Thread 725238350

Woke garbage.

>>725238350 (OP)

>this thread again

>>725238459
Plz understand, /pol/ got BTFO hard in the recent American elections, like they lost every race across the country, so they're trying anything to get back their voters with rage bait video game culture war threads.

Now Dutch, if a feller wants to chaw another feller's willy, well now I don't reckon it's our place to stop him.

>>725238350 (OP)

>by the year 1899, the van der linde gang was fully reaping the benefits of multiculturalism and gender and racial equality, fighting back against inbred hick scum and bigotry

I thought there would be more murder and implied rape. John made it sound like it was Hell's Angels when he was with them but they really don't do anything so devastating or horrible. Bill's gang is far more hardcore in the first game.

>>725238350 (OP)

I thought after Call of Duty 2 where you could play as a Nazi we would be able to play as a Nazi in a cool story where he fucks up the Jew world.

>>725242980

I think the story could've gone either way but the aesthetic of RDR1 definitely goes well with really fucking dark, gory, evil shit. 2 is very emotionally complex and it's a pretty optimistic story, but I feel like Dan Houser could've taken it a different direction and just made the game Blood Meridian-tier levels of evil. That might've been kino, or maybe it wouldn't have been. Even he admitted in the (((Lex Friedman))) interview that gameplay limitations changed the story and that he was thinking of taking things a different direction.

>>725244284
I guess that's why I really enjoy Red Dead 1 far more. Everything is realistically bleak, cycle's of violence that just keep unfolding. The way Jack talks about the original gang just makes you think that they were the most heinous individuals you ever met and that Jack was just as guilty as them. This is further amplified when you learn that Bill and Javier are being protected by a mexican dictator whose soldiers rape and murder constantly. Everything's despicable, even the federal marshals, and you only get a short break from all of it on John's ranch where is his momentarily gunned down like a savage. Red Dead 2 has some nice character moments, but I got whiplash from it. I thought we would see the Van Der Linde gang devolve into something horrific and monstrous but its really just one guy who is blatantly a fed feeding Dutch bad info until Dutch goes full retard. I expected a Heart of Darkness journey, but I guess that wouldn't be commercially appealing. Maybe that was for the best. I don't know.

>>725244284
1 is your run of the mill spaghetti western from the 60s and 70s, 2 is the modern western which tries desperately to deconstruct the genre and in doing so ends up missing what people liked about it. Basically whenever people rip-off Tarantino it ends up being shit just like how the new Wolfenstein games are inferior to the old ones.

>>725245707

Nobody here is saying 2 was a bad game or a shit story bud, but if you want to talk about ripping off, RDR2 ripped the train robbery straight for The Assassination of Jesse James, down to the cinematography. The point is it's no secret that both games take great parts from movies and literature and sort of copy them and make kino. I enjoyed 2, but every Western is gritty. Westerns are ugly and tough, 2 was real pretty and visually clean. My original reply was that 1 maybe could've been a cooler game if it was dark as fuck, and maybe that would've gone better with the themes and art design. Dan Houser pretty much wrote the game and all we can think about is what could've been. No writer/game is perfect and Dan is not a legend tier writer, he's a good one, but there are times where you feel like he blunders.