Thread 725037359

How many years before they're regarded as Bethesda-tier?

For that to happen they would have to start making buggy slop first.

>>725037359 (OP)
-3
elden ring was their skyrim

If they make ER2, it'll be incredibly cringe

How many years before /v/ stops seething over their success?
never_________

>>725037650
Bethesda is more successful than they are, though.

>>725037824
Getting bought and gutted by Microsoft isn't my definition of success

>>725038040
From will be bought and gutted by Sony within the decade.

>>725038186
Keep dreaming

>>725037359 (OP)
YORU TURN

>>725037359 (OP)
Already are, they're a low quality one trick pony who realized they can shit out anything and people will eat the shit in droves. They're Nu-Blizzard 2.0

2 years ago.

>>725037359 (OP)
They were never good to begin with.

>>725037359 (OP)
Never. They are fundamentally different with fundamentally different philosophies for what RPGs are. The difference between From and Bethesda now is exactly the same as From and Bethesda in the 90s.

From Software? more like assets FROM my last SOFTWARE

>>725040146
Seriously, go back and play Daggerfall and King's Field and you will see the same trends that lead both companies to their final destination.

Didn't Fromsoftware came into the scene the same time as Bethesda and was considered an inferior Bethesda by journalists in the 2000s? If so it already happened back then.

>>725037359 (OP)
A game company needs to have lile 3 or 4 universally recoginzed bad games in a row for them to have "fallen". Fromsoft only has Nightreign so far, and the first is generally forgiven with built up good will.

They'd have to fuck up pretty bad to become the new Bethesda. Probably won't be as soon as you hope, OP.

>>725040403
>Fromsoft only has Nightreign so far

>>725040268
no

>>725040403
duskbloods will be number 2 I bet

>>725040624
>duskbloods
Nobody will know if its bad because its on the switch2

>>725040624
I remember that King's Field IV review from that magazine where the journalist calls it Oblivion but bad.

>>725040403
>Dark Souls 2
>PTDE
>Bloodborne
>Dark Souls 3
>Elden Ring

>>725040268
Those sentiments have never changed, journalists had to bend the knee to From and they still seethe about it.


Bethesda is player focused, while From is enemy focused. The former is pro journalist, the latter is pro gamer.

>>725037824
Not really? Bethesda has far higher maintenance costs than FromSoft. From Soft's bottom line is far nicer. Bandai forced them to make 3 Dark Souls for a reason. Bloodborne and Sekiro also sold exceedingly well and Elden Ring is a cultural phenomenon.

Fallout 4 and Skyrim are outliers, most of Bethesda's games sell mid to good.

>>725040834
Oblivion and Morrowind sold pretty well if you adjust player inflation.

>>725040713
I think we're well past the point where you need to play a game to know if it's bad.

>>725040715
That's a pretty fucking retarded comparison.

>>725040771
DS2 was a dark horse entry, not a bad one.
you're a contrarian, it's objectively better.
not even close to bad
lazy but not bad.
lazy and borderline bad

>>725040403
Nightreign is good though, you not liking it doesn't make it bad universally. It's actually quite successful.

None of FromSoft's games failed. DS2 is the dark horse and its still a cut above most games. Sekiro and Bloodborne redefined genres.

Armored Core 6 was kinda meh but it's also the only decent mech game in recent memory (X Machina isn't bad but it plays and feels low budget).

There's no actual argument here. FromSoft's actual bad games are in it's past, Kings Field was mid at best. It's actually a formerly mid studio becoming excellent, pretty rare to see.

>>725037359 (OP)
When Duskbloods releases.
You'll have hordes of people coming out, especially here, saying that FromSoft was never good and that Elden Souls was always overrated slop.

Until the game gets rereleased on PC. If it ever does.

>>725041056
literally every major release goes this way

>>725041056
We have been having those conversations before. Nothing changes unless it objectively fails.

>>725040963
Morrowind no. Oblivion maybe but not nearly to the same extent as some other cultural heavy hitters. It's definitely a standout game that influenced the genre, was my first Bethgame so I love it most, but it wasn't a household name.
The Witcher 3 is a game you could actually compare against Skyrim in that regard.

>>725037359 (OP)
Fromsoft has the Reddit advertising. As long as Reddit lives then they will live. Fromsoft will start collapsing rapidly once Reddit gets shut down.

>>725039719
Mmmhmmm sure anon. Let’s peek into your steam library so we can fully understand what you think is slop and what isn’t

>>725041034
AC6 was a very good small game for enthusiasts and it was still financially successful.
From could shit out a souls game every year and rake in millions, they still don't and redefine even der own formula every time (Bloodborne and sekiro). When there is one soulful developer left, it's From.

>>725041159
>>725041185
I know, but it'll be significantly worse because the
Duskbloods is a Switch 2 exclusive. With the current anti-Nintendo sentiment, opinions on the game are going to be fucking atrocious no matter its quality.

>>725037359 (OP)
Never.

>>725040403
>Fromsoft only has Nightreign so far,
You might have a point if most players didn't enjoy it AND it wouldn't be an explicit, non-canon spinoff game.
Even if it was just half as bad as /v/ would love it to be, it will always be filed under "experiment that another director got to make some mistakes with" and not a botched mainline entry.

>>725041364
>consolewars
business as usual, half cried when dark souls went to pc and the other half cried when bloodborne didn't

>>725041364
It's more the same then since these threads always have shazamtroons like>>725041279 spamming antiFrom rhetoric since Elden Ring or before that. It's all ride or die for them. The anti-Nintendo crowd is so minuscule in comparison when it comes to discussion around Duskbloods or Fromsoft.

>>725041305
Wasn't AC6 like the most sold AC game by a large margin?
It probably introduced a bunch of new people to series. Pic related.

>>725041608
>Wasn't AC6 like the most sold AC game by a large margin?
Yes, tends to happen when you've got an overwhelmingly larger audience than in the ps1/ps2/ps3 era. Not that I haven any complaints here or there.

>>725040403
let me guess the dog filtered you?

>>725040547
That's an amazing DLC though.

>>725041608
The gaming market back then was fucking microscopic compared to what it is now.

>>725041590
Wonder what's got them pissy recently, they've got five threads up

>>725040268
you're a genuine fucking idiot lmao. fromsoft's been around since the 90s

>>725042432
Daggerfall released the same time King's Field did with a 2 year difference. They're both fps dungeon crawlers ironically.

>>725037824
Objectively correct

>>725041279
The very same website that demands journalist difficulty in all games loves Fromsoft? I doubt it.

>>725042557
They're both inspired by Ultima Underworld. RPG genealogy is a big tree.

>>725041790
It had the potential of being much better than what we got in the final product

>>725037824
How's Elder Scrolls 6 going?

>>725040403
Anyone who’s played Nightreign for an appreciable amount of time knows it isn’t bad

>>725041785
That extra life they added ruined EVERYTHING tho, just a feeling

>>725037359 (OP)
The problem with Bethesda is that they don't understand how to design games. None of their games are good games if you go by mechanics and gameplay and the main quest is always a low point, they just have interesting worlds, where you just go and walk around to find fun shit. The reason why Starfield and Fallout 76 failed is because you can't pick a direction and walk there to find something interesting, you just find yourself bored.
Fromsoft makes games that are fun to play for the gameplay, which is good enough for a solid game.