Thread 725005075

I'm done with this overrated pile of shit. I'm tired of the game requiring some of worst most cheap tactics just to progress. The game is such a repetitive slog of kiting and back walking and shooting. Even worse the fans have zero idea what they're talking about when it comes to strategies or builds. I'm really tired of the boring trashy combat

git gud

Okay then play something else.

user being bad at videogames issue

>>725005075 (OP)
I couldn't get into it either. The only game in the series I've really enjoyed so far is 3.

>>725005075 (OP)
Are (you) that anon that was bitching about oozes earlier in the day?

>>725005214
>level 1
is such a thing possible?

>>725005075 (OP)
skill issue

>>725005075 (OP)
One of my favorite games of all times, though i like MM4+5 World of Xeen more.

The game is easy once you learn its basically a FPS and give bows to everyone and learn some gimmic spells use and buffs (including need to teleport around to get buffs from wells)

>>725005075 (OP)
Well, I never!

>>725005075 (OP)
lmao retard

>>725005075 (OP)
I always hated how the Might and Magic games shoved SciFi into their Fantasy worlds.

I always thought it was the lamest thing when fantasy settings would do that, and I still think that to this day. Thankfully we're not all running on Star Wars fever anymore so it's a bit more rare outside of "This fantasy world used to be high tech!" Type twists.

>>725005075 (OP)
>it's another "zoomer gets tricked by sseth into playing a game that requires you to be 30+ and Slavic to enjoy" episode

>>725008320
Shit taste. Go play thousands of games that are literally pure fantasy instead of shitting up a thread that has one that isnt, retard.

>>725008320
Its a Wizardy thing - Wizardy spawned the whole genre really, and MnM had it well integrated.

SciFi is integral part of MnM rpgs, sadly the Heroes series played it down drastically.

>>725008436
More like not being subhuman ape and being able to see past the old graphics

>>725007246
Apparently, you get some skillpoints from horseshoes, MM6 lets you learn LLoyds with just Expert Water, so 1 beacon at temple, 1 at strongest buff shrine you can find, 1 at dugeon you're doing and hop between them. Slow but doable.

>>725008609
But m&m was inspired by star trek...

RPGs had a rough transition to 3D.

>>725009150
no

>>725009531
Yes, retard. Star Trek literally has an episode where people travel on VARN and have forgotten everything about technology and praise their AI as a god and oracle.

>>725009842
And no one gives a fuck. MM is direct Wizardy clone and only references to Star Treck are jokes the ones you dont know since you never played MM3-4

You have not the slightest clue what you talk about

>>725009906
>entire lore is directly inspired by it
>no one gives a fuck
Yeah, sure thing tard.

>>725009970
>entire lore
once again, you are retard making conclusions from single joke in MM6

play MM3-5 and read its lore. It has nothing to do with Star Trek, its mostly a parody on lots of things.

'Sape thread detected

To be fair to OP, I went back to Wizardy 8 a couple years back and got my shit rolled. How did I ever get good at and have patience for these types of games when I was like 10?

Might and Magic 9

>>725010324
A soulful mess, too based for most

>>725008436
Stop projecting zoomer. You'll never be one of us and no one watches youre or cares about you e celeb twitch youtuber nigger

>>725010324
had some neat ideas, but the engine change was rough
>Lich with bugged Learning

>>725010324
I liked that plot beat where you had to purposefully die to get to heaven or w/e

>>725005075 (OP)
No other game has that same feeling when you carpet bomb the zone with meteors and starfall

>>725008609
The first five Wizardry games didn’t have any sci-fi elements.

>>725010558
the removal of the inventory system was too much of a loss of soul

>>725008320
Every M&M thread some autistic retard comes in with his hot take UMMM SCIFI BAD shut the fuck up nigga it's FUN go suck Skyrim's dick or something

>>725005075 (OP)
>game has any difficulty at all
>THIS IS SO BULLSHIT THE GAME LITERALLY **FORCES** ME TO LIKE... USE TACTICS?
>THIS IS BROKEN THIS IS BAD DESIGN
>EVERYONE WHO LIKES THIS IS ACTUALLY CLUELESS
I am so fucking tired, man.
Remember when /v/ specifically the refuge away from these kinds of people?

>>725008609
Only Wizardry 6/7/8 did the scifi thing.
It was always M&M's shtick, though.

>suddenly MM6 threads everyday
Which internet personality showed it to people?

>>725008609
wizardry started doing scifi after MM. devs said MM was scifi cuz star trek

>>725010095
>single joke in MM6
what joke you retard? Tomb of Varn is a vital lore drop and one of the most memorable dungeons in the game, and the oracle being an AI is pretty much the single most important part of the story of the entire game - you explore the world and help people in the beginning only to meet the oracle, and then spend the rest of the game getting the AI cores for it.

Pick me!

>>725015262
>Choose me or suffer!
How do you respond without sounding mad?

>>725010095
>>725015158
Watch the Star Trek episode For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky, and it’ll be obvious that Might and Magic wouldn’t exist without it. It’s even written somewhere on a wall in Might and Magic I.

>>725015262
Piss off, you money-pinching misers!

>>725015342
Just click next

>>725008320
it's not a fucking twist, it's a trope that's in almost every single fantasy RPG
you fags don't even play these games and just complain about stuff, the overarching plot got botched because of retards like you

>>725018168
You're right, aliens show up as early as the first few hours of Might and Magic 1.

>>725014723
hey hey people

>>725017328
there are also the passwords in the main scenario quest

ITT:

>>725018756
Fuck off faggot. This game isn't his game, you retarded nigger zoomer

>>725005075 (OP)
If you play the game "as intended", it's a bit of a slog, because enemies hit really hard and your party just sucks until way later.
And that's why alot of people "abuse" the early game portals hidden in the starting town, get op and just breeze through the first couple hours of the game.
You should have done the same desu.

>>725019837
Well I'm finally making progress again so it's gotten better and I'm not so pissed now. I just hate hitting difficulty walls mid dungeon plus I have no idea how to really build my party. Do we get plenty of skill points? Like enough to focus on a couple skills or do we have to really specialize? Can I focus on two magic schools for example to mastery? (before the supposed light school in the late that I'm told to get later on?

>>725005075 (OP)
is that nancy pelosi?

Buff you team at fountains
Use teleport and repeat
Profit!!!

>>725021585
>Can I focus on two magic schools for example to mastery?
I loaded an old end game save to check, pic rel is my character sheet, spoilered in case you don't want to know exactly how much you get to level up normally.
But tl;dr yes, you'll be able to master multiple schools fairly easily, though it might be a good idea to still focus more on one or two max, since spells still scale with your skill level even beyond just getting "master". But also leveling up one thing means it will get extremely expensive eventually, which is why maybe it's fine to do multiple schools.

>>725022652
>Penis Master level 6
>that giant cock nearly as tall as he is
You've done some impressive grinding with that save file.

>>725021585
you can get several skills to 20+, because maps reset (repopulate) every 6-12 months, so you never run out of things to kill, there is a hard cap for character level, but it's like level 200 or 255 so you realistically won't reach it, and there's a hard cap for skill level, which is like 50 which is already massive overkill

>>725005075 (OP)
I'm waiting for that sourceport before I play, I wish there was more Grimrock.

>>725024120
try MM10, it goes back to square grid roots of the series

>>725021585
You get quite alot of skill points, don't worry if your stuff is sub optimal or you wasted a few levels here and there in the long run.
Just get Water Mastery (level 12) asap, loyds beacon makes the game alot easier.
Air mastery is also neat.
Later in the game you should focus on Light and dark magic, get Light magic mastery first because you need a saintly reputation for mastery, after you got that one tank your reputation by killing NPCs and get dark mastery, don't try to do it the other way around, getting your reputation up is hard.
But until then just focus on stuff like sword, bow, disarm trap and armor and elemental magic.
Meditate, learning and body building are also quite useful.
Don't worry, the game is based around doing cheesy stuff whenever things get hard.

>>725024120
They haven’t even finished the Might and Magic 7 port yet, and they’ll only get to Might and Magic 6 after that. You’ll be old and gray by the time it’s done. The GrayFace patch makes it completely playable anyway, so don’t bother waiting for the source port.

>>725014434
Even elder scrolls does scifi shit

>>725022652
How have you gotten through this game without Lloyd's Beacon?

>>725005075 (OP)
i played 7 for two days straight (no sleep) back when covid was a thing.
it was the only game i've ever played which made me stay up for two days straight.

then i stopped playing it cold turkey after about two weeks.

>>725024530
you don't need master water for Lloyd's in 6, it just means a short duration which is enough for teleporting to town and back.

>>725024231
Is it any good?

>>725025812
Where? Steam punk doesn't count

>>725026473
Why without? You don't need it on every single character.

Bump

>>725027056
it's decent, nice looking and not too grindy, kinda short though

>>725005075 (OP)
>see your faggot child blog post threads as you play
>anyone who effortposts just lists the most gamey archaic bullshit about how dont worry these 3 skills dont even fucking work and oh yeah melee is basically useless so you need to use these 3 exact builds and you need to go to dungeons X and Y first to get the bullshit amulet so you can cheese the nigger hell dungeon
It finally clicked for me that games like this arent good. They were at the time but I cant stand playing anything like this anymore thats like an ancient singleplayer version of modern mp meta bullshit. Make your fucking skills and classes relevant and oh yeah functional. Make your fucking game work. Difficulty is good, complexity is good, even esoteric systems can be good. But not shitty unbalanced, broken or "woops we forgot to actually put any code relevant to that major skill into the game...for 27 years"

>>725022652
Why did you black out the Alien Energy Rifle that you get and use to kill the Demons/Alien at the end of the game? Really odd decision to hide something so important, especially when you can go and get it basically as soon as starting the game.

>>725008320
My one issue with it is how blasters just outdamage whatever other method of damage you have equipped so you spend all early game leveling your dark magic and sword, getting the best skill boosting gear and all for what? Getting a blaster with 0 delay in the late game and outdoing your dps at skill level 1. It's the ultimate and final cuck if you think about it logically.

>>725031659
>especially when you can go and get it basically as soon as starting the game
Unless you're talking about some radical sequence skip this is just not true, you need to do council member quests to see oracle, find control crystals for oracle, and do tomb of varn for yet another mcguffin (aka all the biggest/toughest dungeons) before you get access to the weapons.

>>725007246
Sure, you can just craft black potions and get max stats in 5 minutes. And let's nor forget the secret teleporters that take you to endgame treasures right at the start.
Skill levels are more important than levels. Even your HP/MP is more dependant on your bodybuilding/meditation skill than your actual level

Do I need to worry about aging in M&M 6? What about M&M 7 and 8?

The only problem with old crpgs is the fact you have to metafag because you can pick a class that's 99 percent useless and you wouldn't never know that until it's too late

>>725033409
Not at all. I think you have to play for like 100 years for it to start crippling your characters stats.

>>725024231
Oh really? That's pretty nea-
>Always online+UBIshit account required
Nah bro, I'm good.

>>725021585
Early on : travel to every village using the caravan, and grab all the horseshoes in all the stables to be dripping in skill points.
Later on, there's a fountain around the Minotaur fortress that gives your party +1 level for money, with increasing cost. But you can easily get billions of gold, and literally spam that fountain for 10 minutes and end up lvl 1000+.

Btw the max level is 32767, after that the game says fuck it and goes to -32768, setting you back to 1 HP and 0 MP.

>>725033409
Aging by playing the game for too long is a non-issue. Aging by ghost attacks is temporary and easily reversible.
The only consequence for letting the days go by is that areas reset their monsters every year or two, but that's a good thing.

skill issue

>>725033409
Literally impossible to die of age in this unless you really fuck around too much

>>725033423
Might and Magic 7 Ranger and Monk....my beloved

>>725033773
Monk is very good, it just takes a while to get going but it's a lategame monster. Knight still outdoes it but it's far from a useless class. Ranger yeah I have no idea what were they thinking with that class.

>>725033773
Monk is great once you finally reach GM dodge and unarmed. Knight is more consistently useful throughout the game though.

>>725031738
By the time you get blasters you should have completed like 99% of the content in the game, it's not a big deal that they outclass everything else at that point. They should have left them out of 7 though, and I'm glad they weren't in 8.

>>725005075 (OP)
See ya! ...Cheapskate

>>725034069
>I'm glad they weren't in 8
MM8 gives you "blasters" right after the starting area.

>>725033409
After 50 years you start losing HP/STR but start gaining INT/PER. So it's cool for wizards. After 100 you start losing it.
But it doesn't matter, because there are potions and a fountain of youth that will restore you to your normal age (ie you still age by gametime but that's negligeable, and it removes all magic aging, like from divine intervention and curses).

>>725014549
Yes, 2007 or thereabouts.
Now everyone outside of niche threads is a fucking casual.

>>725034532
I find it very annoying personally. They unironically argue for playing easy mode now.

Hey hey people

>>725036552
He's really losing his spark, re-visiting the games he already covered with weaker script than last time.

>>725015262
so that's where sluts picked this up

>>725005075 (OP)
Has anyone played the MAW mod for MM6? It looked kind of cool but I'm sort of afraid to play it with how much it seems to change the gameplay.

>>725021585
I think you get "difficult" dungeons because you explore too freely and end up in some mid-game or end-game dungeon. Let's say Temple of Baa in Castle Ironfist is quite difficult but doable, but Snergle Caverns located in the same area is brutally difficult for a lot of players. Some dungeons have enemies inflicting status effects, others have numerous powerful enemies, so even balanced party can have some problems.

>>725027056
It's not good, maybe even worse than IX. It seems that the game has really low budget, it shows.