Thread 725051979

>FIRST area of the FIRST game is still the BEST one in the ENTIRE franchise
How did they do it?

sovl

>>725051979 (OP)
but the first boss....

>>725051979 (OP)
Shit souls was never good

>>725052404
i got filtered hard having to run the gauntlet with the fire spewing dragon and fighting the boss at the end

>>725051979 (OP)
Bloodborne's first area was better but this castle was great as well
forest of fallen giants is dogshit, high wall of lothric is a dogshit hallway and lower undead burg is kinda cool but extremely short compared to boletarian castle

>FIRST swamp of the FIRST game is still the WORST one in the ENTIRE franchise
How did they do it?

>>725052617
Wrong. Just because it's spicy flavored doesn't hide the fact that Lost Izalith is a swamp level

>>725051979 (OP)
Stormveil and the opening of Bloodborne are just as good if not better.

>>725051979 (OP)
Because demon's souls was an action-adventure game so they actually had to make interesting areas instead of making a boss rush map with shitty low-effort muh door does not open from this side shortcuts

>>725052617
you can keep spamming heal though so it's not that bad

>>725052485
You're brown

>>725052569
>hallway
1-1 is a hallway too
in fact 1-1 and high wall share the structure to a t

>>725051979 (OP)
Almost want to but...
Stormveil Castle > 1-1 > Central Yharnam > Ashina Outskirts > Forest of Fallen Giants > High Wall of Lothric

>>725053172
Why the fuck is there no demon's souls PC port? It doesn't suffer from being under the stinky foot of Sony, so why not port it? Google said there was no port, so correct me if I'm wrong.

>>725053172
>shitty low-effort muh door does not open from this side shortcuts
?
That literally happens in that exact level.

>>725053525
playstation was taken over by jews and they hate everything japanese

>>725053172
>muh door does not open from this side shortcuts
instead it's
>muh door does not open on this world tendency

>>725053525
You can use RPCS3 to play it on PC
You can even play online on a private server, it always has a few players

>>725053525
Like 5 companies have a stake in publishing the game. Sony, Atlus, Namco, From. The game will never be ported

>>725052718
It never occurred to me before, but you're completely right.

Many such cases.

>>725051979 (OP)
Every souls game’s first level is the best part of the game.

>>725054040
not true for dark souls 2 and 3

>>725054040
Not true for Elden Shling

3-2 is later in the game

You HAD to be there

>>725054132
Based taste, all parts of that level are my favorite in the franchise, it's just so beautiful in the original game

>>725054227
>emulator at 4k
You weren’t there

>>725051979 (OP)
Nah

5-2 was when I realized that I was playing a masterpiece

>>725054254
yes I was

>>725054227
it's 120fps now pal

>>725054254
>false equivalence

it's very typical for the first stage of the game to have the most care poured into it to leave a strong impression. that would go double for something like demon's where each level is a substantial chunk of the playtime.

For me it's the storm king boss fight area, it feels like a weird dream

>>725054126
yeah because limgrave and stormveil are the only good parts of the game

>>725052404
real fans aren't playing souls gamers for the bosses but for the adventure

>>725053692
Yeah but I didn't want to use an emulator, it's a shame that we have to go around a bunch of corporate idiots that are gatekeeping the premiere title of Fromsoft. That's like the church gate keeping the Bible.

>>725054857
Trvth

>>725054417
Not your image. It’s simply too white to be from you.

>>725052617
I always liked the Valley of Defilement because I just made a build that regenerated health quicker than the poison drained it

Was fucking around the other day and tried Pure Black 4-2 for the first time. That area is usually considered one of the harder ones and I’ve never had much trouble with it on normal -> white, but on Pure Black it’s very tough. The red skeleton guys can one shot you, and there’s a lot of them. Might do a Pure Black run of all levels soon.

>>725052485
TPBP

>>725053462
Where would you rank Undead Burg?

>>725052617
It's just a swamp

>>725051979 (OP)
By actually experimenting and not just copying a successful formula into the ground with more and more slop infused in every new entry.

>>725054591
Still my favorite Souls boss. All “muh difficulty” fags should be beheaded.

>>725051979 (OP)
nah
undead burg was way better

>>725055196
NTA but the Burgh on its own is a tutorial on varied enemy placements and exploration but is better viewed as part of the larger sequence of itself and The Parish.
The greater journey to ring the first bell is some of the best overall design in the series but the Burgh on its own I would place ahead of Forest of Fallen Giants.

>>725055406
true, for me it's like shadow of the colossus
after learning the gimmicks I don't really care about difficulty and replay them simply because how cool some of the fights are

>>725056184
>Demake
Ew

>>725056219
>can't run it so must hate it

played og DeS recently after all the other souls games and you guys were right, its great, nails the same depressing but grand feel as DS1, maybe even better, the music and atmosphere is godlike and the bosses even though they are quite easy with the exception of flamelurker, they are still unique

>>725052404
Perhaps it's a bit too easy but I like bosses that control the arena
the rat boss from ds2 is not that bad

maneaters > gargoyles

>>725056184
I played this for the first time recently and I was genuinely impressed by the graphics and animations.
Made me wish they remade other older souls games, i'd love a DS1 and DS2 remake using the same graphics but the DS2 remake needs soul memory removed.

>>725056184
the worst crime is what they did to the ui

>>725056508
which you can set to auto-hide

>>725054857
Very true. This is why I refunded Nightreign. Turns out it's just a bossing game.
Not a fan of the bossification of souls. But it sure sells.

>>725056436
yeah, I hope Bloodborne is PS6 launch title

not a consolewar guy but it's crazy how 2 of the best games in the franchise, DeS and bloodborne are still sony exclusives
thankfully I could emulate both on PC

>>725056596
That's why I dropped DS3

>>725056580
thanks for this random bit of trivia anon, much appreciated

>>725056863
based. I finished it once. but was the first souls game I never played again.

>>725054857
Adventure is only good for one playthrough, bosses are what you replay a game for.

>>725052569
>lower undead burg
Extremely bland area.
>>725052617
Lake of Rot is worse because its just a giant empty pit and you can't use your horse to get around faster.
No idea why it ended up like that, maybe there was a plan to put more stuff there but it got cut.

>>725053172
>shitty low-effort muh door does not open from this side shortcuts
That is exactly how every shortcut in DeS works.

>>725056371
Glad you enjoyed it, anon. I felt the same way.
Which one do you prefer of those two?

comfiest game to replay in the series
going through latria for the first time is still peak souls experience for me

>>725057410
why should I replay a game for bosses?!

>>725054040
The Storm map is the best part of DeS.
Blight Town is the best part of DS1
Heide's Tower is the best part of DS2
Upper Cathedral Ward is the best part of Bloodborne.
The return to Lothric is the best part of DS3.
Leyndell is the best part of Elden Ring.

>>725056508
Wrong. It's the audio.
Most people are too dense to notice that though.

>>725057851
Fighting them with different builds feels radically different in a way that dungeoneering rarely does.
Fighting lizardmen or knights really doesn't feel that different between a mage or melee class, but against the bosses weapon and build choice changes things a lot and gives you something to want to come back for.

>>725054765
But Leyndell is better

>>725057995
I don't get it. I can play RPGs countless of times with different builds are classes, but bosses are always the most boring part.

>>725057410
for me it was low lvl bell tower pvp in DS2

>>725058064
Most RPGs have terrible bosses, so you can't really generalize like that.
Like I wouldn't replay BG2 for its bossfights, they all suck. But Souls games have good bosses, 9/10 times.

>>725057038
any time

>>725054417
This is similar to what my first month home from prison looked like
>crt
>des on ps3
>output to stereo speakers
>sitting in a old wooden kitchen table chair
also playing the demake is for swarthoids and third worlders

>>725053525
we'd get the demake if it ever got ported anyway

>>725054857
I've always had this view, and it's disappointing how much the series has shifted towards difficult boss fights. I really enjoyed the latest lords of the fallen for the exploration, and wish there were more of these sorts of games that were about the level design and enemy placement, instead of just flailing anime bosses.

>>725051979 (OP)
Bro, the boss runbacks are fucking brutal in this game.
What world do you guys think is legit the most cancer when it comes to reaching the boss room?

>>725060871
open shortcuts
don't die