Thread 725137619

Probably the best console in 20 years

>>725137619 (OP)
That’s not saying much

Nah, 360 is good but Steam Deck is better.

>>725137619 (OP)
it was the last time I was excited for a new console

>>725137619 (OP)
>Fucking breaks two months after purchase

>>725137873
Same really

>>725137891
ALLEGEDLY

>>725137619 (OP)
Wii > 360 > 3DS > Wii U >>>>>>>>>>everything else

But mostly this >>725137740

>>725137619 (OP)
The 360 was the beginning of the end for gaming. Everything was casualized and dumbed down for the retard masses.

>>725137619 (OP)
>time to play some games
>WREEEEEEEEEE
>RROD

>>725138126
You literally named PS2, anon. 360 was bringing the final nail in the coffin in perspective

>>725137619 (OP)
>poorfag latino/ghetto crap
>normalized several anti-consumer practices
>unreliable
>lobbies full of retarded and autistic children
>>Probably the best console in 20 years
ok, Pedro

>>725139689
This was such an iconic photo for edits back in the day, so much so that the Halo posters seem fake to me. But no, that's the real image.

>almost 20 years old but not allowed to talk about it on /vr/
>2 threads a year get made here
I love the 360 so much man.
my E model is still stuck in the post alongside a butt load of my game orders so i just have to stare at my PSU, controller and game shelf like a cuck for now.
the best console made. period.

>>725140374
because your old as fuck HD machine isn't retro lol, if you want make a thread yourself. But there's not much to talk about unless you bring up badupdate and the inminent softmod from it... that several retards claimed for years "never ever"

>Resonance of Fate
>Remember me
>NNN
My brother...

remember when valve published a free dlc campaign for L4D2 on steam and wanted to do so for the 360 release but microsoft literally made them charge for it instead ?

>>725140997
motherfucker, if a console being almost 20 years old doesn't clarify it as "retro" you're just in denial of being old yourself.
the first 360 models don't even have HDMI ports dumb dumb.
it IS a retro console whether you like it or not and the people who grew up playing it ARE old enough now to harbor nostalgic feelings for it.

Why can't I play any of the indie games I bought on the indie games store anymore? Even the ones that are still downloaded say that I need to connect to the Xbox Indie game server which has been shut down, that means I can't play. They are not even online games, my money was literally stolen. Lol.

>>725140374
>Lost Odyssey
>Ninety-Nine Nights

>>725141059
iirc they were still using the microsoft point system. it had some thing where it didnt allow free dlc unless it was a certain small

It took a MASSIVE shit on any PlayStation

>>725137619 (OP)
Too loud. Including the slim model.

>>725141407
probably a server error if they were taken offline, i imagine soft-modding your 360 through badupdate would let you play pirated versions of them so it may be the way to go
>>725141476
i haven't played lost odyssey yet but hear it's really good, i wanted to pick up the sequel to Ninety-Nine Nights but it's like $90 in my country now and I cannot be bothered to put in the grunt work to download and copy it to my hard-drive either.

>>725137619 (OP)
Reminder that an Xbox 360 with RGH is the perfect party console you can own right now, you can play anything you want from the 7th gen and emulate every system up to PS1.
>>725140374
I mean there's nothing to discuss about it really, is the perfect console if you just want to sit down and play
>>725139689
>>lobbies full of retarded and autistic children
I'd say more retarded than autistic but that's what made online so fun, just average people playing
>>725141407
It's a known issue, there's a few games that you can't download anymore and I guess it will eventually happen to more games. Ninja Gaiden Black and another one that I can't remember

>>725140997
720p is old school, cope

>>725141206
>it IS a retro console whether you like it or not and the people who grew up playing it ARE old enough now to harbor nostalgic feelings for it.
There's no nostalgia; it's just old, anon. It's time to you to face it, console is an old hardware that relies in every feature modern games do = not retro.

>>725141908
Lost odyssey is one of those FF13 but good games. N3 2 wasn't as good as the first one.

>>725142920
>720p
>old
>When consoles still struggle to reach 900p.

>>725142920
Have you informed the industry

>>725143119
>Lost odyssey is one of those FF13 but good games. N3 2 wasn't as good as the first one.
I didn't even realize it was the original director of final fantasy who made it alongside tracks composed by uematsu.
i was interested in it since it's said to have a decent story and a good rhythm mechanic to it's combat.
for some reason thinking on FF13 just jogged my memory on how fucking weird toriyama was with his obsession over lightning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvA56FNdRs0

>>725142920
>>725143534
Yeah FF16 still uses 720p in 2025.

>>725142961
retro is defined as something that is of a certian style for it's time, which the xbox 360 absolutely is.
you cannot look at pic related and not feel mid 2000's design being screamed directly into your eyes.

>>725143739
>retro is defined as something that is of a certian style for it's time, which the xbox 360 absolutely is.
You do realize your "it's retro" because my nostalgic metric doesn't apply even harder since the 360 went through a style shift into modern styled ones, right? You have nostalgia for it and want it to be on a pedestal it doesn't belong because you're old, everyone gets it but you

>>725143973
>since the 360 went through a style shift into modern styled ones, right?
it still doesn't change the fact the original xbox 360 came out in 2005 and that it was designed with that in mind.
you're telling me microsoft is gay and destroys anything with soul they make ?
that's a new one to me !
again, i would argue the 360 and PS3 ARE distinct enough from modern games and visual design to warrant being considered retro.
I just think people who are even older than me are in denial about being in their late 40's to early 50's now so only THEIR consoles they grew up with are allowed to be retro not yours.

>>725142961
>>>>>There's no nostalgia
what an outrageous lie

>>725144346
>it still doesn't change the fact the original xbox 360
IT'S THE SAME MACHINE and ARCHITECTURE! Stop coping

>again, i would argue the 360 and PS3 ARE distinct enough from modern games and visual design to warrant being considered retro.
because you want to argue about anything. and even then the fucking ps2 looks more futuristic than any current console but that relies from the font they used for the thing, nothing else

>I just think people who are even older than me are in denial about being in their late 40's to early 50's now
no, that seems to be only you (age undetermined)

>>725141206
>NES came out in 1985
>360 came out in 2005
>it is currently 2025
>the same amount of time from the NES to the 360 has passed, from the 360 to now
>the NES was considered retro back then
>even the SNES and N64 were retro in 2005
The 360 is retro.

>>725144486
>nostalgia for a paid online, high resolution, wireless controller console that depends a fair amount of internet, update with the bulk of its games being generic, shallow and completely easy from the 5th generation and prior
I don't think there's people that dumb tbqh and really hope you're not one

>>725145348
>look this metric
>now look this otehr metric
>if you squint this way this other metric makes sense
No. Stuff like NES things were advancing and changing, you're stuck since gen 6 in several matter; even generations last for longer now outside Nintendo.

>>725144593
the internet went through an entire phase of mocking the "brown / piss color" first person shooter genre of 2008 - 2012, this alone to me proves that they do have a distinct RETRO charm to them.
the same with shit like chad warden, doritoe's and mountain dew shitposting and early XBL lobbies.
i've grown tired of this autistic argument, lets agree to disagree anon.
i will post some nostalgic videos of the time instead.
https://youtu.be/vyufDxxWIsM?si=3hrVamGit4oVGygA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF8POaO-9TY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1vmrMAqeWM&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgw2slDfx9Q

>>725145530
>other metric
It's time. Literally the same metric. It's even the same span of time, 20 years.
>even generations last for longer now outside Nintendo.
Oh, I wasn't aware the 360 was still the current Xbox. I figured that was TWO xboxes ago, retard.

everything from ps2 era upwards is the same generic shit repackaged and rehashed over and over, it will never be retro
retro cutoff is ps1 and n64

>>725137619 (OP)
No. It didnt have mgs4, des, dod3, lbp1 and 2, or valkyria chronicles.

It also had paid online, a less impressive catalogue of backwards compatible games, and a significantly higher failure rate.

Decent console, but its mostly just a ps3 with less impressive exclusives

>>725145670
>Literally the same metric. It's even the same span of time, 20 years.
AND
THINGS
HAVE
NOT
CHANGED/IMPROVED
IN BIG
WAYS
SOFTWARE/HARDWARE-WISE

^This what your coping, deluding, ass choose to ignore to force its narrative. Time doesn't determine what you want to think, subjectively, what "retro" is.

>>725145670
>I wasn't aware the 360 was still the current Xbox. I figured that was TWO xboxes ago, retard.
>Xbox One is more prominent than the actual current Xbox
>360's back compat games are the biggest draw of Xbox to this day

>>725145936
>"it doesn't count because I don't like it"
A nintendo DS is retro to kids these days. The DS was from one year before the 360.
Just because you didn't like the... amount of polygons added between the 360 to the Sex doesn't matter for anyone else. Because luckily, they are not you and never will be.

>>725147131
>A nintendo DS is retro to kids these days. The DS was from one year before the 360.
The only thing you're confirming is people being retarded enough using the word "retro" out of their asses to their advantage.

>just because y-you didn't like
I like all those systems and games from them just fine. Your old shit isn't retro because you need that tag to glorify old shit, anon

>STOP GATE KEEPING BEING OLD
when youre actually old, youll realize larping as being old is just a waste of youth. Whatever, you dont have much longer anyway, your generation ages fast. Ive known women in their 30s that looked young than these zoomer women on tiktok. Tick tock indeed.

>>725147737
>The only thing you're confirming is people being retarded enough using the word "retro" out of their asses
I literally posted the definition of retro. You are not the arbiter of what is retro. And you never will be.
>Your old shit isn't retro because you need that tag to glorify old shit, anon
"Glorified old shit" IS THE DEFINITION OF RETRO.
The 360 is glorified old shit!

>>725137619 (OP)
I hated the original Xbox but 360 is in my top 5 all time consoles, that's a testament to its power

>>725143739
>retro is defined as something that is of a certian style for it's time
That style has barely changed in almost 20 years.

>>725148419
>I hated the original Xbox
Why?

>>725149281
Top right looks the same as the bottom two but gay. Is gay a style? Is that retro?

>>725148394
>I literally posted the definition of retro
*my definition of retro

>>725149713
That's from Oxford, fuccboi.
Shit your pants all you want, I can't smell it from here.

>>725148394
Just old shit, it's glorified to you because you may have nostalgia over it. Retro is define by design paradigms; that paradigm has been present since the early 00s and features are still prevalent to this day. This is why /vr/ rejects Gen 6 as retro, even with mods forcing the issue, with barely any thread about it hanging there gaining traction aside isolated cases.

>>725149760
Your next joke is saying the RAE is any institution for language.

>>725148394
It's easy to know what's retro because it's on retroachivement
the 360 already had achievements so it's not retro

>>725149894
>Retro is define by design paradigms;
No, it's not. Using uncommon words won't make you sound smarter when your point is retarded.
Retro is defined by older things that people glorify.

>>725150131
PS3 and RPCS3 will be on there within 5 years, probably 360 and xenia too

>>725149894
>Retro is define by design paradigms
Not like people who started with the PS360 era would know what that is. For all they know, the amount of monetization is a massive change between console generations.

>>725150229
Yes, it is. Even >>725143739 agrees and his point is built around visuals over the susbtance of game design.

>>725150287
>Retroachievement
pant on heads retarded, cheevos aren't important let alone slapping them on old games.

>retroachievemtens but for 360/ps3
... actually; there's good room for this. They could fix the achievement "system" when it lost its novelty and became "jump 1000 times"

>>725150287
>Implying those trannies won't have killed themselves over pokemon clover by then

>>725150330
>"this random anon agrees with me, seeeEEE?!!"
Good job, idiot. Want me to just google Retro Definition again and post from another dictionary?

>>725150324
>Not like people who started with the PS360 era would know what that is
Doesn't matter much since the PS360 era is the 6th gen but shittier. We only have shitty practices added every new gen with no real change since then. And I say this as someone tha loves some IPs born in the 7th generation.

>>725150485
>muh dictionary
Ah, yes; the very relevant place where your made up buzzword can "suddenly" being enabled. Might as well post from the rolling stone, r&r hall of fame or Time magazine since you seem to be that stupid.

>>725140374
i have like 4x as many 360 games as you and the only one we have in common is bad company 2.

>>725150660
>the very relevant place
... do you think dictionaries aren't relevant sources for definitions of words?

>instead of posting 360 games they like or generally talking about aspects of the 7th gen they enjoyed anons will piss slap fight as if they are on /vr/
i dont know why i expected different.
every thread that isn't a twitter / reddit screencap or ragebait headline seems doomed to pointless off-topic arguments.

>>725137619 (OP)
switch is the best console since the ps2

>>725151103
Do you think places that add terms like "selfie" and newer degradations of the language are any relevant source for definitions? At all?!

>>725151194
you can always count with zoomies thinking retro = old to shit up any given thread

>>725150959
a testament to how many games there are, plus i only started buying them last month.
not pictured are:
>blue dragon
>condemned II
>shadows of the damned
>spec ops the line
>nier
>FFXIII 2 + lightning returns
i also want to pick up killer is dead if i can get it for less than $30.

>>725151285
>"it doesn't count because of modern internet additions"
So if I take a picture of my physical 2002 copy of Webster's Dictionary and its definition of "retro," will you shut up?

I don't understand people that like xbox. To me they're like aliens.
There isn't a single thing I want to play on any xbox, aside from xtreme beach volleyball. Zero appeal.

>>725151635
Well, its for people who like games. You wouldnt get it, snoy

>>725151635
>ran all multiplats better than PS3, because of PS3's bad architecture
>multiplats often came out a year sooner, because of PS3's bad architecture
>was THE shooter console, with first party properties like Halo and Gears back when they were good, as well as all of those multiplats before crossplay existed
I guess if you didn't like shooter games, you wouldn't care. If you were more into rpgs you'd like the japanese systems more.

>>725151635
it certianly had more games than the PS3 and its emulation is still crap so anything exclusive to it will play much bettee on a original console.
i just like it because its dirt cheap and has lots of cheap good gamea.

its pretty much the hd version of the ps2

>>725151604
No, you'd still be retarded enough to think old institutions are any relevant in modern times. Protip: they are as relevant as monarchies or the news

>>725151789
>If you were more into rpgs you'd like the japanese systems more.
i never understood this either.
the 360 got a lot of exclusive JRPG's at the time and got exclusive home releases of CAVE's schmup's.
it even had the mainline final fantasy release of the time alongside weeb fighting games like DoA + beachball.
its the most japanese microsoft got and i personally think it has more to offer a weeb than the PS3.

>>725151789
Why would I play shooters on a console? Bad ones too
725151835
1 good game is better than 1 million bad games.

>>725152024
>"Nobody's definitions are real except my own. No, not your 'my own.' Just only MY own!"
Okay, so now words have zero consistent meaning. Got it. I can see I am talking to a babbling retard, who coincidentally is typing words commonly used in dictionaries.

>>725151635
hey, man. og and 360 were worthy. the only ones in the end but worthy enough

>choosing ps3 over 360

>>725152076
This, the 360 was the weeb console
nogamefags were butthurt about Vesperia for over a decade too

>>725152184
for real.
its not until you start looking at its catalogue that you realise how heavy it leaned into weeb releases in the west.
outside of shit like disgeae and drakengard 3 i struggle to think of comparable PS3 titles that werent multiplats.

>>725152139
>Okay, so now words have zero consistent meaning.
No, you fucking idiot; definitions born under the age of internet are moot and used by the language institutions to remind people they still exist. Literal memeing. Like the faggot selling retro as a flat metric of time when the context he's trying to sell it hasn't changed in such level yet... and doesn't seem to for at least another decade. That's disregarding your blatant sarcastic tone, mind you.

>>725151789
>multiplats often came out a year sooner, because of PS3's bad architecture
>Fallout New Vegas
>on PS3
Imagine there were people that legit chose ps3

>>725140374
>>almost 20 years old but not allowed to talk about it on /vr/
And that's a good thing. The retro games board doesn't need even more cancer from kids getting nostalgic over GTA V and Dark Souls II.

>>725152443
Okay, and I offered a definition from a book that's (from the sounds of it) older than you are. From before the internet dictated definitions.
And you still said it doesn't count. So you just don't accept anything.

anyone played this?

>>725152146
DeS and DaS. MGS4. Uncharted. It was the obvious choice.

>>725152885
Sure did, it was jank and goofy but super fun.
Doesn't really feel like a stealth game though

>>725152924
DeS I'll give you.
DaS was multiplat.
MGS4 could be watched on youtube, even at the time.
Uncharted was Gears but worse.
You should have said something like Little Big Planet.

>>725152885
nope but its on the list of shit to pick up.
there are quite a few FROMsoftware titles on the 360.

>>725152924
>1 exclusive and 2 movies
Jesus christ this is sad

>>725152861
>And you still said it doesn't count.
yes, and this extends to every single word since the existing of a definition, cold on paper, doesn't translate in the execution of the everyday use and degradation of language that became so usual with the internet. Specially because they don't reflect reality due being affected by other perspecetives.

>So you just don't accept anything.
And you too; universal rule you forgot: always doubt the authority, never believe anything.

>>725139689
>>lobbies full of retarded and autistic children
But that was the fun part though

>>725138281
Kek

>>725153163
>we're now at the point where all definitions ever don't count, even though you argued definitions earlier
You cannot be reasoned with.
You are unreasonable.
>And you too
I posted a dictionary definition and offered to post more. I accepted those. You have yet to cite where your definition came from.

>>725152924
Halo 3, Gears of War, Doritos,chromehounds, Dead Rising and Viva Pinata. PS3 sucked hard mate

>>725137847
For whatever reason, I read that as...
>Stealth Deck

>>725153281
Man Dead Rising was peak next gen
>Super crisp graphics
>Tons of stuff on screen
>Can interact with and use almost everything
>Can only imagine how good gaming will be if this is the new standard
Fun times

>>725153276
>I posted a dictionary definition and offered to post more. I accepted those.
Your mistake is disregarding the prospect of said definitions not being able to be applied properly to the reality. Halo 5 is just like Halo 3 but worse in execution; no real change but added use of the prior's features. External factors trample upon definitions, it's quite common, you chose read the book and be limited by it even if the book may not be that functional anymore.

>You have yet to cite where your definition came from
reality. that thing where gaming hasn't changed dramatically besides adding number to polygon count.

>>725153020
>>725153131
>DaS was multiplat.
DaS was limited exclusive. People forget that. Also no one played on Xbox.

>>725153570
>Your mistake is disregarding the prospect of said definitions not being able to be applied properly to the reality.
Okay so you just... admitted you're wrong. No definitions are real, now.
Thanks, we're done here. 360 is retro, since I apparently can't misuse a term ever!

>>725153020
>Uncharted was Gears but worse.
HAHAHAHA
Gears is for edgelord 14 year olds

>>725153281
Zero appeal. Games for Americans.

>>725153736
>DaS was limited exclusive
Only in Japan. So unless you're japanese, it came out at the same time.

>>725153556
probably still the best zombie game ever made as well

>>725137619 (OP)
It had a cool controller and the ability to install games is cool. And that's honestly the whole appeal. It still wouldn't even make my top 10 consoles list.

>>725153802
>No definitions are real, now.
Never were. You're the only one here making the mistake taking the bible as literal. You can pretend you wo---

>360 is retro, since I apparently can't misuse a term ever!
That was fast. at least you seem to be aware your angle is poor.

>>725153898
Dead Rising is a Japanese game, anon. Same with Chromehounds.

>>725154426
>You're the only one here making the mistake
Woah, there pal. You just spent like 30 posts making a mistake disregarding the prospect of said definitions not being able to be applied properly to the reality!
You claimed your definition of "retro" was right, but unfortunately, your false definition can't be applied in reality.
Oops!

>>725154548
I don't have a definition of retro.

Nah PS3, it's GOAT now with all the CFW and overclocks.

>>725154606
Did it fix the poor framerate on games?

>>725154583
Then how could you say that someone else's was wrong.
lmao idiot

>>725154675
>retro=old retard when he hits a wall that can't demonize

>>725154819
See, you're claiming a definition is wrong again. But you don't know what definition is right, so how can you know that someone else's is wrong?
You're just disingenuous. You got backed into a corner and have no argument. You lost.

>>725154606
If you want solid framerates then emulate. I don't think overclocking a system with considerable temperature troubles to begin with does any favors for its lifespan.

>>725154881
this will shock your autism; not being biased towards a specific angle allows people to see things in perspective.

>>725154502
Zombies are quintessentially american slop.

>>725153898
>Zero appeal. Games for Americans.
this but unsharted and mgs 4(movegamesimulator4)

>>725145936
people who say this have either not played a 360 game or have not played modern games because i sure as fuck didnt have to spend half my yearly income on 360 era microtransactions just to play whatever live service game

>>725149281
so by this metric anything post 1994 isnt retro since i can just post 4 fps games from psx, ps2, ps3 and ps4

>>725137619 (OP)
This broken piece of shit had a disastrous failure rate. It also had paid online and normalized all the shitty business practices we see today. Of course you like this garbage.

>>725151635
I, like you, was an ignorant snoy until I tried the 360. Was pretty damn cool and multiplats always ran better on the 360. I missed out a lot on that gen the PS3 was only good for exclusives it was shit at everything else

>>725137619 (OP)
If you liked dudebro shooters then yeah, it had some of the definitive and unironic best examples.
Also not counting the first couple years of shitte console manufacturing leading to FAR too many malfunctions.
Best controller outside of the D-pad too, which finally got fixed this current gen.

>>725157502
it has the best shmup library of all time and plays all of the big 3 action games (bayo, ninja gaiden 1 black, dmc3) natively
also has lots of niche japan only titles that no one paid attention to

>>725158065
the XBLA was also awesome with its free demo for every single game.

>>725156546
In the 90s people played:

Horror games
Stealth games
Puzzle games
Rpgs
Fighting games
Platformers

All you guys have had for 20 years is fps

>>725156875
Das and ffxiii are better on ps3. And i cant think of anything worse on ps3 than 360 other than sonic 06 and vanilla marvel vs capcom 3.

>>725138126
It was the integration of Xbox Live that really killed it. Seamless online capability is what killed console gaming.

>>725156546
the average fps played very differently betwen eras
meanwhile the foundantion set by cod4 hasn't changed since it came out, only things around like game modes

>>725137619 (OP)
The console itself was mediocre, it was carried by the kino games and a kino online community of chuds

>>725139689
As if PS3 lobbies werent full of retarded niggers

>last 20 years
Less than 3 weeks left on that one.

>>725159505
>>725159816
holy cope

>>725137619 (OP)
>RRoD
>Front page plastered in ads
>Pay a monthly subscription to use your own internet
>Online store points only sold in intervals so you had to overpay

We didn't know how shitty we had it bros

>>725137619 (OP)
I was an idort who owned every 7th gen console at some point while they were new. The PS3 was the best one. Once it got gaems, it had so much more to offer than the 360 unless you were an XBL MW2/Halo kiddo. Also has the best backwards compatibility of any console ever made (The 7th gen was unique in that every manufacturer actually tried outdoing each other on that front)

>>725159797
Consoles were an aberration that only had a use case for 2 generations. Before gen 6, arcade > console. After gen 7, PC > console. Even if online was free, PC > console. Porting everything in higher quality to PC is what killed consoles.

>>725160293
you forgot that the point system let you skip taxes and at most you were left with 2 bucks worth of points in your wallet
I want to go back

>>725147737
Fucking retard, A TWO-SCREEN TOUCH SCREEN, of course it's fucking retro, it's not just old, THOSE GAMES AREN'T MADE ANYMORE. It's of a design philosophy that doesn't fucking exist now.

>>725151239
Switch 2 is on its way to being the greatest console of all time.

>>725161662
it's the ps5 of nintendo.
>no reason to buy
>no games
>shitty for modding
>status symbol for normies
>carried by backwards compatibility

>>725162032
biggest library, best control options, portable & home console, great exclusives,

>>725163035
>its a steam deck
meds

>>725163305
take the meds