 (OP)
No

>>725001147
for me, it's 2Spooky

for me, it's CWKPQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfq61ugRGBo

>>724987965 (OP)
Soul (because 2003) vs soulless (because 2020 comes after 2003)

>>725000712
They should make it so Magic Guard only guards against Magic Attacks.
It should not protect against touch damage.

>>724998098
As someone who has played since beta, has played private servers, "sanctioned" private servers in Maplestory World, and has every class in the game at least level 210 in Modern Maplestory (with my main being level 286) I see it as:
Classic
>Starting level 10 (or 8)
>Community aspect of the game occurs as early as Victoria Island, but more commonly by KPQ at level 21
>Game "begins" with 2nd job (level 30) since you start specializing
>Skills and damage numbers are relatively tame, rarely surpassing 4 digits until you're late-game
>Leveling is slow and meaningful, with a focus on killing mobs with intent
>Movement options are limited to a few jobs
>Quests are overall mundane and flesh out the world around you
>Game is about the journey and about a normal adventurer braving the lands
>Events are precious and rare and are often based on personal skill a la JQs
Modern Maplestory
>Starting level is 30 (you will go through a story quest that will inevitably end you at this level)
>Community aspect of the game occurs at level 265 through Monster Park Extreme (earlier if you're funded)
>Game "begins" at level 265 since you unlock access to all of your skills (6th job) and can begin bossing without severe penalties for all your necessary equips
>Skills are flashy and cover a quarter of your screen minimum, with other common skills covering half; all skills do multiple lines of damage
>Damage numbers go into the billions, to the point where Nexon began releasing "unit" skins (1000 = 1k, 1000000 = 1M, etc.)
>Everybody has max speed, max jump, and some form of teleport or flash jump
>Quests are pointless at lower levels and higher levels are all about THE CHOSEN ONE (You [please kill 3000 mobs])
>Game is about leveling up every job in the game because your main will be stuck in Pitched Boss Set Drop waiting room hell due to weekly limits on bossing so there's nothing else to do
>Two major and two minor events every year, with multiple extras to make players play

>>725003072
That sounds like a terrible idea since early Maplestory basically had no way to avoid damage.
If there is one thing Modern Maplestory did right, it's that bossing is actually more of a skill-based endeavor instead of luck and stats due to designing modern bosses with raid boss mechanics and touhou projectiles instead of just invisible autoattacks
https://youtu.be/7FdWN0Q83WM

>>724991180
>3. are you israeli?
why did jews loved this game. I remember being a kid and being asked if I was israeli constantly.

>>725003810
notice how there's nothing fundamentally different
Classic
>game is a grind
Modern
>game is a grind

classic tourists will play their game, hate the fact maplestory is a grinding game, and prompty quit soon after
just because it has less mobility, slower travel, less damage, more meaningful leveling (in that experience is more evenly distributed across levels), does not change that Maplestory is a GRINDING GAME.

>>725003991
>That sounds like a terrible idea since early Maplestory basically had no way to avoid damage.
the hell are you rambling about? mages can teleport.
>b-b-but how will i train at muh high spawn hotspots
here's an idea: just don't train there.
each class should train at areas suited to their usecase and skillset.
warriors are the class who are adept at taking on large mobs.

allowing mages to be tanks is fuckin dumb

>>725004132
madwolf, why do you pretend to be a girl? you're just a lonely old man with autism.

I NEED IT NOOOWWW
NOW NOW NOW NOW

Erm, I ain't no mad wolf. I'm a rusty spider, chud.

>>725004156
>mages can teleport
Mages can't out-teleport an attack that's already active. It's like trying to dodge hitscan weapons after seeing the flash. That's the problem. You can only flash out of AoE attacks that aren't targeting you.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the autist who keeps using the word "tourists".

>>724990725
>Add more social and low level content
>Don't stray too far from the wizet aesthetic
>Give players a reason to hang around towns

>>724996740
>724840065

>>725004365
>Mages can't out-teleport an attack that's already active
Did you fail to understand my original post squirt? I said Magic Guard should not protect against touch damage, aka PHYSICAL DAMAGE, not ranged magic attacks.
This gives Magic Guard a mage specific quality instead of just making them catch-all tanks.

>>725004417
>>724996740
>>724840065
Sorry am rarted

For me it's the jumping party quests

>>725004446
>aka PHYSICAL DAMAGE
That's what I'm talking about retard. Physical damage isn't just touch damage.
Hell, Maplestory right now doesn't even treat physical damage identically to touch damage.

>>724998098
I don't know dude maybe just use your eyes? How are people actually this retarded?

>>724987965 (OP)
No. What made maplestory enjoyable to play were the times and the people of the times, not the game itself. Gameplay wise it was horrible, the grind was atrocious. The cute chibi characters, allowed for soulful interactions and good locales along with the music carried it hard. Some classes were literally better for endgame because they could heal without spending money for potions.

I will not be touching this soulless cashgrab no matter how hard it will be shilled here.

>>725004519
You are such an idiot it's funny.

>>725004564
He is right

>>725004564
You don't even know the mechanics of the game you're whining about

>>725004596
Wrong, idiot.

>>725004597
You are the one missing the point badly you laughable fucking moron LMAO
I'm saying Magic Guard should not block touch damage and your argument is "b-but they will still get hit by active attacks!~ not fair!"

Total shitbrained dumbfuck LOL

>>725004564
This nigga thinks lupin banana attacks are magic attacks lmaooooooooo

>>725004564
Fucking retard

>>725004687
>still missing the point
Still a complete idiot

>autist can't grasp a simple point about magic guard and why it shouldn't apply to touch damage
>resorts to samefagging like the loser he is

Why was this nigga always on top of the leaderboard?

>>725004732
I'm NTA but willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume when you said physical damage you actually meant just touch damage as in the mob is physically making contact with you, not physical damage as in actual ranged hitscan or projectiles attacks that do "physical damage" as in the stat. Am I getting this right?

>>725004840
He wasn't always on top, zoomer.

>>725004825
Is this the famous Maplestory schizo?

>>725004840
For me it's pic rel.

>>725004382
blackedgoku
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197998081602

>>725004851
It doesn't matter much either way, the actual point is that Mages shouldn't be tanks.
Whether it's scrapping protection against touch damage or physical damage, something should obviously changed.

>b-but physical attacks will le kill me
Then train somewhere else, like monsters that rely on magic attacks.

>>725004840
whyd he wear the helmet

133 221 333 111 123

>>724987965 (OP)
I really really really really really need this game right now. I just want to grind 10 hours a day

>>724998262
Yes, exactly like WoW Classic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzQfFbBWoYU Probably the most soul I have ever seen in any MMO. I think thats why people don't like retail maplestory. Oldschool was dangerous. It wasn't easy to survive in that game. And dying was pretty punishing.

Is being rewarded with items that literally delete hours of other players' lives bad or based game design?

>>725005558
Why don't you play Reboot?

>>725005165
lol i remember when they gave players a ticket which gave random haircuts and people prayed to get the cool hairs

>>725005558
you can do that right now in maplestory
>>725005763
grief items are kino

Why didn't anybody make a single player game with Maple Story's systems?
Feels like it's easy enough to make a Risk of Rain clone, or make a metroidvania game with it.

>>725005865
Kek I remember when people would remake their new alt characters to reroll for antagonist since it was the only good hair style from the quest lmao

>>724993348
The game doesn't come with mandatory gfs

>>725005915
i don't like the way modern maple looks and plays, it is not visually appealing to my eyes

>>725006084
Fuck your eyes nigger

>>725006179
?

>>725005832
>>725005915
I don't want to soil my memories. I remember comments like these from the wow fanbase in 2015. They couldn't understand why people wanted Classic vanilla wow. Games in the 2000s had grind, they had a journey. They had a threatening world, you could die, you couldn't just fast travel everywhere instantly. You had teleports and scrolls sure but you couldn't just get anywhere you wanted instantly. Mobs weren't just damage sponges. You could easily die and money was hard to come by. Games back then felt more like a world. Modern Maplestory is nothing like the original. Mobs aren't threatening, traveling is too easy. Mounts are given away for nothing whereas you gotta hoof it in the original well into 3rd job range. It's a different game, and Maplestory Retail isn't for us oldheads. I play old MMOs alot. I guess only those who play older games understand, but there are many of us actually. Thats why Turtle WoW is so popular. People desire that old design with a new flare.

>>725006291
You are responding to bait posts, they are going to froth at the mouth the moment you say you don't want to play new maplestory. For some reason when nu-maple players see people say they don't want to play they get angry, I don't get it.

>>725006264
I'm sorry that was mean. Kisses

I find it crazy that I can still look up characters I made over 20 years ago.

>>725006362
Same reason WoW Retail players hated classic so much. It's basically admitting they have bad taste when the classic version vastly outshines the original. Runescape 3 players used to seethe on this board in 2013. I remember it. It's basically being told "you are whats wrong with gaming and why this game is not as successful". OSRS was a big fuck you to retail Runescape 3 lovers. Their resentment is understandable, but those same types of people killed the MMO industry so fuck them. I'm glad OSRS succeeded as much as it has, just reminds me that old > new in the MMO world.

Pig Beach.....Home
https://youtu.be/sR6jz2TlLUM?si=z8lfJeRHsaYxwN-y

>>725006509
Not anymore you won't since there's a purge happening next week.

>>725006515
I think nu-maplers kind of do have some merit to their anger though. I'm not too familiar with it but when reboot came out Nexon pretty much played favorites with it and neglected regular servers for years or something so I can see why they'd be even more pissed at the very likely prospect of them almost outright abandoning the main game if classic is even remotely successful.

>>724990725
>Enforce secondary stats to avoid the Dexless/Lukless and everyone in bathrobe, bamboo hats and maple weapons
Kys

>>725005997
It sort-of works for single player RPGs but it's still pretty blatantly an MMO rejiggered into said single player RPG

There's a DS game and a 3DS game with fan translations for both, the DS game stars the promo-art Warrior/Magician/Thief/Bowman and gives all of them a mixed spread of abilities from their job branches (notably Thief is given two daggers and predates Dual Blades in this regard) with the final gear tier being the 5th Set (ie Blue Dragon for Warriors or Gold Dragon/Blue Czar for Magicians)

The 3DS game is an original the character and is basically one of those character-as-a-class classes that modern Maple is really fond of

>>724990872
Wait. Is Maplestory STILL in beta or something? I remember playing it for a weeks almost 2 decades ago.

>>725006587
Numaplers are the reason numaple went to shit in the first place. All the whales have autism, and when Nexon started surveying them about how the game should be changed, they wanted bigger numbers, more optimized training maps, less travel, less PQs. Nexon delivered the big bang along with all kinds of other updates. Fast forward to today and demand has grown to go back to the good old days.

>>725005997
There was some maple private server called sjokkat where you climb maps designed sorta like henesys hunting ground, it was pretty novel but I didn't play for long. Apparently people loved it, something like that but singleplayer might be pretty fun.
https://streamable.com/waswt7
>>725006752
Meh personally I don't think the big bang update itself was a bad patch outside of the changes to victoria island's layout, I liked the explorer skill changes because it made the underdog classes better and more fun without going too far with powercreep. The exp curve change was nice too before LHC existed and people could suddenly just blast through the 120s while basically afk. The game already had dual bladers and potential and super flat efficient grind maps before the big bang patch so imo the worst aspects started before the big bang.

>>725007020
The problem wasn't the big bang update, it was the change in design philosophy. If you listen to korean whales, you make the game worse, it's as simple as that. The big bang was just one of many small steps towards the mess the game is now.

>>724996740
My little jew buddy in Chaos was a God. I wasn't aware of the israeli mafia that was running mushroom game at the time, but it was a big deal.

>>725007153
Big bang was just one change, that happened years ago.
Modern maple is objectively the best it's ever been.

>>725006752
Numaplers did so much damage to Maplestory and gaming the companies realized that OSRS was onto something and listening to the types of people that enjoy retail versions of MMOs are braindead and not worth listening to.

>>725007212
These people who played when they were younger just aren't willing to put in the effort. They would never minclear ctene solo lol.

>>725007153
Yeah true but I guess my point is that there were so many other steps on the way there that I like the bb patch simply for what it did for bad classes. Ground slash for example was still pretty faithful to the original concept and it was a very welcome addition to a page who had a completely miserable 2nd job experience. Ground slash made it a little better. Steal hitting 3 mobs helped bandits out a lot who again, had a completely miserable 2nd job experience, I don't think any archer complained about the bow whack getting removed. Some good and honest changes did happen between those small steps towards what maple would eventually become.

>>725007256
Maplestory isn't like Runescape
Runescape 3 and OSRS are entirely different games.
Maplestory modern and 'classic' are not.

>>725007317
actually true cause i have no interest in playing a game that looks like this and i'm not sorry. that's not the pwn you think it is btw

>>725007409
Seems even the devs disagree with you. Explain how you know more about this statement then Nemi herself? She seems to be looking very very close at this debate and why so many people are enjoying those classic private servers and they noticed stuff like Artale. I think the truth of the matter is, they are different and you are just being disingenuous.

>>725007475
I really get it, as a true mapler I enjoy most patches of maplestory. It's a lot of work. But man, working my way through hwill up to ctene was really fun. I'm confident in my control in a way I didn't think necessary for mushroom game. It's a lot of fun and I wish more of you classic fags would give CW a shot to enjoy it.

>>724991180
>Dark Sight survival horror adventure to Cursed Sanctuary at ridiculously low levels
>Jumping the sewer grates at Kerning
>Hiding shit in portal graphic to trade between your own accounts/characters
>Getting into PQs on Channel 1 and feeling like a 400 IQ genius
>Basilmarket trades and faming for good manners
>Getting 0.1% exp (it was a very productive day)
>Starting an unfunded STRdit because knives "looked cooler" and being absolutely fucking destitute while your 4-years-younger little sister is literally a millionaire at level 35 because Clerics are mafia lords (okay, this was just me)
>133-221-333-123-111

>>725007701
i never said new maple isn't objectively better in its systems and bossing and progression and i agree that it is but i simply don't like the visuals or the gameplay and how many classes they are. looks like maplestory 3 to me, just not a fan of it. i stopped liking the game when i logged back in some time around 2013 or whatever and saw a kaiser doing all that crazy shit and luminous zapping multiple platforms with ease. it's just not for me, and that's okay.

>>725007550
you're just being dumb
if "classic maple" or the "philosophy" that drove it was so good, then why was it so unprofitable to the point they needed to change the entire game's course?

>>725008082
Were is the proof it wasn't profitable? Are you a high level shareholder with insider information?

>>725008082
>was so good
The question wasn't whether it was good or not, the question was whether it is different. Why are you so dishonest, why do you play dumb and pretend to not understand what the person you're talking to is saying? Genuinely curious, what made you like this?

>>725008106
because profitable games entirely change their game design right?

Revive 2 please

>>724990725

whats the problem with nlc? i havent been there in years

>>725008015
I completely get it. Old versions just have charm, I took a month off work for an older version pserver release so that my group could be at the top. At some point those zak/pb/ht guild runs are going to be a bit stale and something a bit more challenging will be welcomed.

>>725007212
You are a moron though. This is why you're illiterate.

>yfw you heard this shit for the first time after surviving 99 floors of Ludi earrape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxQt8EVhBOs

>>725008106
>>725008140
Stop replying to Madwolf. See >>725004382

>>725004382
"girl" Assuming this is some kind of asian tranny

>>725008371
I see, noted.

I remember trying to get back into maple a few years back and saw that they gave my character written dialogue that was just as poorly translated as the rest of the game and fucked right off. Will probably check out Classic tho.

>>725008332
It is the same thing lol. There's no difference between me holding down my foot pedal to cast bite on my NW to wipe the map and holding down my foot pedal so my cleric spams heals while I work.

I hope they make party quests good again

>>724987965 (OP)
The thicker lines are more appealing

>>725008475
>it look exactly da saem

>>725004401
there needs to be more higher lvl content too
after 4th job (when it gets added) you're doomed to grind skeles or rotate bosses.

>>724992535
the old mush kingdom took forever to complete
>collect 1000000 helms plox
i hope theme dungeons get reworked to be more like the modern versions

>>725008978
>the old mush kingdom took forever to complete
Leveling is going to take forever, be glad you have a reason to kill so many mobs and be rewarded with xp after.

>>725008251
>>725008827
They will definitely have to do new content, and that's fine, as long as it's in vein of the original vision of the game. It's totally doable, idk why people are so caught up on classic maple but never changing at all, ever, as if old maple was perfect. They just have to make changes that don't turn it into post-bb maplestory's woodchipper gameplay, it's not that hard to do. Lke they just have to not make a class like mechanic or demon slayer or mercedes then revamp explorers to be more like them. Basically just don't infinitely powercreep the classes and the gear at incomprehensible levels and it's fine.

>>725003405
i miss old basilmarket

>>725009087
I met my wife on this section

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbY2KUn3dmM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uCaEDM-Kf8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sf4tEqd7co
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBUfQcIhim0

How can classic Maplestory compete?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enW1yt1aN_g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNgM_kp5GjM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlXrpq-6jHc

>>725009087
>>725009243
yo I used to browse the screenshot section I especially liked the level up thread

Force 800x600 in GPQ, TY!

>>725009424
sometimes i wonder how some of the chat island regulars are doing now

>>725008189
If they weren't retarded then 2 could've lasted longer. Shame cause it was fun

reminder that hidden street is still up

>725008926
(You)

>>725010056
Both global hidden street and before big bang are still up

IT'S OUT
GOTY BROS WE WONNED

how does old maplestory compare to old runescape?

i do not want to waste weeks grinding and being dripfed progress when there are 20+ years worth of games who offer a better experience of that

>>725010323
you dont even know what the game will be like or how fast the leveling curve will be, moron

>>725010323
>the game is going to be the exact same

NO BRO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE IT ENGAGING AND FUN

Thoughts on Aran? Should it be in Classic World at some point?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDfIfL_Fxec

>>725010385
Ow my fingers

>>725010385
skill based classes should exist, also female aran is canon

>>724987965 (OP)
You people are trying to artificially recreate the social high you had as a kid, misattributing the source of that to be the current gamestate of a fucking F2P hypergrind MMO you played as a kid. You do not have the free time of a child anymore.

>>725010794
You post on 4chan you fat smelly loser.

>>725010262
Liar, though I am looking forward to it.

Wonder if raids will need 12 people like in the old days or will it be like numaple where you can solo everything

>>725010843
I would just play numaple if it was solostory, who the fuck wants to solo PB in period appropriate gear?

>>725010843
why do ppl with autism keep thinking way too far ahead? there isn't even going to be 3rd job at launch

>>725010903
To be fair, what else is there to talk about when the same dude keeps making this thread when there's no release date.

>>725010819
I wonder if I should play that osms maple worlds server in the meantime

>>725010903
>there isn't even going to be 3rd job at launch
People who are excited for this game are expecting to play it for a long time. If I'm playing at launch I'm worried about 4th job, I don't give a shit if 3rd isn't out. Could you imagine KNOWING bishopstory is coming and not making a bishop? That's some real retard shit.

>>725011060
it must've been rough growing up with autism

>>725011098
It was all directed at Maplestory so it was even worse than you could imagine for everything else.

Think holy symbol will get nerfed? Ahahaha

>>725011237
I don't think anything is safe with what they did to assassin crit damage, but people typically enjoy more exp while haing when some bathrobe wearing faggot outdamages them.

>>725010809
>/v/tard
>playing games
Are you trying to prove me right or something?

Which Maplestory NPC would you have sex with?

>>725011329
i'm saying you're a fucking idiot for trying to tell people they're wasting their time while you're posting on 4chan, one of the most worthless ways to invest one's time.
Naturally you are too stupid to have even a modicum of self-awareness. You are a complete and utter idiot of the highest order, utterly devoid of intelligence.

>>725011313
They could've changed the entire formula for all we know
Fuck this new captcha btw

>>725011060
Honestly I do the same when it comes to some of the things I'm wondering about. Playing early on with only 2nd job and basic stuff is nice and all, but I am very much interested in the later additions.
I've also thought about how some people will realise once they've grinded to like level 103 and then 4th jobs drops and they are bottom of the barrel and realise you'll continue playing since you have fun or bite the pillow and accept your position or make another class. Personally I don't care even if that happens as I'm only playing the game for fun and I enjoy grinding hours and hours on end no matter what. It also raises some of my concerns with the later skills being changed so half of the playerbase play one or two classes since it does everything you'd like and game starts to revolve around the balance of that.
>>725011237
Ideally holy symbol would get removed entirely since it is by far the best skill/buff in the game and forever will be unless you are doing full level 200 boss runs where experience doesn't matter. Untill that point having extra experience to counter the core idea behind extremely slow leveling it is just mandatory and broken. You can play without it, but there is zero reason not to accept it in your party which goes back to the unbalanced state of some classes controlling the entire party system. I do believe it will get nerfed to some extent, but it will still be good since even 50% experience if it makes you level faster even with the priest/bishop in your party it's still faster leveling.

>>725011443
>for all we know
These fucking gooks only gave me enough information to speculate, I hate it. I need patch notes and numbers infront of me now, with a roadmap for 4th release and planned changed.

>>725011446
If HS gets removed then I guess that's the end of leech? Prolly no point in bishop besides genesis spam

>>725011606
>expecting nexon to do that
Lol lmao

>>725011634
I really do not think HS will be removed and the game will be faster be either slightly higher exp rate or base experience from monsters adjusted. I do not think majority of players would stick around if they can't get the feeling of noticeable progression with the brutally slow leveling.
I think leeching might continue to exist even though it's another aspect of the game that I'd like to be removed, but that is just my biased opinion as I also think you need to play the game to progress. Not sit in a corner for hours as you pay mesos that you obtained through selling NX or gachapon or whatever they will keep in the cash shop and game. Mage ultimate spam is also terrible in my opinion and they could raise mages single target damage to be atleast okayish while allowing them to be good mobbers so they can atleast enjoy all the content the game offers instead of being useless at bosses outside of Bishop and have the top 500 rankings be 90% mages. They already changed MP eater to have 5 second cooldown which is a good sign as it's rather odd Bishop for example can just train for free? Which just added another aspect of why Bishop was in such high demand and popular since you could sell leech, train for free, have tons of maps with undead that offer good exp/h and good meso/h.
My thoughts are just biased due to having the time to actually grind and play the game and I think people should expect that if they don't invest time into the game they shouldn't be high level super fast with good gear etc. However this will not happen as I'm part of the extreme minority and games can not balance with people like me in mind.

>>725010385
I'd rather not have any classes with a canon character attached to it.

>>725005763
incredibly based

>>725011634
leech was never a problem that needed to be fixed

>>725007409
WoW isn't like runescape either.
Yet classic was a massive success

>>725011423
Rotting on 4chan is not playing (thus "saving") Maplestory, dumbass. Also, stop larping with that word salad as if it were a response to any point being made.

>>725012443
>Rotting on 4chan is not playing
Yeah, it's even worse you laughable little moron.

>>725012619
>nexon removes her pantyshot

>>724995754
Theyre all lv30 in the video and when they are fighting King slime the timer goes from 25 minutes to 18 minutes and then back to 24 minutes when king slime dies, so they failed once and somehow reset the dungeon without doing the PQ again? King slime shouldnt take more than 30 seconds anyway at that level

>>724998157
if theyre adding custom areas anyway they for sure are adding Ludibrium, KFT, Ellin, Aqua

>>724998571
amazing, a bit repetitive but leading to PB its cool as fuck and has the best ost. this one is still my alarm clock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uCaEDM-Kf8

At what point in Maplestory's history did the lore significantly change? I remember the black mage was a thing in pre-BB but I feel like there was a point where they really started adding detail to the story.

Remember going on a trip down the Orbis Tower?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNCwJu5Buz0

>>724998157
In the interview he already said they have Ludibrium ready. "We already prepared El Nath and Ludibrium. It’s in our depository. We are ready to release, but we are not doing that." It is likely that it is coming later on and due to having it ready for release it makes a "big" patch such as bringing Ludi back a very easy process.
>>725014243
It is very likely the later added areas are coming as patches. Depending how they are going to do the "listen to players", which well it is Nexon so that is doubtful for starters. Not sure if they would do a poll or what sort of a system to check players feedback and what sort of content they'd like in future updates.
>>725014672
It was a fun one and also using the town scroll close enough to El Nath to skip a little bit of the walk at the end.

so there will only be GMS version of this? I hope the ping from eu isnt as bad as it used to be

>>725010323
I didn't even get above lvl 60 back then, and I had so much fun & memories with Maple story.
It's not about being max level, or killing the strongest monsters.
It's about making friends.
If the social aspect of classic is not the same as previous, then it's dead to me.

>>725014752
this is a nexon america project, the main nexon development team is probably just letting them do their thing.

>>725015159
It would be nice to avoid the p2w stuff as much as possible. I do believe there will be p2w to some extent such as the test client already showed pet slot with HP/MP equipment aswell. Interview also had Inkwell go around the topic of p2w saying they obviously want to avoid it as much as possible. Premium cosmetic boxes was a thing he did bring up when asking if that is what the interviewer would consider p2w. So that's an example of something that could be coming and it wouldn't be suprising as cosmetics always sells in mmos.

Another quote from it would be: "“There will be monetization,” said Inkwell, explaining that it will be similar to how things were in the Pre-Big Bang era. “A lot of people misunderstand this because our purpose is for players to enjoy the game, to have fun. Not to spend money. That’s my perspective.”" Which also makes me think something like gachapon isn't exactly out of the talk either.

For me classic is looking like a modded private server, but official. I think it has potential and could be really fun, but have to wait for more information from the closed testing etc. So far I'm definitely going to be playing on release.

I hope exploration will be cool

Do nuMaple autists really not understand the issue with modern maple world design?
The developers decided every town now needs one linear set of maps where mob power scales up linearly. Ellinia is especially bad because they decided the standard mob should be the evil eyes. Evil eyes are bright yellow creatures that were originally designed for a deep part of the dungeon that was a nest for them. They clash with the lush green forest environment of ellinia badly. Then after evil eyes it's curse eyes (which were at least originally in ellinia) followed by cold eyes, which are the pale white version and intended specifically for the really deep part of the dungeon. Modern maplestory has zero regard for placing monsters in the environment they were originally designed for.

>>725016382
No one cares about the mobs before level 200 bro

>>725016526
that is indeed one of the problems, dear autist.

its literally over 20 years old
what is there to "save"?

>>725016652
it's seen better days

>>725016730
if maplestory was a dog it would be dead

>>725016652
Considering modern maplestory is so different compared to the classic I don't think saving is the right word either. It's just to add an extra option for the players to choose from and bringing new/old players to nexon.

>>725016652
The Maplestory of 20 years ago and the Maplestory of today are two completely different games. And I wish that was an exaggeration - they are almost NOTHING alike.

>>725016652
why do you think nexon is doing this in the first place

>>725014617
The addition of the Cygnus Knights is where the story started to take shape, for better or worse.

>>725009040
At MapleCon they showed that they'll be adding new sections to old areas, so Classic will be seeing brand new content.

Will Arkarium and the Crusade questline appear in Classic?

>>725016594
I don't know man I'm not the one who wrote a whole post about the problem of mobs in an area you spend 10 minutes in

>>725008221
Introduced many items (especially potions) that completely destroyed the economy of the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRCihArw7sE

>>724990725
>Remove HP washing
Good news for you, HP Washing is gone. Nemi brought it up at MapleCon and implied it was done away with. Hyper Body got nerfed during the playtests, which also indicates damage values are likely modified so that HP isn't as crucial as it used to be
>Remove the game becoming if/when 4th jobs are added Bishopstory
>Remove endgame being leeching off of Mage ults
Give mage ultimates a hefty cooldown. That's all that's needed to kill the leech meta. Deleting NLC and everything associated with it (easy access to %MP potions) also helps.
>Enforce secondary stats to avoid the Dexless/Lukless and everyone in bathrobe, bamboo hats and maple weapons
There was nothing wrong with the concept of a secondary stat-less build. The problem was it was too fucking easy to do. INT, as a stat, needs a complete rework so that magicians have a reason to need LUK because as it is in OSMS there's zero reason to do so. For the rest, it was a matter of adding too many stat-less weapons like the Maple weapons, the Unwelcome/VIP weapons, etc. that were just too easy to access. Defense being worthless also contributed to not needing good class-specific gear.
>Add Pirates
I'm sure they'll be added sometime down the line, but I'm fine with them not being there at launch.

>>725008221
NLC added a fuckton of game-breaking, meta-defining features like overpowered potions/elixirs (easy access to highly cost effective potions, and Warrior Elixir basically made Fighter the most hated class in the game), best in slot equipment for the longest time (sheriff's badge, nocturne staff, among others, not even mentioning the gachapon), monsters that gave a fuckton of good shit (leprechauns gave easy access to mesos, wolf spiders gave easy access to Ilbis, among other things), the monsters were absurdly good for their level (to say nothing about the haunted mansion), and don't get me started on Bigfoot.

>>725019167
From the maplecon test client videos it seems like they lowered the secondary stat requirements on gear. I also remember someone pointing out that int to matt ratio was changed, but can not remember where I heard about it or did I just confuse it with something else when looking at this stuff.
They also changed things such as earrings having crit dmg and gloves having crit rate which would also counter against the usual work gloves. It would also incentivize having enough secondary stat to wear those higher level gloves for crit rate. Not sure how much they have adjusted numbers on gear, stats and just in general how much equipment will affect the gameplay now, but it seems like a possibility of having atleast a bit of secondary stat is needed.
Maybe later on with good enough gear and scrolled gear especially you can AP reset points from second stat to main one. Just like you could do with SP when you don't necessarily need something to be maxed or otherwise utilizing another skill/passive/buff to it's full extent. That or they give us enough SP to max out everything, who knows. Test client showed a full AP/SP reset being a single scroll (NX from cash shop) so they might have also removed the god awful 1 point per scroll.

>nexon promised years ago they will add back cwkpq
>they never did
>but maybe maple classic will have it back

its funny how it all comes full circle

>>725018825
I don't expect you to grasp the problem here, you have severe autism. You are clearly devoid of any intelligence.

>>725003991
first game sound like a fun grind
second like boring busywork

>>725020706
meant for
>>725004132

>>725020182
CWKPQ would mean bringing back NLC.
As much as I loved it, I'd rather it stay gone.

>>725021996
why? just rebalance the exp tables. there was never any good reason for the monsters to have enhanced hp/exp ratios to begin with.

classic WoW is so dead now it cant sustain a /vg/ thread anymore
classic maplestory will end up the same, just even faster

>>724987965 (OP)
I have high hopes for it since they said they'd rework bad skills to make more builds viable.
It worked in Diablo 2 remake, where they made pretty much every build viable, and while I have my doubts for CMS since >Nexon, Diablo is >Blizzard so there's hope some old guy with passion is working there.

>>724997058
Missing You legit makes me nostalgic for Maple, the irony

>>725022795
Looking at the test footage, 1st job warriors and archers now have nothing but good skills in their kits, which actually makes me worried about how SP distribution is going to be handled since if it goes by how it does in OSMS it's going to be impossible to max all the good skills (which can be good or bad depending on who you ask. I don't mind either way but I'm gonna be feeling anxious about it until I can try it for myself).

>>725010385
I hate it, it's not a class, maybe if they reworked it and released it as warrior's 4th path or something but hero "classes" should never come to Classic

I can't wait a year...

>>725022971
This is one of my problems with modern MS. At least 90% of the classes aren't classes, they're characters. Like you're picking a fucking moba hero or some shit instead of being your own character.

Do you think the cash shop will have P2W features (Pets, Reset scrolls, XP/Drop bonus scrolls, etc.) or will Nexon be generous and have it only be for cosmetics?

>>725023034
it won't take a year to come out.
they already said they could release a working version now if they wanted. they are holding back because they actually care about the project and want it to be good.

>>725022497
It wasn't just the XP from monsters, see >>725019004 and >>725019285

>>725023081
>Nexon
>Generous
Hell would freeze over sooner

>>725023129
more little things that are very easy to fix. no reason to purge a whole area when you can just replace the items in a potion shop

>>725023081
You're a fool if you don't think it isn't going to be heavily monetized. To what extent is yet to be seen, but all of what you mentioned will no doubt be included.

>>725022935
There might be changes to that as the beginner's tab has 9 skill points so you can max out all three instead of only two like before. It might be a test thing so have to wait and see with closed test.
Also one thing to keep in mind is that if they introduce the same SP/AP reset(one scroll reset all ap/sp) you can easily, paid, but still reset after 3rd job or 4th job and then remove points from mobbing/single-target skill that is replaced with a 3rd job or 4th job one.
>>725023034
I think there are some hints that could lead to a late spring release quite honestly. Releasing late may or april would also be a good move due to the actual anniversary of the game.
>>725023081
Pets + HP/MP equipment was already showcased in the test client at maplecon. Same with AP/SP reset however this was a single scroll that resets all of your AP and SP, excluding points put into HP/MP. Probably due to fixes against HP washing. I do hope they tone it down, but I'm expecting some p2w on top of these, but hope it isn't 2x coupons etc.

>>725023274
I wouldn't call 2x coupons pay to win. All they do is let you reach higher levels slightly faster, which only matters to ranking autists who do not deserve to be taken seriously.

>>725023326
As for 2x drop, oh cool your 0.05% drop chance turned into a 0.1% drop chance, big whoop de fucking do, you're still not guaranteed anything which kinda makes it a shoddy as fuck purchase when you think about it.

>didnt boost pally
its cringe I hate it by far the worst class to level and the worst damage till third job even than you need 10-15 levels to get your elemental damage skills up your stuck using second job shit for ages

>>725023326
>>725023468
While I am not going to go for leaderboards due to the absolute mess any sort of leaderboards/rankings in games are. I do think 2x coupons and other convenience/time saver stuff is p2w. Some don't agree as it isn't directly "buy gear with money" level of p2w and some also don't agree that p2w can exist in PvE. Getting to level twice as fast is however in my opinion a bit lame due to making the entire idea behind slow leveling less relevant and allows people to skip the process towards better meso farming/gear farming places due to levels and later on bossing also more accesible faster due to levels being the main thing limiting you.
2x drops is similar to 2x exp to me and while it honestly wouldn't bother me much as much as I dislike them, I'd still prefer them to not be in the game. I am siding towards them being on release, but one can always hope. Some levels of p2w is most definitely going to exist without a doubt.

>>725023487
Heroes are stuck with PS/SB until 4th job. Quit your bitching. Also Threaten was buffed.

What the fuck were Nexon thinking here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ3egkrlMZY

>>725023326
It's definitely pay2win, it's just not "unable to play without paying" tier.

>>725023565
>Threaten was buffed.
barely wowie -att shits worthless the class that goes >lmao damage hp pots what are those
granted its good for partys as are most pally skills

love spamming it tho cool looking skill

being a pally back in the day was fun you are considered some rare alien no one knows what you were able to do.

Fucking pvp was hilariously broken i would slaughter groups of people plus being able to remove all buffs caused so much seeth thats all while barely taking damage lmao its all i did for the update

>>725023816
https://animethemes.moe/anime/great_teacher_onizuka/OP1-NCDVD480

>>725005020
A LOTTA LOYALTY FOR A HIRED BLADE

>>724998965
Retard

>>725024447
You already lost the argument, no need to come back for seconds you laughable little retard

>>725024483
whatever, madwolf

>>725024483
>n..no u!!