Thread 725377834

>He is a demigod out of time
>Fighting for a golden age that can never dawn again
>The primarch reborn demands the impossible
Titusbros, was Leandros right about our guy? Were we the heretics?

Brother Reclusiarch Leandros was always right.

were are these shitposts about /our/ best boy coming from? did something happened with the games that im missing?

>>725379304
only in the tabletop

>>725379304
Gorillaman asked him to retake every world that originally belonged to Ultramar.

>>725379304
Titus has become officially canon on the tabletop and has ascended the ranks to become Captain of the 2nd Company again with a new title of Warden of Ultramar.
Most recently he's been tasked by Guilliman himself to reclaim the 500 Worlds of Ultramar from the necrons.
He's joined by Gadriel and Metaurus, the latter was the astartes that selected him to become an Ultramarine to begin with.

>>725380468
Does this confirm Space Marine 3 will be about fighting Necrons?

>>725377834 (OP)
Space Marines do not worthip the Primarchs or the emperor. It is normal for a space marine, especially for a veteran one, to have some doubts and criticisms even if private ones of the Primarchs given how they know their history and nature.

>>725380505
Between Demerium being a tomb world and necrons being the primary threat for Titus' new campaign? Most likely.

>>725380468
Whatever happened to Cato Sicarius then? Wasn't he the captain of the 2nd company?

>>725380468
>Ultramar is close to Tau space
>let's do necrons AGAIN
Fuck GW.

ULTRAMAR

>>725380521
Guilliman actually likes it when his sons talk back to him instead of blindly following his word.
>>725380468
Also notable that Leandros has not been mentioned yet while Acheran, the captain of 2nd company in SM2 will most likely end up dying in the story reveal next week.

>>725380597
IIRC Sicarius went missing for a while and when he came back he was made chief of Guilliman's personal guard with Captain "I Can Only Spare Three Men" Acheran replacing him as head of the 2nd company.

>>725377834 (OP)
Leandros is a filthy karen marine who got forced into Chaplaincy by Calgar as punishment for selling out Titus to the Inquisition and breaking protocol.
He will never become Sergeant and his chances of becoming Captain and later Chapter Master are thus denied.

Leandros will never be trusted by his brothers as long as he's not wearing the helmet and calls himself Quintus, and if he tries anything funny then Calgar and Cassius will have a talk with him.

>>725380597
The line of succession for 2nd Company Captain as far as we know went
>Titus (gets taken by the Inquisition)
>Cato (becomes Commander of the Victrix Honor Guard)
>Acheran (is the captain during the events of SM2)
>Titus again

>>725379304
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH0WYxJDwms

>>725380597
Promoted to Captain of Guilliman's personal guard.

>>725380597
He's head of the Victrix guard now

>>725380521
>Space Marines do not worthip the Primarchs or the emperor
They do, they have all rituals, prayers and shit, Marines simply don't call Emperor as God, but worship him and primarchs all the same.They are doing the same shit ministorum does but refuse to use word "God".
There are exeptions like Black Templars but that's a minority.

>>725377834 (OP)
>Titusbros, was Leandros right about our guy?
Yes.

>>725379304
The trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hrulR3PhGY

>>725377834 (OP)
>Titusbros, was Leandros right about our guy? Were we the heretics?
He got a new model. So no.

>>725377834 (OP)
Why did he get bogged?

>>725380769
What happened to Acheran then?

>>725380468
How many marines did Guilliman spare him for that task?

>>725380928
Them Primaris genes kicking in.

>>725380846
No way it was intentional

>>725380846
Damn who's the guy on the right? He looks awesome

>>725380928
Blur changed models

>>725380964
Dead, probably

>>725380964
Either dreadnought or dead we'll find out soon

>>725380964
We will know sometime next week

>>725380597
Tard wrangled personally by Girlyman.

>>725380746
>headcanon
Getting promoted to Chaplain isn't punishment.

>>725380632
GW is trying to whitewash the Spesh Muhreens into heroic and noble space knights as opposed to the fanatical space nazis they actually are, thus they can only be shown fighting more monstrous factions like the Tyranigs, Orks, Necrons, Chaos and maybe Dark Eldar if we get lucky and even have the evil space elves depicted.

This is because when shown next to Eldar and the Tau, the Space Marines look like the genocidal monsters they actually are.

>>725377834 (OP)
Man this game was garbage. Choosing Thousand Sons as the main enemy was incredibly boring choice too. Killing Rubicon Marines without physical bodies didn't feel fun at all.

I'm sick of hearing about primarchs and what "Guilliman" and "Lionel Johnson" want tbqh

>>725381165
Lion is doing nothing but hanging out on the otherside of the bad chaos thing.

>>725380632
considering they loves the enemy faction twist in the middle of the game,it would be cool if we start fighting necrons and we got Tau in te end

>>725381165
But what about what Sanguinius would've wanted?

>>725381512
>fight over necron pylon thingy
>some tech-priest/inquisitor/peirst/administratum clerk does the thing to it
>bam warp portal opens
>BLOOD FOR THE GREATER GOOD
>bunch of tau fire warriors and battlesuits comes in

>>725380928
Why indeed. He used to look good in SM1. Then got severely downgraded for SM2.

>>725381656
that would be cool....extra point if they manage to make the tau menacing

>>725381141
In Leandros's case it is fool. And that's not a headcanon but fucking logic.
He broke protocol that was written in the Codex on how to deal with suspicions on Chaos taint.
He sold out his own Captain to the Inquisition instead of keeping this in-house as every Chapter does. You think nobody knows what he did? You think Calgar wouldn't put 1+1 together?

Chaplains are spiritual leaders, but all authority goes partially to the Captain and everything to the Chapter Master and Leandros before that was very promising battle brother who got moved at a young age to the 1st Company which is a rare thing among Space Marine Chapters in general.
So not only is he denied the chance for potential Captaincy and potential chance to be elected Chapter Master, if he cries heretic without any actual proof and will again break protocol then he will have to deal with either Cassius (Master of Sanctity) or Calgar who can and will IMPERIAL FIST him.

As long as he wears the helmet and is Quintus, he can function normally. But after the 1st game nobody would trust him after what he did.

>>725380468
Soulless team compared to his original one, Sidonus and Leandros never forget.

>>725382050
Blah blah headcanon

Being promoted to Chaplain is never a punishment

Even in the game and in the short animated flick the 2nd company Space Marines are wary of Titus

>>725381771
Duh. He looks like a guy who was accused of rape, was tormented by people and once he was proven innocent he ended up as a bitter, rage-filled shell of himself.

>>725381771
And Mark Strong

leandros haters are pathetic

>>725382191
Forced into Chaplaincy. Not promoted dipshit.
>Space Marines are still vary of Titus
Oh yeah. Because they didn't knew his circumstances and after the game everything was dissipated. Thus argument invalid.

>>725381141
>Getting promoted to Chaplain isn't punishment.
Explain the name change.

>>725380972
All of 2nd Company, some human auxilia, and some first company bladeguards.

>>725381771
What psychic interrogation (mindrape) and regular interrogation for decades does to a nigga.

>>725382338
There was no indication he was "forced" as a Chaplain

Chaplains are promoted from zealous Space Marines which Leandros was one

>>725382782
Explain then the name change to Quintus and why he constantly wears a helmet?
Because a marine doesn't change his name unless due to specific circumstances.
>Zealous
So damn zealous that he had no hesitation in breaking protocol and selling his captain to the Inquisition.

>>725382050
>He broke protocol that was written in the Codex on how to deal with suspicions on Chaos taint.
Show me where it is written in the Codex that when you suspect a high ranking astartes of chaos corruption, you're not allowed to contact any outside anti-chaos instituations about it. Any book quote or Codex writ will do.

You won't, because there isn't, because this is nonsense fans made up.
>You think nobody knows what he did? You think Calgar wouldn't put 1+1 together?
Then why did Calgar raise Leandros to the respected position of Chaplain? Inb4 "it was a punishment" LMAO

>>725380505
In the first half, we all know it will be revealed that Chaos is behind it once again.

I hope the PvE squad survived. They took down
>Hive Tyrant
>Trygon Prime
>Hierophant
>Daemonhost
>Heldrake
>Mutalith Vortex Beast

All we know about Calgar was that he was personally furious with the decision because he and Titus were apparently pretty close.

>>725382978
He didn't change names

He's still Leandros

>>725377834 (OP)
Leandros isn't in any of the 500 Worlds stuff.

Because he's going to die in Space Marine 3 when it's revealed he's alpha legion

>>725383126
He was pissed because Leanpiss went straight to the Inquisition instead of the Chaplain or Librarian

>>725383234
That sounds like the sort of shit Alpha Legion would want you to think when he's actually not Alpha Legion.

>>725383126
>All we know about Calgar was that he was personally furious with the decision because he and Titus were apparently pretty close.
We know this from the creative director of Space Marine 2, Oliver Hollis-Leick:
>Calgar didn't disapprove of Leandros' actions. While Calgar felt like Titus was innocent, he also recognized the severity of the situation and that Leandros' heart was in the right place. Calgar recognized that Leandros' "harsh gaze" was a useful asset, and could be honed with experience. Hence the chaplaincy.
>Leandros has indeed "evolved" over time, and his position is not a punishment like some players are theorizing. He's been put through hell by the chapter and his annoying qualities from the first game are gone. He is a perfect fit for being a chaplain.
Go look it up.

>>725383042
Do you still need other people to play the PVE content with or have they added single player mode for that stuff yet?

Is Space Marine 2 any good brothers? Do I need >>>friends to play online?

>>725382978
Space marines change their name easily. Hell, the Calgar changed his name to Calgar to honor a friend and he's head smurf

>>725382998
>Show me where it is written in the Codex that when you suspect a high ranking astartes of chaos corruption, you're not allowed to contact any outside anti-chaos instituations about it. Any book quote or Codex writ will do.
Still breaking protocol.
The Inquisition has power but everything Chapter-related STAYS IN THE CHAPTER. And any uppity Inquisitor only has enough power as long as the Marines give them. But the moment he crosses the line he will get a reality check.

>Then why did Calgar raise Leandros to the respected position of Chaplain? Inb4 "it was a punishment" LMAO
Read my previous posts again dipshit.

>>725383309
Oh right. Sorry but if this ain't in game, then it doesn't count.

>>725380468
Titus has been canon to the tabletop for over a year. Now, he's just the character in 40k who got a 2nd model in the shortest amount of time.

>>725383126
So furious he forgot about Titus in a standard century and promoted Leandros, whom he was smart enough to realize that he contacted the Inquisition first before the Ultramarines' own chaplains.

Saber (SM2's game devs) and GW even put out a short backstory about Leandros and Titus where the new battle brother Leandros got captured by the Eldar and in the ensuing rescue he got the captain before Titus killed.

Sergeant Titus and Sidonus rescued Leandros and the other Ultramarine scouts and the former was promoted to Captain before Cato Sicarius took the job.

>>725383415
Bots have scaling equipment so you can still technically play all of the PvE missions solo.
You could always solo it but if you played it offline then you weren't progressing in levels so there's that caveat. Online + Private Mode let's you play without other people.

>>725383456
>Still breaking protocol.
So you have no proof, thanks. Nice headcanon.

>>725383309
i only look up beebeesea porn and take estrogen then jerk my tiny white pecker

>>725383298
Whoever he's working for he's clearly trying to corrupt the 2nd company. He tried to taint Titus in SM1 and panicked and called the inquisition when Titus was immune. SM2 he's become a Chaplain and filled the 2nd company with people who already have heretical traits. Just coincidentally not at all the will of the emperor that Titus re-emerges and rejoins the second the same day the warp battery from SM1 is within Leandros grasp a second time.

Space marine secondaries are exhausting

>>725383415
>Do you still need other people to play the PVE content
Only in the highest difficulty, the bots still have trash AI but their weapons and guns scale with difficulty.

You can solo PvE easily up until Ruthless; it's near impossible with Lethal and you have to be a real pro to do it in Absolute.

The updates made Absolute look like a Fromslop game and the shit devs are constantly listening to Fromfaggots; slowly turning SM2 into a Soulslop instead of an action shooting game like Halo/GoW.

>>725383747
It's not our fault that the devs can only play on Substantial (difficulty 3).

>>725383697
>too smart for the Space Marine threads
>too dumb for the Rogue Trader threads
Pure suffering.

>>725383697
Im a PS2 Fire Warrior secondary thoughbeit

>>725383897
Can a brother get a qrd on Rogue trader? is it brainlet friendly? I only care about turn BASED combat and don't want to spend hours scrolling through text

>>725383893
The shit vatnik devs refuse to improve the bot AI and refuse bot customization outside of cosmetics.

They also abhor people easily clearing maps so they always go out of their way to overtune maps.

Players want easy, fast grind maps like Inferno and Decapitation yet all of the new maps from the past year are all 35-40 minute long maps.

>>725381771
>>725382245
The VA downgrade was pretty bad

>>725384118
I regularly clear Absolute Vortex within like 30 min.
The tip is to not use bolt weapons against chaos. Or bring a melta, trust in plasma instead.

>>725384103
>don't want to spend hours scrolling through text
Not your game then, since there isn't that much Voice Acting, so you have to do a lot of reading, but the upcoming Dark Heresy game will be fully voice acted

>>725384274
I just want to know how much of it is reading vs combat

>>725384103
It's a CRPG, the dialogue is a big part of it.

how is space mareens 2 for someone that is just getting into 40k with rogue trader?
how is the multiplayer?

>>725383674
Maybe it'll be revealed in the next game, or maybe the next or maybe the next.

itt secondaries
chaplains take a different name when they're inducted, usually the name of the previous guy who died in service or their other name; even their old pre-space marine name are valid choices
they also take their helmets off sometimes, there's literally an ultramarine chaplain model with no helmet
being inducted to the reclusiam is never a punishment, they only take strict overzealous battle brothers

>>725384426
Fun! Good introduction to the setting too, although Rogue Trader introduces more concepts and is *more* beginner friendly arguably.

>>725384364
decent split, it's not Temple of Elemental Evil level of pure combat, but it's not just a Visual novel wearing a CRPG skin

>>725384502
what kind of multiplayer does it have? something like helldivers?

>>725384426
its a action game, not a deep story game.

You are action hero dude. You are send to kill monster dudes.

Watch the cinematic trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_HljUo8Jjk

Rip and tear, till its done.

>>725380632
No one cares about the tau

>>725384682
It's got a Horde mode, a PVP mode, and Co-op Missions

>>725380468
>Metaurus selected him to become an ultramarine to begin with

Oh wise old based black man trope.

Fuck off with this modern pandering GW. Warhammer fucking sucks now.

>>725384952
>Warhammer fucking sucks now.
Time for you to leave them.

>>725384952
He recruited young Titus and until ending of the short film he spent centuries flogging himself for making that mistake because like Leandros he thought Titus was plagued with unexplained corruption.

>>725380597
He is off soloing the chaos gods

>>725385115
Prolly been a fan longer than you secondary. I just hate how bad Warhammer has been infested.
>>725385130
It really sucks that the short didnt focus on JUST Titus. But I guess BlackRock funded anything has to shove in their diversity wherever they can.

>>725384103
its easy to be overpowered in RT and everything just makes more sense than pathfinder. also incredibly long 100+ hour campaign. probably overall the best intro to 40k besides dawn of war and space marine.

>>725385307
>le racism meme
you'll never fit in

>>725385307
Yet you will consume GWslop. Good goyim

>>725385457
He's just gonna reply to you with some schizo post about diversity or something.

>>725377834 (OP)
https://youtu.be/zmmFRi522tc?si=R5x9wj9sfjfwCGSy
Chadandros was obviously right the Codex Atartes supports it.

>>725380597
Went through some characterization and development.

>>725377834 (OP)
The Emperor personally resurrects Titus in Space Marine 2, so no, Leandros was incorrect.

Are Rogue trader DLC a must?

>>725380468
This set's funny to me. It's clear that Titus got upgraded to Captain again because of Space Marine's 2 success last year and the complaints about here being no easily attainable Titus model.
Then they likely planned for both Chairon and Gadriel to be up lifted with him so you keep the White Man, Asian Man, Black Man commander Squad. But someone at GW then probably realized that if they wanna make Titus captain and that as tabletop canon, it needs a big event. So they tie it into the end of edition campaign.
But then they also have to had realized, that Titus is the only one with a cinematic model thanks to Secret Level already being made in time to get a cinematic out so short in this production line. So they look at Chairon, look back at Secret Level and say
>Yeah, let's just throw Metaurus in the set instead so we've still got our Black Space Marine and don't need to make a unique cinematic model for the trailer.

>>725381148
>>725381148
>>725381148
Wait what do you mean space nazis?

Were literally the good guys trying to survive against xenos trying to kill us?

>>725380309
Damn, can he at least get 3 good man instead of 2?

>>725380769
>Titus again
Acheran was always going to bite the dust, he died in his first appearance back when vanguard marines were launched during the Vigilus campaign.

If anything, I'm shocked how accurately they represented him as a character considering he was a nobody 2nd company captain.

>>725385948
>and the complaints about here being no easily attainable Titus model.
Gays Workslop released a Titus model during the release of Space Marine 2 but it's for their board game and not the real tabletop.

>>725386131
Fuck you, bagpipe music started playing in my head as soon as I opened it

>>725386231
Yeah and it wasn't easily attainable for most parts of the world cause it was exclusive to that board game.
Most people are only getting his first model recently thanks to them throwing it into the encyclopaedia earlier this year

>>725380505
I really hope not, tyranids are fucking perfect and necrons would be more like fighting the thousand sons all over again

>>725385841
You can play the game without it but they're both good, void shadows is a 9/10

Do you think we'll fight Xenos in Boltgun 2 or will it just be more Chaos bitches?

>>725386231
Not that anon but I thought 40k was a board game?

>>725385457
>It's not real because the TV told me so! :D~~~
You'll never be intelligent.

>>725386170
>Acheran dies
Personally, I think this is what he gets for being a space marine captain equipped with only a knife

>>725386460
who the fuck watches tv in 2025 you retard
im convinced people like you are just mississippi retards

>>725386329
The graphical update can only be so major so I wouldn't be surprised if they brought over Tyranids again.
Synapse backlash make for a satisfying horde to kill.

>>725386367
Necrons and Death Guard from the trailer

That means Necron Warriors won't die until after being shot a dozen times and Plague Marines have one million HP but they walk really slow

>>725386170
2nd Company loses like 2/3rds of their marines under his command too. I mean a Thousand Son chaos incursion and a splinter hive fleet will do that to you I suppose.
The upcoming new mission for SM2 PvE has 3 squads wiping over comms too while the player squad fights Tyranid Primes.

>>725386370
Games Workshop occasionally shits out actual themed board games with either unique models to sell, or tie into something and then shoving a bunch of models into it to get rid of stock.
People typically think of stuff like Underworlds, Warhammer Quest, Space Hulk as board games that come with their own boards rules, etc
While the main 40k games are tabletop strategy games.

Space Marine 2 had a board game that gave you Titus' first model and a bunch of left over Tyranid stock and some cardboard to play a Space Marine 2 themed board game on that came out around launch.
Darktide had the same thing last year, but they didn't throw a single unique model in

>>725386554
>Synapse backlash make for a satisfying horde to kill.
It also served a real gameplay purpose, because it rewarded you for focusing down warriors instead of kiting hordes around. Thousand Sons feel annoying for many reasons, but part of it is that when you kill a majoris only cultists will die. Tzaangors don't give a shit and will keep jumping on you.

I haven't played since a few months before the horde mode/siege mode/whatever they called it mode. Is the game worth replaying or did they add diddly dick all since the prestige perks

>>725383893
>It's not our fault that the devs can only play on Substantial (difficulty 3).
What is it with co-op game devs and sucking at their game(Helldivers 2 devs playing at sucking dick at D4)? Am I the one who's being unreasonable in asking for FUN difficulty?

>>725386170
Vanguard Primaris are the most gay and lame, so it was foretold just by his existence.

>>725385841
it adds a lot of content. basically like an expansion that runs along with the main story

>>725386649
>but part of it is that when you kill a majoris only cultists will die
See, not even that happens.
I wish killing a sorc would stun nearby rubricae and terminators though. Or even killing an enlightened tzaangor would demoralize its lesser brethren.

>>725386630
It happens again in Indomitus, where half of the 2nd company is wiped out by necrons along with their captain and one of their lieutenants.
Whether this takes place before or after Vigilus (and thus before/after SM2) is anyone's guess because they retconned the Indomitus Crusade from being 100 years to being 10 years in 9th ed.

>>725386571
Oh, nice. I wonder if we're on the same planet from Space Marines 1 and Boltgun 1?

One planet invaded by Orks, Necrons, Black Legion Space Marines, Death Guard Space Marines and 3 different flavors of Chaos Demons.

>>725386370
Side games like Blackstone Fortress are meant to be board games.

Mainline 40k used to be/should be a bit different.
the boardgame-ification of Warhammer 40k is considered a recent negative trend.
In theory it was born as a wargame, which is a simulation of what would happen in a given situation.
In time realism and even verisimilitude winded down significantly, while competitiveness and fairness dictated that things that would be unequal be treated as peers for the sake of "balance".
These things bring 40k away from its wargame origin, and towards a boardgame future.
Some still consider the game to be outside of board gaming (and within simulation/wargaming). At this point it's an echo of the past.

>>725382667
is that going to be enough to reclaim 500 worlds from necrons

>>725386864
>See, not even that happens.
It does, but you might not notice it. Cultists that have no majoris around will explode into those flying skull things that chase you.

>>725386823
I don't even really mind phobos when its done right (I like both vanguard and sniper in SM2 co-op, but am not a fan of the super tacticool units) but he's a let down of a "sniper captain" archetype.

>>725385998
yeah that's what he said

>Cyrus dies (as a Phobosfaggot)
>Titus promoted again as 2nd company captain
Blud Rehvans BTFO

>>725386635
Are any of the board games fun?
I don’t play 40k but I’ve seen boxes of like kill team and underworlds whenever I’m at nerd buildings

>>725387023
Oh right, yeah that eventual doombolt sacrifice.
I always assumed that occurred on a time limit.

>>725387019
No, but that's why they're likely going to get some help along the way by what other factions end up getting involved in 500 worlds, with Necrons likely not being the final boss. It's the end of narrative campaign for the edition, Titus is just book 1. Last editions end of edition narrative campaign saw both Angron and the Lion getting models so there's a chance for big characters to come into play later

>>725387182
I think cyrus "dies" as a normal marine but is saved by becoming a primaris

>>725387182
Acheran was a phobos wearing captain who also will most likely die.

>>725385998
The Imperium just as at fault over the precarious situation humanity finds itself in 40k as the other factions within the setting are, if not even more so.
Obviously races like the Orks, Tyranids, Dark Eldar and the Necrons are outright hostile towards humanity even without the imperium being a thing, not to mention the insidious nature of Chaos however the galaxy used to have multitude of more placid and co-operative aliens which the Emperor wiped out during the great crusade, and/or were wiped out later by the imperium. Some of those races even lived alongside with humanity in peace and were still put to the sword along with the humans who tolerated them.

The Craftworld Eldar and the Tau would have no reason to be as hostile to humanity as a whole without the Imperium having the go to policy of genocide towards both of them, and even still the Tau and the Eldar are arguably far more merciful and tolerant of humanity than humanity in 40k deserves. Only the Biel-Tan among the craftworlders view humanity rightly as the vermin that need to be eradicated that humanity in 40k actually are.
The Leagues of Votan basically larp as xenos when the Imperials are around because they do not want the imperium to get in their heads that they have any claim on the kin if they were to find out that they are an offshoot of humanity that established itself in the galactic core. Basically the nusquats would rather be seen as a xenos species by the imperials than for the imperium to recognize them as humans because in their view the imperium is a barbaric, backwards shithole that they want no association with.

>tl;dr the imperium is fucking shit, and not the good guys of the setting. They are the primary reason why even otherwise potentially co-operative and friendly aliens would rather shoot humans on sight than deal with them.

>>725387216
Kill Team is a good game right now, but I bit FOMO IMO since it's sold in a weird format
Underworlds is a mess right now and will be squatted soon.
New BloodBowl is fine

>>725387321
Acheran has been canonically dead since the book that introduced his character and tabletop model.

>>725387373
>Kill Team is a good game right now
stop lying.

>>725387216
40k hasn't been fun to play in almost a decade by now. Ever since they sloppified the rules and added the gay as fuck command point system for muh special abilties and shit, the game has become pure garbage.

>>725387580
But Tank Shock is cool.

>>725387345
I agree the Tau MAY be reasonable but the Eldar more often than not aren't. You're basically dealing with people who view you the same way you'd view colonial era africans.

>>725387345
Tau want to militarily conquer human worlds, they just give them the option to give up first. If a world says no to their diplomats, they still get conquered by force.

Craftworld eldar almost universally view humans as barely above orks in terms of sentience and will gladly see billions die for even the chance to preserve one Eldar life.
This in-of-itself doesn't justify their genocide, but the bigger issue is that Craftworld Eldar aren't the Eldar that humanity interacts with the most. Dark Eldar are, and the vast majority of humanity would have no idea there's a difference between Dark Eldar raiders and Craftworlders.

>>725387286
how can you navigate in ultramar anyway
i thought emps was cut off

>>725388263
Ultramar is on the lit side of the divided galaxy, it's the other half that can't see the Astronomicon easily.

>>725388263
It's not in that part of the galaxy.

Is necrominda good

>>725388520
The videogames are a mixed bag. Hired Gun is a janky but fun game and Underhive War is really bad

>>725387373
They’re deleting underworlds? Why
It’s fun

>>725387345
>however the galaxy used to have multitude of more placid and co-operative aliens which the Emperor wiped out during the great crusade, and/or were wiped out later by the imperium. Some of those races even lived alongside with humanity in peace and were still put to the sword along with the humans who tolerated them.
that's complete revisionism.
those aliens by and large were subversive or plain treacherous. yes there were some which had not yet bared their teeth, but to represent it as some galaxy of mostly peace-seeking aliens is a complete lie.

the eldar especially, saying they have no reason to be hostile to humanity? after everything they've done? an eldar would doom a billion humans if it meant ten of his kind survive and would think nothing of it. would you kill off 90% of pigs if they had a deadly flu that could affect humans? that's how eldar think.
>more merciful and tolerant of humanity than it deserves
humanity doesn't need your permission to survive and not be murdered

>>725387373
Underworlds is fine, it's Warcry that no one is sure will keep going.

>>725388750
Eldar can co-exist with humanity, simply because the Eldar empire and the Golden Age of Technology Human empire both existed in the galaxy at the same time without much conflict (apparently)

That could have been as simple as them both staying out of each others way, like the Federation and Romulans, rather than being actual friends.

>>725387937
The Craftworld Eldar have no colonial aspirations towards humanity, they by large just want to survive and are willing to kill & use humans to achieve those goals if it comes down to that. Most of them generally just want to steer clear of the Imperium and only deal with humanity if their farseers and autharchs deem it impossible to achieve their goals without fighting or manipulation humans. Only the Biel-Tan still harbor imperial aspirations but even for them they think in the long term of millenia. The reason they guard maiden and exodite worlds is because they think that in long enough timespan, the Eldar race can rebuild itself on these worlds and reconquer the galaxy. They are under no delusions of themselves being capable of conquering humanity as it stands right now.

Tau only appear reasonable when they are on their diplomatic stance. They are still an expansionist totalitarian military empire. They just aren't genocidal like the imperium is.

>>725387996
Life under tau is still an upgrade for the average human vs the imperium because the Tau provide a better quality of life and are not as violently oppressive as the imperium is.

>Craftworld eldar almost universally view humans as barely above orks in terms of sentience and will gladly see billions die for even the chance to preserve one Eldar life.
And the Imperium would sacrifice hundreds of thousands of humans just to kill a bunch of eldar for no other reason than hatred of the xenos. The Eldar fight and kill humans when it is necessary for their own survival, the Imperium kills xenos as a matter of policy.

You are correct thought that for the imperials, distinguishing between the Craftworld Eldar, Corsairs and the Dark Eldar is often difficult, and it isn't that unreasonable why the imperium just hates the Eldar as a whole from in universe perspectives.

>>725388882
wasn't the golden age of humanity destroyed specifically by the eldar

>>725388750
>that's complete revisionism.
No it isn't. It is part of the lore of the great crusade. Interex are one of the examples of such empires where humans and xenos cohabited peacefully, and were wiped out by the great crusade.

>>725389138
Destroyed by them is a bit of a reach, I mean the Eldar themselves were victims of the Slaanesh's birth.

>>725377834 (OP)
The obvious thing they're doing is setting Leandros up as a potential traitor. I'm surprised they didn't do it for the second game, but if they keep making Space Marine games, I'm sure it'll happen. It's an extremely common trope, and they did it in DoW.

>>725389269
but it was their actions that ended the golden age of humanity.
if your roommate accidentally burns down the house, is he someone you can co-exist with?

>>725388773
>>725388773
>>725388664
>>725388651
>>725388520
Holy shit I’m a newcomer and I can’t keep up with this shit or tell the difference

Bloodbowl is literally fantasy footballl
Kill Team I’m assuming is like Siege?
Underworlds looks like 40k plus cards? Seems redundant
Quest is narrative single player or coop ok sure
Necromunda is 4 vs 4?
Warcry also looks like 4 vs 4? 2 of the same game
Crypthunters looks like 40k quest

How many fucking games do they make, everything is so splintered, are they spreading their fanbase thinly or are they desperate?

Help me /tg/!

>>725389267
>No it isn't. It is part of the lore of the great crusade. Interex are one of the examples of such empires where humans and xenos cohabited peacefully, and were wiped out by the great crusade

>>725389138
No it wasn't. It was destroyed by the combination of the men of iron rebelling and the psychic awakening of humanity leading to worlds being consumed by chaos and madness by newly woken psykers.
The only influence the Pre-fall eldar had on this process was the growth of slaanesh in the warp due to the pre-fall eldar decadence making the warp more turbulent and thus causing warp storms etc that separated human worlds from one another.

>>725389138
What caused the fall of humanity from the Golden Age is deliberately vague, and it probably wasn't any one cause.

The Men of Iron rebelled, causing a near apocalypse. Human psykers started appearing in far greater numbers than they ever had before, leading to outright chaos incursions that destroyed entire planets.

Enormous warpstorms surrounded Sol and most of the galaxy in the lead-up to Slaanesh's birth, which were only dispelled when it finally happened.

Dark Eldar (and their nearly identical pre-fall predecessors) absolutely did prey on vulnerable human worlds for slaves before the Imperium, along with nearly every other xenos that had the capacity to.

>>725389382
Humanity's golden age would have collapsed regardless of what the Eldar were doing, see>>725389423
At best the fall of the Eldar just sped along the process.

>>725389267
To be fair that wouldn't have happened had it not been for chaos meddling making diplomatic approach impossible.

>>725389532
i see, so the xenos do need to be exterminated

>>725384426
its not good. the gameplay isnt very good for replayability

>>725385457
>>725385540
why are there redditors in the thread

>>725389278
>The obvious thing they're doing is setting Leandros up as a potential traitor.
They are not.

>>725389404
Bloodbowl is fantasy rugby, it's great.

Kill Team is just small scale 40k using a more granulated system that's more about playing campaigns with models/characters that level up over the course of your games.

Underworlds is a hex based deck builder game. There are both models and cards, which both matter. Very different in gameplay from AoS or 40k, but fun.

Warhammer Quest are self-contained board games that have their own mechanics and campaigns for each individual box.

Necromunda is about growing an underhive gang and fighting other players in a continuous campaign over turf, money and loot. Almost like Blood Bowl in the sense that you are managing a team and trying to win a season/gang-war.

War Cry is like AoS' version of Kill Team. Team size can vary depending on faction, but it's played on a small board and games are 20-30 minutes.

>are they spreading their fanbase thinly or are they desperate?
Most of these are small, self-contained games that are meant to be introductions to the setting and/or fast to play. Normal 40k can take 4+ hours, Kill Team can take 30 minutes.

>>725388882
The pre-fall eldar treated humanity sort of like how fallen empires in Stellaris treat the younger civilizations, essentially by being dismissive and uncaring of the goings on of the lesser races.
You gotta understand tha by the point when humanity reached the stars, the Eldar had been ruling the galaxy for like 60 million years because the Eldar have been around as a species from the time when Dinosaurs still roamed the earth.
They are described as having been the undisputed masters of the galaxy at that time but what the nature of their empire was, is left vague. All we really know is that their empire's heart is where the eye of terror is in the contemporary 40k, that they had mastered webway travel, and that their methods of terraforming were slow and took millions of years, they essentially seeded planets with microbes and what not that would over untold millenia, turn those worlds into paradises for the Eldar. At that time the Eldar were essentially immortal, because even when they died of old age (which still took tens of thousands of years) they would just reincarnate trough the protection of their gods which were still alive before Slaanesh was born.
The eldar mastery over the galaxy and the webway was so great that they were able to trap entire stars within the webway, Commoragh is "illuminated" by such captured stars.

The Craftworlders and the Dark Eldar are pale shadows of what the pre-fall eldar were at their height. People who compare them to Golden Age of humanity do not understand what the pre-fall eldar were like in terms of their power scale. Their only comparable rivals are still the necrons and the pre-fall eldar soundly routed the necrons to a point where they had to slumber for 60 million years and wait for the pre-fall eldar to collapse.

I don't give a fuck about Leandros.
He made his judgment call and Titus is back where he belongs. The beef is squashed, Leandros will act the way he is but obviously never get Titus wrongly branded a heretic again.

>>725380468
Malumbros.....

>>725384426
It's a very fun game, if not particularly deep. Combat is nu-GoW mixed with third-person shooting and it works pretty well. Main campaign is pretty fun but basically a carbon copy of the first game, which is also pretty good. I knew virtually nothing about 40K before getting into it and it was pretty straightforward, you don't need to learn any lore or shit, as long as you pay attention everything is easy to understand.

>>725389532
the men of iron rebellion was devastating, but didn't result in a collapse. it was the complete lack of warp travel that really fucked them - just like europe entered a dark age because the muslims/vikings shut down all travel in the med/rivers.

>>725389404
They're called Games Workshop not Game Workshop anon.

>>725390104
>The pre-fall eldar treated humanity sort of like how fallen empires in Stellaris treat the younger civilizations
I think this makes sense, especially if the Eldar really just stuck to their maiden worlds and expanding the webway. Why bother going out into the regular galaxy when it's filled with orks, humans and other nonsense?

It explains why the Eye of Terror is just one spot in the galaxy and didn't take over the whole thing

>>725390306
Why is that obvious? He may be a captain but he is not above suspicion of heresy. Next time good boy Leandros is going to show up with some Grey Knight assassins to take out this warp resistant anomaly for good. He's a mutant, too unpredictable and too much of a risk for the Imperium.

>>725390104
>eir only comparable rivals are still the necrons and the pre-fall eldar soundly routed the necrons to a point where they had to slumber for 60 million years and wait for the pre-fall eldar to collapse.
you ommitted a few crucial details there :^)

>>725390857
Good way to bring in the Space Wolves then.

>>725380468
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH0WYxJDwms

>>725390758
IIRC the Eldar empire was significantly larger than the Eye of Terror, but areas outside the core slowly withered as their culture rotted over however many hundreds/thousands of years it took for it to completely fall.

>>725380632
Fuck the fishheads

>>725390923
>space yiffs
nah

>>725390306
I think SM3's last boss should be Leandros and Titus fighting side by side, ending with a grudging but mutual respect.

Brother, what does the codex astartes say about the Eldar

>>725391249
The new edition has a foreward from the Primarch explaining the sexual positions to best please our Eldar masters, brother.

>>725391229
They're the ones best suited to fighting the Inquisition and Grey Knights again.

>>725390306
Leandros and Titus actually becoming bros by the end of SM3 would be cool. Him being a traitor or misguided hater who makes bad calls constantly would be too predictable. Having them both come to respect one another and at the 11th hour just wishbone some poor necron lord or heretic leader would be great.

i hope SM3 is more about blasting massive waves of enemies than fighting a few guys

going from darktide to SM2 feels weird, the roles feel reversed.

>>725390306
Titus needs a foil now that he's basically a super important main character. Leandros works perfectly for that, but you also don't need your foil to be an active antagonist. A good foil can easily be someone who helps keep your lead grounded. The worst thing they can do is try and regress both Leandros as a character by making him fall to corruption and then having everyone in the Ultramasmurfs dick ride Titus.

Given the direction they're taking with 500 worlds is Titus not entirely believing that Rowboat Guillotine understands what he asks of the Ultramarines and how he's a relic of an old era out of touch with the modern day. Leandros can serve as someone who's far more in Gasoline's corner that will butt heads with Titus over things, but serve to better each other as characters with the compromises both have to learn to make.

But it's modern tabletop 40k, he's gonna get kidnapped by Red Corsairs off screen and end up becoming a Word Bearer when he runs into Lorgar or some shit so Titus can pawn his chaos tainted ass.

>>725391658
I wish they included the new chaos spawn majoris enemy at launch, because I think that helps with the feeling a lot.

Chaos spawn are straight up bosses in Darktide, and facing 1 is a big deal let alone 2 or 3.

In SM2 you slaughter them like chumps.

Darktide also gets weird because the "canon" difficulty isn't auric, it's level 2 or 3. The canon stories that get written for Darktide are never 4 guys killing thousands of cultists but dozens.

>>725390104
>they would just reincarnate trough the protection of their gods which were still alive before Slaanesh was born.
so what exactly are gods in the 40k universe?

>>725391804
>Leandros getting to be on the Dark Council with Kor Phaeron and Erebus
Would be the fucking funniest thing despite how dumb that sounds.

>>725392029
>what are 40k gods
constructs of emotional energy empowered by the resonance of gorillions of beings feeding their strength in the warp with their emotions

>>725391961
>Darktide also gets weird because the "canon" difficulty isn't auric, it's level 2 or 3. The canon stories that get written for Darktide are never 4 guys killing thousands of cultists but dozens.
makes sense though tbf, though i thought the game used sefoni powering up the players as reason for their powers.

>>725381771
He is 200+ years older than he was in SM1. Each stud represents a century of service. Titus is over 400 years old in SM2, it would be bizarre if he looked like a normal person.

>>725392263
>though i thought the game used sefoni powering up the players as reason for their powers.
It's a mix of dumb luck, assuming that the player characters are using end game Inquisitorial-tier gear and that some of them are literally being helped by the Emperor (Psyker, zealot)

Even then, you're still just one strike team out of dozens which get wiped out every day.

>>725392029
Bottom text is the "scientific" answer

>Asuryan's twin brother is the god of war, Kaela Mensha Khaine. The goddess Gea is said to have held both Asuryan and Khaine as her double consorts.
eldar polycule

>>725392219
i meant the non-chaos ones

Is Warhammer the only franchise where the video games are better than the original medium?

>>725392339
How many years each stud represents changes depending on chapter and time period, but for Titus it's 50 years each.

It's stated in SM2 that he was missing for a century and has 200 years of service (per Gadriel in a cutscene)

>>725392525
>chaddius bile when the text is him coping

>>725392339
I love how people come up with their own little headcanon to try and internalize some underpaid Russian/Pajeet not being able to copy an existing face properly in Maya or 3DSMax. It's cute.

>>725383618
stfu rugga

>>725392529
>i meant the non-chaos ones
The non-Chaos gods are the same. They are emotional constructs empowered by the emotions of sentient beings in the material realm, both through their normal emotional responses to things and through dedicated worship.

>>725391961
Darktidie does it because it's got no canon cast outside of the people on the coms and background lore.
It's the downside of having a create your own OC video game, it becomes hard to actually gauge how good your guys is because the writers can easily turn around and just go.
>No, (you) didn't actually do this. This new named character, or character with an actual name and backstory did it.
It's the MMO problem where player feats need to be given to named characters instead.

Compare the Rejects to their main counterpart, the Ubersreik five. The only argument becomes who stays behind on what mission and what missions does all 5 of them go out on, while the feats still all get attributed to the U5

>>725392029
Warp entities. The Eldar gods are speculated (and I think almost outright confirmed in some novels) to having originally been designed as literally living weapons within the warp by the Old ones and the Eldar, who they could use to empower themselves and even perhaps wield in combat. As in, the Eldar during the war in heaven, could have theoretically been literally summoning some sort of "deamons" of khaine and what not to fight against the Necrons. Over time the Eldar began to worhip these gods as actual deities rather than the warp entities they are.

>>725392590
Dungeons and Dragons

>>725383025
>Chaos is behind it once again.
Is Chaos just saturday morning cartoon villains now

>>725393084
Always has been. See Bel'akor.

>>725392903
It's really up in the air, like in Fantasy, it might be that the elf gods are their ancestors,s like the Dwarfs Ancestor Gods, and they just wear a different face when humans worship them, but some human Gods are completely different from the elf ones or they could all just be Old ones

>>725392638
He's right. The 'gods' don't have any free will. They aren't even sapient in any meaningful way. They are emotions manifest in a parallel dimension. 'Khorne' is no more in control of its own actions than a stone rolling down a hill, it's just a more complex version of that.

>>725392913
I would say even for Vermintide that the "canon" is probably the mid-tier difficulty and not the absolute insanity that is end game.
For how cool they are, they're just mortals.

>The Asuryani [Eldar] long believed that when the Infinity Circuits finally hold all the remaining souls of their species, all of the craftworlds will unite into one Infinity Circuit.
>At that time the collective souls of the Asuryani will join to form a new entity in the Warp that will battle and subdue Slaanesh, so that all Aeldari spirits may once more be able to merge with it and form a single, balanced entity.
am i the only one who thinks this sounds like an easy way to deliver a sandwich to slaanesh? didn't she who thirsts eat all of the eldar gods all at the same time at the peak of their strength?

>>725393084
it's just the one competent actor on the scene. so if something is happening, it's probably their doing

>>725393163
You also gotta take into account the end times actively ramps stuff up and the DLC classes are canon according to the lore blogs.
5 of them still walked into the Chaos Wastes and came out alive even with Bel'akor actively trying to fuck with them.

>>725392529
Who the fuck is Gea, this is the first time I've ever heard of such a god? Where the hell did you get that lore blurb because it certainly has never come up in any Eldar Codex I've owned in the past 2 decades. Don't tell me you had Chatgpt blurt that shit out for you.

>>725389417
its been a while since I've read the books but isn't that motherfucker the one directly responsible for sparking hostility with the interex?

>>725393370
Yes, he stole chaos artifacts from them which made them extremely wary of Horus because they now believed he and the Imperium were chaos worshippers.

>>725393158
he's right and yet he's also not handling the situation as "calmly" as that image is trying to imply. the taste of blood is a reminder that the part where he has experiences organ failure just from looking at the "phenomenon" is cut out of the 'exchange'

>>725380596
At least this should mean Chaos can't hijack the enemy spotlight for a third time in a row, right?

...right?

>>725386329
Tyranids are the coolest faction but they were fucking boring to fight in SM2. Orks were better because they were lower density swarms where headshots still felt great. The perfect number of targets for a shooting game. Tyranids were swarms of bullshit with a handful of targets that became priority, which was irritating to fight rather than fun.

>>725393370
He's responsible for a lot of shit. He probably lost count centuries ago.

>>725389417
>have open, trusting society
>Chaos easily slips in and causes you to get fucked
The Interex can't be championed as a society that should be emulated. They were easily manipulated and destroyed immediately once they came into contact with Erebus. It's retarded how many people say "but look how good the Interex did! If the Imperium didn't annihilate them easily, they would have been a perfect example of how to set up a functioning hippie space commune" like the way they set up society didn't directly fuck them and demonstrate exactly why you need to be a paranoid asshole society in 40k

We love chaos here

>>725393732
The nids in space marines are also giganerfed. There should have been far more termagants just constantly shooting at you. The game makes the nids far too melee focused for gameplay reasons.

>>725385540
>>725385115
Tard wranglers like you are the reason of why Wizards is a joke and CGL is firing their trannies next year

>>725391961
Darktide's feats are usually gameplay contrivance, but canonically there are some few strike teams that really are that good. Not the "we kill 10,000 heretics and 15 beasts of Nurgle each mission" type of good but definitely able to kill a chaos spawn or two and come out on top despite being vastly outnumbered. There's apparently hundreds of thousands who were pressed into the inquisitor's service, among them you're bound to get at least a dozen operatives that are capable of some bullshit op feats.

>>725385824
I wish /aco/ had saved that ingrid card for koikatsu and vam

>>725393356
just from the wiki.
i don't want to be too judgemental, but you probably should stop using chatgpt for stuff like this: it's best to read directly from the books.

TRULY

>>725387373
Nigga Underworlds just got its 2nd edition and they haven't even finished porting all the 1e factions with those 4 packs they've been releasing every few months

>>725393817
Current problem with Chaos is that there seems to be a lack of focus on other Gods. Nurgle and Undivided take all the recent spotlight(and the most of Jobbing) with Khorne getting a breif one with Angron in 40k and Slaanesh with twins and new minis in AOS. But besides that. It's all Nurgle.

>>725384952
see >>725385115 and >>725385457

JUST. PISS. OFF.

>>725394448
Wrong version M8

>>725394627
that version is out of date. the one he posted is the current version.

>>725394448
40k is one of few franchises where niggers aren't completely offputting desu

>>725394439
No clue why people think Underworlds is doing a bad. It's essentially GW pumping out a bunch of unique models in a set of 3-5 for what ever faction you like to play or collect.
Warcry suffered cause most of it was focused on Chaos and chaos that clashed heavily with the main themes.

>>725380632
>*snipes u from across the map*
heh, nothing personnel, tittus

>>725387345
imperioum bad mmkay.
you are a tourist that should have been gatekept.

>>725394769
I guess people wanted Warcry to be AoS's Mordheim which is impossible. But Still it getting a bit shelved was an double plus ungood thing.

>>725377834 (OP)
Why haven't they made adaptions on chapters that went rogue who knew the imperium was a sinking ship and went on their own way? That sounds more inetresting.

i want a jaq draco game
i want a lexandro game

titus is too plain, i want my space marines mentally ill

>>725395196
What would be the plot? A shipful of gay burly men going around doing space piracy?

>>725394292
I am not using chatgpt or fucking wikis for my knowledge of Eldar lore. I use the fucking codexes and I have never heard of "Gea". Cite an actual source for that god because as far as I know, it has NEVER been mentioned in any actual Eldar codex.

>>725394439
tzeentch was the big bad of space marine 2 though

>>725395318
i'm sorry that you don't know. you don't need to lash out like that, it's not your fault. there are a lot of books to read and nobody's read them all, don't be so emotional about this.

take it easy, we're just having a lighthearted chat

>>725394954
I've been into 40k since 2006 you nigger. I'm just not a retarded imperiumtard that sees them trough rose tinted glasses.

>>725380468
a black guy and an asian so wheres the spanish or the middle eastern? seem like biases racism

>>725395394
M8, you posted some nonsense from a wiki without even checking if it was actually accurate.

>>725395519
asian = for money
nigger = diversity mandates

>>725377834 (OP)
>Fighting for a golden age that can never dawn again
I think you mean fighting for a golden age that never happened.

>>725381148
>This is because when shown next to Eldar and the Tau, the Space Marines look like the genocidal monsters they actually are.
>Eldar
I'm sorry anon, when you fuck up so hard and so long that you spawn a new chaos god for the entire galaxy to suffer under, you don't get an opinion and automatically go straight to the top of the "giga-retards that are always deserving of genocide" list.
And the tau are just lame and gay, and very quickly becoming just as bad as the Imperium if not worse as they begin to realize they're in 40k and not Star Trek.

>>725380596
the fact that he's supposed to make sure Ultramar is protected, and the last plot point we had for Tau is that they were going to start incursions into Ultramar in some fashion, my hope is that the Tau are the first enemy in the next game, hopefully transitioning over to Necrons, because GW only has the one plot line.

>>725385457
Nigger

>>725380468
Imperium Secundus....

too popular now its just slop

>>725385457
>le

>>725395852
>I'm sorry anon, when you fuck up so hard and so long that you spawn a new chaos god for the entire galaxy to suffer under, you don't get an opinion and automatically go straight to the top of the "giga-retards that are always deserving of genocide" list.
Fun fact, the craftworld, and exodite Eldar are the ones that, long before Slanessh was made, left the empire because they said all the shit they were doing was bad.

What do we think of the new animation that's SoB vs Eldar?

>>725395737
Nah it happened, you're just coping because you never had the chance to live in it.

>>725395908
desu it really feels like Star Wars with blood now instead of the grimderp thing it started out as
all the woke shit doesn't help either

>>725395549
do you want me to check for you, just because you didn't read it?
on the page for gea, they cite: Warhammer 40,000: Compilation (1st Edition), pg. 35 . Go ahead and pull that off your shelf, skip to that page, and check what's on there.

Make sure to be properly grateful that I have done this completely elementary task you should have done on your own. When all you did is bitch and complain.

>>725395908
When Henry Cavill’s movie drops, it’s going to become the new capeshit. After that, we’ll start seeing more movies based on nerd franchises like StarCraft, Warhammer Fantasy, and Mass Effect and every one of them will get milked and turned woke.

>>725380468
Shouldn't retaking all of ultramar be a whole Ultramarines chapter kind of thing? Or at least having the 1st company involved? Isn't retaking the 500 worlds something the lord Macragge should be involved with?

noblebright garbage

>>725396179
He can spare 2 good men.

Sickdarkbros just can't stop winning it seems

>>725396174
That shit is never coming out and if it does it'll be completely compromised. If Amazon decides there's real value in Warhammer, they could buy a majority stake in GW for less money than 3 episodes of Rings of Power.

>>725396036
The Imperium at its height still had all the problems the current one has. All of the "grimdark" shit that befalls a citizen of the imperium now happened then, just without the ecclesiarchy. People still lived in squalor in the hive cities, dying in the factories, starving on agri-worlds. The only time humanity was great was during the DAoT.

>>725396237
shit you right bro, he needs the rest of his boys to go into imperiums dogshit and ???
There's no way he hasn't gotten word of his brother putting angron in time out.

>>725396179
>Or at least having the 1st company involved
They're there. Titus has over 20% of the first company under his command.

>>725382050
There is no protocol or rule claiming that if you want to accuse a high rank brother of heresy/chaos you're forbidden against telling anyone except the company chaplain. That's fanon memelore people kept spreading around because they were desperate for an in-universe justification for their hatred of a fictional character.

In fact such a rule would be asinine because it would make the propagation of chaos corruption that much easier. Imagine if you were a high tier space marine who's been gradually converting some of the company to Chaos over the years, and some rookie tactical marine finds out but he's not allowed to tell anyone except someone else who might already be on your side. Sounds like heaven for future chaos space marines lol.

Leandros is a pussy but much of the Chaos defection within space marine ranks in 40k happened because their members did not pay enough attention and were not vigilant/extreme enough about rooting it out at the first suspicion. Snitching a possibly corrupted high rank space marine to the Inquisition would've prevented the spread of chaos in like 80% in Chaos Space Marine origin stories lol. It's the Imperium my nigger, innocence proves nothing and eternal suspicion is as natural to them as breathing.

>>725394448
you are the kind of human that is worse than the literalls immigrant rapists destroying the west right now.

literal chaos cultist traitor, no wonder so many video essays of "in defense of chaos" has been made more and more over the years.

no you fuck off.

My uncle is working on the set, it’s definitely coming out. It’s not a movie t’s a series . It’s garbage: think Suicide Squad meets Señoritas meets Superman, but with LOTR-level ''show'' production.

>>725382050
>>725380746
If you're a Chaplain, you're just not supposed to be a basic bitch about it. Chaplains kill people accused of Heresy. Between killing people accused of Heresy, they also watch the Chapter, carefully, and motivate their own brothers to higher and higher grounds.

No Chaplain I've ever, ever read was a basic bitch shitting on a random SM. If the Chaplain has serious doubt about the loyalty of a random SM, that same chaplain would have killed him already. Or be really angry because he couldn't kill that random SM and LOUDLY, really LOUDLY, making it known.

Leandros is being a basic bitch about Titus, to this day. He's like being a karen all over Titus and saying "better not ever touch chaos :) or else faggot!!!", which is unprofessional, unchaplain as fuck. Leandros is fucking taunting Titus!

>>725396165
I see. Old lore from before my time. Apologies for the hostility, this was genuinely the first time I ever heard of that deity being mentioned and the wiki pages I found with the quote you first posted of it didn't city anything about that god so it seemed iffy to me. It wouldn't be the first time fanwikis ad some nonsense that has no basis in canon so I jumped the gun on that assumption.

>>725396825
i'm also quite skeptical about wikipedia, but i don't really think 40k wiki is like wikipedia.

well, at least not yet.

For me it's the Iron Snakes because I want my brothers to deeply mourn me when I die.

>>725396792
>think Suicide Squad meets Señoritas meets Superman, but with LOTR-level ''show'' production.
It can't be worse than the Ultramarine film

>>725396810
>Brother Titus, the Captain of the first company has personally vouched for you, and now the Primarch himself gives you the honorable task of reclaiming the 500 worlds. You have recently stood before a corrupting demon and slain it, unflinching in your resolve and dedication to the emperor. You continue to be an exemplar among the Ultramarines.
>BUT IF YOU SO MUCH AS THINK ABOUT BEING A TRAITOR I'M GONNA FUCK YOU UP SO BAD.
His whole argument is that Titus is so good at being a loyalist, that it's got to be a traitor cover. And what's the point of telling him that? If you suspect that he's a traitor, or might be going traitor, telling him would put you on the top of his kill list.
Also, can't librarians sense the chaos taint on a marine and purge it? It happened in the plague war book(s), just get one and test titus.

>>725393158
The chaos gods are very much Sapient, and have been shown to be able to plot and plan.

This is just him coping

>>725396009
I don't know how "long" before slaanesh was birthed counts to absolve them, they were up to that degeneracy for a very, very, long time. And if they knew, they are still culpable for not doing anything about it.
Don't know if it's been brought up in the lore, but the Eldar as a people should have known what was coming they fought in the war in heaven, they saw first hand what can happen with the warp.

Next Space marine game will be fighting Necrons, with the reveal that Eldar awakened them early in order to make the Imperium destroy them

>>725393158
>mindgames horus into being their little bitch in your path
>currently mindgaming abbadon into being their little bitch too (him thinking he's not makes it even better)
Underestimating the chaos gods is a one way trip to being their pawn

>>725395196
They did and it's one of the best 40k campaigns ever written.

>>725397761
I doubt space marine games can do the Eldar justice in terms of actual gameplay that reflects their lore. Lorewise the Eldar would be an absolute pain in the ass to fight, basically never engaging in melee outside of their elites like banshees (who absolutely mulch trough space marines in melee combat), constantly doing hit and run attacks and having guns that both fire at extremely rapid pace and also shred trough marine armor.

Theyd' be annoying kiting shits with no horde type of units for you to fight.

>>725395196
Isn't that the Badab war though to be fair the antagonists of that eventually do fall to chaos but that's mostly as a result of getting ass fucked by the imperium for trying to pull that shit.

>>725398460
having to fight Tyberos tends to make people desperate

Since I don't know if I should make a separate thread and this is the WH40K game discussion
>Finished DoW2 base campaign awhile ago
>Starting Chaos Rising
>What specs are viable/desirable for CR imported characters at lv20?
So far I have FC = full melee + full health, some Will, Tarkus = full health + full ranged + some will, Avitus = Full ranged, good amount of will, little bit of health, Cyrus = Full ranged, Will up to permacloak,little bit of health to full speed move, melee to 'smoke bomb", Thaddeus = Full melee full health, some will, Dreadnaught = Health to self-repair, ranged until its max ability, melee just to the slam attack, will to Venerable status .

CR gives you a chance to respec (though I'm told it goes away after...what the first couple missions? First mission?) and now there are extra abilities and the like so I'm not sure where to go. Some people were talking about going a fully ranged squad with even the FC and having him max out will to get some ability, but I'm not sure what way to go now. Any advice for a vanilla playthrough? Also I'm just before I get the Librarian rescued so I assume he'll be recruited given there's librarian gear and stuff randomly dropped, so what's the best way to spec him when he arrives along with the rest? Of course, there's also

>Should I go Ultimate Exterminatus mod and if I do, can I import my vanilla max level team into UE's Chaos Rising without fucking everything up?
UE looks like it has a lot of improvements and new stuff including armor and all kind of crazy stuff, you deploy with ALL your units every time etc and looks really comprehensive, so maybe I should just give it a shot for CR as its been rebalanced with new abilities and all that anyway?

>>725398449
On the flip side they'd work fantastically well for a Space Marine-like game but with a much greater emphasis on acrobatics and parrying incoming attacks. Of course it'll never happen because there's not much of a market for a game like that but it's fun to daydream about.

>>725397682
The Craftworld exodus was a very long, drawn out thing. It wasn't like one day the Craftworlders decided to just leave. Originally the Craftworlds were trader ships, with people who spent most of their time away from the empire, and were some of the first Eldar to realize that the Empire was going down a bad path. As time went on they took more and more people off of the Eldar worlds, more people seeing that this was not the society for them, and they started coming back to the Empire less and less.
At the very latest, the Craftworlds started getting an influx of people before and around the start of the eldar pleasure cults, in the 24th millennium. We know that some craftworlds, and at the very least Beil-Tan set off at essentially the last moment before The Fall.
There are craftworld Eldar who have never known their empire, and whose parents didn't take part in what would cause it to fall.

>>725398861
Depends entirely on what difficulty you're playing on, IIRC I played through it on normal back in the day and I got through the game just fine by doing whatever.

>>725398912
Yeah. I'd buy an Eldar focused action game in a heart beat.
I dunno about the lack of audicence part, with a good core concept and engaging gameplay, you could make a really compelling game about the Eldar. They have such a distinct and cool aesthetic already so all you'd need to do is to depict it and let the player engage with the power fantasy of being a superhuman space elf that can move ridicilously fast and do all kinds of cool shit in combat.

>>725399060
>There are craftworld Eldar who have never known their empire, and whose parents didn't take part in what would cause it to fall.
I think by the time of 40k that's the vast majority of Eldar, they can live for thousands of years but 10,000+ is an extraordinarily long time even for them.

>>725399303
Having a cool protagonist anchors the player, it's very important. That's why Titus is getting a miniature and all this marketing push around him, or why Malum Caedo resonated with people despite only saying like a dozen words during a meme game. But all the Elder look incredibly fucking gay. No one liked them in DOW 1-2 either. Necros, Chaos, Nids, Orkz? Fuck yeah. Eldar and Tau? Lame as fuck gay shit.

>>725399506
Your right, that's true. I keep forgetting that people like Eldrad are much more the anomaly than the norm. But even amongst the Eldar's very old dead. You'll have plenty of people whose entire families had always lived on the craftworld. The only people that have more of a claim to having nothing to do with the Fall are the Exodites.

>>725399114
I'm playing on the standard difficulty (not Primarch. Its the default one which is either Sergeant or Captain can't recall). It just seems like there isn't as much data for ChaosRising builds out there as there was for base campaign.

>>725399651
Just let the players play as Prince Yriel or Maugan Ra.

>>725399651
>But all the Elder look incredibly fucking gay. No one liked them in DOW 1-2 either.

That is literally just your opinion, retard. GW literally fucking sold out the new and even some of the bit older aspect warrior refreshes this summer.
The Eldar are, and have always been popular among xenos players.

>>725399303
Here's a fun little extremely autistic fact for you: those Wave Serpents in the background are a rare Forge World conversion kit that went OOP long before that piece of art was made.

>>725377834 (OP)
>>725377834 (OP)
>>725377834 (OP)
Is there a chart with the recommended Warhammer video games?

I don’t care if it’s on the NES as long as it’s good

>>725399771
The people who want to blame all eldar for the fall are just imperiumfags that want to justify Imperium's genocidal hatred of the Eldar as a whole by asigning the blame for the fall on all the Eldar, because without that out of universe justification, it is blatantly obvious that the Imperium has zero actual justifications for how they view and treat the Craftworld Eldar. The CWE even tried to fucking warn the Emperor about Horus and the Emperor didn't listen because he was and is an arrogant cunt whose genocidal attitudes towards all aliens were there from the very get go.

>>725394715
The vast majorty of humanity live in hiveworlds with no access to the sun, unironically they should all look british, any tanned human would be a rarity.

>>725400312
It is a kino kit. Most of the Forge World Eldar stuff is fantastic. I am glad I was able to get Shadow Spectres from them before they went out of production.

>>725400215
Helps that Eldar refreshes always stay true to the original designs but with better proportions and sharper details while every other army tends to see fairly major aesthetic changes when they get an update. Jes Goodwin is still at the Design Studio and must be right at the very top of the pile these days, I'm convinced he's been throwing his weight around to stop anyone from changing his precious babies.

>>725380596
>another shooty faction
Fuck this, give me orks or nurgle

>>725400460
False. I am not looking for false justification, I am a human supremacist and want all the xenos genocided from the galaxy.
>For what reason?
No reason other than them existing. Simple as.

>>725400589
Jes Goodwin and his work is the only thing why I still care about 40k. The Eldar and the Tyranids are both things of pure kino in terms of aesthetics and I absolutely adore their designs.

Only utterly fucking tasteless niggers think that the Eldar "look gay". The entire design language of the Eldar, ranging from Craftworlders to Harlequins all the way to the Dark Eldar, is extremely well thought out, consistent and unique in a really beautiful way. I fucking love the way the Eldar look.

>>725386630
They only wipe if you wipe. Dont be a shitter and everyone lives

>>725400565
I didn't get into Eldar until after virtually everything went out of production (though a couple years ago I visited Warhammer World and picked up what must have been one of the last Scorpion IIs as an impulse buy), but I've found a couple of good-quality recasters that between them have almost the entire old Forge World range. Currently waiting on an order of Shadow Spectres now, in fact.

>>725400861
Then you are at least more honest than most of the imperiumfags that try to justify how the imperium is totally morally right in hating all xenos.

I personally, am Biel-Tan pilled and share their philosophy because I identify far more with the Eldar of 40k than humanity because humanity in 40k to me, is basically pajeet tier, and I, as a pure blooded Finn, find space elves to be far more to my liking than the disgusting mongrels and mutants humanity in 40k is.
Evem irl, most of humanity is fucking revolting to me. Human supremacists are funny when in their ideology, some streetshitting jeet holds some inherent value just because it is a human lmao. I'd kill a billion jeets just to save the life of a single Finn.

>>725383592
my headcanon > your headcanon

>>725400429
Rouge Trader if you like CRPGs

>>725400429
rogue trader pretty good
darktide very good (only co-op pve game i've ever really liked desu)
space marine 2 is decent, enjoyable enough
the original dawn of war RTS games are supposedly very good but i'm waiting for the definitive version to be fixed before i play that

thats for 40k though, fantasy has vermintide and total war warhammer

>>725401284
>says all that shit
>uses anime avatar

>>725400880
that shit is pretty gay tho
no one wants to play as a chinese ladyboy

>>725391487
I think you grossly overestimate how much the space wolves care about bailing out another legion, especially when they have their own problems

>>725380846
Titus turning to chaos would be kino, sick of blueberry noncery

>>725383415
You can play private mode with bots. The bots are resilient and good at picking you up if you go down, but they don't do much killing. Playing with bots is significantly harder than with other people, at least on the harder difficulty settings (though probably also on the lower ones if you're a beginner). If you're good enough you can beat the hardest difficulty with bots too.

>>725384952
>>725385307
>>725386460
>>725396687
>>725394715
Jonah Orion was the Blood Raven's Chief Librarian. This was before the GamerGay stuff and before BlackRock became the world's biggest asset manager. This was before your time though so none of you remember

>>725402024
>darktide very good (only co-op pve game i've ever really liked desu)
Stopped reading there.

>>725403249
>One of a handful of blacks that existed in the 40k universe for the better part of three decades
He was a token, retard.

>>725403249
i said niggers can be tolerable in 40k though

>>725403374
You’re a fat manlet failed male. Im smart and you’re retarded

>>725402451
anime website, retarded pig.

>>725380846
Titus turning to chaos would make all the new fans seethe so that will never happen.

>>725403584
I hit a nerve.

>>725377834 (OP)
Is t this suppose to be about holy Roman empire? Why are there niggers chonks and female soldiers? Why are they English and not Roman?

>>725400565
I wish i had the money to buy shadow spectres when they were still available and bieng made, sadly they are gone now but atleast i hope they get a new kit along with the Hornet at some point.
The War Walker can fuck right off though that's the ugliest eldar modle

>>725399651
>No one liked them in DOW 1-2 either
DoW1 was the reason why i got into 40k and eldar were my army of choice because of the games

>>725389404
The important thing to note with warcry is that EVERY model has rules, so its not like killteam where you are cucked into preselected teams with little to not list building.
Chosen? chaos knights? beasts of nurgle? FUCKING ALLIES? All of that is in warcry, you can even take some monsters which turns it into a different scenario.
Now with that being said, the balance is all over the place but It doesnt exactly frustrate me as new kill team does.

>>725403258
don't see why anyone would dislike darktide honestly, other than maybe the levels being kind of samey

>white scars have to be gross slanteyed shitskins, it is their culture after all
>erm..... ultramar for all!!!
there is zero excuse for this shit

>>725400880
The thong armour is a bit much

>>725404025
You're not even a secondary; you're a tertiary.

>>725404372
you are a souless kike
one with no argument, and no excuses.

>>725404372
You're on the board for secondaries, retard.

>>725404460
Make that tertiaries.
>Tabletop
>Books
>Video games

>>725377834 (OP)
>cutting out the important bit
>"Only in death does duty ends"
LeandroSISSIES...

>>725395441
All eldar are weak

>>725397184
Underrated chapter

>>725403997
Nta, but i think i just dont like that style of first person game where they throw an unending torrent of hapless mooks at you and then want you to do threat management while wading through a sea of popcorn enemies. I've got around 60 hours in it and I've really been trying to get into the game as of late but I keep bouncing off.

>>725392590
40k books are better than videogames

>>725380632
Nobody gives a fuck about your redditor Tau, retard.

> necrons and deathguard

TOTAL CHUD VICTORY, TAU TRANNIES SEETHE AND PISS YOURSELF.

>>725381771
>>725380928
>>725377834 (OP)
Why does he keep getting wider

>>725377834 (OP)
>‘Why do I still live,’ he snarled. ‘What more do you want from me? I gave everything I had to you, to them. Look what they’ve made of our dream. This bloated, rotting carcass of an empire is driven not by reason and hope but by fear, hate and ignorance. Better that we had all burned in the fires of Horus’ ambition than live to see this.’
>Even as he said it, Guilliman heard the lie in his words. Amongst his brothers, none had been more idealistic than Roboute Guilliman. None had envisioned a brighter future, not just for Mankind but also for the warriors of the Legiones Astartes. That flame of hope had been a part of him for as long as he had lived. Even now, as it was smothered by darkness and woe, Guilliman realised that his flame endured.
Roboute knows everything is fucked beyond repair. But it's better to fight than lay down and die.

>>725406070
>sharty

>>725377834 (OP)
Coincidence? I think not.

I like the chanting from this one in the trailer

https://youtu.be/oJ-NqqCdNbo?t=1m4s

>>725389278
That was the plan for the original trilogy under relic, iirc leandros would fall to chaos (nurgle), Titus would go renegade in sm2 and in sm3 he would be proven right and given the right to found his own chapter.

>>725385457
So a universe where you can be racist towards elves orcs xenos and whatever the fuck but the worst thing you could EVER do is be speciest towards the homo erectus? They also have genetic engineering and can choose to just have Roman people but choose to engineer chinks and niggers? What's the purpose of that? Pls explain why niggers and chinks are in the Roman empire

>>725402462
speak for yourself

>>725406054
The vast majority of 40k books are pulpy trash on a similar quality level of above-average fanfics. A lot of the black library authors suck.

>>725399651
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw7X7itUCVo
I can guarantee that an action game centered around playing a warlock a.k.a. a fucking jedi with a lot of warp based powers and skilled at melee combat would easily be a massive success even among normies.

Imagine if Leandros finally finds Titus being a traitor but it turns out Titus was playing an extremely long con because Titus was an Alpha Legion marine Only for Leandros to say ''No, Titus, i am Alpharius" and reveals he was Omegon all along

why can't anyone make a realistic lore accurate 40k Game

Why do people want Leandros to be best buds with Titus, when the whole setting, and the Imperium is meant to be the WORST regime in history? The same setting where the proverd ''Innocence proves NOTHING'' is in the rulebooks.

>>725406895
>innocence proves nothing
>implying there is such a thing as innocence in this setting
Everyone deserves to die for one reason or another in this setting.

>>725406895
>and the Imperium is meant to be the WORST regime in history? The same setting where the proverd ''Innocence proves NOTHING'' is in the rulebooks.
i can't imagine being into 40k for decades and having to read the most dull shit about how the imperium are bad, constantly.

>>725406895
Typically inside of the chapters themselves they get along.

>>725406895
I respect the devs for taking a much more interesting path with Leandros. Going down the "actually Leandros was le evil all along / and then a baneblade ran him over lol" road would've been such a cheap shitty way to resolve the dynamic. Actually stepping it up and maturing both characters but still keeping the old grudge looming over them makes it a lot more interesting.

I still think that Space Marine 2 needed some more variety in the PvE mode, i want to use a Centurion suit. Slow as fuck but strapped with so much dakka.

>>725407826
desu I think leandros is a good chaplain and they did him well in the game, however it's missing a piece, he clearly has a grudge against Titus for no apparent reason and we don't know why for sure, I would to see/hear/read some sort of background of leandros after the titus incident and up to becoming a chaplain.

Im more interested in Necromunda nowdays.

>>725408286
>he clearly has a grudge against Titus for no apparent reason and we don't know why for sure
Their personalities just rubbed each other the wrong way from the start and there doesn't need to be a reason beyond it, people are sometimes like that. The way Sidonis died in SM1 made Titus look VERY suspicious (unless you have the vantage point that sees the entire story) and I think that was the point of no return where Leandros committed to the grudge.

>>725408568
Yeah it's a fun game with cool models

>>725380846
K I N O

>>725408775
Now give Titus the Alpha Legion fit

>>725395519
>middle eastern
in the word bearer's

>>725408775
Chaos would suit Titus well, visually.

SM3 will be
0-3: Necrons & Tau
4-6: Necrons & Eldar
7-9: Necrons & Drukhari
Dupe: CHAOS AGAIN

>>725408286
>good chaplain
>doesn't say a word about the Vanguard falling to Khorne
>doesn't say a word about the heavy falling to nurgle
>the assault marine dipping their toes into the vanity of slaanesh

>>725397624
>>725397845
Just because they can do complex actions does not mean they are sapient.
LLMs are capable of doing a lot of things. They can write, draw pictures, animate, do math, etc etc. Obviously in this case, they can only do those things because humans are interacting with them and giving them directions, but for the 'gods', they're just being given 'directives' in the form of sensory input. It doesn't mean they have free will. Khorne can't decide he wants to spread disease. Nurgle cannot decide he wants his followers to fuck everything that moves.
It's not that they won't do these things, it's that they literally cannot. It's beyond just not being 'in their nature', they are things made out of emotions and they can only perform actions motivated by those specific emotions. They are pre-programmed with a very complex set of orders that they are completely incapable of deviating from. Even amoeba are more capable of exercising their free will.
It doesn't mean they aren't smart and dangerous, but they are not 'alive'. They don't 'think' any more than chatgpt does.

So what have been some big happenings since the past year or so? Wasn't there a Tau novel and Ork novel this year, among others?

>>725409247
CHAOS FAVORS ME

you gentlemen need a nice HUMAN woman in your lives

>>725409808
for me it's meh'lindi from the inquisition war trilogy

>>725377834 (OP)
SPACE BOOK SAY BAD

BUT FUCK IT, WE BALL

>>725380846
The stupid tactical rock that is omnipresent in every mini doesn't prove anything retards

>>725409247
Titus entire gimmick is the fact that he's literally immune to Chaos, it would be even more surprising if he doesn't end up fighting Chaos in the end and having Leandros seethe about it.

>>725411246
>Titus entire gimmick is the fact that he's literally immune to Chaos
that's what makes his fall so grimdark

>>725380846
But why would Titus turn to chaos? Nigga has no ambition

>>725411246
>>725411389
How is Titus so resistant towards Chaos anyway?
Is he really blessed by The God Emperor himself? I mean We assume the voice we hear at the end of Space Marine 2 was him

>>725406856
10 editions of lore revision, what fucking accuracy do you want? because the 10th's noblegrim future is the most popular iteration

>>725411923
Essentially. He's built different, unironically. Like, he's just been always that fearless and autistically determined

>>725411923
>>725412115
Some deeper reason will probably be explained in SM3

>>725411796
He's an autist who is unable to feel fear andhis routine is serving the Emprah, so he WILL not let xenos or haretics change his lifestyle.

>>725412115
>Entire universe biggest villain are Chaos blokes
Probably makes sense now why they would make Titus like the face and main character of the franchise.

>>725412167
There can be...
When Games Workshop want to start shilling some kind of new Chaos models or whatever.

>>725412167
In an action game?
Since a lot of the Strategy games have Chaos' main character, like Mark of Chaos but most don't have narrative campaigns or let the player fall to Chaos

>>725411923
Titus doesn't afraid of anything. Not even abstract things like failure or not being good enough. He's uncorruptible because he has no insecurities for Chaos to worm their way into.

>>725412167
Bro, your Total Warhammer 3?

>>725409535
[Speech: 100] Respond to me!

>>725412167
*laughs in Rogue Trader*

>>725412719
I read the Inquisition War by Ian Watson, I don't know if you'd call that a big happening though

>>725412115
>>725412628
Has there been any other dudes in the universe that is immune to chaos too without the need of magic fuckery or devices?

>>725413071
Every single member of the Custodes are incorruptible, sans that one time they went into space hell with the Emperor and got body jacked by Chaos, but that was a special case.

>>725409535
Well Fulgrim's back. I know no one who's bothered reading the Dawn of Fire novels which were the big 40K push last edition and this. Don't think the Lion and Gulliman have met yet. The Grey Knights secret order lore got explained?
Then uh, Space Marine 2's probably had the biggest long-term impact given Titus is kicking off the end of edition stuff for 500 worlds.

>>725413380
>. The Grey Knights secret order lore got explained?
The Terminus Decree? That shit is pure comedy
>Give orders to the chapter full of juiced up psykers the task that, in the event of the Big E somehow being healed back, to go through the entire fridge of cheese sticks, mustard tubs, custard bottles and bananahead Custodes, to put down the emperor himself back into his toilet seat
Hmm yes thank you Malcador for feeding me 1000 super juiced up psykers in the event i woke up.

>>725413375
That feels like the case of them being blessed by the Emperor himself, which is basically just magic fuckery.
Then again Titus could very well be the same case.

>>725412719
Siege of Vraks got a novel and it's actually pretty good.

>>725380468
oh that's interesting, but this has been bothering me since that titus animation with the tzeentech cult, metaurus was the ultremarine that recruited titus, and that was over 400 years ago because of titus' 4 service studs, but metarurus ALSO has 4 service studs????
how does that work??? are space marines put into cryo stasis or something?

>>725413380
Dawn of Fire novel line is fucking retarded. Plot is messy as fuck since it follows multiple characters per book and it happened before Dark Imperium story arc.

>>725412167
> You play as Alpharius
> You get assassinated
> By Alpharius
> To become Alpharius
> So you end the game playing as Alpharius

>>725414090
Alpha Legion amogus would be fun, but 5 years too late for that

>>725413071
>>725413375
Grey Knights are also completely immune/ incorruptible to Chaos. Their geneseed is derived from the Emperor himself.

>>725380468
Titus should have formed a successor chapter, not continue to a second banana to the will of the ultramarines

>>725413842
sometimes but he could have just been a young Marine when Titus was selected

>>725414217
and it's mega fucking gay. OC donut steel shit.

>>725411923
vidya protagonist power

>>725380468
What happened to his other battle nigger?
Finally got put down for being too aggresive?

>>725377834 (OP)

Ultramarines always win, all other chapters get fucked.

>>725414328
Titus didn't care for his robotic limb and decided he wasn't cool enough to hang out with them anymore.

>>725380632
ending campaign are more than two factions fighting

>>725380632
Tau were in the last editions ending campaign, besides they're still getting a bone thrown their way next year with some new models that might tie into the ending campaign.

Just give me a chance to play as Terminator in SM 3. That is all.

40k becoming more american and normiebait was the worst thing that happened to it

worse than disney star wars

>>725414217
>Their geneseed is derived from the Emperor himself.
Imagine...

>>725415108
Warhammer is for EVERYONE, chud.

>>725415108

My rage seethes through adamantine and ceramite!!

>>725415108
cry about it unc. ur gay ass white world is dead

>>725415046
Thought he was flying with jet engines in the thumbnail there.

>>725414217
>cucks to the inquisition
>has to use SoB blood to be more immune to daemons despite already being immune
>tasked with defeating custodes, SoS, and all the forces of terra if the emperor wakes up
>can't even defeat the wolves

>>725415713
What a shitty fucking chapter. A mistake in creation. It adds nothing to 40k.

>>725414258
It's also the reason why the Sisters are attracted to the GreyKnights, they can sense the Emperor inside of them.

>>725415108
Warhammer really went downhill when it stopped being about British writers seething about Margret Thatcher and 80's-90's British politics.

>>725415620
kys deracinated shitskin

>>725415824
As someone who had to grow up in schools hearing non-stop 'Maggie Thatcher milk snatcher'. I'm glad they've moved on from the Thatcher seethe, it's fucking retarded and only old socialist boomer fucks give a shit about her.

>>725415919
Do you even have a license to post here, bong?

>>725415991
why are you speaking english?

>>725415991
They're trying very hard to revoke it.

>>725377834 (OP)
It'd be a mindfuck if at the end of Space Marine 3 Titus is revealed to be a deepcover Alphaglowie and Leandros was right all along

>>725416116
I would be very pleased

>>725415772
each of the branches of the inquisition having specialists is a cool idea on paper but its not really something that GW has fleshed out super well
Deathwatch are more thought as Space Marines Expendables rather than even part of the Inquisition
Sisters are very well fleshed out that it makes you wonder why the rest of the inquisition feels so shallow
Grey Knights are desperate for fleshing out, but daemons themselves in 40k are shallow so of course you're gonna see them struggle to feel complete without just leaning on the "spesh marine psykers!"

>>725415824
Yeah, cause all the writers who still wanna write that kino moved onto 2000AD to write more Judge Dredd

>>725380468
Didn't he already have a model before this?

>>725416064
I think your politicians should get into some very unfortunate accidents.

>>725416198
Yeah, but it was essentially a limited run model that wasn't sold normally in most countries until the recent 40k Encyclopaedia came out. Make sure to pick one up before the FOMO kicks in

>>725415636
kek me too

>>725413375
God i fucking hate Custodes, they feel like a 12 year old looked at Matt Ward writing Grey Knights and thought i want that but even more special

>>725408568
WELCOME TO NECROMUNDA, GENTLEMEN.

>>725386170
>he died in his first appearance
During Shadowspear?
I forgot he was apart of that, even wilder that they considered the high causality mission a success despite onlynthe Librarian surviving with a few greater demons true names

>>725416349
the emperor's own personal guard should be pretty badass but should have been handpicked marines rather than super space marines who do jack shit

>>725416349
Weren't Custodes introduced waaaay back in Rogue Trader though? They probably predate most of the Grey Knights lore.

>>725416476
Custodes went a long time without being fleshed out in the lore. That's why in the Outcast Dead book, you see one get btfo by a single non-armored World Eater.
I don't have a problem with the Custodes being the stronkest soldiers the Imperium has to offer, though, being the Emperor's personal guard and all.

>>725415108
>thing gets popular
>thing gets worse
wow

>>725377834 (OP)
Stop making Necrons fucking space Tomb Kings, stop making them look like they're falling apart or badly reanimated. Fucking hate all these Destroyers and Flayed Shitters focus. Fuck the silent king, what a downgrade from when the C'tan were still in charge.

>>725416459
The predate the marines though. Hell they predate thunder warriors, don't they?

>>725416259
If I comment I'm in trouble so I'll just post Wh40k reaction images.

>>725416757
Lorewise, yes. Release date on their lore, no

>>725416741
Destroyers are literally Oldcrons

>>725416741
>Stop making Necrons fucking space Tomb Kings
Necrons were originally designed to just look like Tomb Kings, but metal. OldCron lore was, like the nids in rogue trader, "these guys just show up and kill us some times".

>>725393752
>Have dogmatic, authoritarian society
>Chaos easily slips in and causes you to get fucked
The Imperium got fucked by Chaos just as bad as the Interex. The only reason it’s still standing is because of the Emperor

>>725417867
>The only reason it’s still standing is because of the Emperor
The only reason it's standing is because GW doesn't care to write a story that makes sense.

>>725417867
An amoral feudalistic theocracy isn't the perfect system but it's the best system we've got.

i wonder what people who whine about the imperium even like about the setting, as its inherent appeal is that it is humanity taken to its absolute extremes.

>>725380468
Necrons? What happened to the Tyrannids?

>>725393289
>am i the only one who thinks this sounds like an easy way to deliver a sandwich to slaanesh? didn't she who thirsts eat all of the eldar gods all at the same time at the peak of their strength?
Yes, Slaanesh is basically the Eldar God of Death, including the Death of Eldar Gods. There's a reason the Yncarne is aesthetically very similar to Slaaneshi daemons. They have very overlapping spheres and special interactions because of it. Slaanesh effectively broke prophecy and usurped Ynnead's place (who was prophesized to be born even during the days of the Eldar empire) so now the Ynnari cultists decided that fuck it, we'll have to do it manually.
The next redpill is how the four "surviving" Eldar gods share spheres with the four Chaos gods.
Isha, Goddess of Life - Nurgle
Khaine, God of Murder - Khorne
Cegorach, the Trickster God - Tzeentch
Ynnead, God of Death - Slaanesh
People like to cope a lot about "no dude my favorite god is totally no an aspect of Chaos" but this has been always hinted in the background, especially in Warhammer Fantasy. That's not to say they ARE Chaos, but they are related and tied together.

>>725414217
>Gay Knights
>Chapter 666
God I hate them so much.

>>725417867
>Have dogmatic, authoritarian society
>Chaos easily slips in and causes you to get fucked
>Blow up the planet
1-0 for authoritarianism

>>725418253
>Gods I hate them so muc...'ACK'

>>725418204
they disappeared because GW didn't want to use them again. They're not the big enemy anyway, it's always chaos baby! You think it's a civil war? It's chaos! aliens? Nope Chaos! Chaos? No it's a different thing of Chaos! Boy, I sure do love Chaos. I hope Chaos wins!

>>725403249
This dude was a real nigga

>>725416741
the necron retcon is the best idea GW ever had and every single pov book they've had has been 10/10

>>725408568
Necromunda seems kinda wack in doing its own thing, but I can tell SDS is having fun with it at least.

>>725418245
How is Slaanesh related to Death though? Death isn't in his sphere

>>725408568
Necromunda is like a compartmentalized Cyberpunk setting

>>725418614
Not Death, but Eldar Death. All Eldar souls go to Slaanesh like they SHOULD go to Ynnead.

>>725413842
Titus was in stasis for many decades while in the Inquisition's custody, but you are right that it's off. What are the colors/materials of Metaurus' studs? Can't bother checking them at the moment. If they are truly the same amount of active service years then that has to be a screwup by GW.

>>725382978
chaplains always wear helmets. They're supposed to be the keepers of morale and purity (in that the marine keeps to his oaths and purposes, not like, militiary discipline, but as a leadership role he can command too) They're meant to remind marines, forcefully if need be, that they have duties, things they need to honor, and oaths that bind them to the chapter, to their bothers on and off the battlefield, and to the emperor. (this is big because the heresy ultra fucked the imperium so badly) They're stern teachers to guys that need that sort of shit, and they wear the helmet to seperate the marine inside the armor from the office they inhabit. Because marines defer to commanders and leadership, but they're all still notionally brothers, like a first among equals. The only other specialist position that has that kind of thing are the techmarines and the librarians. Libbies because they use the warp and mysteries of the chapter based on warp usage. The techmarines are seconded to mars and have to hide all the tech knowledge. '

thank you for coming to my ted talk

>>725412037
feed everything into chargpt and ask it to taking real world things into account to generate the most realistic parameters.
taking into account that most imperial books are propaganda.

>>725419076
a comment so retarded it could only be made by a nonwhite

>>725409808
for me its tau men.

>>725419136
Can you not post a picture for ants?

>>725419107
I am a pure breed white European.

>>725419208
damn clover fucking up again cause of Google's retardation with Google images.

>>725419298
Tau are based?!

>>725415919
Alan Moore shitting and crying and clutching his chest rn

>>725419347
yes

>>725418204
We fucking killed their Hive Tyrant on Avarax and killed their Bio-Titan on Kadaku.
The latter planet is completely fucked though, and it's still encroaching around Avarax.

>>725419298
>>725419347
This is what Imperium men deserve

>>725414328
Gadriel was a sergeant.
Chairon was just a battle brother.

>>725419394
its true.
maybe you should learn not to conflate every opinion you disagree with with some racial issue you have.
neural networks are a powerful modern tool, if you don't want to use it just read every single book and come with an internal consensus about what a realistic Warhammer system would be (I already did that but no one is going to make me a game director for that).

>>725419482
>More Tau femboy propaganda
Yes please

>>725419597
>maybe you should learn not to conflate every opinion you disagree with with some racial issue you have.
no it was more that shitskins tend to believe chatgpt is infallible

As a complete and utter secondary who at first just liked the look of these guys then after reading some plot summaries about conflicts they'd been in actually began to appreciate them, what are the chances of them appearing in any mainline 40K game? Are they too racist to?

>>725419037
yes metaurus does have 4 gold studs, but now I'm actually confused, because I thought each gold service stud represents 100 years, but for the ultramarines it's actually only 50?
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Service_Studs

>>725380468
and another thing, since primaris marines and roboute reorganizing chain of commands of the chapters to those just like the times of the horus heresy with the reintroduction of lieutenants into the companies, aren't there supposed to be TWO lieutenants? where was the other one during SM2? and is gadriel lieutenant now?

>>725419797
>Red Scorpions primaris
Fucking faggot shit.

>>725419797
They will never appear in a 40k game outside of customization options. Your only options are Ultramarines or Blood Angels or Dark Angels.

>>725419298
>>725419347
>>725419482
Is there more?

>>725419871
explain for a secondary

>>725418341
This is why i truly believe that 40k's actual main antagonist should be Orks, relegate all the chaos wanking bullshit to 30k/HH if everything's boiling down to just that shit, at least HH marines were on the prime time ass kicking that had standout gimmicks and none of the gay successor chapters. 40k should be Orks cauing shit because Orks are the best.

>>725411796
You have to ask how divine magic mind bending works? There is ALWAYS the chance that he is a sleeper agent. Saber was told to fix the subtitles at the end of SM2 so that the person telling Titus to get up is not identified as Calgar but an unknown "voice". People are quick to assume it is the Emperor due to good-guys-win bias, but it is entirely possible it was a daemon instead.

It WOULD be kino of the kinoest order if Leandros is proven right in the very end as a reminder that this is a grim and dark universe, not a noble and bright one.

>>725406168
Maybe he has Hispanic genes. Tragic what happens to cute central american girls when they hit ~25, their face width goes through the Oblivion randomizer.

>>725419850
Depends on the chapter.
Ultra's have gold for 50 years, but i don't expect nu-GW to even know their own lore.

>>725419871
That's a Mk.IV you cocksucking faggot.

>>725419850
They done goofed.

>>725406168
he's a true, ultramarine geezer.
luv his chapter.
luv his Primarch.
luv the Em'prah.
Simple as.

>>725420485
Interesting how people are so convinced that it's the Emperor, but something is clearly planned at least.

>>725420485
>It WOULD be kino of the kinoest order if Leandros is proven right in the very end as a reminder that this is a grim and dark universe, not a noble and bright one.

This idea that every picosecond of 40k should be unmitigated misery would only make it tedious. The moments of heroism and triumph shine because of the misery, but if misery becomes the whole point then it's just fucking boring.

>>725420745
Mk IV vents are vertical, moron. Row that boat some more. It's a primaris.

>>725412037
Fuck the noblebright future.

>>725419797
Red Scorpions were basically the posterchild chapter of Forge World, GW's studio that makes expensive as fuck resin models that they tend to find ways to fuck up making. It's coming on unlikely because FW themselves now take a much more minor role in making models, they did do a Primaris superheavy but they're now mostly delegated to doing characters for more specialized games as a lot of their stuff is being phased out from 40k or replaced with a plastic one by Citadel for 30k. So yeah, you're probably not going to get anything for them beyond games that already infer customization.

>>725420984
Titus is already special enough. Having the emperor address him directly would be ridiculous.

>>725415783
>be kind to and flirt with your cute tall brother-husband
>get pulped into blood paint for your trouble
kinda mean tbdesu

>>725421031
That's Veteran Sergeant Zhyr, idiot. That photo is older than Primaris and probably older than you.

>>725419871
The Primaris helmets are flat and squished-in, MkIV is the proto-beakie with a forward, triangular protrusion. The current plastic MkIV Tactical Marine and Chaplain kits, of which are still classic marine-sized - have a mix of helmets with both vertical and horizontal slits on them. Some pictures of Nu-MkIV on the HH 3.0 books even have none at all! Other armor marks have plenty of similar variance on their helmets as well.

>>725421520
wow!

>>725420984
>The moments of heroism and triumph shine because of the misery
That moment has come and gone twice with SM1 and 2. More so in the former because the heroism in SM1 was dampened by the arrest of Titus, while the latter does not have the same balancing factor.

>>725420858
If I were to make a prediction on what the tweest will be;
>Titus has become a sleeper agent for Tzeentch, unwillingly or not
>His victories have been engineered to give him command of the 2nd again
>Questioning his loyalty is even less viable now because he "came back from the worst accusation" and has Calgar's and Guillomon's approval
>The current task is to take back all 500 worlds of Ultramar from various forces including NURGLE, so he will accomplish that before a forced betrayal
The last part is the reddest tautest string on my conspiracy map board.

Primarisbros and antiprimarisbros are just mad with each other's looks because they'll never be skeletal like a chaplain
Skull helmet > googoogaga angry helmet/flatbeakie

>>725421819
Sounds much too smart for GW

Everybody knows
>MK2=MK3=Beakie>MK7>MK5>MK1>MK4>MK8>Liquid Shit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Aegis Armor> Primaris MK10.

>>725422267
Hell yeah

>>725422267
>Nu-MkII actually looks pretty decent its own right
>Nu-MkIII helmet looks like unmitigated dogshit

At least the Breacher kit alleviates that, I suppose.

>>725414217
>>Grey Knights are also completely immune/ incorruptible to Chaos. Their geneseed is derived from the Emperor himself.
why didnt emps make the primarchs this way

>>725414217
>Grey Knights are also completely immune/ incorruptible to Chaos. Their geneseed is derived from the Emperor himself.
But the Emperor is a (future) chaos god himself. How does this work?

>>725422516
>But the Emperor is a (future) chaos god himself. How does this work?
He was a potential one, he chose to not cross the rubicon and gave up that power.

I would like to say the idea of the emperor being born in our actual prehistory rather than in the future is gay

>>725422516
>But the Emperor is a (future) chaos god himself
That is only if he goes through with the Dark King path.

>>725422665
But he IS susceptible then.

>>725422705
I think the idea of perpetuals is fucking gay.

>>725422665
He's going to, some time in the future.

>>725422746
I love the Thousand Sons

>>725422756
>Horus Heresy novels
>Perpetuals
>Primaris
I hate them all so much.

>>725422808
>Emperor fighting Horus using YGO cards is canon

>>725422808
>>Horus Heresy novels
What am I supposed to read then....?

>>725422887
Only the first three.
>Eisenhorn
>Gaunt's Ghosts
>Ciaphas Cain
And some others.

>>725422887
inquisition war