Thread 725055814

>The last sly cooper game was released more than 20 years ago (reminder that thieves in time is non canon and doesn't exist)
Furry /v/ros, it's over...

Sucker Punch wanted to move on
They make one game at a time and some people just don't want to keep making the same thing over and over and over again

>>725056560
shame they're busy making woke garbage. they should sell their IPs if they don't plan on making more. I'd love to see a new infamous and more sly

>>725056707
>they should sell their IPs if they don't plan on making more
1. They're owned by Sony
2. Who the fuck would buy?
3. A new developer wouldn't necessarily be a good developer nor a good developer be an interested one

>>725056947
well how do you suggest we get new entries for sly and infamous then?

>>725057026
It happens when it happens
We have no control over it unless you decided to become a game developer, accrue a credible portfolio, and make a pitch to Sony

Nobody ITT has played Rocket: Robot on Wheels.

>be sony
>an unproven literal who developer wants to make a vita tech demo game with one of your flagship IP
>yeah sure
>actually they want to make it the next main entry in the series and release it on PS3 at the same time
>yeah sure
>you don't make vita cartridges big enough to fit the entire game, so they want to release it unfinished with a cliffhanger ending, and release the ending as DLC later
>yeah sure
>the game didn't reach its sales goals but we want to make that DLC anyways, that good with you?
>no, i'm going to draw the line here for some reason
>hey boss that R&C movie didn't do so well, should we keep making the sly one?
>no, cancel that too, fuck sly cooper

>sly cooper, jak and daxter, littlebigplanet, locoroco, ape escape, parappa the rapper are all dead
>ratchet and clank is relegated to one tech demo per console generation
>after killing every memorable kids IP they ever made, sony is desperately trying to prop up astro bot, a sentient apple product made as filler for a kinect rip-off's tech demo, as their kid-friendly mascot
>man why does no one respect us? what does nintendo have that we don't? don't 6 year olds wanna play uhhhhhhhhhh ghost of yotei?

I don't understand why people have so much beef with TiT
it isn't as good as the old games but I certainly wouldn't call it bad, are people really that hung up on the characterization of one side-character who barely appeared in the 3rd game?
ratchet was a way bigger departure from the original trilogy

>>725061784
The character designs are ugly and the characters themsevles got flanderized.

>>725060543
>>an unproven literal who developer wants to make a vita tech demo game with one of your flagship IP
They handled the remasters and Sony thought it was good enough to greenlight their pitch

>>725059281
I have. It's not great, but it's not terrible either. It was way ahead of its time, but I wouldn't care to play it again.

>>725055814 (OP)
>Furry /v/ros, it's over...
That's okay, Sly 3 ended on a high note that left me satisfied and content with what I got. Given that 2005 was also my junior year in high school, the closing of this franchise worked also as a close to my teenage years and the beginning of my adulthood. I would keep my PS2, but by 2007 I was employed, in college, and had built my own gaming PC. I bought the Orange Box and BioShock, beginning the next chapter of my life. I cannot possibly imagine a sequel to Sly 3 ever working, so I'm glad it was never attempted.

I am a furry gooner. I've consumed a lot of media specifically on the merit of it having anthro characters, but I must confess, I've never really resonated with the Sly Cooper series. I tried to play them... the weren't bad at all, just not for me. I just don't have the patience for 3d collect-athon style games.

Think fast

>>725059281
>>725062553
you think it can get on NSO?

>>725063360
TENOR BASS BASS SOPRANO

the current devs are extremely disrespectful to this franchise. one of them was asked in an interview about Sly a few months ago and said they had no interest in ever working on it again. modern snoy employees are all movie game retards who hate games like Sly and Crash and Jak.

>>725063360
NARWHALE. BACONS.

>>725055814 (OP)
I honestly miss the sly IP but im happy its dead because if it was made today it would have probably been woke garbage where sly is turned into a side charater in his own game.

>>725063439
No because Ubisoft published it, and I doubt they even remember they own the IP.

I need to play these games again

>>725063896
see. all they care about is movie game crap like last of us and ghost of yotei

>>725063896
I wonder what the other 90% are interested in making.

>>725064079
money, like normal employees. Get a life, sperg.

>>725064232
>work in creative field
>only care about money
At that point why not just work in a better paid field like an accountant or lawyer or something

>>725063594
>>725063896
Sucker Punch loves Sly Cooper
They've reference him in every single of one of their games since
They just wanted to move on to other projects because you only live once
It's why they ended his series on a high note wrapping up every major plot thread but left a teaser for whatever developer wanted to pick up the torch after them

>>725064232
That's unnecessarily aggressive anon, I was simply curious.

>>725061784
To their credit, Sanzaru did have a strong understanding of what made the environments and general format so strong in the Sly games.
But, unfortunately, they understood absolutely nothing else.

>Everything that wasn't a carbon copy from 2 or 3, like the Ancestors' abilities, didn't have the tightness or cohesiveness of design that the original trilogy relied on.

>The minigames weren't as engaging on the whole.
>Carmelita was barely relevant, they could have used the time and resources it took to implement her for something else.

>The Ancestors should have presented unique platforming challenges by removing core aspects of Sly's moveset, but instead, most of them were carbon copies with a gimmick that made them worse than Sly himself.
>The villains are way less memorable and way less fleshed out.

>The story in general was weak. Sly has never been shown to have a compulsion for theft. Just a dedication to his familial legacy and a natural talent for it that complement each other. He wouldn't abandon Carmelita, whom he discarded that same familial legacy and chose to live a lie for, just to sate a supernatural thieving urge.

>Penelope was never evil. The Black Baron was a fib that Rube Goldberged into a problem she couldn't dig herself out of without the Cooper Gang's help. She had no motive to become the Black Knight, and it was massively retarded to take away the culmination of Bentley's character arc in the very next game.

>Sly is a jackass constantly insulting his friends, who refuses to take anything seriously.
>Bentley is a withering coward.
>Murray is just an easily manipulated retard with no self esteem.
>All of their growth is undone and they're reduced to one character trait picked out of a hat from the previous three games.

If they didn't botch the writing, it would have gone down as a minor disappointment like Jak And Daxter: The Lost Frontier.

But did butcher the story and characters, and that's why everyone hates it.

>>725064638
Anon, being shackled to a single series for your entire career doesn't sound like pro-creativity

>>725064079
Almost anything really
It's their choice

>>725064068
>Forcing game devs to make games I don't want bad
>Game devs choosing to make games I don't want bad
>Forcing game devs to make games I like good

>>725064820
>Almost anything really
>It's their choice
Brilliant answer my highly literate friend but I was more referring to what specific ideas they had for games.

>>725064942
I don't know
I don't work there

>>725065024
That's okay, you don't have to answer questions if you don't know the answer to them.

>>725064942
Alright alright, I completely misunderstood your post
My bad

>>725064805
>a minor disappointment like Jak And Daxter: The Lost Frontier.
minor because it wasn't terrible or minor because no one expected anything?

>>725063896
Come on, you can't convince any of them? Murray's been low-key gay the whole time. I'm sure you could get some bites if you played up that angle. If they want to be making shit that pushes the limits of graphical fidelity, why not focus on making the game look just as stylized as the cutscenes?

>>725065173
Minor because it wasn't a total disaster that retroactively makes the other games worse unless you refuse to consider it canon altogether.
You can safely ignore The Lost Frontier. It didn't have serious implications for the lore, and it didn't flanderize the characters to hell. It might as well not exist. You can't say that about Thieves in Time.

>>725063762
Sony owns the IP
Copyright goes to Sucker Punch

>>725065373
>Murray's been low-key gay the whole time
Developer commentary actually confirmed that IIRC
>convince any of them
They only have enough people to make one game at a time and game development is harder now than it was back then
A new Sly game wouldn't be Ghost of Yotei levels of expensive but it'd still be expected to be on par with say Ratchet & Clank

>>725065373
Scratch that, his VA said in a podcast he was gonna be written to be bisexual but it was dropped because it confused test players
He's still clearly well....flamboyant at least

>>725065624
It's a shame "grown up" turned out to mean "less interactive."

>>725065624
Again, it's 100% in their choice not to continue
Druckmann himself cancelled Jak 4 because it looked like what Naughty Dog wanted but not something fans would've wanted
It's only really a problem (assuming you think the story simply isn't over) if Naughty Dog themselves would either
A. Try to turn Jak & Daxter into something alienating
B. Actively prevented another studio from making a game in that series which going by Lost Frontier and Daxter they wouldn't have a problem with
Now stop and ask yourself, how many genuinely honest to god outside pitches for a new Jak game were given to Sony from trustworthy and reliable developers have happened?

>>725065548
>Murray's been low-key gay the whole time
>Developer commentary actually confirmed that IIRC
They did. Murray was supposed to be a distasteful bisexual caricature. They got all the way to recording his lines before Sony forced them to tone it down.

Personally, I think it still came through without bashing you over the head with it, and he's better as a character for it. I don't think it would be the worst thing in the world to make it explicitly canon though.

>>725065548
>Developer commentary actually confirmed that IIRC
Sorta. It was early 00s where gay was a joke. He's closer to Big Gay Al from South Park than a serious gay character

>>725065837
>Druckmann himself cancelled Jak 4 because it looked like what Naughty Dog wanted but not something fans would've wanted
I would have believed this before the whole TLOU2 hilarity but looking back now it seems the decision was less about what the fans wanted and more about what Druckmann wanted.

>>725065919
Yeah but even Big Gay Al wasn't positively shamed or discriminated for his sexuality
Mr. Slave is a degenerate but he's still one of the biggest voices of reason in the show

>>725066032
The difference is that The Last of Us is his baby so it was like Old Yeller for him
It reminds me of how Kojima was gonna kill off Snake and Otacon at the end of MGS4 but then his staff protested

>>725066136
sorry, poorly worded. let me try again:
>It was the early 00s when the "gay accent" alone was enough to make a character funny, and the voice actor leaned into that because Murray's a big pink hippo

>>725066271
>The Last of Us is his baby
Really? Because from what I heard it was mostly Amy Henning's writing that got it the attention it received. Maybe TLOU2 was his baby, sure. His precious little AIDS baby that didn't make it to multiplayer.

>>725066489
She didn't work on The Last of Us

>>725066953
The last Naughty Dog game she worked on was Uncharted 4. And the credit that should have been hers was pretty much stolen by Neil Druckmann.

bump

desu I never liked the idea of The Last of Us. The Walking Dead had gotten old for me, along with the trope
>hurr hurr humans the real enemies in a zombie plague
and how it's presented as this ultra-serious masterwork when it's just a TPS zombie shooter with human enemies. The fact that it took over gaming for a while and the new God of War decided to join the bandwagon didn't do it any favors for me, either

>>725065624
I might be in the minority, but I thought Jak had a more interesting story and setting than anything in Uncharted or Last of Us. Still curious how Jak becomes Mar.

Does Penelope straight-up kill Sly as the Black Baron during her boss fight? She seemed really okay with murdering the leader of the gang that was trying to recruit her.

>>725070920
If she manages to kill Sly it would mean she is wrong about him

>>725071067
True. Also she has a HELL of an uppercut and enough downward force to jostle an airplane mid-flight. Was her disguise mechanized or something? Another case of "Boss when you fight them VS Boss when you play as them"

>>725071263
We have no reason to believe she isn't just that strong, because you do get to play as her, briefly. She kicks LeFwee's ass on a level playing field without much help, and he's established to be a pretty dangerous guy regardless of his stature.