Thread 725384870

Can we admit the endings of E33 are retarded?

why are they retarded, you have 200 words to explain

no just you

>>725384870 (OP)
You'll trigger the lolcow be careful.

>>725384870 (OP)
E33's plot is wonky as fuck in general with plot holes and people doing shit that makes no sense constantly. Verso should have left the party and been replaced with gustave in act 3.

>>725385014
There's no way to win

>>725385334
He asked you to explain why it's retarded

>>725385334
Yes, every ending has a downside.

>>725384870 (OP)
One's retarded, and the other is Verso's

>>725384870 (OP)
>filtered

>>725385068
>Hey, here's your intentionally shitty character with a small skill tree, no perfection gimmick, and no weapon passives back. Oh, all the heavy Verso-related side stuff in Act 3? Eh, whatever."

>>725385014
Verso's ending is supposed to be the good one, but then developers said both were good and that makes it retarded because both ending are opposites.

>>725384870 (OP)
t. seething maelle smeller.

>>725386898
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH0WYxJDwms

>>725385068
Gustave was dead dead, not gommaged. Bringing him back as he was was never a possibility, as seen in the bad ending.

>>725384870 (OP)
>can we admit that my opinion is universal and you have all been hiding the truth for some reason

>>725389539
>then developers said both were good
Sauce? Or was it that both endings were equally canon because that's two different things

The endings were one of the best parts

>>725389763
https://www.gamesradar.com/games/rpg/clair-obscur-expedition-33-lead-writer-says-there-is-no-correct-ending-to-the-french-jrpg-both-are-heartbreaking-in-their-own-ways/

>>725389641
Someone didn't pay attention. Gustave was killed by PRenoir, not a Nevron, so he's just regular dead, like Sciel's husband.

She just wanted an escape

>>725385068
please don't ever try to write anything

Aline did literally everything wrong.

>>725384870 (OP)
Gustave sexo

Do you think future Clair Obscur games will expand on the world outside the canvas?

>>725390905
My guess its that is going to be a completely different story.

>>725385334
How is that retarded?

>>725390905
Either that or different story, like a spiritual successor

>>725391624
>play video game
>whole point is to win
>lose at the end
How is it not retarded?

>>725391928
>whole point is to win
please graduate from middle school

>>725391928
please try graduating from middle school before you make a thread

>>725390905
Don't care aslong as it stays turn-based with real time elements, please don't be a soulsloppa

>>725390905
I hope not, let it stay mysterious from the allusions the game makes

>>725391928
What are you talking about?
You have two endings, one for each MC.

>>725390605
maelle pls

>>725385334
There's just no way that we can win, that was a masterpiece!

>>725391928
You get to choose if Maelle or Verso wins

>>725392168
Oh yeah I hope a new game takes place is another creation but maybe with more hints as to what's going on outside.

I'm a Gustavechad
Gustave wouldn't like to live in a sandbox
Ultimately Gustave will desire for Verso to stop Painting
me, the player, wins.

>>725384870 (OP)
The premise that the whole thing is just a family conflict in someone's living room is kind of retarded in and of itself.

>>725392596
There's more to it than that though. The implication is there's a war going on outside which is what caused the fire that tore their family apart in the first place. And to the people in the canvas they're essentially gods.

>>725384870 (OP)
No,i like Maelle's ending

I hadn't even realised there was an E3 Two.

>>725385068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH0WYxJDwms

I think the plot would've been better without the 'real world' elements. I didn't care for the twist. The Paintress and Curator could've still been mysterious gods of the world without diving into their backstories.

>>725384870 (OP)
No, Verso's ending is absolutely genius and one of the best endings in the history of video games, and Maelle’s ending only serves to confirm even more the brilliance of Verso’s ending. Verso does what’s right and closes the book, turns off the television, accepts time and death with good grace. Unlike most modern media (and ideologies), where characters challenge the gods, create new worlds, pretend to be things they are not, and feed this human temptation to defy the natural order of things, as if we could create perfect worlds or prevent bad things from happening, the ending of Expedition 33 brings the opposite argument. Sweetness does not overflow, and bitterness does not endure forever; everything passes

>>725395225
>and bitterness does not endure forever
the message of these sorts of games seems to be that bitterness is the only thing that endures forever
kind of hard to see it any other way at the literal end of the world

>>725395457
I don't know how you came to that conclusion at the end, and I also didn't understand the 'these sorts of games'

>>725384870 (OP)
I like the initial twist, but think the final ultimatum feels forced for the sake of last minute divisive ending.

That said I think the party continuing to trust Verso at all after he already betrayed them multiple times just so he can continue to be the camp POV character was already super forced.