Thread 725007428

I thought young gamers lover hard games like Dark souls?

>>725007460
Got one.

I think this case has to do with the technical issues instead of the difficulty. But yeah the games are insanely difficult.
The AI is not only the most blatant input reader in all of fighting games, but it also just blatantly cheats and ignores frame data. The console ports tone it down a tad but the arcade originals (which are the centrepiece of the collection) are basically unbeatable for 99% of people.

>>725007897
All these years of wanking old MK and nobody ever thought to rework AI to be more organic.
MK was all about versus mode because arcade was a quarter grabbing cesspool where cheesing was the only viable strategy.

>>725008367
The only way you could ever beat the MK2 arcade AI was to sweep them with the first attack and then immediately jump backwards. 9/10 times they will jump forward toward you the instant they stand up which leaves you half a second to uppercut before they hit the ground.

Just repeat that until you get to Kintaro at which point you're fucked. Try to jump kick him, and if it hits throw a projectile before he stands up. Jump away if he gets too close and counter with a leaping-back jump kick if he tries the flying stomp. For Shao Khan my best advice is to not put more quarters into the machine and walk away.

I don't know about programming AI for arcade-era games, could it have been fixed for this release even?
Releasing a collection of unbeatable games for 50 euros to zoomers whose only experience of a "hard game" is Dark Souls is really funny if you think about it

>>725007897
It has apparently really bad input lag, especially for online, audio problems and no private matches or lobbies. I saw a video that the community is worried about it because the standard machine for tournaments is PS5s (probably because sony owns evo)

if you buy a fighting game for single player you arent human.

>>725009917
>standard machine for tournaments is PS5s (probably because sony owns evo)
>he doesn't know
lmao

>>725009918
Shoving all eggs into the esport basket is the very reason the genre is on life support.

>>725010130
the genre is doing better than ever.

It was a lazy rom collection which WB in its current state should be on fucking point to scrape up any money they can together. But nope, we can't have sense around here.

>>725007897
Was waiting for an announcement for AI revamps, since training mode was added in. Its just pointless if private lobbies aren't ready yet and the AI wasn't changed. I only managed to beat UMK3 with Smoke by cheesing the ai with his uppercut teleport.

>>725009381
Only 2 and 3/U3/T, are bullshit.

They aren't unbeatable but they are bullshit.

>>725010751
It really should have deception, 9 and maybe mk vs dc. It just really isn't much.

>>725009918
>shartynigger lectures others on what it is to be human
Oh, I am LAFFIN'

>>725011256
I don't think i've ever seen someone beat arcade mk2 without absolutely cheesing it, unbeatable is a bit of an exaggeration but beating it while playing normally?

but MK was always garbage you literally paid for this

>>725008820
I only managed to beat genesis port by spamming spit with Reptile. Is this groundbreaking strategy not viable in the original version of the game?

>>725007428 (OP)
it was because the collection didn't work, not because of difficulty. MK's input reader is dodgy at best already, with all the lag offline as well as online why bother over free emulation efforts.
>>725011415
UMK3 is fun. it's jank and it's just weird until you get used to it. but i was very surprised with how fun it was https://youtu.be/okj0x-0YPqw

>>725011404
The problem with MK2 is that about half way through it comes the hardest game WHILE luring you in by making you think it's easier, then each character becomes a boss fight that's harder than motaro and shao kahn because they're reacting way faster than both of them with faster characters so they're shutting you down and doing things you can't like grabbing you out of the tip of your sweeps
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Each character also has its own cheese because what people call input reading is mostly anti cheese built into the AI because I noticed at the start of a round I can do anything and it won't react but if I do the same thing it'll be like 'fuck you, you're trying to cheese bitch.

It'll be something like
>DON'T JUMP IN, wait for them to jump, then uppercut, have block ready for the projectile they'll throw out
where that's not cheesing you're just playing a really hard fighting game