Thread 724994879

After beating Bloodlines 2, I wanted to take a break, but I was craving more WoD games like I crave dopamine so I went and put Bloodlines 1 back on and, uh...the game, as a GAME... does not hold up very well.

Granted, a part of it was cause I forgot to set my steam to play the version with the Unofficial patch (and I will be playing again with it on this time) but uh, wow is the game just... not very functional.

While the Unofficial patch will certainly address some of the more egregious issues, I was just kind of gob smacked by how technically fucked baseline Bloodlines 1 was. And to check if I wasn't crazy, I went and tried Kotor 1 again since its a similar kind of RPG from about the same time period and Kotor, while definitely showing its age and not immune to problems, had nowhere near this level of jank. And there is shit here that I do not think the Unofficial Patch can fix.

Bloodlines 2, on the other hand, ran very smoothly for me. I encountered a grand total of one bug in the whole game and all it did was put a quest marker in a weird location until I finished that quest. Bloodlines 2 has some design issues and a few big missing quality of life features, but it is very much well put together as a game. Yes, that should be the standard by 2025 but it really isn't. But going from 2 back to 1 made me appreciate it more, and also understand why they may have thought removing, overhauling, and changing a lot of these systems was a good idea. I still love Bloodlines 1 but I get it.

I do think they threw the baby out with the bath water but that tub needed some dumping.

>he bought the game
ngmi

>>724994879 (OP)
>this post is stealth marketing

>>724995897
Nobody markets to a gaggle of foreigners who brag to each other about how they pirate everything and aren't "wagies" i.e. they have no disposable income and aren't employed/employable. Pull your head out of your ass.

>>724994879 (OP)
Still trying to convince your employers not to kick you out, Rajesh?

>>724996528
Still making the same repetitive joke, faggot?

>>724994879 (OP)
Everyone knows the combat and movement is janky, but most everything else is perfect.

The big problem with melee is that you get forward momentum with each strike, which means you are propelling yourself PAST the enemy most of the time. A lot of combat ends up being button mashing while being very OP with spells and equipment.

Going slow mode and gunning everything down is a nice option, since it turns it into first person discount max payne, but it also makes the jank a tad bit more tolerable.

>>724997550
>but most everything else is perfect
not really, the game falls off a cliff in the second half, most of the dialogue options amounts to nothing, there's no real choice until the end and that's just which cutscene you want, that majority of your time is spent engaging with broken or unfun systems

it had great graphics back in the day and a sort of unique setting, but it hasn't aged well at all

>>724997845
>the game falls off a cliff in the second half,

it's clearly rushed, and you have three long as hell dungeons with almost forced combat for the entire way. If you're a run-n-gun type character like me it's VERy easy to deplete your entire ammo stock and have to retreat to buy more many, many, times throughout it. I learned the hard way that you should use your katana for the Geo-dudes.

That aside it's still pretty good.

>undying proof that even the damned can love
kino

>>724994879 (OP)
>Bloodlines 2, on the other hand, ran very smoothly for me
doubt

>>724997845
>most of the dialogue options amounts to nothing
and it literally didn't matter because the dialog was fun
now we have BL2 where the dialog options still amount to nothing, but all of the dialog is either sterile or from reddit

>>725000483
she didnt love though

>>725003686
She tells you she does.

>>725003930
she is a vampire, a toreador, and a woman - believing self serving things she says is foolishness. Regent Strauss had the wisdom to reject her advances because he knows all about it.

>>725003994
What would she have to gain from saying she loves you after you've already done her quests?

>>725004051
Manipulation. Investment in the future. Don't think in video game terms where she's an npc quest vendor and you know you'll never interact again, think like undead monsters living an eternity in Los Angeles and always scheming, of course she says these things to you. Everytime you're around she'll remind you how special you are and how dear and oh by the way the rent is late.

>>724994879 (OP)
>Granted, a part of it was cause I forgot to set my steam to play the version with the Unofficial patch (and I will be playing again with it on this time) but uh, wow is the game just... not very functional.
Stopped reading here. Might as well just admit that you're a retard. It does hold up perfectly fucking fine, I replayed it earlier this year.

>>724994879 (OP)
What made Bloodlines 1 so unforgettable is the writing and that's it. It's a vibes games and nothing else. Music, outfits, character behavior, dialogue, voice acting. That's what it's all about. And if Bloodlines 2 had hit those same vibes and tone it would have been another flawed masterpiece just like Bloodlines 1.

>>725004815
it's the environmental art first and foremost, with the sound & music design in close second.

>>724994879 (OP)
1 was developed on a unfinished Source engine branch by a small team over three years, and was hamstrung by the release of Half Life 2 afaik.
2 was 10 years of misguided mismanagement by a huge publisher that needed to make something to keep the IP, and a sizable amount of devs who had no actual interest in the original game.

>>725005540
Did they all make it?

We've hit the actually the old one was bad but I still liked it guise but not as much as the second shilling era I see.

Is this copy pasted from Reddit because I don’t know anywhere else retarded enough to type “uh” like they’re fingers don’t know what to say next

>>725005831
Yeah, that's the original dev team at Troika Games.
They made it.

>>724995951
You do since you are paid to you pathetic faggot. Kill yourself.

>>725006180
Nobody markets here, it is a bunch of unsocial, friendless, unemployed pirates, the least desirable market besides a literal graveyard. It's just a delusion for dumbass faggots to repeat to each other here, and one they never have to confirm with reality so it just snow balls in your faggot brain.

>>725006143
No it's not "the dev team" but the producers and project leads. They each had a team working for them.

This whole notion of "omg X was made by 10 people!!" is never true. Those games either had a larger team, outsourced their asset production or bought a license for a collection. The only games that really were legitimately made by 1-5 guys are barely animated pixel art or VNs.

>>725006719
You do and have been for months. The fact you’re seething so hard about every one here is the biggest fucking indicator. What did your fellow cucks at the chink room finally let you know shitlines flopped? Did you get fired? Here’s an idea, drink bleach. No one is going to miss you.

After finishing vtmb2 I decided to give a vtnb1 a chance and boy it's shit. Uncles should kill themselves vtmb2 is so much better in every way from graphics to gameplay. Just but it and see for yourself or watch yt comparisons

>>725006719
>it is a bunch of unsocial, friendless, unemployed pirates, the least desirable market besides a literal graveyard
So why do you post here?

I miss the old days

>>725007084
No, this is the "never have to confirm with reality" part of what I said, you pull an assertion out of your six hundred pound ass, and it never gets tested, it never gets proven, it's just some dumb shit for you to repeat.

>>725007185
Habit, and because the internet has been destroyed. There's no where to talk anymore, it's a place like this where the site is overrun with 65 IQ ESL somalis yelling "shill!" at each other all day, or faggot redditors fagging out with each other.

>>725006719
Fuck you.

>>725007365
Fuck you too faggot, get a job and maybe someone will bother to market to you instead of gay ass paranoid delusions about "shills" on a dying website that hasn't been relevant in twenty years and can't sell a banner ad.

>>724994879 (OP)
>how could a present day game work better than the turbojank spaghetti code from a game everybody knew it was buggy af even at the time of it's release??????
what a fucking retarded b8 thread

>>725007667
It is extremely rare for a present day game to work better than a game from the 2000s. Or to work at all.

>>725007303
>WAAAAAH ITS NOT HAPPENING
Every time you do this you set yourself up to get btfo because you have a distinct pattern that has been recorded in the archives. And whenever the archives are shown you start having a mental breakdown and scream and project your psychosis on everyone else. You lost, buy some razors and slit your wrists.
https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/0stxSh25HM3Hq0FP3_n-Bw/

>>724994879 (OP)
>TCR shills trying to libel the first game in an effort to heal their bruised egos.

>>725006929
>This whole notion of "omg X was made by 10 people!!" is never true.
This is what modern brain rot does to a nigga

>>725007778
>oh yeah well here's this archive showing multiple people posting the same image that you didn't post so that proves it!
Hey look, I posted the same image as you, now we're both shills right? Shill shill shill, shilly shill, gotta extract the market value from these unemployed pirates with no social influence and no disposable income, right? Gotta get to shilling!

That, or you're a faggot retard who just says faggot retard shit, never has to confirm it with reality, and so gets to go on believing in delusional faggot retard shit.

>>725007924
Then prove me wrong, faggot.

>>725007837
He has been doing this since the beginning. Every time he fails he just cries about VtMB and says its bad. When in reality he is just seething that a game made over 20 years ago mogged shitlines.

>>725008050
Watching your steady decline has been entertaining. You're at the point where you can do nothing but cry and scream the dumbest shit. I have broken some shills in the past but you are the most entertaining by far. Now do the world a favor and jump off of a bridge. I hear Brighton has an aqueduct you can plummet from.

>>725008068
They deserve the ridicule for hijacking a project that they had no right to take over.

>>724994879 (OP)
Bloodlines 1 isn't gay and retarded.
That alone makes it way better than anything from this decade.

Bloodlines 2 is gay and retarded.
If you like it, you are gay and retarded. Facts.

>>725008236
100% I am waiting to hear word of layoffs. And judging from the shills latest tantrum they are either imminent or are happening as we speak.

>>725008190
Acknowledging that you're a delusional faggot and a retard isn't a 'decline', it's just being a member of reality. You say dumb shit, it has no connection to reality and is never tested against it, it makes no sense, you repeat it endlessly, you "prove" it with retarded non sequiturs, and you should kill yourself. Your skin is the color of shit, and you should die. I'm so fucking tired of how goddamned stupid and unselfaware you troons are, "internet hate machine" was before you were born, you have no jobs and no money and no friends, nobody is advertising to you here, the advertising is done on reddit and x where they can buy updoots and likes and whatever. All you're doing is shitting your pants.

I think it's really quite bad that I can't tell if it's a genuine shill or someone who does this just to be a shithead. and make everything worse.

>>725008297
I just gave proof and not only did you not deny it was you, you went on a psychotic rant about how everyone is a shill to cope. You failed, find a muslim to slit your throat and stop burdening reality with the cancer that is your existence.
>you have no jobs
Judging by how mad you are you don't have one lol.

>>725008351
Did you have a moment of clarity and realize that you're having the biggest shitfit yet so have to plant a seed of doubt like this? Because the soil is so salted that no one would fall for this. Everyone knows you're a shill.

>>725008351
>I can't tell
You're almost there, maybe you have a sliver of sanity left. Here's a hint: if you're on a dead porn website with the worst demo in the world and no ability to highlight/suppress things, you're not being shilled at. It's just a buzzword faggots bark out to kill threads. See this retard:

>>725008521
>muh proof
Your 'proof' is a non sequitur that you see as proof because you're delusional and retarded. I can't make it any plainer. It's like if I called you a shill and my proof was that I called you a shill last year. It's just fucking dumb. You should be killed with an axe for being this faggy and dumb.

>>724994879 (OP)
it's okay to have a wrong opinion

>>725008621
>Your 'proof' is a non sequitur
>A non sequitur is a statement that does not logically follow from what was said before
>you can never prove anything
>yes i can shows retarded behavior in the archives
>does not deny that it is him and just cries and throws a tantrum
You prove yourself to be more of an insane faggot with every post. No wonder you could only get a job shilling games online, and you were so shit at that they fired your ass.

>>724994879 (OP)
>all that text without naming a single instance of the game not working
What happened to you exactly when "you" ""played"" """VtMB"""?

>>725008865
>you can never prove anything
This is a statement you imagined. Yes, things can be proven, you just aren't able to do so because you're a raving nig brained retard.
>does not deny that it is him
I've been denying it the entire time, I didn't even click your link, I've just seen your faggy ass spamming these threads for the last several days with the same gay bullshit. Read dumbass.

>th-they're going to fire you!
earlier:
>>725008521
>you don't have one
wow, Schrodinger's shill, simultaneously employed to sell a video game to unemployed broke ass pirates who live on christmas money, but also unemployed. crazy.

I'm closing the tab and going to sleep, you're a huge faggot and I sincerely hope that instead of getting treated for mental illness you just get hit by a bus, you have no human value and the faggot zoomoids that have turned /v/ into just discords barking shill at each other deserve the worst.

>>725009060
I have no idea, I copied it from reddit because I thought it was funny. Unfortunately modern /v/ is too fucking dumb and gay for even a basic rile up thread, it's just repetitive schizo shit and discord shit. I pray for mass suicides here.

>>725009096
>This is a statement you imagined
You literally said "it never gets proven" here >>725007303 I don't understand why you default to lying like this when It can be proven wrong so quickly, Like are you that mentally ill that you have to just fall apart and be completely unable to think like a functional human being?
>I've been denying it the entire time
You never said that it was not you in the archive once and you just went apeshit.
> I didn't even click your link
You did, you just have to say you didn't now to cope with the fact your dumb ass has been outed yet again.
>wow, Schrodinger's shill
No, more that you were fired, which is why you are seething so hard now.
>I'm closing the tab and going to sleep
Good, and while you're at it down a bottle of sleeping pills and make your night go on forever you pathetic loser.

>>725009170
>a-actually its just bait and don't take anything i say seriously
God, you are pathetic holy shit. Go to sleep retard, you have already embarrassed yourself enough.

This dude has been doing this for so long I hope he's getting paid. If this is just some weird autism I wish he'd go back to playing VTMB2 since he loves it so much instead of coming here

>>725009170
>no sense of humor
>no purpose to the thread
>browses reddit like a tumor
>tries to deflect

Anyway, this is my thread now, so you better get gone unless you wanna get got, kiddo.

I've never seen a shill get so blown the fuck out before.

I'm holding Elysium and declaring myself the Prince of /v/

>>724994879 (OP)
>Game that came out in 2025 is smoother and more optimised than a 2004 game
>says its got loads of jank and doesnt say what
Im guessing this is a bait thread but youre still retarded

>>725009812
Shills like to steal shit from reddit, this one has done it before where he took an image of some retard with the collectors edition's pic in another thread. He has to cry that its bait now to cope.

>>725010037
You look kind of dumb now desu

>>725010150
I can find the post you did this with in the archives and you will just keep crying. How does it feel knowing you are dumber that random retards on 4chan?

>>725010209
>you
NTA tranny

>>725010250
You are literally the only person that would defend yourself like this and you are already seething. Also you are shilling a tranny game. You lost, and had to pretend to run away just to keep going and cry how you were baiting.

>>725009959
playing Redemption made me realize how gay Bloodlines fans are in the first place.

>>725010354
stay seething shill

>>725010407
I am not seething. Just sad.

>>725010371
The fact you always immediately cry meds while having a mental breakdown never fails to amuse. If I am wrong the post a screencap.

>>725007264
>Modern Lasombra generating AI photos of themselves

>>725009635
He was shilling even before TCR was announced as the new team for Bloodlines 2.
He is genuinely mentally ill.

>>725007084
Kek, he got fired.

>>725006719
There has been definitive proof of shilling for over like a decade..........you are so bad at your job lmao

Gee, the game that came out before the flagship of its own engine might be a bit faulted, guys.

>>724994879 (OP)
>Curryniggers are still shilling Wokelines 2.
Kek

>>724994879 (OP)
It's okay to have an opinion. But B2 is still a shit game and I shant be buying it.

>>725012371
>definitive proof
>anons acting like they do
This post is extremely low quality.

>>724994879 (OP)
Just stop. Bloodlines 2 is mediocre at best. Redemption is better.

>>725013772
facts

>>725013772
Can't even play as a lesbian

>>725013974
>t. an average bloodlines fan

>>725014138
I asked insert as a female Toreador despite being male IRL. I romance (have lesbian sex with) Jeanette and Heather, also Yuki and VV with mods. This means I use blush of life to allow my pussy to be eaten and to eat theirs in turn.

Can't do that in redemption because it's old.

>ah shit we implied it's vaguely an rpg
>better unlist this shit