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Anonymous No.725343741 [Report] >>725345003 >>725345386 >>725345459 >>725345792 >>725345875 >>725345942 >>725346197 >>725346402 >>725346481 >>725348695 >>725349021 >>725349675 >>725350285 >>725351629 >>725354146 >>725354479 >>725354643 >>725354705 >>725354759 >>725355140 >>725355747 >>725361865 >>725366630 >>725366746 >>725368453 >>725368889 >>725371654 >>725372069
>"The oldest/worst one is actually the best entry!"
Anonymous No.725344913 [Report] >>725345003 >>725346130 >>725359224 >>725360854 >>725363445 >>725371924
Old good new bad
Anonymous No.725344992 [Report]
It's true most of the time though. And not even because old = good but because the first tends to be the more experimental and most complete of its artistic vision.
Anonymous No.725345003 [Report] >>725354813
>>725343741 (OP)
>>725344913
this is often true thoughbeit
Anonymous No.725345329 [Report]
It's usually the 2nd one because they fix the first version, by them time 3 comes around they start to "experiment" or just sell out their IP.
Anonymous No.725345386 [Report]
>>725343741 (OP)
in a lot of cases it is so

bnidu gmaes went to shit generally in around 2011
Anonymous No.725345459 [Report] >>725360950
>>725343741 (OP)
yes?
Anonymous No.725345612 [Report]
The original experience is often the best. It's only late comers that missed the novelty that disagree. Or rather the novelty was applied to the first entry played.
Anonymous No.725345693 [Report]
Ff8
Anonymous No.725345757 [Report] >>725346197
Me too hombre.
Anonymous No.725345792 [Report]
>>725343741 (OP)
i can think of plenty more games where the first one is still my favorite even if i have favorites that are second or third in other series
Anonymous No.725345875 [Report] >>725355150
>>725343741 (OP)
name 14 games
Anonymous No.725345887 [Report] >>725346032 >>725346357 >>725346471 >>725350285
>the game is good because the rest of the fanbase hates it, so us vocal minority will defend it to the heat death of the universe and shit on all the other games of the series
Anonymous No.725345942 [Report]
>>725343741 (OP)
>old = bad
you need to be 18 years of age or older to use this site
Anonymous No.725346032 [Report]
>>725345887
I THINK MAJORAS MASK SUCKS
Anonymous No.725346130 [Report] >>725356057
>>725344913
Anonymous No.725346197 [Report] >>725346309 >>725346991
>>725343741 (OP)
Works both ways, too, at least for the "oldest" part.
A: The oldest game is the best one, meaning the devs used the profits and fame from the first game to then put out a whole mediocre/dumbed-down/bad franchise as fewer and fewer people can know or experience the original. A is common with RPGs, as they've gone simpler and more "streamlined for the wider audience" over time. This leads to the "I'm tired, boss" GIF.
B: People are blinded by nostalgia and constantly babble about how the first, clunkiest, least-polished game of a series is just some "underrated gem", and that you're stupid for not understanding this, or that you're too young to understand (regardless of what your actual age is.) Sometimes this even eventually leads to the devs making some "love letter" to the fans of the original, but then they "don't get it right" and this leads to more bitching from original fans. B is common with MMOs, where most of the "this game sucks now, I miss the original" is actually just missing back when MMOs had way more players and more "community" than the Discord/LFG hellscape it is now. This all leads to the "I'm tired, boss" GIF.

"Worst" entry is harder to pinpoint because "worst" is super subjective and just leads to arguments over what's so bad/good about it.
I think the only times it's truly fitting the GIF is when it's one of those things where a new game in a franchise does something that pulls in a ton of outsider fans, like the BG3 bear sex, DmC DMC rebooting the shit out of the series, MH World becoming a lot more cinematic and "polished" than the previous games.

>>725345757
Based.
Also, 100% if BG3 didn't have all the sex/relationship stuff in it (especially the bear meme), the game would've sold less than half of what it did, maybe under a third. That bear alone was HUGE for marketing, speaking as someone who loves the psychology of advertising but isn't dead inside enough to try to become a real marketer peddling slop to people.
Anonymous No.725346309 [Report] >>725346991
>>725346197
That's true I only bought BG3 because of the bear to see what all the fuss was about.
Anonymous No.725346357 [Report] >>725350483
>>725345887
examples? i can only think of obsessive sh2 fans shitting on pretty much every other game in the series at every opportunity but sh2 wasn't hated by others
Anonymous No.725346402 [Report]
>>725343741 (OP)
>Every Fromsoftware thread having that fag that tries to tell us that DSII is the best
Anonymous No.725346471 [Report]
>>725345887
this is literally totk, botw
Anonymous No.725346481 [Report]
>>725343741 (OP)
The first entry of any series is never the worst one. The worst entries are always shit like the third entry, or for longer-running IP's, the newest ones.
Like Bioshock, is Bioshock 1 the best? Probably, Bioshock 2 has better gameplay though. Is it the worst? Fuck no.
Anonymous No.725346991 [Report]
>>725346197 (me)
100% the first thing I think of when it comes to people liking bad games though, it's the Pokemon games on Switch. All of them range from "ass" to "meh", with PLA being one of those "could've been amazing, but some people like it for what it is" games.
Outside of that, probably gacha games.
>"here, try this great new gacha game, the rates are great and the art is amazing!"
>gameplay's the same as always
>everything under SSR is trash from Hour 1 because the "great rates" basically make SSR the bottom tier
>hit a paywall after a few days
>all the PVP stuff is P2W as hell
>notification dots litter the screen like stars

Liking bad AND old games, the trophy probably goes to the fans of the original releases of Pokemon Blue and Red on the original Game Boy. Those games are broken, busted, there's few Pokemon to pick from, movelists are garbage, everything's unbalanced as shit.
There's moves that don't work, moves that do the opposite of what they're supposed to, the art is a wreck because the game was finished before the art was available for the game to use, Missingno and Friends are easy glitches to trigger, even by accident, bricking your whole game.
Nope, they're the best ones because they have "soul", and FRLG ruined it irreparably!

>>725346309
You're a dumbass for buying a game entirely on a whim like that, but I don't blame you, half the internet was talking about the bear sex, either making fun of it, praising it, joking about it, making reaction images of it, writing angry posts about it and so on.
Anonymous No.725348695 [Report]
>>725343741 (OP)
imo all sequels automatically get a lower score simply for being sequels.
Anonymous No.725348976 [Report] >>725355261
2nd one is usually the best.
Dark souls 2
Baldur's gate 2
Div os 2
Battlefield 2
Evil within 2
Resident evil 2
Diablo 2
Warcraft 2
Mario 2
DMC 2
Uncharted 2
Sonic 2
Tony Hawk 2
Dragon age 2

Etc
Anonymous No.725349021 [Report]
>>725343741 (OP)
Demon's SHIT.
Anonymous No.725349675 [Report] >>725349918 >>725350245
>>725343741 (OP)
AC1 is unironically excellent, I felt it nailed the dispassionate, disconnected life of a merc. No VA, no humans, barely any story, it's kino.
Anonymous No.725349918 [Report] >>725350048
>>725349675
>No VA
You didn't play the game.
Anonymous No.725350048 [Report]
>>725349918
Oh yeah the different core heads have different voices. Did the AI boss have VA? It's been a while, I mainly meant for mission briefings.
Anonymous No.725350245 [Report]
>>725349675
Phantasma was hilarious to me.
>hey there's this organization called doomsday organization making a project we gotta stop them I'll hire you
>oh you defeated everything and everyone thank you so much c-can I work with you again senpai?
>your MC just turns away, finally proving himself to not be a nuisance, walks into a helicopter and flies away with a mission well done
Anonymous No.725350285 [Report]
>>725343741 (OP)
Halo CE (out of the Bungie titles)
>>725345887
Yakuza 3
Anonymous No.725350483 [Report]
>>725346357
Dark Souls 2
Batman Arkham Origins
Anonymous No.725350534 [Report] >>725354909 >>725372695
Assassin's creed 1,
Mass effect 1,
Gears of war 1,
Ocarina of time (first 3d Zelda)
Pokémon red/blue
Fable 1
Dungeon keeper 1
Witcher 1

These are all examples of firsts that defined a genre so hard that sequels can never match up and deliver the same feeling as the original.

I always end up playing the first entry and then never enjoying any sequels because the first game tends to already properly explore the gameplay and world.

Yes I don't play a lot of games anymore because if the game feels like I already played something similar or a spiritual successor I lose interest.

The fucked up thing in this industry is that most people played the 2nd entry first because of the hype the first game got which make people bandwagon into buying the second game and then retroactively shit on the first for being inferior and outdated, which is weird because the second entry is always derivative of the original.

This might also just be an age thing. I played all of these games at launch and obviously young people aren't going to go back and play these classics in release order. But for us oldfags all of these franchises were completely new for us. We were here since the start of gaming as we know it so we played all first entries and realize the first one is always best because it's the innovative title. By the time the second entry comes out you're already done with the mechanics the original game introduced
Anonymous No.725350595 [Report]
I'm gonna be real all I got is The Last of Us for this one.
Anonymous No.725350602 [Report] >>725351496
why did you post a "lunchtime rowdy" as your image OP? you know it's going to attract shitposting!
Anonymous No.725351496 [Report] >>725356363 >>725361743 >>725373186
>>725350602
This is universal in every ghetto. Even the one I live in in Europe. Got first shot at at age 11. Had my own gun before turning 13. My dad, brothers and mother have all shot someone before.

Me and my sister are considered special in the family for never having killed someone. The neighborhood was so jaded and used to it we used to make fun and play around fresh corpses from shootouts.

No one talks about it though because it was the 1990s before the internet and Europe got a lot better in terms of crime (unlike what weird chuds seem to think)
Anonymous No.725351629 [Report]
>>725343741 (OP)
Many such cases.
Anonymous No.725354074 [Report]
>oldest/worst game in the series has a lot of underrated features that were never brought back
>discussing these features with fans of the other games
>oldest/worst game fans come in and praise the game as a flawless masterpiece because of said features
>reputation of oldest/worst game and its fans worsens even more
Anonymous No.725354146 [Report] >>725354690 >>725366810
>>725343741 (OP)
noone can say with a straight face that DS2 and Demon Souls are the best.
Anonymous No.725354479 [Report] >>725354743
>>725343741 (OP)
Checks out when it comes to pokemon,soulslop,call of duty,unreal tournament,elder scrolls and much more
Anonymous No.725354643 [Report]
>>725343741 (OP)
I'm often willing to at least take these claims at face value, but one time it like pure, unfiltered contrarianism more than ever was when I fell for the contingent of people claiming Persona 2 was the most daring entry in the series with an amazing story and characters. Innocent Sin is one of the worst Atlus games I've played and I've played many.
Anonymous No.725354690 [Report] >>725366810
>>725354146
Demon's is different enough from the rest of the series so I wouldn't be surprised if it's someone's favorite
Anonymous No.725354705 [Report] >>725354813
>>725343741 (OP)
Diablo 1 for me.
Anonymous No.725354743 [Report] >>725363246
>>725354479
>Elder scrolls
Lol?
Anonymous No.725354759 [Report]
>>725343741 (OP)
yep
Anonymous No.725354813 [Report] >>725368594
>>725345003
>>725354705
ye

silent hill
mega man
star fox
Anonymous No.725354909 [Report]
>>725350534
>Assassin's creed 1
I remember making fun of my homies for playing this when it first came out
>be only hooded nigga in the city with a distinct outfit
>shank a nigga in broad daylight
>do a quadruple pits to chesty backflip off a church steeple into a hay bale
>sit on a bench in my same gay assassin uniform while town guards run around like chickens with their heads cut off
Don't forget muh DNA memories
Anonymous No.725355140 [Report] >>725368694
>>725343741 (OP)
yeah. or worse, they claim the least clunky and most respectful of your time entry in the series is the absolute worst and marks the death of the series. it doesn't help that the people here can be so goddamned wrapped up in their own contrarianism and fart sniffing that they believe a well made game with millions of players is somehow utter garbage just because it's popular.
Anonymous No.725355150 [Report]
>>725345875
Quake
Silent Hill
Dead Space
Diablo
Assassin's Creed
Fallout
Dead Rising
Dishonored
Yoshi platformers
Starcraft
Deus Ex
Half-Life
Dragon Age
Dark Souls

All series that peaked on their first entry.
Anonymous No.725355261 [Report]
>>725348976
> Warcraft 2
Over the line. The alliance and horde are effectively pallet swaps apart from the absolutely hideously OP horde units.
Still fun, and disco is pure soul, but saying it’s better than WC3 is pure contrarianism
Anonymous No.725355747 [Report] >>725360161
>>725343741 (OP)
I've seen this movie 3 times. The black guy was 100% guilty
Anonymous No.725356057 [Report]
>>725346130
That looks nice, but the world was already set on course to become what it is today. It's simply the post-WWII liberal paradigm playing out to its logical conclusion.
Anonymous No.725356363 [Report] >>725361051
>>725351496
what post-soviet shithole part of "Europe" do you live in?
Anonymous No.725359224 [Report]
>>725344913
fpbp
Anonymous No.725360161 [Report]
>>725355747
>and you're the captain of the football team... buuuuut
Anonymous No.725360470 [Report]
For me it’s
>replying filtered to every instance of bad or unfair design
>pretending a poorly designed game is actually good because that makes it hard
I’m explicitly talking about X6fags
Anonymous No.725360854 [Report]
>>725344913
Unironic truth.
Anonymous No.725360950 [Report]
>>725345459
the remaster is objectively better
Anonymous No.725361051 [Report] >>725361286
>>725356363
Serbia
Anonymous No.725361286 [Report] >>725361348
>>725361051
do you like your president? seems like a weirdo.
Anonymous No.725361348 [Report]
>>725361286
just another parasite
Anonymous No.725361743 [Report]
>>725351496
>My dad, brothers and mother have all shot someone before.
Baliju ili šiptara?
Asking for a friend.
Anonymous No.725361865 [Report]
>>725343741 (OP)
generally true, the bad new IPs never get a sequel so the first entry in a franchise had to have at least been decent.
Anonymous No.725363246 [Report]
>>725354743
yeah what? Skyrim sucks cocks and only serves as a sandbox for gooners
Anonymous No.725363445 [Report]
>>725344913
This is the truth.
Anonymous No.725364426 [Report]
>somber tale about children witnessing horrors of war
>turned into a franchise nobody wants
Anonymous No.725366630 [Report]
>>725343741 (OP)
It's indians. There are billions of them on the internet now. It's always them or their bots.
Anonymous No.725366746 [Report]
>>725343741 (OP)
Sometimes it's true like dark souls for example but yeah this shit really needs to stop.
Anonymous No.725366810 [Report]
>>725354146
>>725354690
Demon's Souls is the best.
Anonymous No.725368453 [Report]
>>725343741 (OP)
DOOM
Anonymous No.725368594 [Report] >>725368818
>>725354813
In the case of Megaman, it's Megaman 2 which is the best one. But close to the beginning.
Anonymous No.725368694 [Report]
>>725355140
>the least clunky and most respectful of your time entry in the series is the absolute worst and marks the death of the series.
this is always true.
"respecting the player's time" by definition means sacrificing the game to the consumer sludge flume.
It's the player's job to respect the game's pacing.
Anonymous No.725368818 [Report]
>>725368594
i liked mega man 1 more
Anonymous No.725368889 [Report]
>>725343741 (OP)
new games suck. glad you understand.
Anonymous No.725370316 [Report]
>When somebody tells me GTA3 is their favorite
Anonymous No.725371654 [Report]
>>725343741 (OP)
Corpse Party
Stronghold
Anno
Gothic
Anonymous No.725371924 [Report]
>>725344913
Anonymous No.725372069 [Report]
>>725343741 (OP)
I almost thought this was one of those
>the weakest is actually the strongest
threads kek.
Anonymous No.725372182 [Report] >>725373238
>tfw you finally realize that a game franchise is indeed shit and it only has one or two good games
Anonymous No.725372695 [Report]
>>725350534
>Fable 1
Say what you want about it F1, 3 was shit and 2 leaned too much away from medieval fantasy and too much towards MMO emotes in a single player game and a dog owner simulator.
Anonymous No.725373186 [Report]
>>725351496
All those migrants who commit most of the crimes in Europe according to crime statistics must be fake then.
Anonymous No.725373238 [Report]
>>725372182
Yakuza