Thread 725178106

Just finished ICO.
I uh... I didn't get it...

>>725178106 (OP)
You have to beat it in under 2 hours for the ending where the story makes sense

>>725178129
WHAT?
Wait, for real?
How the fuck am I supposed to do that.

It matter little if you did not understand a piece of art, instead you should tell us how Ico made you feel while playing it.

>>725179686
NTA but it made me feel like a piece of shit!

>FIRST area
>Escort the bitch to the bottom of the tower
>Gate (with some torches in front of it or something)
>Never found a way past it, and I looked fucking EVERYWHERE.
>Backtracked all the way back to the start as far as I could, and everything up to the gate.

No idea what esoteric bullshit I was supposed to approach and press a button in front of.

>You missed X
>Implying the game would've gotten any better if I hadn't

>>725179686
I mostly felt frustration and pain.
Because I got stuck on a lot of puzzles, just being on the same screen running back and forth trying to find the 1 thing I didn't interact with that would let me progress.
And also because of the shitty running combat section where the bitch would get stuck on some terrain as I yell "RUN BITCH RUN HERE AND JUMP NOW" and she gets stunlocked and her pathfinding starts walking in circles for no reason and she gets dragged down to hell and I have to restart because the only way to get back to her requires 10 jumps that take longer than it takes for the shadows to swarm and rape her.
And pain from the hazy pixelated visuals and blinding flares and dizzying camera movement that felt like you're controlling a mega sensitive drone stuck on a selfie stick that gets glued back into place when you let go of the right stick.

Sitting on the benches was honestly the best part, the rest kinda sucked.

>>725179905
Thank God I got filtered by the first area then.

I forgot how much I hated the movement controls, climbing ropes was a fucking nightmare.

>>725179905
Don't play shadow of the colossus then, that shit is 100x more bullshit
I couldn't even beat the first boss

>>725178106 (OP)
The beating the shadows parts is the most AIDs part of not only that game, but of all gaming. SotC has its merits, but I will never understand the people who like ICO just as much if not god forbid even more than its successor.

>>725180339
The only reason I played ICO in the first place is because I already played shadow of the colossus.
It was fine, I beat it no problem, the bird fight was kino.

>>725180497
Yup.

>>725179817
>>725179905
>>725180048
>>725180339
the absolute state of zoomers

>>725180556
>>725179905
Which versions did you play?

>>725180339
>I couldn't even beat the first boss

>>725180703
The ps3 hd collection.

>>725180803
I'm not a bad gamer,I beat all souls games
This one is just garbage

>>725180808
Ohh yeah oof, that one is kinda unplayable since it has the stamina glitch in sotc.
Dunno about ico though.

>>725180852
Hm really?
I didn't notice any stamina glitches.
Like I said sotc was completely fine, I didn't have any problems with it, I beat it in a day and enjoyed it a lot so I was hoping I'd get something similarly cool from ico?
But I also beat that in a day but it was just painful and not fun at all in comparison.

>>725179686
I hated the combat and thought it was pointless, even worse that there is a hard lose and reload condition if the girl gets grabbed. Even an RNG element where she is sometimes not useless would have been nice. Overall still great the underworks platforming stuff was really cool.

Couldn't bother to keep playing after the second boss in SOTC, game felt like it was up its own ass with the long horse rides and the gameplay loop of climbing the bosses was immediately frustrating and annoying, didn't feel rewarding or clever like ICO did.

>>725180923
Wander is more susceptible to flailing around/stumbling a bit more when trying to climb colossi on the ps3 version for whatever reason. It's not that big of a deal unless you play the time attacks.

>>725181150
>It's not that big of a deal unless you play the time attacks.
it's super annoying

>>725181150
Ah I see, well I never noticed it.
I guess it's more noticeable if you have it something to compare to.

>>725180803
>>725180841
>I couldn't even beat the first boss
I think I got to the 3rd/4th boss....

>Big fucker (obv) with a giant ass sword
>On an arena
>Suspended above the ocean
>You have to do a tedious platforming section to get up
>The boss is designed to fling you off the arena into the water
>No damage
>Just gotta climb back up
>This takes 1-2+ minutes (dunno for sure, feels like 5+)
>It's not hazardous or challenging, just tedious
>Climb the boss's legs / torso?
>Knocked off
>Climb the sword and jump to the boss?
>Can only manage to land on his belt? (don't remember exactly)
>Can't climb up from here
>Eventually knocked off
>Try more sword jumps
>Knocked off
>Knocked off
>Can't land on his shoulder / upper torso
>Can't climb up his arm
>Knocked down
>Can shoot the fucker with arrows
>1 fucking damage
>Boss has 9,000,000,000 HP

So yeah I fucking quit, even if I somehow figured out how to beat the boss on my own through trial and error or read a guide, there was no fucking way in hell I was going to enjoy a single fucking second of this game.

>>725181236
me on the left

>>725181441
why are you so stupid though

>>725178106 (OP)
It's a date with a cute girl and you hold hands
>noooo it's actually super deep
You didn't get it

>>725181596
dates are happy things anon

>>725181497
Why is the game so shit?

see >>725181150
>Wander is more susceptible to flailing around/stumbling a bit more when trying to climb colossi
What a fun mechanic, charging attacks that have an additional animation that they can be cancelled out of even after inputting the final command because the boss scratched it's fucking ass while your character took nearly 2 extra seconds doing the most pathetically slow attack animation I have ever seen.

and >>725181098
>game felt like it was up its own ass with the long horse rides and the gameplay loop of climbing the bosses was immediately frustrating and annoying

>>725181806
that's on bluepoint and you being a zoomer

>>725182065
Oh, you're retarded.

>>725182187
says the guy filtered by one of the best games ever made

>>725182410
>>725182187

>>725181441
That boss filtered you? I couldn't imagine you even trying to shoot arrows from your horse while aiming backwards leading a Colossus into crashing into a wall

reminder the pal version is the definitive version and if you played the us version you basically played a beta build

>>725182828
>playing an already painful to look at game at 50hz
no thanks

>>725182869
the pal version lets you pick 60hz

>>725182869
if only the PAL version had a 60hz option. sad!

>>725182915
on the ps3 version, on which both pal and ntsc versions are the same

>>725182962
im referring to the original ps2 pal version

>>725182987
>playing an inferior non widescreen version
ahh enjoy your beta build

>>725182962
no, the PAL PS2 version also has 60hz support. it's okay to be wrong sometimes.

>>725182748
>That boss filtered you?
No, it was having to waste time climbing back up to the fucking arena while dealing with the tedious platforming controls. I'd rather have just taken damage and eventually have to reload and start the fight from the beginning over that shit.

>>725183030
enjoy your bugged textures, missing puzzles, broken enemy ai and bloated enemy hp, among other things

>>725183104
all works on my machine, sorry your version is bugged anon

>>725183127
i accept your concession

Ico is the best game ever made but literally every person who has been conditioned by modern slop will probably hate it. They won't even notice how much it does to ground itself. And they won't even think about or notice how it tells its story through gameplay like how Yorda gets the courage to jump off a ledge when Ico moves near bottom of the drop because she feels more safe with him around. These kind of things are completely wasted on modern gamers who load up some progression system dopamine machine to get their fix. I would say games have peaked with Ico but Last Guardian is a strong contender for best game ever made, too.

>>725183163
>Ico is the best game ever made
lol
lmao
it's not even the best ueda game

>>725183104
>broken enemy ai and bloated enemy hp
qrd?

>>725182987
This.
SCES-50760 is the best way to play it, with the code to unlock debug stuff. 60fps, ultrawide if you want, no missing stuff. Gotta play in software mode for perfect visuals though, hardware mode missing some small stuff.

The HD port is trash.

>>725183256
the Shadows have far too much HP on the American version because that version is literally unfinished. it's also missing the water wheel and pillar puzzles alongside the NG+ content, 2 player mode and watermelon ending.

>>725183256
ntsc version the shadows have at least double hp if not more, and the enemies have dogshit pathing when trying to grab the girl
pal version they are way more aggressive and better at grabbing the girl but have way less hp

>>725183341
is it missing Yorda subtitles too?

>>725183421
yes. if anything the atrocious box art for the US version kind of dominates the conversation and not as many people realise that the actual game itself is also unfinished.

>>725182987
why ps2 version does the remaster use? pal or ntsc?

>>725183590
nta but it doesn't matter because the remaster fucks up the visuals and makes them worse so it should be avoided.

>>725180841
lemme guess, you were just wacking the sword at the colossus' feet

>>725183590
the ps3 version restores all the content and there's parity now for both pal and ntsc.

>>725181782
The more tumultuous love is, the more excited you are to hold a girls hand. Love stories are never just about 2 people being happy together anon

>>725183942
there's literally 0 romance in the game

>>725183590
It uses neither, it fixes everything.
Don't listen to the whining retards.

This thread is depressing. Man, what have we come to?
I'm holding up hope that this is a larp and everyone's joining in.

>>725184884
people used to be afraid or embarrassed to be seen as a shitter on this board and now you have anons typing essays about how they got filtered at the start of SOTC. it's wild.

>>725185559
>people were afraid to express their true selves and instead pretended and larped about liking some niche trash while circlejerking each other off
sounds like a major improvement, eat shit contrarian faggot

>>725185715
not as much as your parents pretended and larped when it came to caring about you.

>>725178106 (OP)
How come nobody has been able to create anything similar to it? Even The Last Guardian has zero of what Ico special (although I don't blame Ueda for not wanting to just remake Ico).

>>725186532
I dunno why indies don't copy it but bigger studios don't because it's a huge gamble and tough sell.

>>725180625
>>725184884
I just came from an SMT thread that felt the exact same way what the fuck is going on with zoomers on this board the past couple days?
If they can’t into PS2 games they should just stick to whatever cinematic slop is being pumped out currently

>>725186849
Ueda's whole design by subtraction idea has been co-opted by a lot of indie devs and can be seen in a lot of indie games but no one has been able to do it as good as the main man. Journey and Limbo immediately come to mind.

>>725178158
learn to speed run

>>725187095
those games are gay
when I think of Ico it's a lot more about the character you control than the environment which those games focus on