Thread 725184596

The games you paid for are not yours. You don't own them.

>>725184596 (OP)
Define what do you mean by “owning” the game

Yes I do. They're on my HDD so they are mine

But I have the receipt right here
>hands you my coom tissue

>>725184596 (OP)
I know, but it’s on PC so if they get stolen I can just pirate them.
No such thing for consoles. To date the only >money stolen experience I’ve had was from facebook’s vr headset.

I'M A STEAMIE, I LOVE SLOP!
I DON'T PLAY 'EM IF THEY FLOP!
GABENCUNT HAS TOOK ALL MY GAMES
BUT IT'S ALRIGHT CAUSE STEAMIE SALES!!!

The games you own are not yours. You don't own them

>>725184596 (OP)
Still playing more games than you are.

>>725184712
what planet do you live on if you think that consoles don't have piracy

>Goldberg steam emu..
>Applied
>Steamless patch to game EXE..
>Applied
Nice. I own that now.

>>725184596 (OP)
Yes I do, if a games gets removed from the store, you can still access and install it from your library.

>>725185062
And when Steam shuts down, and you didn't back that game up?

>>725184596 (OP)
I own them, unlike owners of drm-boxes called consoles.

>>725185098
>And when Steam shuts down, and you didn't back that game up?
Steam won't be shut down, at least not in my lifetime. Stop being paranoid.

>>725184919
Uranus

>>725184596 (OP)
>buy game on steam
>install game
>make a back up of the install
>apply steam emu or basic steam_api crack
>????
>profit

>>725185176
>Steam won't be shut down, at least not in my lifetime.

>>725185261
schizo without arguments, classic

>>725185098
The terms of service state that in the unlikely event of the platform shutting down that all DRM will be removed. It would essentially be like a GoG game installed. It also allows for a transitional period to download all your shit before it does.
Anything short of New Zealand being nuked and we're fine.

>>725185393
That DDoS outage didn't teach you anything it seems, cuck.

>>725185473
>The terms of service state that in the unlikely event of the platform shutting down that all DRM will be removed.
Sure, because Valve totally never stated something and never delivered on it or outright lied. Never...

>>725185473
there's no way this will work with third party drm

>>725184596 (OP)
Please tell me at least you get paid for this instead of doing it for free.

>>725185553
NTA, but 3rd party drm has nothing to do with this
steam can obviously only act on the services they provide themselves, so when they say they'll remove drm it means they'll remove THEIR drm, anything else it's not up to them and it's not their responsibility

>>725185547
>That DDoS outage didn't teach you anything it seems, cuck.
My games still worked, cuck.

>>725185547
>That DDoS outage didn't teach you anything it seems, cuck.
I didn't even notice anything like that. If I wanted DRM-free games, I downloaded them for free from GoG—they're free to download online. But I prefer Steam because I have friends, cloud saves, cloud screenshots, and very cheap games all in one place. I only buy games from keyshops for 10-20% of the price of the GoG and Steam stores.

>>725185689
The ones you had installed. And the ones you didn't? Lol shit out of luck, cucky boy.

>>725184596 (OP)
Correct.
Always was the case.

I stopped taking physicalfags seriously when I realized they don't want true ownership of their games; they simply want to be able to give the games they paid $50-$70 for to Gamestop in exchange for a few cents.

That's what physical truly boils down: to be Gamestop's bitch.

>>725185739
My games still worked.

>>725185739
thats every digital store, even gog

>>725185547
You nigger pajeet steam was working during the DDoS attack or whatever aws was going through. Your a schizo and I'm betting it's only 10 people that say you don't own anything on steam

>>725185779
I wonder why these threads attacking the digital model only single out Steam.

>>725185772
All of them? Absolutely every part of it? Doubt.

>>725185810
Seethe, retarded steamiesoy lol

>>725185779
>>725185859
There's no need to shit on GoG because it ACTUALLY lets you own your games. You download the installer, and you can use it anytime you want. Not with Steam, though.

>>725185941
GOG is
>incredibly slow through Galaxy (I hit 105MB/s max)
>even slower through a web browser (I can't even break 10MB/s)
>more cumbersome through a web browser (lots of 4GB chunks)
>lacking a huge chunk of games because publishers don't want to sell their shit in ready-to-pirate installers
>missing content for a lot of games (someone can post the spreadsheet)
>behind on patches a lot of the time
So, yes, I do own this Ford Pinto, but I'd rather lease this Acura TLX.

>>725185553
There would be no 3rd party DRM.
>>725185547
>Sure, because Valve totally never stated something and never delivered on it or outright lied. Never...
Can't think of a time that they've lied in their terms of service, a legally binding contract. Closest example you could give me was the Australian refund lawsuits in which their ToS contradicted Australian law, the response gave us the current refund system we have now.

out of curiousity, which one let's you own games other than gog so far?
epic? gamepass? ps+? nintendo store?

>>725184596 (OP)

with steam games, can you copy your game files to another harddrive and play them on someone elses computer?

Wait! I hit a new record downloading from GOG!
Fuck this shit. If you think this is at all acceptable, you need AIDS with a pneumonia chaser.

>>725186085
I was once a Physicalfag, though I could read the writing on the wall.
We live in a game key card era now. I'd rather just be digital than buy digitals things that take up physical space.

>>725185941
>There's no need to shit on GoG because it ACTUALLY lets you own your games. You download the installer, and you can use it anytime you want. Not with Steam, though.
Why should I buy games on GOG when they're free? You won't find a difference between the .exe you bought from GOG and the one I downloaded for free.

>>725186349
Weird, it works for me. But I'm also not running wangblows and chromium like a niggerfaggot.

>please buy more plastic
Nah bro

>>725184596 (OP)
The post you posted is not yours. It's now the property of 4chan ltd. and GookMoot Holdings.

>>725186314
yeah. in the steam options for each game, there's a bunch of move/copy options

>>725184596 (OP)
You don't own anything kid. With a whiff your house, savings, cars and everything can be pulled out from you. So why bother?

>>725184596 (OP)
Good post OP. Looks like the lil steamies got rattled.

>>725186349
nigger pls
i was running internet that took an hour per GB until just a few years ago. give me a sprinkle of hepatitis too, impatient-chan

>>725186590
-Ensuring you have the current version
-online connectivity without jumping through hoops
-you can uninstall and redownload it in the future without praying it still has seeders.
To play a singleplayer non new game only once? Probably 0 difference.

>>725185547
>Never...
Well yeah, never. I don't know what your hateboner is against Steam, but it's very obvious.

>>725186085
>put my games on my raid setup that takes minimal space
>or collect discs that take more space and will stop working at some point

>>725186312
no one is answering so i guess no one knows or dead internet theory...

Thanks to my DotA2 and TF2 inventory, I haven't paid for a game using team money in years. I spent $400 on skins back in 2015 and my inventory ballooned up to $40,000.
I have $1400 in my steam wallet alone which I already used to by a Steam Deck OLED I don't even use.
Thanks Valve <3

>>725186840
>-Ensuring you have the current version
>-online connectivity without jumping through hoops
>-you can uninstall and redownload it in the future without praying it still has seeders.
All three of these arguments assume that GOG will be around forever. The truth is that Steam is more likely to exist in 20 years than GOG.

>>725186121
I just use lgogdownloader in a terminal to fetch my games, personally

>>725186645
Meanwhile, on a real store, also on Macro$haft Wangbloze lol rofl lmao even lol lol lol lol (lol) lol

Why would I ever buy from GOG when a pirate gets the exact same experience for free?
If I'm going to spend money, I'm going to buy on the platform that offers the most features which is Steam.

>>725184712
>To date the only >money stolen experience I’ve had was from facebook’s vr headset.
for me it was a louis ck special on amazon they literally stole from my library and everything I purchased digitally on the ps3 that didn't carry over to the fucking ps4

>>725186349
Counterpoint: GOG expects you to download and horde your installers, and use patches for updates and not redownload the whole thing.
Also, my internet can't even reach more than that because there's no fucking fiber here. You're spoiled.

>>725184596 (OP)
You have only ever bought a license unless you have literally made the game yourself. I own my games on Steam far, far more than I do any of the console games I bought. Physical is a hard cope for stupid people and/or for autistic collectors who just want to see plastic on their shelf.
If you can't freely access, modify, transfer, or copy files, you do not even remotely own the game.

>>725186737
but do they require me to login on the second device?

im under the assumption that if you buy a game on GoG, you have control over the files. you can throw it on any system and run the EXE without an internet connection or login.
And that steam being more locked down and child proofed with auto updates and login restrictions. Where you might not be able to load your game on a second computer.

This is what real video game ownership looks like btw.

>>725184712
>To date the only >money stolen experience I’ve had was from facebook’s vr headset.
For me it's consoles that have left their libraries behind to rot then proceed to die.

>>725187183
Check this out. With Steam, you don't even need to copy them over from device to device. You can legally share it. This is my brother's copy of Dark Ages, and I can install it just like a game on my own account.

>>725187271
untill nintendo decides that you don't own these

>>725185739
Yeah, that's a part of ownership. You can't use things that aren't in your posession

>>725186880
>own
You don't officially "own" games on any of these, not even on GoG. On consoles you don't even own the hardware (but who the fuck cares about consoles anyway). GoG just can't stop you if you already downloaded the games. Steam also has games with no DRM, you can just launch those without the client. There's also itch, zoom (they are the only ones with the good Duke 3D version) and some porn games publishers have their own DRM free sites.

>>725187676
So other than pirating there's no really a "you own what you buy" digital service, right?

>>725187138
Okay, slave. Go play your Rockjew slop so microshart can get some data for their AI.

>>725187837
Go play a copy of Resident Evil I got for free.

Games are intellectual property
Owning a game means owning its copyright
You purchase a license.
You always did.

>>725188414
I have a contract for a groundskeeper. I own that person.

>>725188414
>You always did.
so you didn't own this cartridge and company could potential revoke your license making you unable to play it?

>>725188562
I mean, this happens with modern games like The Crew and Concord and it's not like the law changed between the 90's and now.

>>725188562
According to the law, yes. In reality, enforcing that is near impossible. But lack of ability to enforce doesn't change anything. Valve can't take away games I Goldberg and move out of the Steam tree. That doesn't mean circumventing copy protection is somehow legal because they can't enforce it.

>>725187284
can you both play that game at the same time?

>>725187797
I mean on paper, pirating is even less of an ownership, it's just that there's no practical difference to you. You can't legally own any game on any platform. You don't even own your physical copies. You can only posses a DRM free copy. None of this matters btw, I just think it's neat.

>>725188562
All you ever owned was the plastic, yes. If corporations wanted to revoke your license, that's fully within their right.

>>725184694
*eats it*

>>725188701
Yes.

>>725188701
No. It's like lending your cart. The upshot is that it works with Denuvo and whatever.

>>725188241
I don't care about your slop games.

>>725188895
You can if one of you simply goes offline.

>>725184596 (OP)
No one owns shit as long as jews rule the world faggot.

>>725188932
Name a game you have on GOG. I got it for free.
>>725188981
It doesn't require the borrower uninstall it while online?

steamdrones are the worst kind of retards
you have a system where you can pirate, modify and preserve everything you want at your own leisure and instead you simp for a shoddily coded chrome fork with drm up the ass that has schizo release rules and straight up tells you you dont own your shit

>>725188562
Yes.
Legally you purchased a storage medium and a transferrable limited use license.
Nintendo had every right to revoke the license even back then, what they lacked was the capacity.

>>725187797
Owning software means holding the copyright. Full stop.

>>725189045
No. I share my 2.5k library with my own brother. He can play whatever he wants, whenever he wants, for free and if we are playing the same game at the same time, one of us can simply go offline. It's mindboggling to me Steam even allows me to do this. I mean, I know corporations aren't your friends and all, but Valve is so much more consumer friendly than consoles it's nuts people still buy those DRM boxes. Marketing is a hell of a drug.

>>725184596 (OP)
No one literally "owns" the games they buy. They're owned by the rights holders of the ip. You're just allowed to use a copy of it.

>>725184596 (OP)
>internet goes out
>want to play Time Stranger
>"your save files are stored online"
Thanks, Denuvo.

>>725189091
Can you at least not post a character from one of the shittiest corporations in the industry when you say that?

>>725189045
>I got it
No you don't and
>for free
Having to install malware to access it is not free.

>>725187169
> louis ck special on amazon they literally stole from my library
That reminded me that I used to let my sister buy whatever random shit she couldn’t find elsewhere on there and yeah, like half of it has just disappeared. Not like I was going to rewatch My Cat from Hell Season 8 but what the fuck, the scumbaggery is unreal.

>>725189306
>malware
Imagine lying on the internet to shill for a polish game store run by a company that hates gamers.

>>725189215
You OWN you copy, you don't own the rights to distribute the game, these are two very different things.
You very much are the full and proper owner of the physical game copy you own, and no one have the right to deprive you of it.

>>725184596 (OP)
Okay

>>725184596 (OP)
If I can play them and download them whenever I want and have been doing it for the past 10 years it's the same to me.

how do I rip my games from my steam library?

>>725189640
>copy directory from your steamapps\common tree
https://mr_goldberg.gitlab.io/goldberg_emulator/

>>725189535
You use windows, your opinion means very little to me.

>>725189738
There's no alternative. Also, you lying isn't an opinion. It's obvious fact since you just claimed I have to use malware to play a GOG game for free.

>>725189808
Okay, now go play with your normalnigger slop.

>>725184596 (OP)
Ok? The same applies for every digital storefront, selling any type of digital goods. Why single out Steam?

>>725189997
>Why single out Steam?
because OP is an insecure fanboy of a competitor?

>>725190030
>competitor out of nowhere
RENT FREE STEAMIE

>>725190119
>stop using Steam
>but I have no replacement!
So you literally just want people to stop playing games, because human happiness makes you seethe.

>>725190260
If i'm not happy, why should they be?

>>725190302
You're not happy because you spend your money on inferior services like a retard lmao

Gaben and Steam will outlive us all. Keep seething chuddies

>>725184596 (OP)
I've owned half life since 2000 and my copy is secure with steam with the cd key i gave it.

This is the reason why modern gaming sucks

>>725185547
>Sure, because Valve totally never stated something and never delivered on it or outright lied. Never...

Ah, it's the Artifact schizo

>>725184596 (OP)
>game downloads to computer
>zip game folder contents
>????
>PROFIT!

Why can't anyone make a service that competes with Steam? Steam is just a small company, it should be pretty easy.

>>725184596 (OP)

neither you own your physical games , you arent buying the game you are just getting a license

>>725194619
AI is telling me that sunken cost effect has something strong to do with it.

>>725194619
Because it's a big undertaking that would take years to bear fruit. It doesn't make the line go up this quarter so the shareholders don't like the idea.

>china nukes atmosphere and shuts down your internet and power
BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!! BUT DID YOU HAVE THEM INSTALLED DOE????

>>725184596 (OP)
Yes. Steamies and digital only cucks in general own NOTHING. PhysicalGODS will inherit the earth. And before you say "b-but everything is moving towards digital" that's exactly when I'll pirate everything. Seethe and cope, I will not be purchasing nothing.

>>725195398
Probably also requires you not to treat your customers like goyim that owe you all their money

>>725189561
>You very much are the full and proper owner of the physical game copy you own
Same goes for digital copies but if you buy a license on storefronts like Steam you can install and play your game on multiple pc's simultaneously which is something you can't do with a physical copy.

Physical sissies are weak to entropy, niggas games turn to dust over time like him

>>725184596 (OP)
You don't actually own anything, the state does, since they have the power to strip you of your access to all your property if you commit a "crime" which is defined only by them.

>>725195889
Yeah, true. When EGS was just starting up they outright said they're not gonna even bother competing with Steam's features when they can just buy exclusivity.
All the disdain towards their store is well earned.

>>725186312
None. Literally none of them. Game ownership was killed while paid pajeets flung digital shit at us to distract us.

>>725186312
Are you talking about legality or in practice? Because legally it's none of them, not even GOG, but in practice you can play a lot of Steam and EGS games without the launcher once you've downloaded them, so you could argue that you can own some games on those platforms.

>>725194619
>Why can't anyone make a service that competes with Steam?
because
>the more games on a platform, the harder it is to compete
>network effects. having everything in one place is convenient
>NO ONE wants to have storefront launchers or accounts, let alone two. fragmentation kills markets (see jewish TV companies screeching about the resurgence of piracy after they decided to split shows among parajew, yidsney, hulu, nigflix, crapple tv, amajew grime, etc.)
>steam offers things publishers absolutely hate with a passion (e.g. reviews that publishers can't delete nilly-willy, discussion forums so people can mention glitches and bugs and solutions, considerable discounts)
>worldwide reach. it's extremely hard to launch a global company thanks to jewish regulations (e.g. germoney's cucked guvmint are cunts that will fine you if you have unrated games, plus they ban shit nilly-willy all the time. not to mention all the policing conducted by racist hate groups like the ADL)

>>725197913
>not to mention all the policing conducted by racist hate groups like the ADL)
Isn't that the same group that said milk was a white supremacist dogwhistle?

>>725199719
Pretty much, I've seen pictures of the ADL members and they legit look like propaganda the Nazi would draw

>>725199973
>founded to spread misinformation that a mentally retarded black janitor was such a devious criminal mastermind that he framed Leo Frank with no evidence pointing back to himself

>>725201391
Bro how bad does it have to be that the fucking Klu Klux Klan took the black dudes side.

>>725184596 (OP)
No one else has access to the magic pass phrase to access these games but me