Thread 725019934

>>725019934 (OP)
Define flop. Is it flop like it’s a terrible game? Or did if flop by sales?
Those two can be independent from each each other. If it sold decently, Nintendo will keep on producing more flops.

I tired of these indians, their slopthreads.

>>725019934 (OP)
Posting in OP's cope thread to ask a real human being about the construct. Is it an android with BotW Link consciousness for the future or something or what?

>>725019934 (OP)
It'll probably do decently enough sales wise since it's Zelda and there aren't many other Switch 2 exclusives available yet, but it is bizarre that there's seemingly no hype for it. I only found out yesterday that it's even releasing so soon and even then it was only because Nintendo put out a countdown tweet about it.

>>725019934 (OP)
Game isnt even out yet.....

>>725019934 (OP)
As somebody who liked BoTW and ToTK I can not imagine why anybody would want to buy a game based on the furry fan fiction that is the ToTK lore.
Please make Hyrule Warriors 2, KT.

>>725019934 (OP)
ganon flopped on my cock

>>725022660
The robot is Fi. The opening cutscene is the korok in the depths and it finds a shard of the mastersword that got sent back with Zelda which fuses to a nearby construct

>>725022338
“Flop” in this case means the schizophrenic tendencies in op’s brain compelled him to make a worthless thread about a game that hasn’t even been released

>>725023729
wtf seriously?

>>725023895
>79 on metacritic
>not a flop
KEK

>>725024187
That's just par for the course with the Warriors games. They basically always score in the 70-80 range because they're too polarising a genre.
The highest scoring one on Metacritic as far as I can see is a Samurai Warriors game with 82.

>>725024187
The one negative review is from a reviewer/publication that doesn’t even like Dynasty Warriors anyway, so it’s an outlier.

>>725025195
>This review doesn't count because... I le say so

OP is desperate for any "win" after getting completely assblasted by the Nintendo yesterday

>>725025383
It literally, statistically, doesn’t count. Just like the 95 rating doesn’t count because it’s significantly outside of the bell curve. If you hate Dynasty Warriors then the review is useful for you. If you don’t hate the series, then it’s a review that should be ignored. Vice versa with the 95 rating.

>>725025492
>yesterday
*every day

>>725025492
That's 79 with the Nintendo bonus btw.... those are some rough legs indeed

>>725025383
>>725025195
A review by someone who hates the genre can be valuable since it can provides a different perspective on the game (if he were to like the game for example, it would mean that the game does something very different compared to its predecessors, which can both be a good and a bad thing), but it’s still ultimately an extremely biased review whose value can become inherently lesser than other more "fair" reviews. The same logic applies to reviewers that are big fan of the genre.

>>725019934 (OP)
I have nu-zelda fatigue

Please tell me this is the last fucking game in this setting

>>725025865
Should be, Aonuma said in interviews that TOTK was the last Zelda in this Hyrule and the next Zelda will be a new Hyrule (or a new setting in general). AoI is a spin-off so it didn’t count for that interview, but I'll doubt that they’ll make another spin-off game in that setting, so AoI should the final send off for that Hyrule.

>>725026041
Hmm. I remember the very first Zelda game was supposed to have a Future/Past split, with the Triforce being computer chips. Makes me think. Maybe this next go-around will involve trying to lure in the AC crowd?

>>725025792
I never see the point of reviewing a game if you already know you're not a fan of the genre period, to the point that even the greatest game in the series won't change your mind on that. Like that FIFA game where the first paragraph of the review was the reviewer iterating how much he doesn't like sports, or the guy who got roasted for going to a Guitar Hero press preview and wrote the review about how he only went for the free food and to network with other critics because he thinks playing plastic instruments is beneath him.

There's some genres which CAN win haters over. A more widely accessible fighting game can appeal to people scared off by the learning curve, someone who hates visual novel or Telltale style story games may stumble on a story that just happens to hook them for once. But I don't know how you could make any musou game that would appeal to someone who just doesn't get the appeal in the first place. If anything, if you did make one that would appeal to them, it would likely piss off the actual fans of the genre instead.

>>725023930
Yup. Fi is our new “Terrako” for this game.

>>725019934 (OP)
Good, hyrule warriors has run its course. Now tecmo kiwi will give us the long awaited Pokémon conquest 2.

>>725019934 (OP)
Good.

>79 even with the Warriors game penalty and the nintendo penalty
seems pretty amazing

>>725028465
>If anything, if you did make one that would appeal to them, it would likely piss off the actual fans of the genre instead.
didn't that happen to that rebooted dynasty warriors game

>>725029154
What Nintendo penalty, Nintendo games always get a massive bonus.

>>725029434
false

>>725028978
Is it consciously Fi, or is it just a piece of a shard powering it like a battery?

>>725029434
nintendo doesn't give out free shit or pay reviewers anymore
sony are the ones getting massive bonuses

>>725019934 (OP)
>putting Zelda and some brown skinned fantasy folx on the title

>>725025092
>>725025195
nobody in their right mind would ever play more than one Warriors game.
>not liking DW is an outlier
jej

>>725029570
Both. She doesn’t talk so far. The Korok is her companion for most of them story so far.

>>725030038
So how do we know it's consciously Fi if she doesn't talk?

After playing Origins it's so hard to come back to standard old musou.

>>725030350
Because Fi is part of the Master Sword. There is no soul of the Hero in the Master Sword. Fi so far, does her (or in this case him) own thing, despite the Korok complaining every single time.

>>725032414
I know it isn't Link, but this implies that every piece of the Master is Fi, and that her consciousness can split.

I despise this anime weeb tone and vibe that Zelda games have had for several games now. Its extremely cringe. They should go back to the tone and vibe of OOT and MM were it was more serious and normal and not cringey anime weeb crap.

>>725032539
nu-zelda has more mainstream appeal thoughbeit and that's all that really matters

All Nintendo had to do was Age of Calamity Switch 2 Edition.
Some DLC that adds Ganondorf, Tulin, the Construct and Astor.
Add some new stages that take place in the abyss and sky islands.
Add some new enemies and bosses.
Add a canon scenario that plays out the events of the Great Calamity as Astor.
New weapons.
New costumes.

>>725026898
>Abstergoshit
Isn’t Ubisoft rumored to be moving AWAY from that in the Black Flag remake to do more with Kenway and his crew?

>>725032539
Zelda has been anime inspired since Ocarina of Time. Link riding Epona was derived from Princess Mononoke.

>>725034401
So old anime is kino and new anime is shit. Stop the presses.

>>725023930
Also the Korok is the young Deku Tree.

>>725035218
He seems very greedy, always want a reward.

>>725034401
Old school Zelda was also inspired by Peter Pan, Lord of the Rings, Neverending Story, Dungeons & Dragons, and fucking Twin Peaks. It was made by people who had a much broader scope of fantasy storytelling culture than Aonuma/Fujibayashi who seem afraid of doing anything that isn’t faux Studio Ghibli in aesthetic or design.

>>725035218
The deku tree and the master sword going on a wacky adventure 10000 years in the past actually explains why there would be any connection between them at all.

>>725035573
What he's saying that OoT is where Japanese influence in Zelda really became noticable. Volvagia is an eastern dragon, not a western one, Sheik is a ninja. Even small details like Dampè being ugly because that's the Japanese stereotype of gravekeepers.
It definitely got stronger over time though, it's very noticable in BotW, that game's Kakariko village is very Jomon inspired. Though I still don't think it has an "anime weeb tone" as that one post said. I mostly play JRPGs, I know it when I see it.

>>725033760
Nintendo has dropped the ball since TotK. TotK itself was just glorified DLC and should have just stayed as the extension of BotW it was originally supposed to be instead of another whole game.

>>725035218
Apparently Koroks can become Deku Trees.

They retconned their own book for Botw, absolutely hysterical.

>>725023729
How do you know this when the game isn’t out yet? Are you bullshiting?

>>725036979
They blatantly retconned Calamity Ganon.

>>725037107
LOL, they literally do not care.

>>725019934 (OP)
>linking a Google search
What the hell is wrong with you OP?

>>725036979
>Koroks were Aonuma’s autistic ass needing to turn the Kokiri into wacky tree spirits that felt more Japanese
>In Wind Waker they went about planting sprouts that could potentially grow into the next Deku Trees
>They’re now just capable of being Deku Trees
What the fuck? If you put some dirt over Saria, could she just will herself to become a Deku Tree? This is stupid.

>>725037017
I am watching a let’s play right now.
https://www.youtube.com/live/rRQwge_yoJM?si=TjJQFOWmkGhlXeGw

>>725025092
It's depressing to me that musou games are even considered "polarizing" instead of just outright shit. These would have been utterly torn apart by reviews 20 years ago.

>>725037107
They can kind of get away with this retcon since ToTK starts with them finding out about the imprisonment war murals and Ganon's sealed corpse, meaning up to this point they didn't know the true history

I dont think he is the deku tree but i'm too lazy to download totk and look for this spot in the world.

>Fi is the real hero behind the legendary heroes across all the games that use the Master Sword, and is capable of splitting her consciousness between her shards
>Koroks can just become Deku Trees now

Fucking shit lore

>>725025195
That's not an outlier, they're just stating what most people actually think but for some reason are afraid to say out loud these days. Warriors games are ass.

>>725019934 (OP)
it flopped because i'm not currently sandwiched between rauru and mineru

>>725037724
>the incorrect story just happens to be the story from Ocarina of Time completely coincidentally
Riiiiight…

>>725038119
Yeah

>>725038119
>>725038295
>AoI is just OoT in another timeline.
Yup.

...So that was the imprisoning war..

>>725038472
That’s bullshit because the events of Skyward Sword are a (poorly constructed) closed loop, as this video explains: https://youtu.be/acv64b3p76w?si=2zZN5ngtfHAPQbUk

>>725025865
No way bro. They're gonna keep milking it

>>725037724
No, part of the problem is that BotW's new lore itself had stuff like Ganon attacking Hyrule many times, dying and being reborn, until it didn't reincarnate, becoming the Rage Incarnate Calamity Ganon, but that set up is completely impossible in TotK where this new Ganondorf has been underground all along since the ancient backstory.

>>725038646
Blame Ghirahim, not Hylia.

>>725038472
>OOT Alternate Ending
Twilight Princess is child timeline, retard.

>>725037798
That's where the Deku Tree is in BotW/TotK. If you're looking at Death Mountain from the Northwest of Hyrule Castle to the West of the Korok Forest this would be the landscape.

>>725037724
>nobody knew Ganondorf was sealed under the castle
History is such a big part of BOTW and yet it feels like no one is actually recording history.

>>725038826
Yes. I know.

Pre-ordered last night to kill time until Metroid.

>>725019934 (OP)
I wish, I don't want them to spend any more dev time and budget on this shit.

>>725038826
Zelda creates a new timeline where Link never met her as a child. Then Link then meets Zelda again, "for the first time", where he explains everything to child Zelda.

>>725038776
I always assumed that the imprisoned that you fight in the present was just a lingering remnant of Demise that was actually going after the Master Sword hidden away in the temple that had Demise’s consciousness sealed inside it.

>>725038749
Ganon's essence leaking out and attacking Hyrule repeatedly still works here. Calamity Ganon leaked out even though Ganondorf's body was still being sealed underground. It actually makes sense that the Calamity that happened 100 years before BotW would be the largest in recorded history since Rauru's sealing power was shown to have weakened enough for Ganondorf to break free in TotK. Thematically it all works.

>store demo instead of eshop demo
>tfw ausfag and can't remember the last time I saw a demo kiosk for games
Shit sucks.

>>725039104
That’s the child timeline. It’s not an “alternate ending” like this retarded infographic implies it is. OoT > MM > TP is the clearest fucking throughline in the games. It is OOT’s ending’s as it is shown to you in game.

>bosses are part of the demon king and basically different mummified Ganondorfs
>one of them is just a flamboyantly gay Ganondorf wearing bright red energy pants that gets mad when you scratched his perfect body

>>725039183
No, the problem is that BotW a few times mentions Ganon/Ganondorf trying to take over Hyrule and failing before Calamity Ganon. (Clearly referring to the original Ganondorf which started with OoT) None of that can happen in TotK since this “new” one pretends to be nice, turns out evil, fails and then gets sealed up to the present. Here is a quote directly from BotW's script regarding Ganon being reborn many times and Calamity Ganon being the incarnation of his rage, having given up on a corporeal form.

>>725039349
>Ganon... Ganon was born out of a dark past.
>He is a pure embodiment of the ancient evil that is reborn time and time again...

Note these quotes reference the Rebirth cycle as happening -before- Calamity Ganon.

>>725039096
>I don't want them to spend any more dev time
Who? Koei Tecmo?

>>725039305
Let me try to explain, using your terminology then:
>Link in OoT, then travels to both Child (Adult) and Adult (Adult) timeline through the entire game.
>Then Zelda after Link and the Sages sealed Ganon, she sends Link to the Child (Alternate) timeline.
Does that make sense now?

No Twinrova bossfight, not even a mention of the names Koume and Katake happened...
just "gerudo assasins" that are barely different gerudo mobs
How do you fuck this up so bad?

>>725038749
>>725039349
>>725039439
No it doesn't. For that universe the only thing that has ever been there has been Calamity Ganon. The Gerudo just mention that previous Gerudo kings have had shameful pasts. Yes it's a nod to previous games, but it's just that: a nod. For all intents and purposes the BotW/TotK timeline is it's own thing. Maybe it's linked to Skyward Sword but that's about it.


There having been specifically a Ganondorf prior is NEVER directly stated.

It's you making your headcanon and assumptions to actual in game canon and then acting all confused when they don't match.

>>725037268
They used to: https://youtu.be/aQzORdnaYKs?si=pgFMzhoKY2BJorff

>>725037107
It all goes back to Fujibiyashi being a piece of shit that couldn't give a single shit about story....being in CHARGE of the series's lore since SS.

Medieval fantasy:
LTTP
OOT
MM

Cringey Anime weeb crap:
Skyward Sword
BOTW
TOTK

I wont explain myself. You should just be able to understand what I mean and why I mean it.

>>725039795
>It's you making your headcanon and assumptions to actual in game canon
Nice projection, did you even READ the 'Creating a Champion' book? Stop making excuses for a shit story that Nintendo didn’t even write themselves.

>>725039349
Ganondorf tried to take over Hyrule in TotK. It doesn't really matter if he started out pretending to be nice if his major actions were killing the queen and invading Hyrule with an army of monsters. His essence continued to resurface after the Imprisoning War. That's how we have a Calamity Ganon in BotW even though his body is sealed underground.
>>725039501
The ancient evil in the Wilds timeline could be Ganondorf pre-imprisonment or the male Gerudo curse dating back before the time of Hyrule. Rauru already doesn't trust Ganondorf pre-imprisonment so the male Gerudo curse might have already been a thing at that time. I'm not seeing how any of this doesn't fit together thematically or in the plot that was provided by either game. It seems to just be friction between the Zelda lore "experts" who obsess over what color underwear the Hero of Time wears in the various split timelines than lore breaking retcons. BotW and TotK were purposefully vague in their storytelling since piecing together memories into a larger picture was the point.

>>725039690
Lol are you serious?
This is bad

Botw and Totk take place in the Sacred Realm. Now every issue you have with the timeline and lore inconsistencies has been explained away.

>>725039650
>your terminology
Not my terminology. Majora’s Mask and Twilight Princess ARE called the child timeline branch. Nintendo uses refers to them as such in the official timeline.
>Adult Timeline
>Child Timeline
>Hero Fails Timeline
Those are the three branches from OoT. This has been stated canon for like 15 years now.

>>725022901
Its featured all over the E-shop and they have sent my ass like 4 maybe 5 emails this last month shilling it.

>>725037798
This looks a lot like the tree in skyward sword

>>725039805
That and Aonuma:

>put Koizumi, the guy who loves stories, in charge of mario
>put Aonuma, the guy who just wants to run and jump in charge of zelda
>dedicate the rest of your career to pikmin
Miyamoto was truly a “genius”.

>MM team has like a year or so and a low budget to get out an OoT sequel
>"SCREW YOU KOIZUMI HOW DARE YOU MAKE UNIQUE WEIRD THING AND THINK OUTSIDE BOX WITH EXTREMELY STRICT DEVELOPMENT TIME AND MONEY NEVER TOUCH ZELDA AGAIN"
> Aonuma was told "no" for the extremely cartoony art style he wanted for WW, he was a dick and snuck it in anyway behind Miyamoto's back until it couldn't be undone, turned out a Zelda game with a troubled development that failed to generate good sales, and proceeded to jam this same artstyle down people's throats for a heckton of games.
>"yes this is the guy that should be in charge of the series"
Miyamoto putting Aonuma in charge of the Zelda series is probably the worst thing he's done in the long run for Nintendo.

>>725039935
>BotW and TotK were purposefully vague in their storytelling since piecing together memories into a larger picture was the point.
TotK doesn’t even properly connect with BotW, stop coping. Characters not recognizing you is a continuity issue
The light dragon not being around in the first game is a continuity issue
The fact that nobody in the first game mentions ganondorf or the sacred stones despite that obviously being relevant to "ganon" is a continuity issue
The fact that all the sheikah shit is just gone without a trace is a continuity issue.
https://youtu.be/jdUXa6lV8A8?si=MT8pD2NDza0pXum9

>>725040101
Yeah he made the wrong choice for sure. No one wants a gameplay focus in Zelda or themed set pieces in Mario. What failures. Nintendo fire these men.

>>725040101
>Directed Mario Galaxy
you say that like it's a good thing

>>725040007
>Using Hyrule Historia.
Yeah, that is older lore, and requires updates now since EoW, BotW, TotK, and AoI haven’t been added.

NDS COPE THREAD

>>725019934 (OP)
>another hallucination thread.

>>725040346
I’m not saying Koizumi should never be involved with Mario, things like Mario Odyssey and the Mario RPGs can be good. Also just how much was Aonuma involved with BotW? Regardless, then he made TotK which shat on everything that BotW set up. Aonuma doesn’t have the right mindset for Zelda, and TotK shows that most of all.

WHY BOTHER PUTTING KOUME AND KATAKE IN THE GAME AND PROCEED TO DO NOTHING WITH THEM???

>>725040354
Yes it was good, cope and seethe.

>>725040346
Never said that Koizumi being involved with Mario is bad, just that he should have been the one in charge of the series: https://youtu.be/gWpeqXAOCX0?si=PrFuynn27KXtv0mz

I played HWDE for like 4 months to 100% it and now I'm permanently burnt out of musou games

>>725040702
*Zelda series

>>725019934 (OP)
Sadly, it's classical "people played HW1 because it was a Zelda game" and they showed little interest in Musou at large. People who LIKED the particular blend have probably played AoC and AoI.

>>725039935
Keep coping Nintendo shill.

>>725040343
Some characters not recognizing you is a result of them being able to be missed in BotW. A lot of them needed introductions in TotK for people who missed them. All the important characters recognized you.
The Light Dragon flew much higher in the sky than the other dragons since her only purpose was to protect the Master Sword until the time Ganondorf resurfaced and the Zonai machines were back up and running.
Ganondorf and the secret stones were from 10,000 years before the current era. At best only the royal family knew about the lower crypts and Rauru's seal but they were dealing with protecting the kingdom from a rampaging pig demon that congealed out of Ganondorf's pissed off essence.
Sheikah shit disappearing was a gameplay concern. It was one of the only really sloppy elements of TotK but I understand them wanting to keep the focus on Zonai stuff. Keeping the Sheikah shrines around would have cluttered the map too much.
I don't care what some brownoid says about a topic people care far too much about.

>>725040603
>Worst movement of any 3d mario
>gravity gimmick wears off quickly and it just ends up being annoying
>Linear levels that are far too easy. Objectives are often boring "collect the 5 thingies on this small planet"
>Spend way too much time watching Mario autistically fly out from star launchers
>Most powerups are slow and boring
Mario Galaxy is a game that jingles keys in front of you and that's it. There's no depth to the gameplay or the level design beyond.

>>725040758
actual madman.

>>725040383
Nothing in those games makes Majora’s Mask and Twilight Princess take place in a new hitherto undiscussed timeline you blithering retard.

>Link is allowed to live his childhood
>Majora’s Mask happens
>Link returns to Hyrule becomes a hero a presumably has a family
>Not known as the great Hero of Time who slew Ganondorf though because it didn’t happen
>Revenant Hero’s Shade who never passed on his swordsmanship teaches his descendant upon Ganondorf’s return
That’s it. That’s very fucking starting base of the child timeline branch you dumbshit.

Is this game still doing the "nothing ever happens on the map unless you personally are there to see it happen"? because that shit ruined Age of Calamity for me, like Dynasty warriors is fun when its hectic and shits going on all over the map, but when gates can't be taken and generals can't die unless you are personally involved that sucks all the fun out of it.

How do people play musou shit for more than an hour? Every single mission is the same, mash attack on 100 generic mooks in one of the 3 maps, and there are hundreds of missions.

>>725037649

Dynasty Warriors 5 has a 69 on metacritic so you're not completely wrong.

Zelda cross-canon obsession is mental illness. Unless a game is stated to be connected to another game's timeline trying to spider web them all together is retarded.

Wild era sucks shit right out of an asshole and didn't need a fourth game.
We should have just gotten a second fanservice Hyrule Warriors like the first.
No lore autism, just pure gameplay and a huge variety on the roster.

>>725040874
>t. schizophrenic copetard

>>725040875
>I don't care what some brownoid says about a topic people care far too much about.
And there’s the ad hominem, I’m white, dude. But keep coping.
>imagine believing there was some grand keikaku for this lazy bullshit
>when we know TotK was outsourced so that Nintendo could focus everything on the building system

>The Light Dragon flew much higher in the sky than the other dragons since her only purpose was to protect the Master Sword until the time Ganondorf resurfaced and the Zonai machines were back up and running.
That shouldn’t have been able to make her invisible, same with all the sky islands at different altitudes that suddenly appeared out of nowhere, also the Deku Tree should have been able to sense that there were two master swords during BotW.

>>725041080
>tranime

>>725022949
Zelda bros... Our game didn't sell a single copy....

>>725025092
Let's be real. Origins is basically the first DW game that may be palatable to your average game, and even that is possibly a big ask.

>>725040896
This is gaslighting, also the trial levels and Luigi’s purple coins would like a word with you on Mario Galaxy being “too easy”.

>>725041205
Literally zero copies....we flopped harder than concord....

>>725041176
You keep linking some brown fag's videos. I'm not watching them.
And no, I don't think there some grand narrative plan. I'm saying what was added onto BotW in TotK fits fine unless you filled in the gaps yourself and TotK doesn't fit with your headcanon.

look I only hope this game does mineru justice and we get more mineru art, don't care about anything else

>>725041404
SLLSFHM

The Linkbot isn't actually Link himself, but a construct powered by a piece of the broken Master Sword

>>725039104
>Zelda creates a new timeline where Link never met her as a child.
>>725039305
>>725039650
>>725040940
Majora's Mask shows the Link and Zelda still became friends in the Child Timeline

>>725041291
Those are not challenging. If you think so you are ass. Besides, even if they were good that doesn't change the fact that 90% of the game is boring nonsense that plays the game for you

>>725041484
>even the construct of notLink is a manlet

humiliation ritual

>>725040875
>Some characters not recognizing you is a result of them being able to be missed in BotW. A lot of them needed introductions in TotK for people who missed them. All the important characters recognized you.
Explain Tarry Town and Hateno Village then, the former needed Link involved with every single character in Tarry Town to have it built, and Hateno Village has Zelda literally living in Link’s house that Link had to have Hudson construction work with, all the villagers in Hateno village should know who Link is, same with the Zora’s who knew Link since BotW’s past.

>>725041484
so is kinda Fi?

>>725038906

They did record it. On the murals. They just lost them. Ten thousand years is a long fucking time.

>>725041390
You are just a racist trying to discredit people just because of their skin colour, all you have done is discredit yourself and are coping and seething.

Saw all the cutscenes.

Knight Construct isn't Fi, he's an imprint of Link from his bond with the Master Sword. Don't ask me how the fuck that works, but he's definitely not Fi. This is just the game's way of giving you a playable Link without breaking continuity.

Calamo is indeed the Great Deku Tree, and very likely the same one we meet in BotW/TotK. That would mean for sure that the Wild era is either a refounding or a different timeline altogether, there's virtually no way the other Zelda games occurred between AoI and BotW at this point.

>>725041673
Apparently it is just Fi. Like, completely, not just a battery.

>>725041552
Okay did YOU ever play Mario Galaxy, Mr. Contrarian?

So.. what's the final roster then?
Is it 28 characters? Are 12 of them literal fucking nobodies with boring generic like movesets?

>>725024187
That's literally the exact same score as the other Hyrule Warriors games

>>725041095
>Unless a game is stated to be connected to another game's timeline trying to spider web them all together is retarded.
The only games that don't easily slot in somewhere are the Oracles games and BotW/ToTk, which are very intentionally ambiguous.

>>725041756
Surprisingly I'm ok with this. Mostly because fuck yeah, refounding or a different timeline is better than the alternative.

>>725041694
And yet OoT was even further back than that and yet things like Ruto and the other sages were mentioned and used as names for the divine beasts, not to mention Calamity Ganon was supposed to be OoT Ganondorf until TotK retconned that.

>>725041615
Most people didn't do the Tarrey Town sidequest.
>>725041696
Yes I'm racist but that doesn't make your arguments any more compelling. It's obvious I hit the nail on the head. Zelda lore autists tried way too hard to write their own headcanon around BotW to make it work in the greater "canon" (that's retarded by the way and is the basis of the worst game in the series because it tried to appeal to you retards) and when TotK came out and wasn't exactly what you wanted you sperged about it.

>>725041673
The shard makes the Fi noise in the opening cutscene to get the Korok to notice it and put it in the robot.

>>725041759
i'm fine with that.

>>725019934 (OP)
I'm saving it as a xmas gift

>>725041893
>Most people didn't do the Tarrey Town sidequest.
i do not buy that

>>725041756
Wait, everyone else is saying it's Fi though.

>>725022338
gamespot gave it a 7
games not out yet so the real score is unknow but safe to assume at best its mid

>>725040940
>>725041531
Buddy? We’re only arguing about terminology. Again >>725039650

>>725042017
They gave Three Hopes a 7 as well and that game was great.

>>725041765
Yes? Obviously I have. I've played it 3 times I think? It's the 3D Mario game I go back to the least because every time I play through it I remember how boring it actually is.

>>725041978
because they’re autistic retards

>>725041893
>Most people didn't do the Tarrey Town sidequest.
Proof? And regardless, the fact that Tarry Town exists at all in TotK requires Link to have been involved and talked to all the characters that live there now.
But keep making excuses for Nintendo being hacks and trying too hard to make the game easy to understand to people that didn't play BotW.

It worked great for OOT > MM > TP to be direct sequels that didn't outright throw everything put of the window and it's the strongest of their stories ever so why WHY did they fuck up this canon story so bad? In fact leaving the BOTW canon intact WOULD HAVE attracted new users

New ppl getting into TOTK would read all the bits and bobs of actual BOTW story would've immediately rushed to get the other game to know the origins of the new sages and stuff. Making the zonai the center of the narrative actually hurts the mystery that they were in BOTW

Nintendo is getting a little too comfortable with using time travel shenanigans to escape actually telling a compelling multi-chapter story and it's becoming boring rather than intriguing or surprising. And I don't even think they do it for fanservice of the theorizers.

>>725019934 (OP)
Good. With any luck this will be the last we see of the BOTW world. God knows I'm sick to death of Zelda and her eyebrows.

>>725042102
Fun game, shit writing though

Uhhh why is this seemingly bait thread doing numbers?

>>725041756
That would explain why the Deku Tree in BotW is watching over the sword.

He and the sword were best buds back in the day. Kinda kino.

>>725042075
yeah. Why are you guys arguing terminology over a timeline split that doesn't actually exist?
>>725039104
>Zelda creates a new timeline where Link never met her as a child.
Is not something that happens in the Child or Adult timelines because Link and Zelda always meet and become friends. There's an entire flashback cutscene in MM of Zelda teaching link the Song of Time.

>>725042319
repurposed into a discussion thread

>>725042319
This isn't a bait thread anymore. It's a thread about the failings of modern Zelda and how fucked it is from a conceptual standpoint

>>725042358
See >>725036979

>>725041972

You need 110 wood and a bunch of npcs from all over the place and you can't even start Tarry Town until you build your own house which is its own ordeal. I absolutely buy that not many people did it.

>>725042462
You mean wood that you can easily get from chopping up trees that are all over the place?

>>725042449
op got a new cope

>>725041972
>>725042231
It's a grindy easily missable sidequest that requires you to gather tons of wood and rupees. The developers clearly understood that the best way to implement it would be a middle ground where the rewards were present in the world but players weren't expected to have done the associated quest to know how they got there.

>>725041759
There is not a single mention of fi in this game, only her "theme", which is now just the general master sword theme

>>725019934 (OP)
how can it fail, there's literally no other exclusives.

>>725042530

Yes, the wood that you have to go out of your way to destroy your weapons chopping down so no one does it. That wood.

>>725042560
Says the guy who keeps acting like there isn’t a backlash against TotK.

>>725039885
Funny how the cringey anime weeb crap vastly landslides the "Medieval fantasy" games.

lore autists need to learn their place and that’s in the trash

>>725042594
>The developers clearly understood that the best way to implement it would be a middle ground where the rewards were present in the world but players weren't expected to have done the associated quest to know how they got there.
That’s a funny way of saying “lazy writing that was written by an outsourced studio that made mobile apps”

Third playable Goron is a miner named Braton with a club and brass knuckles

>>725042660
>jewtube grifters
that’s nice but you lost and got raped

>>725042660
Terrible legs on those videos.

>>725039885
>MM
>Not anime
It's the only zelda game where link got smothered in breasts like it was a harem show

I'm just waiting for Kirby Air Riders and Metroid Prime 4 at this point. The Duskbloods ans FE: Fortune's Weave both also look cool.

>It's Fi!
>It's not Fi!

God damn, which is it?!

>>725042645
who the fuck doesn't bomb trees

>>725042462
I trust the developers' judgment on this one. If the sequel expected you to not know who these people were there's a good chance they were either expected to be missed by most players.
>>725042758
TotK has the best arc for Zelda in any game in the franchise so those ghost writers did a hell of a job.

>>725042786
Racism isn’t going to make you win the argument, asshole.

It doesn't even come out til tomorrow....

>>725042765
Why does no fucking character dual wield anything cool in this game?
Why are there FOUR gorons using one handed weapons?

>>725042865

Casualfags, who make up the majority of BotW/TotK players.

>>725042881
Yeah, but my facts and logic I used to rape you will

>>725042878
You are a desperate contrarian and tendie.

who is he?

Uh oh!

TotK melty in the thread.

>>725033760
It's not specifically up to Nintendo to update AoC for the switch 2 but I made up a rumor that a 60fps patch might come as a shadowdrop when AoI comes out.

>>725042878
>TotK has the best arc for Zelda in any game in the franchise so those ghost writers did a hell of a job.
It’s literally BotW again but a longer period of time

>>725042979
fi
>>725041484
>>725041673
>>725041759

>>725042956
Whatever you tell yourself.

>>725042979
A living memory of the master swords wieder.

I liked hyrule warriors.
I do not give a rat's ass about BOTW lore or setting so I don't care about the two that are only about BOTW's world.

>>725042878
Shut up faggot

>>725042660
TotK was already after social media backlash grifting had taken root. The Joseph Anderson "it's no masterpiece" strategy had already proven to be a well sloptubers could go back to any time a critically acclaimed game came out. It's unironically impossible to talk about Nintendo games without some kind of secondary backlash latching onto it.

>>725042361
Link (post-OoT) meets Zelda “for the first time” again, you see it that she is surprised to see him in her personal garden like the first time. He has the Triforce of Courage now, and he explains everything to Zelda. That then leads to MM and then later on TP. Here Link never needs to get the Goron’s Ruby and Zora’s Sapphire. Ganondorf now has to make war with the Kingdom, since some brat somehow knew is plans.

>>725043061
>>725043059
Fuck, someone post proof.

>>725042645
Never used an ax?

>>725043060
>posting my jak folder will surely win!!!
THE RAPED

>journos sees a musou
>"LE REPEPTITIVE"
>7/10
Musous are automatic 7/10s because of how reviewers work.

>>725037107
I thought calamity ganon was always just the "miasma" forming out of Ganondorfs corpse that had always been sealed under hyrule castle in BOTY and "killing" it at the end of that game actually nerfed ganondorf in TotK to the point we could even damage him in the first place. We basically fought his 'soul" in the first game and his physical body in the 2nd.

>>725043067
>Hi! I'm anon, here are my basic bitch opinions!

>>725043080
Those aren't sloptubers. Totk really was just disappointing.

>>725043132
Here:
https://youtu.be/ChtzmyktMXc?si=D_-EihP6gC1CmkCk

>>725019934 (OP)
>warriors game
>flopped
so, nothing new
the worst part is that they put canon story into this game, a fucking spin-off, instead of the actual game, where it was needed the most

>>725043080
Or maybe people generally didn’t like the retconny story and bloated empty world. But keep thinking that everyone that disagrees with you is a “grifter” or doing a bit and being genuine.

>>725043036
Zelda's sacrifice to ensure the Master Sword could be delivered to Link was more impactful than her sealing Calamity Ganon. Retrieving the Master Sword is one of the all time great moments in the franchise.

>>725043061
>>725043059
You know I always wanted a full sword mode for fi like girahim had and this is the closest thing to that.

>>725043198
That’s headcanon.

>>725043234
>those aren’t sloptubers
LOL
LMFAO

>>725043257
>MUH HECKING LOREARINO RETCONARINO
seethe and dilate tranny

>>725043290
You mean the master sword that shouldn’t have even gotten broken in the first place? Nintendo threw decades of lore out the window because it was established many times that the power of the sword is that it cannot be touched by anything evil. That is why it was so deadly as it's repelling force allowed it to cut through any monster. So the notion of Malice being able to not only touch the blade but even break it is fundamentally flawed writing.

I wanted a co-op game where Link and Zelda were together the whole game and in love like everyone thought BotW 2 was going to be, not a retread of BotW with bullshit writing.

>>725043221
But basic bitches are the ones who like botw, checkmate.

>>725043318
Typically when we say sloptubers we mean people who make a large amount of videos very quickly putting minimum effort and research into each one. Y'know, the people conatantly posting about topical internet drama or news stories. Full length game reviews or video essays are not like that.

>>725043290
>the music cue played and told me how I should feel about this point in the narrative

>>725043316
I mean, is it? It seems pretty logical to me that calamity ganon in the first game was just some miasmic projection of the real ganondorf under the castle.

>>725043535
No, that would be TotK.

>>725043061
you know there's a weird oddity to that. botw link never had that moveset due to the whole shine of resurrections but age of calamity link did. which timeline are we in exactly?

>>725043625
Are they not the same?

>>725043237
How is this proof about Fi?

>>725043470
>MUH LORE
kwab

>>725043607
Which everyone thought was going to be post-Twilight Princess Ganondorf judging by the first trailer for BotW2 (which would have made way more sense and not contradict everything that was said about Calamity Ganon, unlike the “new” Ganondorf)

>>725041673
>>725041759
I don't think it's Fi, remember how in SS she mentions that the sword records the spirit of the hero. I think it's literally being powered by the imprints made by the various links that used it throughout history

>>725036979
>They retconned their own book for Botw
the fuck are you talking about

>>725043579
I don’t care what mental gymnastics you need to pull to convince yourself that you aren’t watching sloptubers

>>725019934 (OP)
Didn't this game come out already?

where can i see the cutscenes?

>>725043682
>just turn your brain off, bro
The generation raised on Michael Bay has done irreparable damage to pop culture.

>>725043234
Come on now. These are textbook "it's no masterpiece" sloptuber thumbnails. Take a critically acclaimed product from a company with a large hatedom, plaster "it's a bad game? disappointment? the TRUTH" on your thumbnail, and rake in those pennies in ad revenue.

>>725043551
>the loretranny final cope
you already lost

>>725043682
>stop enjoying things on a deeper level
>JUST CONSOOM
You one of them Jeet shills they hire on cheap, boy?

>>725043837
>loretards think they’re smart
OHNONONO NONO ONONO
AHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHA

>>725043858
>I have no arguments, so I am just going to resort to ad hominem and transphobia. (I’m not even trans)

>>725043839
It's no masterpiece

yup we have a full on autistic loretranny meltdown in full effect

>>725041756
Anyone with at least half a brain knew there were no games between TotK past and BotW

>>725043945
You are really huffing that copium aren’t you?

>>725043674
Probably the fact that Fi is literally the master sword and it makes the exact same Fi noise when attracting the Korok that the master sword made it botw when Link pulled it out and the sword is capable of talking which is how Zelda learned what she needed to do when everything was fucked in botw.

>>725044005
Whatever you tell yourself in your basement.

>n-no u huffing c-copium
autism moment

>>725019934 (OP)
90% characters are brown.

I don't want to play in brown games

That's all.

>>725043636
I think that's just typical Warriors getting crazy with character fighting styles.

We literally have Zelda throwing hands with Lynels.

>literal redditor
yup, I’ll take that as another win
GGz

>>725043198
All that is correct except the whole "killing the miasma nerfed the real Ganondorf"

N-NO U

>>725043470
It's never said in BotW or TotK that the Master Sword is completely infallible. It's a magical goddess sword that has the power to banish darkness when wielded by a true hero. I mean hell, even in gameplay the Master Sword needs to recharge if you use it too much. If there was ever a timeline where the Master Sword can be broken by the greatest evil known to man it's the timeline with games that have weapon durability. No, Samus doesn't get to keep all of her upgrades in the sequel.

>>725044159
https://www.cbr.com/zelda-totk-contradicts-botw/

>>725022901
Already interested in Air Riders and Prime 4. May check this out down the line, but not rushing out for it.

>725044294
>loretism
you’re already dead nigger

>>725044224
>We literally have Zelda throwing hands with Lynels.

that's not unusual for post botw zelda who deleted the calamity.

>>725044292
>It's never said in BotW or TotK that the Master Sword is completely infallible.
I’m talking about the whole series’ lore, not just BotW and TotK (the latter of which tries to shit on the series’ continuity and especially BotW)

>>725044112
That is not proof, just your headcanon. Fi's theme is also considered to be the literal sword's as well

Anyone buck broken by TotK lore is like a spiteful ex girlfriend who can't let go and has to let everyone know how much it ruined their life.

>>725044292
>It's never said in BotW or TotK that the Master Sword is completely infallible
It is in ALttP which was said shown to be able to take on a Ganon with the complete Triforce, same with the non-canon HW1, how could TotK ganondorf with just a mere secret stone break the master sword when not even a Ganondorf with the complete Triforce do that?

>>725044403
>but how does the Wind Fish fit into all this?
>this game with its own timeline that doesn't fit anywhere into my grand chronology has to have the Wind Fish in it somewhere

How many hours until the game unlocks?
And is the release global or will the Japanese and Australians get it before the rest of the world?

>>725044514
>t. Noob who had TotK as their first Zelda game and has no context.

>>725044558
Because TotK and ALttP aren't the same game. The writers make no attempt to connect them.

>Totk have a shit story
>The game is basically tetelling this same shit story
>Now retconning some important plot points like Sonia dying
Will not buy

>>725044568
>this game with its own timeline that doesn't fit anywhere into my grand chronology has to have the Wind Fish in it somewhere
Oh fuck off, then why is Nintendo so insistent on shoving shit from the previous games into BotW lore?
BotW has divine beasts named after Ocarina of Time sages, literal artifacts from those eras, entire verses dedicated to heroes of old, etc. If you want a separate timeline, then make it a separate timeline instead of trying to sit on two chairs at the same time.
Instead we got two games that make zero sense in relation to each other. You are Nintendo bootlickers. Screw you and screw Aonuma.

>>725044558
>It is in ALttP which was said shown to be able to take on a Ganon with the complete Triforce

To be fair, the sword only stuned him. He was killed by the Silver Arrows.

>>725044663
It’s supposed to be a direct sequel to BotW though, and they still made no real attempt to properly connect even those two.

>>725044669
But she does die in Age of Imprisonment.

>>725044727
So did the original LoZ on the NES, before the Master Sword was even introduced.
Okay but there is still HW1.

>>725044624
I've been playing Zelda since SNES, don't mock me, child.

>>725044709
>then why is Nintendo so insistent on shoving shit from the previous games into BotW lore?
Because it's a franchise built on iconography. You spergs seem to believe this means everything needs to be connected. BotW was clearly written to be a clean break from the canon wank while implementing things people like from other games with a new spin. We don't need a biology lesson on why the Rito have feathers now. They have feathers now because they're not the same Rito as the ones in WW.

Imagine caring about Zelda lore when even the creators tell you it’s not that serious, I’d probably become schizophrenic too

Dud anyone play the demo at target or best buy or whatever?

>Proof that Fi is the master sword
>The master sword has a spirit that talks to Zelda multiple times
>Fi's theme plays during scenes with the master sword
>when the master sword beeps it is the exact same noise Fi made
>Fi literally turns into the master sword

>proof that Fi is not the master sword
>trust me bro

>spin-off musou
I sleep
>DW3 Remastered
Real shit?

>>725044881
Even in the canon of the relevant game: Light Arrows are what kill Calamity Ganon in BotW, not the Master Sword.

>>725044919
then why do they add lore to zelda, if it's not that "serious"?

>>725045009
Don't argue with idiots.

It's like punching a brick wall, nothing will change.

>>725045134
Im sorry but there’s nothing I can do say that will cure your autism, you’re cursed

>>725041205
Bro, your preorders???

>>725045074
Then why the fuck didn’t they just use light arrows in TotK? Heck, where is the Master Sword in TotK’s past/Age of Imprisonment?

>errmmm jeeez why do you even CARE?
why do they always do this?

>>725045009
It's not-not fi

>>725045204
>>725045134
>>725044919
Keep making excuses for the creators being baiting hacks, and for using the worst Zelda argument: https://youtu.be/aQzORdnaYKs?si=zqnx8JwcTPfo1d12

>>725045134
So that two-faced fanboy niggers can suck their balls and spread their wallets for the “genius storytelling” and then immediately turn around to shout down anyone who criticizes it with an appeal to triviality

>caring
grim

>>725044585
Lol, people in japan and australia have been able to play it for 6-8 hours now

>>725045241
Cognitive dissonance

>>725045134
The game that was obsessed with connecting the lore was Skyward Sword. Skyward Sword was terrible. It was developed from the standpoint of trying to give fans what they said they wanted which was free sword movement and LORE. It was and continues to be off-putting to most fans which is why it didn't do very well while BotW was and continues to be a crowd pleaser. Lore for the sake of autism is not compelling. Lore that tells a story relevant to a good game is appreciated. You people take this far too seriously.

>>725045241
because caring about things like Zelda lore (when every game is standalone and resets the lore) is silly?

>>725037532
Oh to plant Saria on the ground and giving her endless loads of tasty nutrients...

>>725045314
>making excuses
It’s called living in the real world and not having autism

>>725044514
The only people I’ve seen who were mad about the lore were literal homosexual faggots who are in love with GanonDorf and were mad he was evil again like>>725039439

>>725045405
OPEN WIDE BITCH

>how dare you care about a series youve been playing for 20+ years

if the story is shit, its shit, i can complain if i want to.

Is this better than the last Dynasty Warriors game that was hyped up a few months ago?

>>725037532
maybe they degraded over time and couldnt turn into a deku tree

>>725045587
No, you want an audience for your cry sessions.

>loretranny autism babble
may such cases

>>725045214
Because the narrative arc of the game was Zelda's sacrifice to recreate a more powerful Master Sword. Imagine not being able to understand basic storytelling cues such as the emotional crescendo being Link pulling the newly reforged Master Sword out of Light Dragon's forehead followed by the conflict's climax ending with the Master Sword being thrust into the Darkness Dragon's forehead to slay it. I know there's no 2deep4me lore describing what makes dragon foreheads so important but try to give it a chance. You might like it in the moment.

>>725045214
Only the tip that broke off and hit Ganondorf got sent back with Zelda which is what controls the robot. The rest of the sword doesn't get teleported back until later when Link sends it back. But the point where the sword is sent back in time is after Ganondorf is imprisoned. Which is when Zelda realizes she needs to turn into a dragon so she can get back to the future with the sword.

>>725045394
Or you are just a Nintendo bot who defends capitalism and corporate greed.
>>725045397
Not what happens, OoT, WW and TP would like to have a word with you.
>>725045419
>Ableism makes me right!
>>725045454
You guys have no real argument and resort to bigoted insults.
>>725045719
You want an audience for your troll sessions.

>>725045757
All these words for: JUST TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF, BRO

>abelism makes me right
yes

>>725045763
No, I mean the Master Sword of THAT time period that is still intact.

Who cares?

>>725045719
you are a retard

>>725045792
Falseflag Bait

>>725045792
Oh, you're a communist.

That explains a lot.

>>725045812
If you can't enjoy a story for what it presents instead of what it doesn't you have too much baggage for anyone to take your analysis seriously.

>>725045893
That is why people hate tendies nowadays.

>DURR JUST TURN YOU BWAIN OFF BWO HURR
loretards pretending they’re intelligent and not just obsessed autists

>>725045942
And you’re a chud.

>>725045889
Probably somewhere in some sky islands after the last apocalypse since it turns out that 10000 years ago was still a post apocalyptic future.

>>725045956
TotK is a direct sequel. It is not afforded that luxury.

>>725045394
>>725046000
>>725045956
Cope and seethe: https://youtu.be/4unKwPQMoOA?si=IGH8pmgVXQvfDKg9

https://youtu.be/K6OBcQDQ8YY?si=3mWj4UlHfStLMJYS

>>725046038
Guilty as charged, lol.

>>725046120
You're not judging it for what it supposedly contradicts from BotW. You were talking about how the Master Sword works in ALttP.

>>725045963
I'm not reading that all shit, nigger please.

Calamo isn't the Deku Tree (at least not the one from BotW), he's the Ancient Tree Stump

why is this autistic faggot obsessed with jewtube slop?
buy an ad nigger

>>725046207
>everyone criticizing me ITT is one guy
Absolute baboon behavior

>>725046265
Buy an ad dumbass faggot

>>725046312
>racism
ermmm not cool sweaty…

>>725046260
Oh, do we actually get a Gerudo who uses a Gerudo Spear?

>>725019934 (OP)
I loved AoC but I’m just not in the mood to play this. I’d rather finish my Three Hopes completionism because I love Shez so much

>>725046414
did you mean to reply to the autistic fag advertising jewtube slop?

>>725046265
Because it reinforces his autism.

>>725046494
yes my bad

>>725046527
np bro

>>725046638
Wouldn't surprise me, OP just outed herself as a commie.

>>725046260
Then why was everyone saying he is the the deku tree?!

>>725046260
You mean the one near the flooded village? That makes sense, massive haven of Koroks and various stuff talks about how the tree used to be sacred. ToTK has a piece of the FD set there as well. Shame the dude died because of human greed.

>>725046260
>I have been inside Calamo
H-hot...

>>725047384
Yeah, that one

>>725045963
>IMG_0681
Regardless, the Mario mandate claims were always overblown with misinterpretation spreading repeatedly. The one point that might have some truth to it is likely Strikers Charged being deemed a step too far, but the other games seemed fine. Some of these titles that are used as examples of the "mandates" being broken also seem fine for the most part. Super Paper Mario, for example, actually is a clear case of the "OCs are fine if they stay in their own game / series" clause that seems to exist to the present day. Basically none of the Mario characters or enemies deviated much from their roots aside from Mr. L, which I'm going to guess was mostly fine as a gag aside from maybe Luigi being fused into the final boss.

>>725047508
>>725047485
>we all have been inside Calamo
>in fact, bokos and other demons regularly get inside Calamo every day
what a SLUT

>>725043773
This. The Master Sword and Link are practically the same thing. Fi inhabits the sword, but Link's very spirit has been etched and forged into the sword.

>>725042319
You should know by now that bait, whether intentional or to just draw attention, is how video game threads persist here on /v/. It's now just a discussion thread.

>>725038472
Nice fanfic. Now go back to your twitter https://x.com/Methodios007/status/1986107215028310170/photo/1

So apparently koume and katake are just npcs? Wtf

So do they ever show Rauru and Sonia’s supposed biological kid, or is that never mentioned like all the other shit writing in this?

kino

>>725046253
So you are a lazy reader as well.

>>725046265
>>725046510
You want to reinforce your antisemitism.

>>725046781
American have an irrational fear of Marxism, colour me surprised. Keep falling for red scare propaganda.

>>725042102
That game was utter dogshit
Terrible plot despite having shittons of cutscenes. Obnoxious protagonist whose only personality trait is going MUH MUHRCENARY every single second. Terrible musou gameplay ever thanks to the boring ass copypasted movesets. And worst of all, the fucking stupid ass monastery style progression system where you're forced to do same tasks over and over again
Doesn't help that this is one of the few musou games where there isn't a proper free mode, and even if it had one, have fun being locked of all of the copy pasted characters because the game is built around fucking routes

>AoC sequel nobody asked for full of KT's TOTK OCs
>Still no Xenoblade Warriors

>>725047682
Whatever, people are getting fed up with Nintendo.

>>725041404
Based Mineru fan I hope your wish is granted then again she is getting a special villager in the Animal Crossing update maybe Nintendo.

>>725048941
Never mentioned, a complete nothingburger like everything else. There's barely any substance at all to this story, it really doesn't add anything to what TotK showed us..
I can understand why though, it's completely limiting to try and write within an already established story without contradicting some part of it, so by playing it safe they've not done anything memorable at all. The game was a complete waste of time and I'm almost 100% convinced it was a cashgrab specifically aimed at placating the 10 twitter trannies that cried for Zelda as a protagonist.

>>725049512
Funny because they already had a retcon by having Zelda take a picture of a servant construct when she meets Mineru, despite not seeing that picture when Link gets the Purah Pad in TotK (which had the other pictures that Zelda took at the beginning of the game of the murals when she had the pad with Link)

>>725049101
fuck isreal and fuck palestine

>>725049512
>I can understand why though, it's completely limiting to try and write within an already established story without contradicting some part of it, so by playing it safe they've not done anything memorable at all.
TOTK’s story is so shit that this game having divergence would actually be welcomed… So of course it won't happen and it'll be strictly canon (if you can even call the events of TotK that)
This game would've been based if it used the AOC timeline and was allowed full creativity. Now we are stuck with the shitty TOTK version of this story and Zelda where now, they just have to fudge and make shit up to kind of sorta line up with the terrible memories. You could've had Link, Zelda and all of the champions go back in time with new mechanics, but instead, we have the bland ancient ages and the two fuck up royals nobody likes who intrude in on Link and Zelda’s romance.

They should have gone crazy, have Link go back as well and be together with Zelda like they SHOULD have been in TotK, have the TotK champions AND the BotW champions go back in time as well, that way at least AoI acknowledges BotW’s continuity way more than TotK ever did.
Heck, give LINK the dragon transformation instead of Zelda like it should have been in TotK instead of just retreading (and retconning) BotW and making Zelda go through all that sacrifice bullshit again, which Link would NEVER want his waifu to go through again in the first place.

>>725022338
it hasn't flopped since it hasn't come out, but I hope it does to send a message

>>725050212
Found the “enlightened centrist”.

>>725049512
>I'm almost 100% convinced it was a cashgrab specifically aimed at placating the 10 twitter trannies that cried for Zelda as a protagonist.
Ignoring the Transphobia, we already got that with Echoes of Wisdom (which was still more faithful to the lore than TotK was)

>>725046094
And yet we never see that. More bullshit.

Gove it to me, is the story shit?

>>725049223
It did have a free mode, the NPC on the left of the warp map one lets you redo any map and you can change the route, and you could use any character in new game plus.
Plus the base camp was way better streamlined than the monastery and had lots of QOL in that aspect. Like a separate training bar.

>>725050212
correct, also fuck ukraine and fuck russia

>>725050887
>This game would've been based if it used the AOC timeline

Blame the endless bitching where people wanted MUH SURVIVE MISSION where there would literally be two levels because nothing happened until the calamity happened and Ganon instantly won in a single battle

>>725045757
Which is bullshit, Link should have gotten the “sacrifice dragon transformation” at the climax of the game with Zelda riding him instead of copy pasting BotW, Nintendo has way too much “suffering equals depth” for Zelda. Link would never let the centre of his whole universe go through that again.

>>725051859
It’s a “canon” prequel to the shit story of TotK, what do you think? This sums it up: >>725049512

>>725051541
>Ignoring the Transphobia
faggot

>>725051984
More “enlightened centrist” self-centred america bullshit.

>>725052092
You are me. I always mention this that the lead up to the Calamity was a few monster outbreaks and maybe Yiga bothering Zelda/Link. There’s no game to be had.
Musous need full on massive wars which is why they did what they did with the Malice triggering a huge butterfly effect with Terrako.
I really liked AoC, but as others said how AoI looks like it’s a hyper correction of playing it “safe” to not contradict anything feels meh.

>>725052164
Holy shit that'sgrim. I was midly interested in the game since I liked AoC but I can't give two shit about the canon story.

>>725052450
People think that AOC is canon until the future champions show up. Except it's not canon the moment the game starts since the evil egg starts shit early.

>>725052092
Honestly, AoC should have just had a canon route with the what-if stuff being post game levels or DLC. I thought that AoC was going to tie into and hint at a lot of stuff in TotK back when I thought this was going to be a complex compelling multi-chapter story arc in the zelda series, but then AoC wasted Astor and TotK didn’t even try to be the connected direct sequel it was built up to be, which is why I stopped caring and wanted AoI to do it’s own thing… but now they suddenly care about “consistency and canon”.

>>725040428
>as apology for her shitty HW1 moveset, she now gets to become link
fine by me

>>725052515
>>725052450
>>725052092
I hope AoI at least gets DLC that had the “What-if route” that AoC had.

>>725051336
>>725051692
found the browns and jews

>>725026041
>will be a new Hyrule
uh huh
gonna put the volcano and desert in different spots eh
it's always the same old shit

>>725019934 (OP)
>sequel nobody asked for or wanted to a mediocre game does poorly
Wow, I'm shocked. Who could've seen it coming?

Where dis nigga?

>>725053129
The volcano goes in the top left like god intended

>>725053639
He is even more in the past than Rauru

>>725052994
Cuck.

>>725053639
Who?

How did it flop is it even released yet? Isn't it just Japan?

I enjoyed the other two Hyrule warriors games I do t have a switch 2 yet is this a worthwhile first game bing bing wahoo

>>725053639
he looks so fucking ugly
wolf link all the way

>>725053707
Actually he is supposed to be after Rauru. Really TotK should have had the past that was mentioned in BotW rather than the new retconny one.

>>725053730
Still have nothing but childish name calling.

>>725044142
>reddit screencap
>le heckin human pirates = :D
>le heckin monster pirates = D:

>>725053063
Israelis aren’t actually jews, the Palestinians are more blood related to the ancient hebrews than Israel is (which are just Europeans)

>>725034401
ok but OOT is not the cringe type of anime like you see in shit like fire emblem and persona and botw.

>>725054636
Screw you, I love my anime harem waifus.

I dont understand how people dont get that BOTW is a million times more anime than OOT. It seems so obvious.

So, what's the deal with the masks? And the depths?

>>725019934 (OP)
This is VERY important
Does this game somehow magically have the ruins of Hyrulean towns like in BOTW and TOTK that shouldn't fucking exist yet or were the developers caring enough to take them out for continuity?
This decision will decide my purchase.

>>725054830
The masks prevent COVID. But only if you social distance and have been vaccinated, too.

>>725053639
Retard

>>725045963
Mandate died with the Super Mario RPG and TTYD remakes

>>725043817
Out tomorrow

I consider BOTW and TOTK to be a 100% reboot not connect to the old games at all. I'm talking like a full reboot like DMC was for Devil May Cry or whatever. In fact I think I'd even include Skyward Sword as part of that reboot. The old Zelda universe died with Twilight Princess.

>>725044669
>>Now retconning some important plot points like Sonia dying
lol you also fell for that bait thread

>>725046469
cute Shez :)

CONFIRMED
Calamo is the ancient tree stump, not a deku tree

I'm in

>>725036979
lol spoke too soon bitch

>>725054959
It's basically all small fortified camps and ruins since Hyrule is mostly wilderness filled with monsters. Even Rauru's castle is still under construction. They didn't just copy paste Gerudo town and slap houses in spots where there were originally ruins like they did in AOC

The writing in the modern Zelda games is so bad lmao

>>725019934 (OP)
... did the game even come out?
I'd figure I'd atleast have seen one clickbait all bosses thumbnail or "I wanna fuck that Gerudo" threads if it did.

Dorfy...

>>725045343
>Lol, people in japan and australia have been able to play it for 6-8 hours now
Ah. Typical.

>your final boss is a literal who against literal whos
bravo, nintendo

>>725022338
A flop can only be sales-related. A game can be shit but still sale well, like what happened with Doom 3, considered the worst entry yet it outsold everything before it. I identify as a tendie slayer, but OP is dense as h*ck.

>>725056678
Is that the Link construct or a different one?

>>725056940
the link construct fights against this one

>>725056678
>Armored Fi vs Armored Ghirahim

>>725054554
>Nintendo was too lazy to model Bokoblin pirates

>>725056940
Different. Constructs are what destroyed the Zonai. Mineru is trying to get rid of all traces of them so it cant happen again but Ganondorf manages to get one while the good one is powered by the master sword. While Rauru is sealing Ganondorf Robot Link and the Korok fight the construct so there is no leftover darkness outside of what's being sealed.

>corrupted Constructs
So it’s the Guardians all over again.

>>725019934 (OP)
Does this have any male gaze like Hyrule Wariors 1? Or was it toned down.

>all of ancient hyrule agrees not to keep any records of the knight construct's role in the imprisonment war out of fear someone could use zonai tech for evil in the future
Damn, rude.

>>725056678
>the final guy you beat isn't the guy we knew for a fact it wouldn't be beaten until a dozen thousands years ago (Ganondorf)
oh no how could they do this

>>725056678
BIDEN CONSTRUCT? Holy fuck lois

>>725058197
Maybe that king who banned sheikah tech was onto something

>>725058450
you do have a fight against ganondorf too, but yeah, we already knew what would happen there.
this is a filler final battle regardless, for a "canon" story.

>>725058060
lol

>>725055612
Cunt, did you get that at the crack of dawn?

>>725058060
here is your "male gaze"

>>725055721
Becoming literal trees is still new actually

>>725058197
It's really funny that the ending is literally just the maid standing by a fire burning pages of her book because Mineru told her to

>>725042979
Fi... what the hell did they do to you?

>>725059383
It's only like 10% of the sword so it was either pilot the robot or just appear very small

I've never played any of these group battle games. What's a "good" game of this style? One that isn't just button mashing and has some depth and stuff?

Fi would probably call the goat man and black Zelda slurs

>>725058753
came in the mail at 10am

>>725058060
Zelda's ass is all your going to get.

>>725059547
persona strikers perhaps?
most of the musous really are just button mashing

>>725019934 (OP)
I didn't want age of calamity and I dont want age of calamity 2
I wanted Koei Tecmo to just keep making musous
Mario Warriors
Metroid Warriors
Kirby Warriors
Halo Warriors
Warhammer Warriors
Warriorsware

>>725054628
I don’t give a fuck nigger

So what's the story?
>battle constructs were zonai's army but they destroyed them
>one of the remaining constructs is fueled by the Master Sword and becomes the war's hero
>the war keeps going and while Rauru seals Ganondorf the Master Sword construct fights a construct Ganondorf stole and fueled with his dark magic
>all records of constructs were removed because they didn't want that technology to be revived
>the story is actually what canonically happened before BotW-TotK
?

>>725059547
The original Hyrule Warriors is the best crossover one. The most depth there is to it is just dash cancelling and knowing which strings do the best for hoards, captains, and bosses. Hard mode in Legend mode just inflates HP and damage by a lot, it’s still doable but you gotta level up your new characters first (you don’t have to grind, just spend money in the armory to get them up) while on normal mode, you can go in with a level 1 the moment you get them and win easily. Pretty much every string is good for everything though, so you can mix and match. The real game is in Adventure Mode, that’s where the fun is. I’ve not played much actual dynasty warriors, but the 5 series was fun. Xtreme has that mode where you can play as a grunt and rank up, it’s kinda overrated but still pretty fun. In Hyrule Warriors, every character has an attempt to be pretty balanced around each other even if some are better than others, but in Dynasty Warriors, you’re gonna have much bigger contrasts. Especially with Lu Bu, who is the strongest Chinese man of all time.

>>725059547
some great places to start are Dynasty Warriors 8 and Hyrule Warriors
combat is rather simple, spamming X into a Y finisher and using a special metered attack to stun generals and kill mooks. Most of the depth comes from macromanagement, trying to finish the mission while making sure your bases dont burn down

>>725059943
Yeah, this is why I was really disappointed by this game. I thought they were going to tackle another series this time, but instead they went back for Zelda again. If they just do a tie-in to Fortune's Weave next time, just going to give up most hope if them trying something new.

>>725059790
>>725060179
>>725060263
Thanks.
I saw here that on Steam, Dynasty Warriors 8 is (in my country) six times more expensive than Dynasty Warriors 7. I'm more inclined to start with DW7 because of that. Am I doing shit?

>>725060774
8 has better gameplay with more movesets and what-if scenarios. Kind of weird it’s that much more expensive for you, it’s an old game.

>>725046153
>puts 330 Hours into TotK
>I-I hate it guys I swear. I had NO fun with it!

>>725061005
I think they set the wrong price for DW7. The DW8 is more expensive than the DW9, by the way.

>>725046153
>my eboyfriend made not one but two videos saying he doesn't like the thing, what now?

>>725055612
>that shitty euro rating fucking up the box aesthetic
Im so sorry eurofrens.

>>725061892
The age rating on the cartridge is in german not english too (most third party 3ds and switch games are like this for some reason)

>>725057878
nigger do you even understand the purpose of the ouroboros symbolism?

>>725060138
basically, seems like the constructs actually ended up destroying the zonai, rauru was very concerned about the master sword construct but everyone else vouched for the sword. Theres also the fact that the evil construct actually STOLE the power from the puppet, which was actually formed from dead matter in some kind of ritual.
Honestly this comes at a really weird time, now that in-home llms inside robot suits are supposedly real.

So 12 playable characters total or only so far?

>>725061136
skitty is legitimately the worst commenter on youtube, that dumb hole's entire anti-HW video series is based on a completely unfounded (and according to two year old famitsu interviews, untrue) assumption that the spinoff exists to "give you the story you already paid for in totk"
But then again, this retard also cant comprehend that "The Story" is what you play, not the 20 minutes of flashbacks that tell you a single character's journey. Despite the fact that 90% of cutscenes and dialogue take place in the present.

Still waiting for these people to find out tolkien jewed people by taking the "story they paid for" stretch across two additional books and then get "greedy" by locking the backstory he "cut out" behind another purchase.

>>725062574
So far I've seen
Zelda
Robot Link
Korok
Rauru
Mineru
Hylian with sword and shield
Hylian with two handed sword
Gerudo Sage
Gerudo with two handed sword
Gerudo with one handed sword
Rito Sage
Rito with spear
Rito with sword
Goron Sage
Goron with sword
Goron miner with club
Zora Sage
Old Zora with sword
Zora Guard with spear

I've seen mention of
Ganondorf
Demon King Ganondorf
Evil Robot
Sonia

And there's supposedly 28 characters

>>725062141
was it like that before they merged the subsidiaries last year?

>>725062574
>>725063107
I just wanna see the final roster and side content or at least overall length of the game
that'll decide if I get it or not

>>725019934 (OP)
Is it out already?

ive seen all the cutscenes / watched a playthrough of it and im not impressed.

at least this wild era shit is over

>>725063467
took them 8 years...

ive seen all the cutscenes / watched a playthrough of it and i was impressed.

its sad this wild era kino is over

>>725061892
That’s Australia

I still don't get why they never made Astor playable

>>725019934 (OP)
So is this a canonical sequel to TOTK? Never played a Dynasty/Hyrule Warriors game, but I'm considering getting it if it'll scratch my Wilds era itch since I adored TOTK

>>725064327
It's a canonical prequel to TotK, the full events of the flashbacks you see in that game's memories. Basically what Age of Calamity promised to be in regards of BotW.

>>725063126
Some PAL switch games have a german age rating on the cartridge and some don't have an age rating on it at all. Maybe it has to do with which country they're packaged in, IDK.
It's not a new thing, I have switch games from 2017 and 3DS games from 2011 like this. It's mostly third party games that have it but not all third party games and I've never actually seen anyone else bring it up before

>>725064327
Prequel. Yes, its canon.
It starts with the first memory and ends with the last, but it adds in a little more about the war, makes some stuff make more sense (like why bring moldugas to attack hyrule castle?) and explains why the zonai were driven down to two in the first place.
Its also pretty clear now that if things like lonlon ranch in botw/totk were not easter eggs, but instead supposed to literally be those places, then the ancient past is either before or after SS and link and zelda werent king and queen like everyone assumed, instead just leading a tribe of people to the earth that would be called "hylians"

>>725063107
I hope this gets cleared up soon because it's fucking confusing now. I saw one review claiming there were 4-5 of each race playable, but there's clearly only 3 of each in the story, so who the fuck are the rest?
Then I hear there's only 20 characters, but we already know Ganondorf and Sonia are 100% playable, which pushes it to 21 already, the evil construct to 22 characters but I haven't seen that confirmed either.
I WANT ANSWERS!

>>725064618
I wondered since now all of NoE is under the german branch, but I guess not.

>>725064494
not falling for that lie again. fuck off omega force.

>>725041080
The good musou games give you combos, and a few interesting enemies to fight each level.

>>725064494
>>725064327
>canonical prequel
That's pretty great considering we didn't see much of Rauru and the other past era characters. Between finishing ZA, finishing Bananza, and Prime 4, I think I might get this when it eventually drops in price. Way too many games I want to play are releasing

>>725064997
I miss when killing 1000 enemies was actually a challenge. nowadays every character can swing their sword and watch everything between them and the horizon explode taking out hundreds of enemies at a time. I miss when the hitbox was limited to the actual swing of your sword.

>>725062991
I genuinely despise people who are too smooth brained to enjoy a story holistically.

>>725019934 (OP)
is the game out yet? i want to do the zoomer thing and watch other people play it then give my opinion about it.

>>725064683
This is long after AoL nigga, the devs already said
>just because Rauru founded Hyrule Kingdom doesn't mean it was the first Hyrule Kingdom lol

>>725064982
>that lie
Why the fuck do you even care? Do you not realize that the entire concept of "canon" is meant for religions, you literally care more about the continuity of a fucking video game made by a japanese toy company than you care about your own soul, you have replaced God with a fucking fairyboy you niggerfaggot.

>>725065078
I have yet to play Silksong after I beat Z-A but I may do something like that. Do Warriors drop price? Nintendo games usually don't and this is technically a Zelda

There hasn’t been a single game above an 8/10 on the Switch 2 so far. I bought a Switch 2 but have been playing my PS5 far more.

>>725065398
5 hours I think.

What killed the hype?

>>725065509
Koei isn't gonna fuck you bro, (aside from with their prices). the bait and switch they pulled with AoC was complete bullshit, and i'm sure this one will be twice as bad.

Reminder that Three Hopes was going to receive DLC but it got cancelled. Some of the DLC characters were datamined with fully recorded dialogue.

>>725065668
BotW fatigue, also AoC pulling a bait and switch

>>725065776
Who were they?

>>725065776
IS shifting resources to Engage was their biggest blunder. Unironically almost killed the franchise again.

musou games are so awful that even the ones that attach their parasitic existence to some of the most popular franchises of all time go unnoticed by the most unwitting nintendo coonsumer

>>725065285
Fuckers need to read more books or something.

>>725061447
DW9 was a gigaflop so it makes sense.

>>725065998
I was ready to give up on it again after it finally brought me back in with Three Houses. Team Maeda should never be allowed outside the mobileshit mines ever again. Thankfully Fortune's Weave is more Three Houses which isn't the ideal but at least it's not a remake or another Maeda game.

>>725065921
Kronya was one of them. I tried looking for the videos on YouTube but couldn’t find them. I don’t know what happened to the guy’s channel that was posting everything.

>>725056678
>shadow link is a literal who
Ok anon

>musou
>not being flop

>>725065668
There wasn't any, the reaction to the initial reveal was immediate revulsion.

>>725052092
I hated the bitching, because AOC was a more satisfying experience than the game it was based off of. We will never get a conclusion to AOCs timeline, ganondorf is still alive there.

>>725057249
>Mineru tries to get rid of constructs cause they exterminated her race
>Ends up possessing one in TOTK as the fifth sage
Pretty kino

How many more games will they shoehorn Fi into?

The soundtrack in the game is a nothingburger compared to the incredible age of calamity ost. Multiple reviewers sounded their disappointment at this

>>725019934 (OP)
Whats with all the retards saying it's Fi, they call the thing a man and it's a projection of Link the master sword is imprinting onto the construct. Fi autists need to go away.

>>725069276
Skyward Sword is the worst thing that ever happened to this franchise.