Thread 725232473

Why is unreal engine 5 so ugly?

hohols are braindead

Somehow by trying to be realistic they made an engine that looks faker and more plastic

>>725232473 (OP)
that's an anomaly

>>725232473 (OP)
please tell me the fucking skyrim compass is a mod

what fucking dogshit game is this? I thought it was fallout 4 for a second

Why does a remaster of a 18 year old game look better and more realistic than modern ue5

everything is getting worse every year, the last decade is defined by cutting costs and corners at every possible turn.

>>725232764
Hell yeah I totally agree. Let the circlejerk begin boys! FUCK MODERN GAMING! Let's spend this friday right~

14 year old game BTW

UE5 wishes it had this much detail, clarity and shadow. It looks realistic.

>>725233079
>clarity
pic unrelated. looks blurry. is this the remaster? did they introduce TAA?

>>725232473 (OP)
Staler 2 is the prettiest open world vidya since rdr2.
You fags should actually touch grass.

Also /v/ doesn't play games anymore.

>>725233143
Nah even a 10 year old star wars game made with frost engine mogs red dead 2 and stalker UE5 lumen slop in lighting and detail

>>725232473 (OP)
After investigating this is in TES Oblivion Remastered it only happens with hardware ray tracing.

Why can't modern devs create good graphics.
UE5 looks so bad, lumen has grainy fake shadows that are comically bad, TAA smeared slop.

Alien isolation, a 10 year old game blows UE5 out of the water.

I will not buy any game with UE5 unless they make it look good like arc raiders and remove lumen and allow me to turn off TAA and use no anti aliasing.

Is it not crazy that every Unreal Engine tech demo manages to make it look like the most amazing thing ever where everyone else should just quick because they can't possibly compete against that, yet every single actual game on UE5 is so terrible that you'll scream for a refund?

Simply breathtaking visuals

UE5 is meant for future hardware that can bruteforce insane frame rates where temporal artifacts are minimized.
Too bad hardware has stagnated.

>>725233705
Marines look like they are wearing dresses with that weird shadow effect.

>>725233705
oh god I can't unsee that bullshit now that you pointed it out

fucking jeetengine, I swear

>>725234983
oops meant for >>725234823

Why shouldn't it be?

>>725232694
>>725232682


Bait used to have effort.

>>725233298
that's a stupid 100 square meter map you retard.

>>725232619
>>725232473 (OP)
Now post how it works and looks on modern gpu and not 1060m.

>>725232473 (OP)
>Lumen
kys already you tard, you cannot SEE lumen, it is not a visual effect.

>>725233298
Wow, backed lighting and volumetric fog

>>725232473 (OP)
>>725235282
Are you seriously trying to tell me this doesn't look like modded fallout 4?

>>725232473 (OP)
Looks neato. What’s wrong?

>>725235414
You can when there's grainy shadows and ghosting. Also TAA causes ghosting. Its so ugly!

>>725233143
>>725235440
good morning pyotr please redeem the chornobile

>>725235440
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

>>725233298
I feel like the new battlefronts were downright gorgeous.

>>725235440
So? It looks better, that's a fact.

>>725235830
you have no clue what you're talking about, just like 99% of these retarded board. fucking kys loser.

>>725235440
what is this though. why are these leaves see through LMAO?

>>725236020
maam reedeem the ukraini please to enlist blyat!!!

we traded brown and bloom for orange lumen piss filter

>>725235720
TAA is the cause of ghosting, lumen is just a lighting engine.

>>725233705
within 5 seconds my brain was screaming "something's wrong".

>>725233705
surely there has to be a way to turn that shit off? it plagues UE game the terrible AO and flickering reflections

>>725236020
The point Im trying to make is that it looks like shit dude lol.

>>725232473 (OP)
it tries to be as "standard" as possible and no one seems to care to customize it

>>725234595
This isn't true. UE5 was designed for developers that aren't really developers. It was marketed as an engine that you could make games with without having to be a programmer. The tools are there for optimization. You can use lumen to bake in lighting to increase performance, but that is hard and its easier for it to all just be real time lighting all the time and tell consumers to play the game at 480p with dlss and frame gen on. I seriously doubt these games will ever run well on any future hardware.

>>725235440
>proc-gen trees
>lyomen
show me actual graphics retarded cattle

>>725233141
It looks blurry because it was designed to run with less than 1GB VRAM, 3GB sys memory, and textures are low resolution.
Virtually every advancement of any significance any game since Crysis has over Crysis, is better fidelity textures.
That's about it.
>>725234823
they're just suffering ptsd. pls do not trigger

>>725236027
Just nanite things, don't worry about it.

>>725235440
what the fuck is this

>>725232473 (OP)
Why does your gun have dandruff?

>>725232473 (OP)
It's rendered at an extremely low resolution and then upscaled so the game is completely dependent on post processing to carry the visuals

why are YOU so ugly?

>>725236981
what is this stupid bitch doing? she is gonna end up dropping the food.

>>725232473 (OP)
Devs are too lazy and/or too stupid so they slap retarded shit on it, make it mandatory to use an upscaler and call it a day.
If I was Epic i'd start punishing devs at this point, i'm sure there's something good about the engine when you don't rely on slopcode

>>725235401
exactly the same.
Because ray tracing doesnt run faster on better hardware. You just get more frames. The amount of frames where this happens remains consistent due to how the rays per frame and de-noising algorithm works.
this is why you see this issue even on a 5090 + 9950x3d. it takes 30-60 frames for the image to stabilize. Even at 180fps its still a huge 300ms delay from busted to pretty.

At 2000fps you probably wouldnt notice this issue as it would be less than 50ms. But there isnt any gpu and cpu capable of pulling that off even at 720p on RTX titles.

Go watch threat interactive on youtube. Youl learn a lot.

>>725232473 (OP)
>>725232619
Do you want your games optimized, or not?

>>725232473 (OP)
TAA

>>725237063
speen

>>725237078
At this point it feels like unrealslop is actually damaging their brand.

>>725237086
Grifter.

>>725237078
>i'm sure there's something good about the engine
There are lots of great things and lots of bullshit too. If you filter through all the messy graphical effects you can get a very good looking game that runs well but people would rather tank FPS by enabling yet another latin-named checkbox.

>>725237281
Why dont you buy a 50goyim90 and test for yourself? You seem to value your own opinion more than facts presented to you, so give it a go.

>>725236078
Not quite
The issue shown in the OP is an artifact from Lumens screen traces, it's default mode uses HZB for tracing which is more accurate but 3 times slower and quick changes like that leave that after image effect.
It does clean up from frame accumulation using taa.

>>725236615
>It looks blurry because it was designed to run with less than 1GB VRAM, 3GB sys memory, and textures are low resolution.
???
The sharpness of the image has absolutely nothing to do with the system requirements lol.

>>725237249
It is by this point, people balk at any mention of UE5 now. SQUAD updated to UE5 which nobody asked for and now the playerbase is on a downward trend, looking at a straight 25% loss in playerbase so far. To add insult to injury the devs used chatgpt to write an apology. Strangely enough the same team also bought out Post Scriptum, made changes no one asked for and then effectively killed it.

>>725237078
"You don't need devs" was their selling point, Epic made a fuckton of money from selling to lazy studios, the least they can do is take the reputation hit that comes from it.

>>725237249
At this point it is
Like UE has had a lot of terrible shit made with it since UE3 but wasn't much of a talking point since plenty of good shit was made with it, same with UE4. But 5 has a huge quantity of shit and the few that aren't are the exceptions.

>>725237871
the same retards implemented a community ban list which has over 90,000 players banned globally on all servers over petty shit

I know someone that is kinda retarded that is developing (more like coding) a game in unreal 5 and he keeps vehemently defending it and saying its a good engine without actually denying anything i point out about how dogshit it is. He played borderlands 4 recently, like the retard he is, and didn't have any retort for the meltdown randy had at people calling the game unoptimized shit.

>>725232741
In some ways, OG Crysis looks better than its remaster.

>i hate modern games! check out these old games!
>made 10 years ago
kek

>>725238821
God I hate retards like that and I see plenty like him online.
They act like Epic has a gun to their heads. It helps no one to deny any tools shortcomings since every tool I've used will have something I like and dislike about it but these mouth breathers just ignore the issues like they don't exist.
God they frustrate me to no end.

>>725232473 (OP)
Let's face it, games are supposed to run like ass unless you have an RTX 5080. Pay up or pay old games, fuckers.

>>725236572
>show me Actual Graphics™ retarded cattle

>>725232473 (OP)
this.................................. looks like the source engine???

>>725237386
>10 year old game

>>725239401
Games from 10 years ago are retro today

>>725239719
KF2 my beloved

UE5 is inherently souless because it's designed to 'cheat' graphical features. Lumen and nanite are garbage features that get rid of the intensive work in favor of easy shortcuts that introduce a shit ton of artifacting and noise to the final render. Jeet engine made for and by jeets to make it look like more work done translates to better work

>>725239719
>Le
Fucking reddit game
REEEEEEEEE

>>725232473 (OP)
Lack of sovl it's all fake and gay ai bullshit with fake and gay fps numbers

>>725239929
lol

>>725239798
people like you are why gaming(and any other medium) is dead

>>725239890
>Lumen and nanite are garbage features that get rid of the intensive work in favor of easy shortcuts that introduce a shit ton of artifacting and noise to the final render
It's funny since that's how they were marketed but the reality turned out to be more complicated especially for the starry eyed retards who lapped up the marketing.
They can reduce your workload but its not as simple as a couple check boxes if you want anything half way decent. When they work well it's great but they have so many gotchas they fuck up massively for everyone and become a pain to remedy if not worked out earlier.

>>725234595
ue5 is meant for Ai upscaling hardware. It works but only with super fast Ai processing that can clean up the image quicker

>>725240704
>When they work well it's great
I have yet to see this be the case

>>725232619
UE5 eye adaption or auto exposure tied directly to the player camera is absolutely cancerous.

>>725233141
It has some form of AA at least, and the screenshot is only 1080p. The gun also has some ugly ass DoF effect.
I think what he was trying to point out is the stability of the image. There aren't any weird artifacts or smearing going on, it actually looks proper as intended.

>>725240826
Usually it works flawlessly in very specific scenes with an understanding of how the fuck it all works and a lot of devs including Epic are working that out.
The only UE5 games I found this shit isn't a shitshow have been RoboCop and Still Wakes the Deep and they weren't perfect showcases either.
I've noticed the worst offenders tend to be open world games.
So yeah it's a shitshow.

>>725235594
i was gonna type the same thing but i was eating.
OPs image literally looks like modded fallout 4

>QUICK TO THE UNREAL ENGINE 5
>WOOOOOOOOAHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAHHHHHH OH GOD OH GOD OH MY GOD
>PETER WHAT THE HELL
>JOE JOE GET INSIDE THE SHADERS ARE STILL COMPILING
>WHAT THE HELL PETER THE CPU IS HITTING 90 DEGREES
>WOAAAAAAAAA- O, O, O, O, O, O-
*UE5.exe has stopped responding*

>>725232473 (OP)
they built their entire rendering around things that make the picture look fucking ugly

>>725243632
gem

>>725232473 (OP)
Right-wing white supremacist Zionist grifter.

>>725239401
No one said anything like that. We're just mentioning games from a decade ago that look the same if not better.

>>725241176
UE5's real-time lighting takes a few frames to resolve so what you're seeing is the light bouncing around giving you a fully lit scene instead of eye adaptation or auto exposure

>>725235354
it's no open world game but the maps are pretty big

>>725233705
These don't really look like something that couldn't run on an Xbox 360, but hey! An actual halo in the sky this time. Is this a newer build?!

>>725232625
>graphical glitches as actual game mechanics
would be kino