Thread 725182537

You're not gaslighting me anymore, /v/
Assassin's Creed Shadows IS a good game and IS successful!

>>725182537 (OP)
Fuck that, Play AC Odyssey and unity

>>725182537 (OP)
>Assassin's Creed Shadows IS a good game
It's not.

>>725182537 (OP)
>Feudal Japan
>Afro Samurai
>Comfy environment
Kino

>>725182537 (OP)
Would be a lot better if they took cues from the ghost games and gave you one character that can do everything instead of splitting things between 2 characters. Also don't focus so much on historical characters and real events, it doesn't fucking work when you try to cover too much because it gets written in a way where you can only give a shit if you already know the characters and events. The team ninja games that aren't Nioh 1 and SoP suffer from this exact problem.

Also take another lesson from Yotei and design a world where I can just look around and see POIs in the distance instead of making me open the map every time I need to do anything. I don't know why they got rid of the eagle from the last few games because this one needs it the most.

>>725182537 (OP)
It's an okay game that's easily better than Odyssey and Valhalla, but Origins and Mirage are definitely better than it. It's also way more content heavy than any other game in the series and it's honestly getting ridiculous at this point even though they said they learned from Odyssey. Even Valhalla took years and tons and tons of content updates to get to the point where Shadows is just at a base level with two minor content updates and one DLC.

It does a lot of great things for the series, particularly with Canon Mode, Immersive Mode, the stealth revamp, the combat rebalancing, assassinations now being based on health bars which addressed the dumb systems from Origins, Odyssey, and Valhalla, the castle designs are the best the series as ever had, and visually it looks incredible with the volumetric fog. At the same time Naoe's story is such a barebones revenge story, Yasuke's the best written character of the game but at the same time should not have been playable and the way they wrote him means he should be a person on par with Nobunaga in terms of prestige and how many people talked about him yet he's a complete unknown in history which makes no sense, the hideout customization is completely pointless and everything looks off when you invest time in it, there's so much procgen in the map that you can tell there was a lot of stuff the devs didn't even design (Though the stuff they did design was genuinely great), there's way too many Kata, and there's an insane amount of shrines and temples compared to villages or anything else. Like half the map is just shrines and temples.

It's also very evident how much they wanted to be Ghost of Sushi, you can feel it in how they present a lot of things in both exploration and the story.

>>725182537 (OP)
>>725182794
nobody cares you retard

>>725183156
Cared enough to post ITT

>>725183013
>>725183120
did you use chatgpt to write this you retarded shill?

>>725182537 (OP)
So good it killed the series.

>>725183120
how the fuck are you playing this still moosefag? I checked out after around 50 hours and youtubed the rest of the story because I couldn't stand it any more. This shitty quest board kept getting bigger and bigger and it killed all motivation I had, especially as all quests are the exact same.

good morning sirs
assasin kreed shadow very good game, anyone who disagrees is a bloody benchold

>>725183240
trying too hard

>>725183220
More Assassin's Creed games are in development it only killed the civil war era AC because of grifters who don't play games and harass the devs for taking risks

>>725183013
>I don't know why they got rid of the eagle from the last few games because this one needs it the most.
Because no one liked it. It was consistently a major complaint in Origins and Odyssey, and even when they nerfed it to not give you wallhacks it was still not liked since you had a telepathic connection to the thing.

>>725183236
I'm not even done with NG yet, as you can see I'm in Claws of Awaji right now which I expect to be done around the 305ish hour mark. Then it's NG+ which requires another near 100% run to get the two golden swords for the completion which means overall this is going to be like 500 hours total. Then there's the upcoming Isu DLC and apparently another DBD-level crossover. The Chronicles moment at the start of CoA was pretty cool.
>This shitty quest board kept getting bigger and bigger and it killed all motivation I had, especially as all quests are the exact same.
I actually really liked how they handled the Target system since a decent amount of them were very short side quests or part of the main story.
>The Yamabushi Imposters, Kabukimono, and Godai Shinobi are guys you will find easily just wandering around.
>The Seta River Killers and Templars were actually intertwined and very interesting because I was way more invested in them than the Shinbakufu.
>The Twisted Tree is based entirely in Kyoto and you can leave two of the family members alive easily.
>The Winter Pirates can all be killed in the exact same cave.
>Nobutsuna's Students are part of Yasuke's character development and, again, he's the best written character in the game so you actually want to see stuff regarding him.
The rest aren't really that long or are part of a side quest that's normal length and interesting.

>>725183426
LOL. Interesting risks they took, like BLACKING the mother of the Emperess of Japan.

>>725182537 (OP)
nah dude it is actually pretty fucking bad. It's just so bland on all fronts, at least the 3 rpg ACs before it had SOME amount of soul buried in them.

>>725183120
>It's also way more content heavy than any other game in the series
except the content is all so fucking boring, there's literally nothing interesting to do in shadows outside of combat. The world is completely devoid of life. If every other AC game's side content was picking up things to fulfill a checklist then shadows is that but x10. Like what are the even enjoyable side activities in Shadows??? There's the paintings of animals, which is boring as shit (crouch walk forward till you can watch an animation), there's the reliving memories things where you have to play the instrument which I guess could be interesting if the memory was disconnected from it and it actually got more complicated, but as it is it's just not good at all. Like at least Valhalla had fishing and the drinking minigame and the little puzzles to get inside houses and stuff, you can see they at least put some effort into the GAME part of it

>>725184042
Not canon. Yasuke friendzones Rin and has a discussion with Naoe where she says it's not gonna work out with Oichi and he should stay away. He also friendzones the non-binary ally who isn't exactly happy about it. Canon Mode should have been enabled by default, I don't even know why they bothered adding dialogue choices.

>>725184119
Odyssey had zero soul, don't be stupid. The towns were lifeless, the side quests were nearly all terrible barring the blacksmith which is only funny if you actually bang both mother and father, so many of the locations are copy pasted barracks and forts that just get a coat of paint based on who runs the region, the sanctuaries were borderline copy pasted, the tombs were nearly all copy pasted, the main character was so poorly written, and the entire combat system was horrendously bad.
Valhalla had completely negative soul, the only redeemable aspect about it was running around England, Basim.

Shadows at least has living towns that look like people live in them, it has unique tombs (Kofuns), every temple and shrine is at least completely different in how they are set up so you're not just repeating the same exact thing in the same setup over and over, the targets are actually developed as characters compared to those two games, there's actual balanced combat and stealth mechanics, the seasons system adds issues into the stealth system and also visually makes everything look distinct, and you can very clearly see how much effort went into the stuff they actually designed to be traversible. The castle designs are also the series' best because they actively encourage stealth gameplay in them which is why it feels so awkward when you wander around them as Yasuke.

>>725184427
Hard disagree on everything. I'm not autistic enough to actually attempt to argue with you since I wont be able to keep up on specific examples but Shadows is easily the most bland of all 4 and Odyssey mogs it hard imo, even though I never finished Odyssey it was fun while it lasted

>>725182537 (OP)
Yes Anon, an absolutely massive success. >>725182650
Totally. >>725182650
*twitch* >>725182650

>>725182537 (OP)
Yeah I had a blast with it, put like 500 hrs in this masterpiece

>>725184427
>Not canon.
Doesn't matter. They picked two historical figures here. They had historians and cultural experts working on it.

The fact is they chose a literal yamato nadeshiko who is one of the most famous women in the era, and her primary fame being fidelity in the face of death

She's the worst adult they could have chosen in all of japan other than the empress herself.

>>725184348
>you can see they at least put some effort into the GAME part of it
Their effort was placed in the castles, forts, and ruin designs, the "Path of" locations, the kofuns, villages being unique with very little copy paste but able to be quickly run through if you wanted, and in general giving you multiple ways to tackle any location you went to. They focused less on minigames to give you way more gameplay in the actual gameplay segments which is what people were complaining about for years at this point.

I'm with you that it definitely should have had something like the dice game or rock stacking at the very least, but people complained heavily about rock stacking in Valhalla, and fishing was broken for like two years in Valhalla to the point you couldn't even catch all the fish until they threw the broken ones into Norway and called it a day.

>>725184639
>Doesn't matter.
It does matter because you're intentionally choosing to play in the mode that the devs consider fanfiction. If you care about adhering to historical aspects (Yasuke aside) or how the Animus has been established then you'd be playing Canon Mode, not making dialogue choices or actually choosing to bang people you shouldn't be able to.

>>725183426
In reality it's literally the opposite happening, which is why ubishit is going bankrupt.

>>725185287
Opposite of what? they are remaking black flag and there's another game coming

>>725185287
>In reality it's literally the opposite happening
Jade is still in development as far as we know though I doubt it'll make them any money unless it's paid.
Hexe is still in development and people have regularly been making mentions of it.
Black Flag Remake just had a wide amount of information leaked about it as recent as a few weeks ago.
Shadows just gained a roadmap for the next few months as of last week in addition to another crossover, and the devs/Ubisoft are actively doing interviews about how they're "Listening to the fans instead of the criticism" or whatever yesterday regarding continued Shadows development.
Mirage is getting a free DLC expansion in the next week or two.

Nothing's been cancelled outside of that Civil War one they were talking about, but that seemed to have been done in the conceptual phase rather than something they went through with. Ubisoft is putting all their focus onto AC as a brand to the detriment of Rainbow Six and The Division 2 considering it's Ubisoft's only real "safe" brand in terms of money regardless of Shadows flopping/underperforming.

>>725185841
They made shitty woke games (George Floyd in Japan and the now cancelled KKK game) because they saw that BLM shit all over twitter in ~2020 and thought they wanted a piece of that pie. It turned out that gamers are right wing though, and they killed their company as a result since no leftoids play games in significant numbers (they're too busy eating shit and sucking cock)

If they gave gamers what they actually wanted then we'd have an Ass Creed where you play as the Klan and go around lynching lazy violent niggers.

>>725186048
ghost recon... forgotten...

>>725182537 (OP)
>Assassin's Creed Shadows IS a good game and IS successful!

Buy an ad.
>>>/trash/

>Assassin's Creed Shadows IS a good game and IS successful!
>Assassin's Creed Shadows IS a good game and IS successful!
>Assassin's Creed Shadows IS a good game and IS successful!

>>725182758
nobody would play a game for 50 hours if it's bad.
you got bored after getting your money's worth

>>725186384
>losing 92% of your value in 5 years to own the chuds

Genius business strategy, I hope it catches on.

>>725186617
>nobody would play a game for 50 hours if it's bad.

>>725186293
Far Cry pretty much flopped two or three games in a row.
Ghost Recon had Badlands I think it was called which completely flopped because they were desperately clawing at GaaS money.
Rider's Republic didn't go anywhere because extreme sports games like Steep aren't super niche but also not super popular. I'd also imagine being unable to turn the bots/other players contributed to some people not liking it because I know that's one of my issues with RR.
Skull and Bones completely flopped but I think it must have some sort of solid userbase on consoles that buys their paid cosmetics because it's still getting major content updates and even Twitch drops every few months.
The second Mario + Rabbids game underperformed compared to the first so that's likely dead.
The Prince of Persia sidescrolling game flopped even though it was a solid game, but that brand's dead again.
Rayman seems to be crossover-only territory at this point.
Rainbow Six Siege is dying a dog's death and constantly ignoring player feedback if the random videos I see pop up on Youtube discussing it is anything to go by.
The Division 2 just exists it seems.
That one sports game trying to copy Rocket League died at launch.
Their NFT projects went nowhere and immediately failed.
Beyond Good and Evil 2 is functionally vaporware at this point.

Ubisoft's basically got nothing outside of AC left to work with unless they start trying to bring old IPs back or realize they need to scale down their expenditures on new games because dear lord, it's like everything they fund is bare minimum AA budget even when it doesn't need to be.

>>725186617
Brother there's people here that have played bad games for over 10,000 hours.

>>725186617
I think I put about a hundred fucking hours into BOTW.
might not have helped that it was the first thing for my shiny new console though

>>725186802
what the fuck, how?
if it's a bad game, how can you keep playing? are you being blackmailed into playing fallout 4 by todd howard? crying and gritting your teeth but you keep collecting bottle caps or else he'll do unspeakable things to your little sister?

ten thousand hours is five years of full time work

>>725187184
Sunk cost fallacy, autistic enjoyment of one particular aspect (like collecting costumes, titles etc..) or just denial of the fact that it's a bad game. Eventually they have an epiphany but the damage is done at that point.

>>725187184
>if it's a bad game, how can you keep playing?
Do you not know of the "sunk cost fallacy", people being pulled in due to FOMO and are unable to pull themselves away, people who are stuck in that game because it's the only decent one in the genre, or just simply being unable to see the forest for the trees that it's not as good as they've convinced themselves it is?

Some people just can't stop playing something as it's become part of their daily routine.

>>725187446
fifty hours is a long fucking time for that. i don't buy it. bro was having funfor a bunch of that

>>725187659
I think you underestimate how autistic some gamers are.

>>725187659
bad games can have fun moments in them, that doesn't automatically mean it's a good game overall

>>725187732
you had fun but it's a bad game? sounds like some cowardly pretentious bullshit to me. just admit you like it enough to keep playing.

then later the game's flaws flared up and it stopped being fun. bit it was good until then. lots of games start strong

>>725186857
ok,what game is this?

Naoe is fun, the stealth is less braindead than it has ever been (still braindead)
Yasuke is dull, but fun in bursts. Usually saved for the end of a play session when I'm bored and just want to check off one more thing before quitting.

>>725188581
don't do it bro

>>725188560
it's really exhausting trying to explain things to tourists/pretending to not understandoids.

>>725184831
Why is it that all tripfags are retards

>>725189039
sounds like the whole thing was slop you never questioned, and very basic thinking led it to fall apart. so you lash out trying to deflect and stop thinking about it.

try living honestly with yourself, brother.

>>725189351
>Armchair psychologist.
I suppose you gotta put that degree to use somehow.

>>725188692
Yasuke is for when you want to turn your brain off and murder entire castles in minutes. Seriously, he's so overtuned. You should not be able to kill a Guardian in like two hits on Nightmare but he can.

>>725189429
it's just basic thinking, but i can understand if that much seems like years of dedication to you.

>>725189536
We're done. It's obvious you're just intentionally misunderstanding things for attention. If you really need to do that then at least do it on twitter where you can actually get engagement for it.

>Every single area in Claws of Awaji has half the yellow dots not be the low tier chests but instead groups of wooden planks, crops, and stones when these stopped being valuable 190 hours ago.
>There's only like three Legendary chests, one of which is a Bo.
>There's three solid castles but two of them are fairly small with only one or two Daishos.
>Half the map is just procgen shores.
I don't get it. The handmade parts of the map are great, especially these castles, but even on these paths to the landscape sumi-es you can just skip 90% of them most of the time unlike the Paths in the base game.