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Anonymous No.724994627 [Report] >>724994924 >>724996284 >>724996651 >>724996887 >>724998714 >>725002367 >>725002509 >>725003048 >>725006009 >>725006549 >>725007438
How does he get away with it
Anonymous No.724994743 [Report]
something something great artists steal

I mean, people told you he is a hack 10 years ago
Anonymous No.724994748 [Report]
judiasm
Anonymous No.724994760 [Report]
>wtf he stole the idea of "golden armor and purple cloak..."
Anonymous No.724994924 [Report] >>724995953 >>724997856
>>724994627 (OP)
I would respect Toby even more if he was inspired by Lufia. I love Lufia and the Fortress of Doom.
Anonymous No.724995790 [Report] >>724996086 >>724997471 >>724998453 >>724998850 >>725007096 >>725007305 >>725007438
He failed to make the transition from modder to creator. His creations are basically modifications of pre-existing things, which was literally how he got his start in the gaming world, by modifying EarthBound.
When he makes a game, it looks like a game that already existed before. When he makes a song, it sounds like a song that already existed before. And so on.
Is that bad? No, but it is an easily noticeable characteristic of this author.
Someone might say, then, "that's true for all creators", but even if that were an absolute truth, it still wouldn't remove the fact that there are different degrees of similarity. There are authors where you recognize only their general inspiration, and there are others where you recognize each source material because they look extremely similar.
Anonymous No.724995953 [Report] >>724997146
>>724994924
he was
Anonymous No.724996086 [Report] >>724996167 >>724997847 >>725004675 >>725011625
>>724995790
What have you made, anon
Anonymous No.724996167 [Report] >>724996416 >>724998979
>>724996086
> "you have to be a chef..."
Anonymous No.724996284 [Report]
>>724994627 (OP)
Dude steals sound effects from nintendo and sold the game that killed the president so he couldn't sell it on stream. You could get him sued very easily though.
Anonymous No.724996416 [Report] >>724996506 >>724997481 >>724997847 >>724998909
>>724996167
You should make something before you say something as retarded as something should be as it was born in a fucking void, yes. Everything is inspired. There is nothing original. Your post is retarded.
Anonymous No.724996506 [Report] >>724998979
>>724996416
> you have to be a rocket scientist
> you have to be a movie director
> you have to be a writer
Anonymous No.724996651 [Report]
>>724994627 (OP)
sus
Anonymous No.724996887 [Report] >>724997319 >>724999532
>>724994627 (OP)
He won.
Anonymous No.724997146 [Report]
>>724995953
Well, you learn something new everyday. neat.
Anonymous No.724997319 [Report] >>724997406
>>724996887
People that steal are worthless, hes already forgotten and im happy for it.
Anonymous No.724997406 [Report] >>724997441 >>724997543
>>724997319
>hes already forgotten
Anonymous No.724997441 [Report]
>>724997406
He is. You are mentally ill.
Anonymous No.724997471 [Report]
>>724995790
>TLDR: Tobby is a hack
yeah, to deny it is just silly
Anonymous No.724997481 [Report]
>>724996416
wrong
Anonymous No.724997543 [Report] >>724997687 >>724997745 >>724997775 >>724997886 >>724997937 >>724998143 >>724999318 >>725002906
>>724997406
This is pretty wild, I even liked Undertale but he is no programming or game design genius, or particularly special in the grand scheme, I really don't understand this unless they were just desperate for a token white guy
Anonymous No.724997687 [Report] >>725003097
>>724997543
they simply like his games. have you ever seen jap UI design? they're perpetually stuck in the 1990s when it comes to programming. they don't care how good the code is, they care about how good the actual product is, and ut/dr struck a chord with them
Anonymous No.724997745 [Report] >>724997835
>>724997543
He is pretty social, and with the time he worked in nintendo he made connections
Turns out charisma irl is pretty OP
Anonymous No.724997775 [Report]
>>724997543
>I really don't understand this unless they were just desperate for a token white guy
He is the token lousy mouth guy, for us is hell to meet someone like that for them he is a novelty
Anonymous No.724997835 [Report] >>724997905 >>724998015
>>724997745
>Chibi with a game thats full of stolen assets
>high charisma

lmao
Anonymous No.724997847 [Report] >>724997938
>>724996086
>>724996416
I've already addressed what you said. "Nothing is original" does not mean that all things are equally inspired. There are things that vaguely resemble something else, and there are other things that seem like literal copies.
I think Toby leans more toward copying than inspiration, but that's just one of his characteristics. That doesn't mean his stuff is bad, but I think it diminishes him as an artist, which is why fans get so defensive when someone simply describes one of his easily visible characteristics.

As for me, yes, I have created a few things, including games that became relatively well known in the underground scene. I focus on narrative and character creation, and the only redeeming feature of my writing is precisely the fact that it is quite original, making it practically impossible to describe my style using anything other than my own creations as a reference.
Again, that in itself is not a good thing. Take Cyriak, for example, who has a very unique style of music that you can't compare to other artists, but in the end, it all sounds like total shit, LOL.
Anonymous No.724997856 [Report] >>724999073 >>725003240
>>724994924
but anon, that's rise of the sinistrals
Anonymous No.724997886 [Report]
>>724997543
Japan really liked Undertale and he's fluent in Japanese
Based on what he's done in the past decade he must have some genuine charisma and people/networking skills, the speed and extent of him climbing the ladder and integrating himself into the Japanese side of the industry would be impressive for anyone and is basically unprecedented for a white boy
Anonymous No.724997905 [Report] >>724998121
>>724997835
>charisma
not int, not wis
yes, if the people who would sue him are happy with him, they wont, funny how the world works huh?
Anonymous No.724997937 [Report]
>>724997543
Japs view Undertale like we viewed Yume Nikki
Anonymous No.724997938 [Report]
>>724997847
>making it practically impossible to describe my style using anything other than my own creations as a reference
Anonymous No.724998015 [Report]
>>724997835
>stolen assets
...Such as?
Anonymous No.724998121 [Report] >>724998283
>>724997905
Nah he's quite literally a cha and wis void, i know the archetype hes an insufferable faggot.

Wanna know who are really friendly and charismatic people? Japs, specifically the older generations fukken samurai n shiet. Modern japs are cucks.
Anonymous No.724998143 [Report]
>>724997543
The Japanese fucking love Undertale. It doesn't matter if its poorly programmed or designed. How do you think he got Sans into fucking Smash bros? Because he has clout or pull? No, it's just really well liked over there.
Anonymous No.724998283 [Report]
>>724998121
>hes an insufferable faggot
hussie?
If he was annoying, he wouldn't be where he is right now, as everything is just a remix of something else, someone would had sued him out by now, and he wouldn't have neither a fanbase nor friends everywhere, you're just vomiting nonsense at this point
>Modern japs are cucks.
modern and old nips just obey blindly their duty as corpo slaves, that hasn't changed
Anonymous No.724998453 [Report] >>724998539 >>724998830
>>724995790
>When he makes a song, it sounds like a song that already existed before.
Tell me what song sounds like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f1RK1m7qvc
Anonymous No.724998539 [Report] >>724998630
>>724998453
garbage
Anonymous No.724998630 [Report]
>>724998539
I didn't ask for your opinion.
Anonymous No.724998714 [Report]
>>724994627 (OP)
It's a clear allusion to LTTP Ganon, not whatever your picture is
Anonymous No.724998830 [Report] >>724999114
>>724998453
No, thank you. I'm not interested in Toby's work. If you want, there are about 50 videos on YouTube showing where he got his ideas from.That doesn't mean he's a plagiarist, it just means he has a strong tendency to modify other people's work; after all, he is a modder.
Anonymous No.724998850 [Report]
>>724995790
Toby's compositions are generally pretty original outside of some outliers like "Ghost Fight" being obviously derivative of "Pepper Steak"
Anonymous No.724998909 [Report]
>>724996416
You're 100% correct by the way. Nobody will tell you this because it looks like samefagging but who cares what these cocksucking faggots think.
Anonymous No.724998943 [Report]
someone being inspired by one of my favorite games of all time isn't a negative point to me.

spido jewel
Anonymous No.724998979 [Report]
>>724996167
>>724996506
You DO have to be SOMETHING
Anonymous No.724999073 [Report]
>>724997856
thats fortress of dooms beginning where you play as the lufia 2 cast for a bit. the battle screen was set up differently between the two
Anonymous No.724999114 [Report]
>>724998830
So you make spurious claims about other people's work and can't back them up?
Whose work is he modifying? Surely you have some examples in mind.
Anonymous No.724999318 [Report]
>>724997543
everyone at that table considers him an equal developer, and Japan went WILD over Undertale and Deltarune.
Anonymous No.724999532 [Report] >>724999747
>>724996887
I hate this humblebragging little worm with every fiber of my being.
Anonymous No.724999747 [Report] >>725001657
>>724999532
Anonymous No.725001657 [Report]
>>724999747
me on the left
Anonymous No.725002367 [Report]
>>724994627 (OP)
I wish we could get a new Lufia game...
Anonymous No.725002451 [Report]
By pandering to fags. They'll defend anything if you pander to them.
Anonymous No.725002509 [Report] >>725004145
>>724994627 (OP)
Nobody outside of Japan played Lufia before emulation became widespread
Anonymous No.725002906 [Report]
>>724997543
Undertale really resonated with plenty of people and has made an impact.
Anonymous No.725003048 [Report] >>725003591 >>725004272 >>725004385
>>724994627 (OP)
Amon's Lufia 2 design is better. Not that any of you dorks even played Lufia 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBnYGYa6l3M
Anonymous No.725003097 [Report] >>725006514
>>724997687
yeah nah. something shady is going on.
Anonymous No.725003240 [Report]
>>724997856
It most certainly is not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXXNfZdqx8M
Anonymous No.725003591 [Report]
>>725003048
isnt lufia 1 the one nobody played
i certainly didnt play it
Anonymous No.725004145 [Report]
>>725002509
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lufia#List_of_media
?
Anonymous No.725004272 [Report]
>>725003048
I don't remember which lufia i played...
I should try it again one day
Anonymous No.725004358 [Report]
would you cum in toby's ass though
Anonymous No.725004385 [Report]
>>725003048
1 nigga has a green glow though, I'll go with that
Anonymous No.725004509 [Report]
I doubt Taito is super litigious about a sprite from the long-dead Lufia franchise, especially because this is clearly inspired by/an homage to the design but not directly aping it.
Anonymous No.725004675 [Report]
>>724996086
CAN YOU NAME EVEN ONE THING?
I THOUGHT NOT.
Anonymous No.725006009 [Report]
>>724994627 (OP)
all the time
Anonymous No.725006514 [Report]
>>725003097
you clearly have never seen any Japanese streamers if you think UT's popularity there isn't genuine. They will use their high end PCs to play the shittiest rpgmaker and mock-ps1 games imaginable.
Anonymous No.725006549 [Report]
>>724994627 (OP)
for amerimutts if it ain't made or said by a jew it doesn't exist
Anonymous No.725006874 [Report]
How is it that to this day Lufia still has the best dungeon diving mechanic via the Ancient Cave in a jrpg?
Anonymous No.725007096 [Report]
>>724995790
The truth is alot of one hit wonders only have one real game in them and then they spend the rest of their 'careers' remaking the same thing over and over with increasing levels of sellout-edness. In the vidya industry it's extremely rare to see them successfully pivot into making another game that isn't just the same game again. Happened to Toby, Happened to Notch, Happened to Phil Fish and Peter Molyneux. Ironically one of the few to avoid this was Pixel who made Kero Blaster which definitely stands well apart from Cavestory.
Anonymous No.725007305 [Report]
>>724995790
I've seen literally nobody talk about redline in the Toby is a hack threads. Listened to both independently, and still had no idea.
Anonymous No.725007438 [Report] >>725011437
>>724994627 (OP)
>>724995790
A Unique creation is basically
Inspiration + Creators Personality + Abnormal Mental Processing and Conceptualization.

Toby is to much of a normie to do proper warping of concepts into unrecognizability but compensates with an encyclopedic knowledge of his Inspiration allowing him to interrogate the medium while filling in the rest with his personality.
Anonymous No.725011437 [Report] >>725012046
>>725007438
examples?
Anonymous No.725011625 [Report] >>725012080
>>724996086
>i'm going to dodge whatever point you made and demand you give me fuel for ad-hominem
pathetic and retarded form of argumentation
Anonymous No.725012046 [Report] >>725012275
>>725011437
For a quick and dirty example
Lisa is a mishmash of Mad Max, Fist of the North Star, Children of Men and other various post-apocalypse stories. That's the inspiration.
Then you add in his personal humor and thoughts on masculinity, femininity, and drug abuse for the personality.
And lastly you have the design of the joy mutants the shape of the trauma delusions and drug use and the uniqueness caused by thinking "what if there was no women" and running with that in a world filled with shit like guys who roll around in barrels, or most of the party members, or the using a deer as a horse and you get the mental divergence blending the inspiration and personality aspects into something new.

In contrast Toby while oozing personality is has to much of a normal brain reverence for the source material he is dawning from and it limits his ability to conceptualize as many unique aspects, which is to say he can sometimes but not often enough that, if it wasn't for the lack of knowledge of his influences to his fanbase, to escape the shadow of what inspired him.
Anonymous No.725012080 [Report]
>>725011625
Whatever you say, retard.
Anonymous No.725012275 [Report]
>>725012046
As an addendum Toby's more normal brain also allows him to avoid things like Austin's mental breakdown which is why in most industries the grounded buy technically skilled normies rise to the top.