Thread 725173003

>/v/: opposes the pleasure cube
>also /v/: plays video games which are just a less efficient version of the pleasure cube
The fuck?

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So? There's no contradiction there.

I am so not opposed to the pleasure cube my man

>>725173003 (OP)
It just seems very boring, may as well get ejected into space.
>Eventually anon ceased to think

>>725173003 (OP)
The "pleasure cube" is very different from selective entertainment. You're asking why some people will read a book yet abstain from meth.

>>725173003 (OP)
Wait the pleasure cube is actually out? Where can I buy one?

CUUUUUUUBEEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG6koCT0-Bk

>>725173003 (OP)
I pleasure cube as much as I can and it's had some disastrous results but it's still not stopping me. The only reason I'm not cubed out of my gourd right now is because I limit my spending

>>725173003 (OP)
I don’t oppose the pleasure cube.

>>725174583
ugh this shitty game's marketing is so blatantly artificial

>>725173003 (OP)
The VR pods from Matrix are more efficient than that shit. No need to produce millions of gallons of this shit, just electricity And it takes less space.
The movie had to make up a retarded excuse so that the Matrix was a shitty realistic modern world but humans would be perfectly happy in custom perfect worlds.

>>725174915
>Matrix was a shitty realistic modern world but humans would be perfectly happy in custom perfect worlds.
I think they said the computer considered the 90's the peak of human civilization and happiness. They were right

>>725174803
>marketers could be here
>I hate marketers
>with an adblocker you can visit any website you want

>>725175052
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qs3GlNZMhY
>I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through misery and suffering...
>...which is why the Matrix was redesigned to this: the peak of your civilization.
Implying the peak of misery and suffering. Which is also wrong, the 90s were better than now or the industrial revolution, but you can imagine many better worlds for humans.

what

>>725173003 (OP)
im a moderate

more of a fan of the Breeding Cube myself
all White women must go into the Breeding Cube and birth 15 Aryan children each MINIMUM
thoughts? :)

>>725173003 (OP)
This stupid shit reminds me of that metamorphosis hentai manga. Everyone always says "OMG SO SAD :(" when like, why? She asks for everything in that manga that gets done to her. Seriously out right ASKS. Just like girl in OPs pic WILLING gets in the cube.
I struggle to have sympathy for anyone who creates their own problems. I mean, its what they want, so really, good for them. They don't deserve or want sympathy, just congratulate them instead

>>725174915
>The movie had to make up a retarded excuse so that the Matrix was a shitty realistic modern world but humans would be perfectly happy in custom perfect worlds.
Most humans choose the most bland and inauthentic defaults when observed.
There's probably a sub-section of the Matrix that's actually cool off to the side somewhere, but most people chose "90s dystopian, stale office world" because it was the first one in the alphanumerically ordered list and they didn't want to seem weird and show up in "Gay furry world" with Dave from accounting and no one else.

put me in the suffering cube

>>725176309
You're already in it

>>725175504
I think it's implied that the matrix seen in the movies has pain and suffering to mimic the real world, not that it has maximum suffering.

>>725173003 (OP)
there i value in something that is real
vidya is not a substitute for anything but a form of stimulation

>>725173003 (OP)
Drugs, human trafficking and the modern day version of slavery without human rights are managed by Israel. You don't get to enjoy substances without being treated as a subhuman, raped, and having the CUC.K jewish pseudogod pathetically trying to destroy who you are

>>725173003 (OP)
Its the loss of independancy and control that makes it scary for people you retards.

>>725176873
Loss the illusion of it you mean, because nobody but 0.1% billionaires has either right now.

>>725175081
>milk is more expensive than gas
Those were the days

>>725176854
This is the only reply that matters in this bot mossad owned web
>>725173003 (OP)

>>725176271
>There's probably a sub-section of the Matrix that's actually cool off to the side somewhere, but most people chose "90s dystopian, stale office world"
There's no choice involved, everyone got put inside the same world. Why would anyone get their own separate world? You're one of millions of tiny batteries, not worth the trouble. The logical conclusion of the "90s dystopian, stale office world" being settled on is that's the kind of society humanity made for itself, making it the easiest to emulate and control the people within it.

>>725176873
You can get out whenever you want though

>>725173003 (OP)
Efficiency is overrated.

>>725176354
>not using them as glorified CPUs

>>725176854
>NOOOOOOOO WE JUST WANTED TO KILL NON-MUSLIMS

>>725173003 (OP)
I wanna affect the outside world from the comfort of my cube

My God atheists and brown people live in such a hellish reality

>>725179189
>atheists and brown people
so you just mean everyone?

>>725179239
>we dont believe in gott here in germany!

I will never be walking in the woods, listening to the pleasure cube OST and ponder the pleasure cube's third chapter, reaching a new realization.

>>725179274
>germany
>not brown people

>>725179307
>your random third world neighbor
>not germany
same shit

Which is worse off? An ethnostate of Jews or an ethnostate of Muslims?

>>725179389
>posts a mutt
lmao

>>725173003 (OP)
If the pleasure cube can let me experience having a loving girlfriend then I'm not opposed to it at all

>>725173003 (OP)
Don't sleep through dreams that can come true

>>725178423
Yes that has been pretty much the angle (((they))) have been going over during this GENOCIDE like the GENOCIDE they put the canaanites and the GENOCIDE they attempted on the Romans, Europeans and USA. I would've believed that they only wanted to GENOCIDE muslims, but, after being RAPED with lysergic, bath salts, and spending YEARS TORTURED and attempting to destroy my personality all because I'm not a consoomer and I love my waifu.... Kinda hard to believe RAPIST GENOCIDERS, you know?

>>725179840
take em come on bud what are you doing? your mom is worried

>>725179903
medication for judaism?

>>725179389
>Only germans are aryans and have a racial identity for us to destroy, everyone else is a 'latino' and a golem mutt without identity (like the Romans that we attempted to GENOCIDE)
I see jew
>>725179629
Lmao you broke the amerigolem

>>725180071
>440 people died
some genocide lol

>>725177127
What kind of dogshit milk do you buy? The decent stuff is definitely way more expensive than gas.

whats so wrong about the pleasure cube? Is there some implicit clause that you can't go out once you're in? Cause if not then its all upside

>>725180234
you're given a key so you should be able to leave
I'd rather a simulation instead of being injected with green stuff since that can connect to a drone or something for remote piloting

>>725180234
Because it only bothers to show the perspective of someone satisfied with life. The same reason why The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas only works on middle schoolers and upper class fucks with no problems. A lower class would take the pleasure cube and get rid of poverty for the implied suffering or loss of anatomy

>>725180234
you can just od on fent any time you want anon
be my uncle and kill yourself like a retard

>>725180389
you don't understand the pleasure cube

I want to seal my enemies in the pleasure cube so I never have to deal with them

>>725180389
You can come down on Fent and you can’t be fed with it. The only reason Fent is bad is because it’s not strong enough. It’s half a pleasure cube without the cube part

>>725180071
noooo not the 440 gorillion desert orcs that would have become welfare burdens, jihadists and child groomers in pathologically tolerant western countries, what a loss to humanity ;_;

>>725180234
Even if you could leave, would you want to? It's a gilded cage, by entering it you become a slave to it.

>>725181165
yes? Do your loved ones just stop existing once yo go in or smth

>>725181165
At no point in your life have you not been a slave.

>>725182090
They may as well not exist to you anymore. What do you, a slave to pleasure need them for?

>>725182253
Yes, and?

>>725178186
>just wake up from anesthesia bro

>>725173003 (OP)
>imagine you have a really cool VR headset
>but we made the walls gray, the room dark and added some other unnecessary horseshit
Wow, scary.

the only problem with the pleasure cube is that i simply do not believe there isn't a catch to it, i have lived long enough to know that anything that promises "eternal pleasure" will end up being pain and suffering

>>725173003 (OP)
As it is with almost everything, balance is the answer. Balance between pleasure and any non-pleasure and balance between high contrast (between states of pleasure and non-pleasure) and no-contrast. Just as almost every radical "logical conclusion" attempts to enforce anything pleasurable will end up in crossing "i like it" zone eventually. Streamlining, simplifying, hardcoring, speeding up, slowing down etc - once you go past the border you get things that you wouldn't like. Only retards and marketologists will keep pushing "cool popular feature" until it is no longer fun just because they think, that always moving toward the same direction is the same thing as making a thing better - which is wrong. To make thing better you have to balance, to keep proportions, to fine-tune things at much smaller scale than initially.

I wish I was the one given the choice and not them.

>>725182865
the catch is your brain is not designed to support "eternal pleasure"
release of dopamine in your brain is a signal something went better than expected : you can't make everything better than expected forever without collapsing the system itself

>>725183452
You can, because the system is just designed to optimize your dopamine
If you can afford infinite meth, you won

I am a hedonist not because I think pleasure is the best but because it's the best alternative to 0 social mobility

>>725186920
Reasonable.
We live in a society.

>>725176854
Muh naqba muh 14,000 gazaillion starving babies, y we can't just kill people with no consequences?

>>725179189
You do realize heaven is literally a supernatural version of the pleasure cube, right?
>NOOOOOOOOOO THAT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE...BECAUSE GOD SAYS SO OK?

>>725189915
the thing that bothers an average theist the most about pleasure cube is the lack of punishment for people they dislike, they wouldn't get to revel in the eternal suffering of others

>>725189915
Only mohammedan heaven is like that

>>725173003 (OP)
>>/v/: opposes the pleasure cube
This never happened.

>>725173003 (OP)
If the Pleasure Cube is so great why isn't there a Pleasure Cube 2?

>>725189915
Atheism is just the refuge for the intellectually lazy. I wanna seem smart without doing any thinking at all.

"Going to heaven" is achieved by having an active relationship with Jesus. you musk seek him out. You're not cumming all the time. Its never been sold as the easy path.

Pleasure cube is basically what a fentanyl zombie's daily life is like. Rotting away but too fucked up for their deadened nerves to communicate the level of destruction their bodies are enduring. They might as well have never been born.

All this reddit edgy 2010's atheism always comes from the most timid nerd manchild. You'd think yuo were talking to some hardcore hedonist whos sniffing coke out of a whores asshole but its just some fat nerd playing videogames. Faggots like you are wasting your lives doing absolutely nothing. It comes as no suprise youd envy being high 24/7 yet youre too timid and chickenshit to actually commit to it.

>>725193335
You seem upset.

>>725180071
>(((The good guys))) literally defending children murder
>>725180219
Those are only the ones you murdered by not allowing them any food, rabbi, not the ones with their limbs torn off, burnt to death, nor the women (and men) raped or suffering sexual abuse or lessening of their human dignity And it's an old image
>>725180618
Blablablahblah, spare me the fearmongering when you've been the one feeding them hate, using them as a racial tension tool while persecuting them since before 1960, giving them the hate, weapons and religious beliefs to sustain a profitable war, and especially when you're the actual menace that will RAPE and ABUSE people in Europe and the USA out of their Human Rights assuming zero accountability. There's always budget and millions of dollarinos for that, huh? Hollywood, and abusing anyone that you 'rule' over. Being able to break them is another thing, no matter how much money or 'power' your racist tribe thinks you got

>>725193774
Non-drawn version of the HUMAN SACRIFICES for cuc-kveh

>>725173003 (OP)
The irony is that we only value exploration anyway so we can find more places to build pleasure cubes

>>725180618
>orcs
I thought your people believed in interracials, multiculturality, and anything that opposes racism and bigotry? That's what you've been preaching through your authors and propaganda over 100 years now. The "Melting Pot", was it? Why are you being so fascist now that those 'orcs' want to enter YOUR country?

>>725173003 (OP)
I think it's pretty telling that artists always need to include heroin needles and brainwashing head gear. That way they can just emotionally manipulate the audience instead of addressing the ACTUAL intellectual thought behind it: Do people *actually* care that their sensations and experiences are real?

A steelmaned depiction of the pleasure cube would be a cozy home with a tasteful interior and a magic couch that immerses you if you sit on it, and you're free to leave any time.
All the superheroin / drooling brainwashing depictions just scream of insecurity to me.

Our modern pleasure cube analogies, like adverts, parasocial emulations of real relationships, smart phones and AI, don't have the spooky form factor, and people are flocking to it in droves.
Which I think kind of provides a meta commentary: People feel the need to depict the pleasure cube as scary, because they already know it's the only real thing that would turn people off it.

I think it's commendable to push back, but sidestepping the intellectual point with emotional manipulation is just peak midwit behavior.

>/V/
>plays videogames
lol
rumao

>>725193335
You accuse others of being intellectually lazy yet you (most likely intentionally) misrepresent what is actually being said.
No one said anything about the path to heaven, but heaven itself is very much like the pleasure cube, and no amount of coping can change that

it's frankly embarrassing that no one has mentioned this but if /v/ is willing to defend gen AI(and it is) some of you will 100% sign yourselves up for a hypothetical pleasure cube knowing full well all the implications. humanity is so broken

>>725193839
>>725194227
>dead terrorists
Based!

>>725195084
October 7th was a great day, indeed. Lots of rapists and genociders faded away to hell

>>725173003 (OP)
the pleasure cube requires upkeep OP. there's no such thing as a free lunch

>>725180618
you're the ones who sent them to the first world and opened the castle's doors so they'd walk in unimpeded

>>725194291
>>725194817
Artist who draws rape and hypnosis (drugs) doujins just casually pretending that the one part of current hyperrealism that is 'bad' is le AI spotted.
Define real. Who tells me that your shitty doujins and inflation/mind control/degenerate art is real, and the AI gens aren't? Are you?

>>725174915
Yeah Matrix was bullshit.
In reality they would make it some mythological high fantasy world and humans would LOVE that shit.
A lot of humans don't even really try to make something of their life because the best possible reward is just having a lot of money, which isn't actually interesting.

>>725185703
Except the dopamine receptors in your brain will eventually become desensitized to overstimulation. It's what happens with heroin addicts. Heroin releases something like 2000x more dopamine than an orgasm. After a certain point you're no longer doing heroin to feel good. Feeling good is out the window. You take it to not feel like shit because your brain is shot full of holes.

>>725173003 (OP)
>v is one retard
I'm another retard and I'm all for the coom cube
Give it to me NOW

>>725174491
Meth is harmful and expensive. The cube is none of those things. Everyone currently on meth would pick the cube if it was offered.

>>725195642
Palirats are tough when murdering women and children but get sent to hell quick when real soldiers show up, so quick people call it a "genocide"

>>725198790
You dropped more bombs on Gaza in 6 months than the US dropped on the entirety of Iraq during the Iraq war. You've indiscriminately bombed hospitals and civilian centers, baselessly claiming there were terrorists there. You've sniped civilians attempting to get aid from aid shipments, and sent in a booby trapped aid truck for the sole purpose of killing civilians. Even now the only violator of the cease fire has been Israel. How anyone could possibly be behind you and Netanyahus ploy to keep himself out of prison is a mystery. And despite all this and the mountain of other evidence against you, you still have the gall to call anyone that points these out an antisemite. Are the antisemites running the red cross or the UN?

>>725173003 (OP)
>/v/: plays video games
Worse, /v/ spends time arguing about games they don't play. Your dopamine is getting (You)s on 4chan from a successful ragebait and so is mine

I hate the pleasure bube comic because it is just clear the "writer" got off to the girl being drugged and strapped to the chair in the pleasure cube.

>>725197914
>Permanently sitting on a couch is not harmful
Enjoy your sores and blood clots

>>725176873
Yeah the alternative is a 9-5 to survive and having a few hours outside of work to have "fun"
Woah so cool! The pleasure cube sounds horrible! Life is awesome !

>>725201414
Don’t forget hemorrhoids.

>>725173003 (OP)
Assuming all sorts of nanomachines and mind altering chemicals were involved in addition to the pure pleasure and you got to live an extraordinarily blissful and exciting adventure in total lucidity with best companions ever, it might not be that bad.
>your brain will fry
Well yeah that's why the magic juice also needs to mend or protect your brain from degration.

>>725197914
>The cube is none of those things
it is both things

>>725202731
that's not how it works : your neurons have a "memory" and keeping this state functional would require you to effectively reset your brain each time, which effectively means death
basically groundhog day but you're not bill murray

the magic juice doesn't fix shit : it's like you're removing the brakes from a car and assuming it's gonna keep running forever now

>>725176873
Let's see you wake up from the dream called life if you're so in control, then.

>>725173003 (OP)
We hate video games so of course we oppose the pleasure cube.

>>725173003 (OP)
This comic sorts glossed over whether or not the world outside the pleasure cubes are still worth living, because at the current rate pleasure cubes are looking tempting and it's clear there's no changing course.

>>725173003 (OP)
is the cube morally wrong or right? I think it depends on how self-sufficient we can make it. How well it will work without any sort of manual maintenance or repair, how "eternal" it will be if you will. Assuming it is eternal and will keep us as a species alive for ever, it will be the end of all suffering and the beginning of eternal and absolute bliss for everyone alive. It will be menmade heaven.
But if we fail to make it eternal, if it is prone to malfunction or if there is a chance it can stop working altogether, then it will lead to our extinction in the case of the latter, and even worse in the case of former. Malfunction could turn it into hell. It will still keep us alive forever, but will make us endure unthinkable suffering and torment.
It all hinges on how capable we are of making it perfect, and I mean perfect, absolute, were the only thing possibly destroying it would be the death of the universe itself.

>>725204452
That's what your neurons tell you fag.

>>725173003 (OP)
we just think that the pleasure cube is not that pleasurable, anon

>>725173003 (OP)
>we
not true at all
i think all normies should be locked up in a soviet style block and kept drugged up until they expire. the world would be a much better place and you'd never have to deal with a "DUUUUDE WEEEED" faggot again.

>>725194291
>Do people *actually* care that their sensations and experiences are real?
Yes. Frankly I'm tired of this psychiatric comfort blanket for midwits where they just believe everyone around them is a stupid drone who shares nothing in common with them, the enlightened intellectual. The fact of the matter is you share a lot, you have parity with them. Even if you're a genuinely intelligent person who can do rocket surgery, there's still enough of you otherwise that remains equal to those normalfags you look down upon. You don't hate normalfags. You don't hate them inherently. You are, in too many ways to describe, on the same level as them. What you actually hate is how they've been tricked and what they believe is true. You hate that lie and who tricked them.

>>725175504
No, that's not what he was implying. The AI just reduced the utopia, because the initial Matrix was too good to be true, a sort of an endless abundance where everything went right for everyone, so humans began to go insane as a result of it because our evolved hunter-gatherer brain definitely is not meant to handle lives completely and utterly devoid of any discomfort. So they dialed it down to the 90's, which was working perfectly fine.

>>725176354
>That comic

>>725206728
>sadism
>dehumanization
>disembodiment
I'm not really into the last part but the other two are nice

>>725199584
I dont believe any of these sandniggers arent colluding to keep USA money flowing
If a president said "no more aid to the Middle East" and somehow was not assassinated, you would see all their little wars end instantly

>>725206516
No, I do hate the normalfaggots. Spare me your useless preaching.
>t. trilingual genius IQ range technician

>>725207090
Cant be too smart if you couldnt read a paragraph and realize he addresses you

>>725207090

Every mutt on Earth can speak at least two languages, the fact that you included that as if it's a mark of intelligence leads me to believe you're incredibly stupid.

>>725207392
I only speak English. Why would I need to speak anything else?

>>725194489
>>725193536
See? Only retarded replys with zero thought and effort put in them.

>No one said anything about the path to heaven, but heaven itself is very much like the pleasure cube
No you retard. Thats heaven isnt a reward for being a good boy. You people understand nothing about the religion you hate. In fact, its an even deeper misunderstanding: You have a hollow life so the pleasure cube is desireable, but to anyone thats earnestly living a Christian life the pleasure cube is not desireable.

Key differences:
- Theres no effort in the pleasure cube. Theres no spiritual journey nor growth. Youre just handed everything you want. Thats not what heaven is.
- The pleasure cube is a lie. An illusion, while heaven is eternal and the highest reality. Youre not fooling yourself.
- The pleasure cube is a prison of sin while heaven is the ultimate freedom from sin. You're not cumming all the time in heaven, youre in the company of God and Jesus who love you. This isnt the same as sticking a needle in your arm you disingenuous faggot. Its more like the feeling of happiness to be surrounded by your family and feeling like everything is perfect. Im sure youve felt that once or twice. Its not the same as a dose of morphine. Morphine might even feel better, but no one, even actual retards, would tell you that they'd rather live on the streets fucked up on morphine and crack than with a loving family.

You people arent some smarty pants for being edgy redditors. Youre just dumb. You havent read the Bible nor are you aquainted with philosophy in general. Your arguments are vacuous and betray a life that was spend masturbating and consuming slop. You try and present yourselves as too cool and aloof for faith and morals but thats really only a sign of a sheltered, small life. Its cowardice masquerading as aloofness. Irony poisoned idiots. You dont understand how profoundly stupid youre being.

>>725173003 (OP)
Going in the cube means becoming a lotus eater

>>725194291
>All the superheroin / drooling brainwashing depictions just scream of insecurity to me.
Thats because youre an actual coward and you need to soften the horror of living a lie. The needles and headgear are only emotional manipulation because you subconsciously read them as bad things, but they present the same exact argument.

You want a better example? You're a family man with a beautiful wife and good kids, only you dont know that your wife cheats on you since before you were even married and your kids arent actually yours. The actual test is: Would you want to know? Or would you instead keep living in a lie? That your kids arent yours and your wife is pretending to love you?

Unless youre an ultra cucked raped molested NPC slave, you'd wanna know. You wouldnt want to live in fake bliss. Even retards with ape like IQ would prefer to live a real life instead of a fake one. Otherwise the true crime of a cheating wife wouldnt be cheating, but being slopy enough to get caught.

It's quite incredible how obvious all of this is but I guess we live in times where the obvious shouldnt be taken for granted. We gotta deconstruct every little thing. Soon enough you'll be smugly saying: You dont wanna eat shit just because it smells and tastes awful. No faggot, i dont wanna eat shit because its shit.

I want the pleasure cube. Everything is annoying. Interacting with the external has never satisfied me, only fear doubt and confusion ever since i was a child. I've had enough of looking at the trees for these pale in comparison to the trees in my mind. I have wrung the sky, the wind and the distance for all their worth. Mine is god's world and keep your gnarly hooks to yourselves Merciful Monsters.
How could i come to forget my daily walks from school? Listless and oblivious: my dreams are the best thing i've ever had. Misbegotten i want the pleasure cube.
Finally unto my birth.

>>725206526
It dialed it down too much imo. Misjudging the cause of humanity's insanity as a need for suffering instead of our need for purpose.

4chan is contrarian. That's why you can go on /pol/ and see people seething about Mamdani calling out the jews, as if it's a bad to call out jews now.

>>725210243
Really funny you think the mayor of NYC isnt some Israel approved faggot. He was just seething about antisemitism in what was clearly a hate hoax.

You gotta be so fucking gay to like that little queer;

>>725210514
Why would I be upset about someone who said on his Fox News interview that he'd arrest Nentanyahu?
Why would I be mad when he says the IDF laced the boots of the NYPD?
Never go full retard, culture warrior.

>>725196527
>you're the ones
I'm white lol, you kill more of us in our own countries every day than that clownshow you call a "genocide". regardless of who sent you, it doesn't change that you're ungrateful human garbage that sees kindness as weakness to be exploited, same as the jews.

>>725211534
>I'm white
sure thing rabbi