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Anonymous No.725064475 [Report] >>725064549 >>725064639 >>725064653 >>725065541 >>725065871 >>725068928 >>725069105 >>725070718 >>725072064 >>725073260 >>725074768
Fallout 3 was kino and I'm tired of pretending it wasn't
Anonymous No.725064549 [Report]
>>725064475 (OP)
Fallout 3 = Fallout 4 >>>>>>>
Anonymous No.725064580 [Report]
are you a tranny? sure sound like one
Anonymous No.725064639 [Report]
>>725064475 (OP)
GOOD POST SAAAAR.
Anonymous No.725064653 [Report] >>725070348 >>725073024
>>725064475 (OP)
The only arguments for F3 over NV are the atmosphere and weapon variety. It's inferior in every other regard.
Anonymous No.725065109 [Report] >>725070517
It was broken, ugly, unfinished Bethesda trash, and still is
A fucking console port
Cunts like you with no standards are why we can't have nice things
Anonymous No.725065541 [Report] >>725066898 >>725067838 >>725069040
>>725064475 (OP)
I enjoyed Fallout 3, it was my first Fallout game, and for what it was when it was released, it was pretty damn fun and filled a much needed niche. For its time, it was one of the only games of its type to really actually nail just an open-world game, and had the player be a part of it and interact with it, from dialogue to weapons to just walking across the DC area. It nailed it, it really did. So insofar as that, it is always going to hold a pretty high place in my heart. It had a "wow" factor because of its place in time.

But then New Vegas came, and completely blew 3 out of the water in pure immersion, with likable characters, varied dialogue options, and honestly better storytelling. The DLC's also just simply added to it.

There was a lot to offer from both, but with a lot of time passing, a lot of players were able to weed and tease out a lot of the failures of them (and Fallout 3 does has some very glaring flaws, especially in the dialogue and storytelling department, the most egregious one being the piss-poor ending that railroaded the player to their death).

But then we have faggots like you and the other retards in this thead, who can't appreciate what was made and try to instigate bullshit. If you're such a tryhard failure of a creature to keep this perpetual snobbing up, not being able to just have fun with a game just because some other losers like you are hating on the game you like, well then.

Just fucking leave. Take yourself out of the pool because you add nothing to it.
Anonymous No.725065871 [Report] >>725071053
>>725064475 (OP)
i'm replaying this with TTW
why did they scatter so many super mutants around the map? the modlist i'm using makes them harder too so it's really annoying encountering super mutants in so many places
Anonymous No.725066898 [Report] >>725068278 >>725070454
>>725065541
>but with a lot of time passing, a lot of players were able to weed and tease out a lot of the failures of them
Nobody has done this to New Vegas outside of when it was new and whatever scrutiny it (rightfully) received for its derivativeness or bugginess etc. when it first came out was nowhere near enough relative to the borderline worship it receives now. It gets free passes any number of other games with similar issues aren't afforded because of years of arbitrary narratives with no basis other than that enough other people have parroted them before and myths surrounding things like its Metacritic bonus that never was (which its own developers have rebuked multiple times). It actually is the glorified expansion pack people reductively refer to sequels they don't like as, again to the extent that its own developers have compared it to an elaborate DLC at least twice, and shares the overwhelming majority of 3's flaws by virtue of being pretty much identical to it, but people now act like it's on the opposite end of a quality spectrum. It's probably the biggest beneficiary of double standards in its genre.
Anonymous No.725067838 [Report]
>>725065541
New Vegas is gay as fuck, there's a reason everyone rightfully points out the tranny shit.
Anonymous No.725068278 [Report]
>>725066898
>years of arbitrary narratives with no basis other than that enough other people have parroted them before and myths surrounding things like its Metacritic bonus that never was (which its own developers have rebuked multiple times).

I think youtube essayists have been a huge contributor to this prevailing myth. A quick google search will bring up Chris Avellone stating on twitter that Bethesda never screwed them over with the bonus or score. J sawyer and I think Tim Cain stated that Bethesda sent out resources with gamebyro to help develop FONV and would accommodate with trouble shooting. But yet for whatever reason video essay channels love to dog pile on the myth Bethesda intentionally fucked them over the Metacritic bonus
Anonymous No.725068928 [Report]
>>725064475 (OP)
>textures are just plain bad
>character faces are almost as bad as Oblivion's
>stiff animations with no transitions
>tiny settlements
>vastly underpopulated "big" battles
>the writing sucks
It's the opposite of kino. The only cinematic things it has are the OST and color grading
Anonymous No.725068987 [Report] >>725069116 >>725069614
>black guy
>calls his radio station "gay nigga radio"
bit on the nose, todd howard
Anonymous No.725069040 [Report]
>>725065541
This is the most correct non-boomer take for Fallout.
Anonymous No.725069105 [Report] >>725069465 >>725074932
>>725064475 (OP)
I think Fallout 4 reusing liberty prime again was kinda cheap but he was cool in Fallout 3.
Anonymous No.725069116 [Report] >>725069730
>>725068987
I love that he's literally a psy-op for the BoS in the region. He only exists as a counter psy-op to the enclave radio and couldn't exist without them.
Anonymous No.725069465 [Report]
>>725069105
yeah i mean the entirety of fallout 4 was derivative. it's like bethesda took everything people said they liked in fallout 3 and put it in fallout 4 so they could go "wow look, you can do that thing here too! isn't that so nostalgic?"
Anonymous No.725069564 [Report]
good morning saars
Anonymous No.725069614 [Report]
>>725068987
Need mo caps fo dem programs
Anonymous No.725069730 [Report]
>>725069116
>Hanoi Hannah for the irradiated audiences
Lmao
Anonymous No.725070348 [Report] >>725070412
>>725064653
Wrong! It’s superior in every regard!
Anonymous No.725070412 [Report]
>>725070348
good morning fabio
Anonymous No.725070454 [Report]
>>725066898
I am the anon you were replying to, and this is a fairly well done critique. So thank you for not just being an asspained callous douche. I do appreciate and respect that.

And you're right, FO:NV does receive a lot of double-standard love. But I believe that stems more from the sour-taste a lot of players had with the ending of FO3, not so much the nit-picky nature youtube critics try and peddle with their need to pad their videos runtimes so they can stay relevant to YTs algorithms. On top of that, these YT idiots were never so abundant back when either FO:3 or FO:NV were released, as compared to today, so I suspect maybe a little bit of bias there.

They both ran on the exact same game engine, so of course they will share a TON of flaws from a game design standpoint. Especially the bugs that are in both games.

But, honestly thank you for having an actual discussion with me here about this. It's refreshing
Anonymous No.725070517 [Report]
>>725065109
Wrong
Anonymous No.725070674 [Report]
oh boy, looks like the resident schizo found the thread
Anonymous No.725070718 [Report]
>>725064475 (OP)
F3 is fun but it's not a fallout game and not a good rpg.
Anonymous No.725071053 [Report] >>725072187 >>725073625
>>725065871
Because you’re the badass lone wonderer a holy man who can kill thousands of demonic mutants in a single battle.
Also if you’re playing with TTW you’re doing it wrong!
Anonymous No.725071202 [Report]
Fabio the beloved
Anonymous No.725071710 [Report] >>725074484
Is this thread going to devolve into a sharty schizo posting chad edits of his face?
Anonymous No.725071792 [Report] >>725072228
It’s so strange that tale of two wastelands was never stopped dead. It’s the best mod in existence for fallout
Anonymous No.725072064 [Report]
>>725064475 (OP)
The lack of ADS hurt immersion in first person and honestly I feel like that's what these games should be leaning into way harder. 1st person survival in a post apocalyptic wasteland. A more lighthearted and action focused Stalker but still with plenty of traps and ways to get mulched by random dangers.

I wish Bethesda would stop it with the gimmicks and marketing and just give us a half decent map to explore and some interesting characters and quests to interact with. Maybe get some actually good looking weapon and armor design this time instead of this trademarked scrap crap they keep peddling.
Anonymous No.725072187 [Report] >>725072228
>>725071053
>improves weapon sandbox
>improves gunplay
>improves armor system
>gets the game working on modern systems
>leaves whatever bad shit that lives rent free in your head in the New Vegas portion where it belongs
TTW is the only way to play Fallout 3
Anonymous No.725072228 [Report] >>725072412
>>725071792
>>725072187
It’s objectively the worse way to play Chadout 3 not only do you pollute it with Troonout Neo Vagina but you also miss out on all the badas Basedout 3 mods and instead have to use woke garbage mods by the likes of Kyle Marshiku.
Anonymous No.725072394 [Report] >>725074531 >>725074640
>Theres a designated autist for Fallout now
I really hope this is just going to be for Fallout 3 discussion because I'm sick of all the games I enjoy talking about developing a dedicated schizo who spams garbage.
Anonymous No.725072412 [Report] >>725072708 >>725073072 >>725073271
>>725072228
What exactly does it ruin in the Fallout 3 portion?
Which Fallout 3 mods do you recommend? I never really modded these games besides adding WW2-cold war era guns
Anonymous No.725072708 [Report]
>>725072412
It doesn’t. There’s some way to port fallout 3 mods but they are all trash
Anonymous No.725073024 [Report]
>>725064653
The world design in Fallout 3 is better if you want to play a dungeon crawler. Weapon variety is far worse in Fallout 3, though energy weapons are a bit better because of the Damage Resistance system vs the Damage Threshold system. Still, I can't stand to play either game without TTW these days.
Anonymous No.725073072 [Report] >>725073527
>>725072412
>Which Fallout 3 mods do you recommend?
Here are some good ones
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/3211
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/3402
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/6639
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/15095
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/8747
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/3036
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/4730
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/5630
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/5370
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/10720
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/6394
Anonymous No.725073260 [Report] >>725073387
>>725064475 (OP)
It's a pretty solid game. I think one of the best things of F3 is the art direction. Obsidian took that solid structure and made a great overhaul (New Vegas).
F4 lacks the edge of Fallout 3.
Anonymous No.725073271 [Report] >>725073527
>>725072412
You should get the cut cryolator weapon. Some of the companion mods like for Sydney or Riley are kinda neat. There are some mods that bring back a few cut areas in DC too.
Anonymous No.725073387 [Report]
>>725073260
Fallout 4 leans too into the 50's retro futurism scifi and gets away from the art deco vibe Fallout 3 had. Fallout 3 feels more like the 1930s than the 1950s.
Anonymous No.725073527 [Report] >>725073758
>>725073072
A few of those are gay as fuck but I respect that you replied in good faith. However I won't be playing Fallout 3 again without a mod that does something about the scorpions and mutants added by Broken Steel
>>725073271
Coincidentally TTW adds the cryolator as a blueprint weapon
Anonymous No.725073625 [Report] >>725075605
>>725071053
Mutants aren't demons
Anonymous No.725073758 [Report]
>>725073527
Yeah, it's pretty neat.
>I won't be playing Fallout 3 again without a mod that does something about the scorpions and mutants added by Broken Steel
The Feral Ghoul Reavers are the worst, and make exploring the Metros past level 18 or so pure AIDs.
Anonymous No.725074484 [Report]
>>725071710
It's not a proper Fallout thread otherwise
Anonymous No.725074531 [Report]
>>725072394
>now
You're looking at about six years in the running bro. He lives for this shit.
Anonymous No.725074640 [Report] >>725074778
>>725072394
There's one for Fallout 4 and New Vegas too. Shit, there's one for KotOR I and II. What's next, a Rogue Squadron schizo?
Anonymous No.725074768 [Report]
>>725064475 (OP)
why is everyone who uses "kino" as an adjective a brain-dead retard?
Anonymous No.725074778 [Report]
>>725074640
>What's next, a Rogue Squadron schizo?
Don't jinx it bruv. A schizo is born every day the last you thing that you should be doing is giving them openings to bury themselves in like a tick.
Anonymous No.725074932 [Report]
>>725069105
they probably did it to tie into the whole settlement building gameplay, since you need to build the repair platform and then assemble his parts
Anonymous No.725075605 [Report] >>725075879
>>725073625
Wrong! They’re inhuman monsters bastardisations of god’s perfection and human beauty they are demons that must be cleansed!
Anonymous No.725075879 [Report]
>>725075605
But it wasn't the devil who turned them into mutants. It was the Enclave