Thread 725118580

im about to tactically espionage your ballsack

>>725118580 (OP)
wow MGS2 aged terribly

>>725118858
normies will never accept the fact that SC is superior to japslop MGS

>>725118858
SC1 aged in reverse, pajeeets will study how they did shadows without RT

>>725119273
>"I invented the concept known as shadows" -- John Ubisoftsmith

>>725119273
>that running animation

>>725119273
this was done in UE2
its a genuinely amazing game, with insane tech for the period

>>725119502
Yes and CT was on 2.5

>>725119657
It still blows my mind away how they made lightning flash and thunder sound both actual elements of stealth.

>>725119273
why wont indie games just look like this...

>>725119739
most indie games simply aren't on ps2 level yet

>>725119657
>>725119710
this is lost technology
>>725119790
even AAA cant reach this level of detail anymore

>>725119710
The 3d sparcial audio is also lost technology now, it's fucking insane.

cave no eax
https://files.catbox.moe/fk1fdo.webm

cave EAX
https://files.catbox.moe/9tf0pn.webm

torture no eax
https://files.catbox.moe/g3yhj7.webm

torture EAX
https://files.catbox.moe/28xu5b.webm

>>725119273
Genuinely really impressive. Pearls before swine

>>725120056
Don't forget to add DSOAL with an HTRF config for maximum sound.

[general]
frequency = 48000
channels =
stereo-mode = headphones
sample-type = float32
resampler = sinc ; higher quality resampler than cubic
resampler-quality = 10 ; max quality for sinc resampler
sources = 512
slots = 64
sends = 16
drivers = wasapi, dsound, winmm ; enable Windows audio backends, prioritize WASAPI
period_size = 128
periods = 3
dither = true
dither-depth = 24
output-limiter = true

[hrtf]
enable = true
force = true
name = irc_1033_48000.mhr
mode = full

[reverb]
boost = 10

conviction is fun and I'm tired of pretending it isn't

>>725119273
>>725120081
this is from pandora tomorrow, but they essentially achieved these visuals with clever selective use of baked-in lighting so they could allocate resources for really good shadows when they need them for few characters. nowadays everything has to be real time.

>>725120215
Thanks, will add this to my next playthrogh

>>725120243
its ait
but generally the series went downhill after Chaos Theory

>>725118580 (OP)
Splinter Cell was always the poor man's Metal Gear. Hideo Kojima was a genius who knew how to tell a compelling narrative about Americans and their corruption. Ubisoft didn't get that memo and instead decided to go full "America, Fuck Yeah!" with these propaganda ridden games. Of course, Tom Clancy only exploded in popularity after 9/11, where every American became some zealous patriot, feeding into these games like pigs to slop.

>>725120243
It's fine for what it is. Co-op campaign was some good shit, though.

>>725118580 (OP)
Infiltrating the CIA in that one mission was so fucking cool. i should replay sc1

>>725119273
Now show actual gameplay lol. You won't because SC was always ass.

>>725121150
i just did that one, as a kid it was so fucking cool
as an adult now, having worked in such an office environment its extremely unrealistic, as no office would have that many dark areas
but im not gonna be a nitpicking retard, its still a fun af mission
>>725121105
you're right about the propaganda story, but as a simple espionage game, gameplay wise and tech wise it was fucking kino
mgs has better story but holy shit it gets ultra schizo very fast

>>725118858
It's okay anon, I got the joke.

It blows my mind that spies vs mercs is the one of the best multiplayer modes and ubisoft just lets it die for nothing. They brought back pandora tomorrow on steam with no multiplayer but requires a uplay account.
As bad as double agent was (gen 7 version), the multiplayer was fun unlike the singleplayer. I have no idea how it was for blacklist since the servers are dead.

>>725121526
we played THE SHIT out of it in internet cafes back in the day, just talked to my friend see if we can gather people to play it in Chaos Theory

>>725120549
Works in a bunch of directsound games.
Using it in Tomb Raider Legend at the moment.
If you ever want to run through it again this mod is essential https://www.nexusmods.com/tombraiderlegend/mods/86

>>725121105
I can't believe I used to like this gook. Growing up changes your perspective on things.

>>725122530
kojimbo games are movie schizoslop

>>725120335
>nowadays everything has to be real time
but..but...le progress
now buy up a $2000 GPU so you can play it at 30FPS with fake frames goy

The story sucked through, through and through.

1 was amazing, but too clinical, same as every espionage thriller. PT was extremely forgettable and Chaos Theory absolutely mid.

>>725120335
where's the baked part? those two light sources are real-time and I don't see anything else.

I liked how Sam's walk changes in CT depending on enemy proximity.

>>725124754
I believe what he means is the engine has a stencil map for every possible position the player could be in in that room has has a prebaked shadow map for it, as opposed to calculating rays in real time. I could be talking out my ass though.

>>725119273
>only the TV and whatever else at first cast shadows
>all the lights in the hallway cast no shadows
yeah man, cool tech

>>725119273
>pajeeets will study
kek, no they won't

>>725125593
KEEEEEK

>>725121491
What joke is there to get? That they're both set on tankers? Wow

>>725124779
>>725119710
its the simple things

Any way to get a proper Xbox controller scheme/controls on PC for Splinter Cell 1-3?

And was the OG Xbox version of Double Agent ever ported to PC?

>>725127573
>And was the OG Xbox version of Double Agent ever ported to PC?
Nope.
Easiest way to play it is on an xbox since its backwards compatible.

>>725127573
for the first one use https://github.com/Joshhhuaaa/EnhancedSC
it has improved controller support and scheme

>>725124779
>I liked how Sam's walk changes in CT depending on enemy proximity.
>starts slowly reaching back for his knife as he gets closer
Absolute fucking kino. The interesting thing is it's insanely easy to blend animations like that in unreal with respect to enemies, or anything in the environment really, but CT really is *the* game where the devs went above and beyond with absolutely everything. It still blows my mind that it was not only a great SP game, but a great co-op and PVP game as well. Absolutely one of the best games ever made imo, but you'll never see it on a top ten list.

>>725127872
Yea I dunno how they managed to juggle 3 different things AND make them all good, but they did.

>>725127850
Awesome i'll give that a try, also I just remembered I haven't actually tried SC since Steam added it's really good controller support, so I might actually be able to get something akin to the original analog controls with enough fucking around.

>>725127670
>Easiest way to play it is on an xbox since its backwards compatible.
Unironically did consider buying one of the newer Xbox's second hand just for SC (and probably Crimson Skies MechAssault if they work to)

>>725128203
Costco was selling the Series X for like a hundred bucks a few weeks ago.
But yea, the entire series is BC on any xbox after the 360

>>725128150
>Yea I dunno how they managed to juggle 3 different things AND make them all good, but they did.
It's insane, meanwhile devs these days struggle to put out a functional game doing one thing. PS3/360 era was really the death knell for developers and studios. Crazy to think Ubisoft use to be a god tier studio.

>>725119657
>Sam's animation changes gradually as he gets closer to the guard
CT was pure kino

>>725128361
Sweet, if I can't get a control scheme working on PC that I like i'll grab one. It really is one of those series that makes great use of a proper analog control scheme.

>>725128916
you can also emulate on PC with Xenia

>>725129117
>you can also emulate on PC with Xenia
Not a bad option, especially if it works for DA, it's been a few years since I played around with Xenia, it was a bit shit back then for SC (Tenchu Wrath of Heaven was alright), but might be better now. But honestly a cheap Xbox Series X might cost me less time wise endlessly tweaking an emulator and googling fixes and builds to fix specific issues with specific games which always seems to be the way.

>>725124982
that's definitely not how the shadows work. they are real-time. and I suspect it's shadow volumes, not shadow maps. not sure what you mean by "stencil map", that sounds like a conflation of the two techniques. the stencil map would be the texture in the stencil buffer, something generated at run-time. you couldn't precompute every possible version of it even for just one room in the game, it would be billions of textures kek

>>725129543
*Xemu is what I used years ago, not Xenia, only tried Xenia for Tenchu Z briefly and it was fucked, which is also a shame.

>>725118580 (OP)
You now remember the marketing for this game.
https://youtu.be/jm_sjGgQRNM

>>725129869
Shit got me to buy an xbox, saw the trailer with gameplay and thought it was the coolest shit. That split alone sold it for teenage me

>>725129869
You know remember this from *every* racing game of the era.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6BEkPzstJQ

>>725119273
Why does he have a shadow only in certain rooms?

>>725129869
feel like this shit was use in 90% of game ads kek

>>725130243
because thats how shadows work duh

>>725129730
or xemu ye, havent used xbox emus in a while
but desu SC1 get the GOG edition, you can get if free from either gog-game to or freegogpcgames com
and used the EnhancedSC patch and its absolute kino to play

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQMS39c3ggg
kino