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Anonymous No.725385415 [Report] >>725385492 >>725386021 >>725387054 >>725387060 >>725387805 >>725388240 >>725388648 >>725388804 >>725390043 >>725390182 >>725391182 >>725392301 >>725392664 >>725396056 >>725396571 >>725397779 >>725397993 >>725398623 >>725400292 >>725400478 >>725402481 >>725402586 >>725403261 >>725403353 >>725408474 >>725408751 >>725411306 >>725411521 >>725414480 >>725416787 >>725417078 >>725419981 >>725420237 >>725421846 >>725423728 >>725424414 >>725426034 >>725429372 >>725429832 >>725430065 >>725430835 >>725431252 >>725431330 >>725431948
How do we feel about this? I'm a little worried.
Anonymous No.725385492 [Report] >>725385648
>>725385415 (OP)
Its going to be hilarious when they realise how bad the AI will be at this.
Anonymous No.725385648 [Report] >>725400292
>>725385492
What do you mean? It's not like it's making assets or writing code... yet.
Anonymous No.725385897 [Report] >>725387471
someone should buy square enix
Anonymous No.725386021 [Report] >>725386160 >>725386246 >>725386975 >>725387471 >>725424164 >>725428656 >>725430546
>>725385415 (OP)
Put it into this perspective:
Do you want them to have trannies and niggers do QA or a literal robot?
Anonymous No.725386160 [Report] >>725386548 >>725396725 >>725397648 >>725398712
>>725386021
I'd rather they just make good games. Like on the Snes/PS1/PS2. Is that really so much to ask?
Anonymous No.725386246 [Report]
>>725386021
The literal robot will be controlled by pajeets, we can't win here
Anonymous No.725386548 [Report]
>>725386160
yes
all talent has left that company
Anonymous No.725386690 [Report]
i thank god everyday for not being fan of any single franchise from Square, Ubisoft, and EA. I mean, they have some stuff that appeal to me and i can easily became fan of
Anonymous No.725386793 [Report]
translators will all be gone so that's based. just gotta hope it doesn't ruin part 3 of ff7r and then square can do whatever they want.
Anonymous No.725386975 [Report]
>>725386021
I vote for AI, 99% of artists and devs are woke anyway.
Anonymous No.725387054 [Report] >>725387229 >>725387268
>>725385415 (OP)
>"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY NEED TO DO THE OBNOXIOUS REPETITIVE CODEMONKEYING MANUALLY! AAAAAA IT'S NOT AUTHENTIC NOW I AM LITERALLY SHITTING AND PISSING MYSELF"
you know that we're not chopping woods to warm our houses anymore, right?
also you turntards don't like them anyway. why do you give a shit
Anonymous No.725387060 [Report] >>725387517
>>725385415 (OP)
>AI
>QA and debugging
that's fucking retarded. Anyone who's vibe coded at all knows that AI is great at sharting out code but it falls on you to check that everything works and explain what doesn't
Anonymous No.725387096 [Report] >>725394164
I am here to protect SE and turn any negative story about them into a good one
Anonymous No.725387229 [Report] >>725387337 >>725388019
>>725387054
>DO THE OBNOXIOUS REPETITIVE CODEMONKEYING
did you not read OP's ragebait at all? they aren't automating the coding, they're automating the QA. which is the exact opposite of what current coding agents are good at.
>obnoxious codemonkeying
codemonkeying was the single most enjoyable job you could have, shame that it's dead now. programming is legitimately fun, after you clear the initial
>hurr durr I can't write even a single working line of code myself
stage
Anonymous No.725387252 [Report]
QA is the modt tedious shit to ever do and they already have programs to analyze code for issues called static code analysis.
Its a good change despite what the twitter shitters tell you
Anonymous No.725387268 [Report] >>725388019
>>725387054
Very Indian post.
Anonymous No.725387337 [Report]
>>725387229
>personal conjecture
>no point
Alright code monkey
Anonymous No.725387342 [Report] >>725388495
https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/larian-publishing-director-balks-at-square-enixs-push-to-replace-qa-workers-with-ai-the-idea-that-qa-people-can-be-replaced-at-a-large-scale-is-stupid-they-are-a-massively-advantageous-vibe-check/
Anonymous No.725387459 [Report]
>AI = All Indians
Anonymous No.725387471 [Report]
>>725385897
>>725386021
Me, I should do it. My resume? Not needed.
Anonymous No.725387517 [Report] >>725388824
>>725387060
This
The AI will just lie to your face and say everything is good, because it doesn't understand what you are asking it, but knows you want a yes.
This always fucking happens.
Anonymous No.725387759 [Report] >>725388387
>retards screeching about ai art literally any time it is mentioned being used for something that makes sense, like debugging or QA
I would have to assume it's just self hating jeets at this point, like you clearly have no capacity to understand what AI is actually bad for but chimp out the second it's mentioned in any context
Anonymous No.725387805 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
>QA and debugging tasks
These are what AI are the worst at. I'm pretty sure this is a fake troll article because anyone who's done any work knows how useless they are. Might as well have been "Square Enix says it wants cats to do 70% of QA and debubging tasks by late 2027." with a picture of a cat sitting on a keyboard.
Anonymous No.725388019 [Report]
>>725387229
>codemonkeying was the single most enjoyable job you could have
which is complete bullshit. i am doing that for a living too and every lecture ever talks about how you're NOT supposed to reinvent the wheel every single time and use libraries and other pre-existing code structures since they have been optimized for the best runtime anyway. it would be completely stupid to start from scratch.
>>725387268
greetings from germany
Anonymous No.725388240 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
Can't be any worse than their current output.
Anonymous No.725388256 [Report] >>725388804
If they trust AI to solve issues inherent within the code, why not just have AI code the shit to begin with?
Anonymous No.725388387 [Report]
>>725387759
Nobody has mentioned AI art. You might be legitimately insane.
Anonymous No.725388495 [Report]
>>725387342
Why are websites still inserting entire article names into their hyperlinks?
Anonymous No.725388648 [Report] >>725389723
>>725385415 (OP)
Really depends on what 70% looks like. When I did QA decades ago it was just the leads printing out checklists for testers to go through every build. Then you'd get ad hoc days once a week where the testers were allowed to do whatever to find the real bugs like duplication glitches or map glitches. If they can train an AI to go through the game the same way TAS bot does then most of the wrote stuff is taken care of. Those lists sucked though and were just busy work for the most part.
Anonymous No.725388804 [Report] >>725391175
>>725385415 (OP)
Kawazu reportedly used SE's AI cluster to debug Emerald Beyond and run tests regarding battle balance, as in they ran a set of machines under specific conditions, looked at the results themselves and then rebalanced or redesigned some things by hand, this was back in 2002-2024.
Results were pretty good honestly, the game was light on bugs and the battle system was not only amazing but had only a single exploit that passed through the net and was fixed a week after it was found, though this is Kawazu we're talking about who's very hands on with his projects so the same thing might not apply to the rest of the company which has notoriously sloppy directors and designers.
>>725388256
Iirc their AI tool for coding is quite literally just clippy on steroids, it's an assistant that detects stuff and uses popups to warn about syntax errors or makes search for functions.
Unless they changed something in two years or so of course.
Anonymous No.725388824 [Report] >>725389247 >>725389551 >>725396235 >>725397542 >>725398220 >>725420680 >>725421435
>>725387517
>The AI will just lie to your face and say everything is good
Why the fuck can't any of them just say "I don't know?" to questions they don't have an answer to instead of making up bullshit? This single thing makes them all completely useless.
Anonymous No.725389247 [Report] >>725398220
>>725388824
Because AI companies are trying to maximize market cap, not produce a functional product. I've had to argue with damned help desk LLMs about what year one of our products was released when trying to get the link to the documentation of one of the processes. Some retard at C level decided to fire most of our internal tech and documentation staff in favor of some AI that gives us the wrong thing nearly every time. Half my job is now trying to get some AI that's "hallucinating" most of the time to give me what I wanted. Total disaster but hey, that's apparently progress and we need to accept a 'teething period' while the system is improved.
Anonymous No.725389551 [Report] >>725398220 >>725425543
>>725388824
It MUST give you an answer, because "I don't know" is not part of the training data.
Anonymous No.725389719 [Report] >>725389802
square sold deus ex ip to buy nft's back in like 2021(where they proceeded to lose money), they're completely retarded.
Anonymous No.725389723 [Report] >>725390034
>>725388648
From the same article that shared the news
>“Because I would love to be able to start up 10,000 instances of a game in the cloud, so there’s 10,000 copies of the game running, deploy an AI bot to spend all night testing that game, then in the morning we get a report. Because that would be transformational.”
this statement wasn't from someone in SE but I believe they share the same thought process.
Anonymous No.725389802 [Report]
>>725389719
No, they had to sell off the western branches in a hurry in order to not fucking die from Avengers flopping.
Anonymous No.725390034 [Report] >>725390798
>>725389723
I'd be curious to see how they would write a bug report though if they did find something. Like a crash is easy to send reports about but if the player gets stuck on map geometry I wonder if they would be able to realize something was wrong and reproduce it.
Anonymous No.725390043 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
It just like the NFT bullshit a few years back, they will step back eventually when they realize it was a retarded idea.
Anonymous No.725390182 [Report] >>725392110
>>725385415 (OP)
>let's use our alzheimers robot to hallucinate fixes that don't work for our bug testing
What could POSSIBLY go wrong?
Anonymous No.725390798 [Report]
>>725390034
I guess you could train it to detect what's wrong but it would increase the complexity of its brain.
Also, it would be funny to see how well or how much power running 10k instances of a videogame consumes. Specially with how badly optimized AAA games are lately.
Anonymous No.725391175 [Report]
>>725388804
Sounds like the type of thing most companies will use AI for. Tedious tasks that would otherwise go to low skill/low pay jobs.
Anonymous No.725391182 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
This looks like buzzwords to bump stock value up - next they'll announce a 100 million partnership with OpenAI and get in on the grift as well.
... Jokes aside, AI != LLM. If QA busywork gets automated by some specialised ML agent, that's to everyone's benefit - as long as QA can still do its job.
Anonymous No.725391434 [Report]
The people making these decisions at SE are so fucking retarded.
Anonymous No.725392110 [Report]
>>725390182
yeah, all of the fucking LLMs ive tried blatantly fucking lie to me very often
>programming issue: starts fucking giving me syntax for a completely fucking different language or simply making up library functions
>troubleshooting some network issue: simply forgets what router i have and gives blatantly wrong info
>trying to use AI to guide me through some mod-tool or some other slightly more complex program: literally copy pastes some vaguely related reddit post saying “just do this, bro”
>try “doing just this”, bro, and turns out those directions were for 3 main versions (post was made in like 2009 for example)
THIS shit is meant to replace upper and lower management? it can barely answer a fuckjng google query! i’d say it’s good at summarising google results but when google is half decade old reddit posts, it gets shit wrong!!
>just use this specific version of chatGPT bro
trust me i shopped around. free, old, new, running locally, running on some cloud, set up myself, or using a premium cloud one, they all fucking hallucinate or eventually bug out in some way.
Anonymous No.725392301 [Report] >>725402710
>>725385415 (OP)
Atlus is going to win the JRPG war.
Anonymous No.725392664 [Report] >>725395232 >>725395442 >>725402796
>>725385415 (OP)
The AI just does stupid shit like trying to run out of bounds or trying to break the game by using the weakest weapon in the game on the strongest boss. It is a completely mundane task better left to AI.

Also, if you think Square Enix is the only publisher doing this, then you are a complete brainlet. It will become the norm within 5 to 10 years.
Anonymous No.725392959 [Report]
>square enix makes /v/ upset once more
based desu
Anonymous No.725394164 [Report]
>>725387096
you're doing a great job
Anonymous No.725395232 [Report] >>725395618
>>725392664
Still a white guy in the window
Why does no one ever fix that
Anonymous No.725395442 [Report] >>725402796
>>725392664
This Anon understands. Mouth breathers see "AI" and chimp out but nobody wants to jump against a wall for 8 hours to see if the game breaks, that's better left to AI.
Anonymous No.725395618 [Report]
>>725395232
>Good catch! Here is the same image but with more black people, does this fulfill your request?
Anonymous No.725396056 [Report] >>725396347
>>725385415 (OP)
I had a discussion about this with a friend when AI was just starting to catch on, and we both pretty much arrived at the idea that this is a far more well-intentioned use of AI than using it to replace the creative element, but it's ability to do it effectively is questionable since 80%-90% of quality control issues/bugs are perceived by human sensibilities in ways that a computer wouldn't know to identify (I.E. a piece of cloth not loading animation physics, that sort of thing.)

So identification's gonna be a big part of training it.
Anonymous No.725396235 [Report] >>725398220
>>725388824
First, and more annoying, AI is being marketed mostly based on making people feel smart, which is achieved by the AI always providing an answer, and trending towards what you were expecting anyways. The AI is a model employee; it never backtalks, it never complains that what you have told it to do is stupid, and it always comes back with an answer. That answer is never surprising, except when it starts hallucinating, and makes you feel good for asking a smart question or request. This is the actual marketing thrust behind AI, it is sold to people who don't actually do work, as better than their employees because it acts like the perfect employee.
Second, and more disappointingly. "I don't know" is too short, and leaves nowhere for the AI to go afterwards. The AI NEEDS to keep talking. Really. It needs to. The AI is trained to keep talking. The AI is trained to always leave outs for itself to keep talking more. "I don't know" is a hard terminus for conversation generation, that the AI must avoid at all costs. Yes, this is retarded, and part of the problem with actually using these damn things for anything useful besides data aggregation and brainstorming. If presented with a short truth, or a long lie, the AI will take the lie every time.
Anonymous No.725396347 [Report]
>>725396056
A lot of QA is also mind numbing repetition of menial tasks so it will be useful for that as well.
Anonymous No.725396571 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
I don't play square enix games.
Anonymous No.725396725 [Report] >>725398528
>>725386160
It’s 2025. Good things don’t get made anymore. You get worse shit and it’s more expensive.
Anonymous No.725397542 [Report] >>725398220
>>725388824
Because there is no intelligence here anon. It is really incredible how little people know about LLMs. They predict words based on input words. There are systems built around them to try to steer those predictions around, for example using web search to supplement the input words to attempt to make the generated response take into account things that may have occurred after the data the model was trained on, but that's it. The model will not generate "I don't know" of its own volition because there is no volition or actual "knowledge," only words that it has been trained to consider more likely than other words based on the words that came before. Systems including LLMs can still be useful despite these shortcomings, but not nearly to the degree the hype retards are promising. the no human labor in just 2 more weeks and 20 trillion more dollars bro pls niggers are just grifters.
Anonymous No.725397648 [Report]
>>725386160
Literally yes.
Anonymous No.725397779 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
Gaming is dead
Anonymous No.725397993 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
doesn't matter because i'm not going to be playing any of their games
Anonymous No.725398220 [Report] >>725402352
>>725388824
>>725389247
>>725389551
>>725396235
>>725397542
Are you people using self-hosted LLMs or have you not properly instructed your GPT or something? If I ask my goto a question and it doesn't know it will 99% of the time just say that it doesn't know. Unless you say something like
>please guess at and make up the top 10 rappers from Singapor and make it sound as believable as possible
most AI are pretty straight with me.
Anonymous No.725398528 [Report]
>>725396725
Remember when Sonic said he wanted fewer games with worse graphics that cost more and he wasn't kidding? Either he fucking called it or I am missremembering that meme.
Anonymous No.725398623 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
I dont care, because Square Enix doesn have anything to offer to me besides KH4 and who knows how that will end up
Anonymous No.725398712 [Report] >>725399795
>>725386160
Thats going to affect the bottom line anon. Talent costs money and we need to make the most visually appealing game out there even though it runs like shit
Anonymous No.725399231 [Report]
This from the company who has fallen for every tech grift the last 20ish years. How'd Web 3.0 gaming work out? What about NFTs? See huge profit from the blockchain concepts?
I am 0% surprised Squate Enix, of all retarded companies, are all-in on AI.
Anonymous No.725399613 [Report]
I know S-E used ChatGPT recently to translate FFXI patch notes, and that's about it.
Anonymous No.725399795 [Report] >>725400252
>>725398712
>most visually appealing
What's sad is that this shit isn't even true anymore. Like say what you want about FF13, and it sucks ass IMO, but it still has a better visual style than anything that came aftet it. XVI and Flopbirth both look generic as hell.
Anonymous No.725400252 [Report]
>>725399795
XIV looks nice
Anonymous No.725400292 [Report] >>725403613
>>725385415 (OP)
>>725385648
Most if not all QA departments have automated testing already, it's not AI testing, but it is automated testing from general test cases, to specific netcode or gameplay automated testing.
"Problem" is that most of QA is thinking outside of the box, yes QA should look for and report back bugs that are immediately encountered by severity but most of actual a QA job is free testing, regression testing, edge case testing, etc, because what human QA is supposed to do is discover bugs that aren't immediately apparent.
Technically it's still possible to develop an AI tester for such a game but only if it's a long franchise kinda based on the same source code since an "AI" is mostly just a self-trained if/then/else at the core, but if you wanna use for a one-off game that's even a bit different, it'll be hard to train it properly throughout all the different iteration a game undergoes.
Anonymous No.725400478 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
Oh boy, can't wait for SE to start shitting out Bethesda tier jank.
Anonymous No.725402007 [Report]
Of course they want that, they want anything that'll save them even 10 cents. But this kind of decision is being made by out of touch old men who think AI is literal magic and can do anything they can think of.
Anonymous No.725402352 [Report]
>>725398220
It doesn't change the truth anon. AIs, be they self hosted or "properly instructed" are not intelligence. It does not know things, it does not learn anything beyond what word it thinks comes next. It doesn't really even know what a sentence is or if it's made one. It just knows "these words usually go in this order and then I put a period.

By becoming convinced that AI is actually smart, you have only proven that you are not.
Anonymous No.725402481 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
It's not like the industry is doing a good job regarding QA and debuging right now
Anonymous No.725402586 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
Feels like im selling my stock in Square and no longer buying the games they make.

Not to big of a stretch anyway since it seems all they can make is remakes.
Anonymous No.725402710 [Report] >>725402778 >>725416987
>>725392301
Faglus gives every penny they make to sega. They just got replaced by E33 too.
Anonymous No.725402778 [Report] >>725403048 >>725408674
>>725402710
Is that game any good?
Anonymous No.725402796 [Report]
>>725392664
>>725395442
Yeah of course no one WANTS to do that, that's why they are PAID to do that. Money is exchanged for a service. AI is not magic and there is a very solid chance that the people who want to replace QA with AI are just going to put "Fix the bugs in my code" and then say good enough when it does basically nothing because the AI doesn't actually know anything.
Anonymous No.725403048 [Report]
>>725402778
It's a lazy persoyna clone that took 8 years to make.
Anonymous No.725403261 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
>AI
>For QA
Literally the wrist possible use case for AI. Good to know square is still retarded
Anonymous No.725403353 [Report] >>725403520 >>725403631
>>725385415 (OP)
Are you a playtester? The lowest job that barely qualify as a dev, practically a janny?
If not, then you have nothing to worry about
Anonymous No.725403520 [Report]
>>725403353
the players who receive the AI-tested games will have plenty to worry about.
Anonymous No.725403613 [Report] >>725408402
>>725400292
AI is infinitely better at random inputs than humans though. Shit, you see AI coming up with bullshit humans haven't quite often when training AI to do things.
Anonymous No.725403631 [Report]
>>725403353
There are loads of retards who will actively chase/support/vote against their own interests because they have this mindset of "When I make it, I'm gonna use all this stuff that they're using against me, so it's good"
Anonymous No.725405658 [Report] >>725405827
didn't square also want to go all-in on NFT trash?
Anonymous No.725405827 [Report]
>>725405658
Not as hard as Ubisoft did.
Anonymous No.725406265 [Report]
If you can't even trust the validity of google's AI answers, what makes you think you can offload majority of your quality assurance and debugging to it??? You're gonna destroy anything you create by thinking AI will save you
it's only going to create more problems that you have to manually fix

Holy fuck the pipe dream of these people
Anonymous No.725408402 [Report]
>>725403613
That's another problem, it isn't about random inputs and brute-forcing random inputs until stuff breaks in a player-intended way is bound to be inefficient as hell.
Yeah it's much better at random inputs and it would probably have a case for that, but players break the game in ways that are not completely random and I could argue that even if we think "lolsorandom" at a specific edge case, it has some rational thinking behind it, some linearity in cognitive processing and most of the time it's built upon multiple failures where a mathematical formula wouldn't make sense anymore.

Where I'm trying to draw the line is that it will be game genre or mechanic specific obviously there are less things to test in a 2D environment than in a 3D one, same can happen where an AI doesn't have context and that's human cognition that takes into consideration not only the game at hand but also the historical access to other games, others genres, real life experience, sensory inputs, etc

There will be a difference and in QA it will be tricky as hell
Anonymous No.725408474 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
AI is automation.
If you don't care about the motherboard your PC uses being assembled by a robot, you shouldn't care about some software content being tested or even made by a robot. Even when it comes to games and "art" in general, most work is mundane and mechanical and not really creative. Specially QA. Only absolutely retards would oppose AI in this situation.
Anonymous No.725408569 [Report]
A lot of cope ITT.
Anonymous No.725408674 [Report]
>>725402778
Yeah, if you enjoy JRPGs it's a lot of fun.
Anonymous No.725408751 [Report] >>725411854 >>725413220
>>725385415 (OP)
>QA and debugging
Out of all the shit they could've tried using the AI for they chose the single least compatible task with it.
Anonymous No.725411306 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
Squeenix will end up like Ubishit and get bailed out by chinks or sandniggers
Anonymous No.725411521 [Report] >>725411926 >>725413220
>>725385415 (OP)
All companies are jumping on AI because it's the next investment scam. Like DEI was for the last 15 years. SquareEnix (and their parent Sony) are no different. They go to their shareholders and say "we're getting into AI and AI will bring AI to the forefront of AI technologies and AI is AI of the AI." Basically spamming the word AI as much as possible to get the idiot investors to throw more money at them. Then they invest that money in other things. That's the scam.

In a decade when the investors realize they aren't getting the returns they were promised, they'll leave in anger. But Square still keeps their money. And then they jump on whatever the next scam is and gets new gullible investors to pay into it. In reality, AI isn't going to be used much. A couple people will be tasked with doing pointless AI jobs while everyone else makes the games like before.
Anonymous No.725411769 [Report] >>725411940
>AI
>QA
That's literally impossible to achieve.

The entire point of QA is try things that only a REAL player would do. It's a long repetitive process of basically throwing your head against the wall over and over trying different things to discover glitches and the like. You cannot make a computer recreate that process
Anonymous No.725411793 [Report]
Honestly love it so far since XV-kun is having a melty about it
https://x.com/_bazztek/status/1987275551279882595?s=46&t=X6q6G6GH6N1PwuWakWFdRQ
Anonymous No.725411854 [Report]
>>725408751
Kurara... she's not looking too hot...
Anonymous No.725411871 [Report]
Same shit as claiming they'd integrate NFTs into all their games, dumb bloviating from their executives and it won't come to pass
Anonymous No.725411926 [Report] >>725412268
>>725411521
>SquareEnix (and their parent Sony)
Anonymous No.725411940 [Report]
>>725411769
yeah but this seems in line with what square enix would do. They haven't made a single good decision since the ff12 fiasco.
Anonymous No.725412268 [Report] >>725413220
>>725411926
Sony has a large share in the company. And has forced them to do a lot of shit like exclusivity deals and forming the ethics committee (filled with Sony employees).
Anonymous No.725413220 [Report]
>>725408751
Well Clarabro, corpos aren't run by smart people anymore.

>>725411521
>>725412268
You sure? Sony is scummy as fuck but they dont own SE as far as I'm aware
Maybe you're thinking of HSBC and JP Morgan Chase?
https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/stock/shareholder.html
Anonymous No.725413328 [Report]
finding bugs is cancer
yes AI should be saving lots of time in that regard
good thing
Anonymous No.725414480 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
Anonymous No.725416787 [Report] >>725422805 >>725427026
>>725385415 (OP)
they just did mass lay-offs and are probably shutting down their western branch so I feel good
Anonymous No.725416987 [Report] >>725418308 >>725418358
>>725402710
Japan used to make some great games like Persona 5, Nier Automata, Dark souls 3, Sekiro, BoTW, Xenoblade 2, MHW, RE7, FE3H, RE4R, Ryza 1-3, SF6, Mario wonder, pikmin 4, Elden ring, Unicorn overlord, Like a dragon 7, Asstro bot, metaphor since 2017, but how can they fall so soon this year and get mogged by Chinese black ships like genshin, starrail, ZZZ, WuWa, Wukong, petite planet, Phantom blade zero, Ananta, nexus anima,
Korean black ship Like Woochi,Tal,Lies of P,Crimson desert, and French black ship like expedition 33 and Asscreed shadow? Why did Japanese game which was glorious in 2024 tremble so easily?
No Japanese game this year got metascore over 90. Wilds, Yumia ,Mario kart world and pokemon legends ZA shows Japanese game's absolute fall this year.
While Western game was suffering this last year. But it became opposite this year as western games revived with Kingdom come 2, Doom dark age, expedition 33, Oblivion remaster, hades 2, silksong, man.
And switch 2 has nailed on coffin on Japanese games due to fuckin' greed and keycard, wahoo! And due to MKW forcing intermission due to Devs' ego!
What is left in Japan now?
Anime? Solo leveling was AOTS last year, and China makes them better, TBHX, nezha and LoTM. Kpop demon hunter is more popular than demon slayer, JJK, CSM in Japan. Anime industry is shattering by delays, layoff and bankrupts.
Comics? Entertainment? Korea makes them better.
Car? Korea and China makes them better, Hyundai and BYD.
Subculture? BA has 2000 comicket booth.
Japan is NOTHING!! but being bear foods!!
As no Western nation suffers from casualty by wild beast such as Wolf, bear and lion.
Nintendo is no match for Chinese AAA games' wave incoming!!
Anonymous No.725417078 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
worried about what?
the quality has dropped since the PS2 era
in FFXVI you go out of your way to pick up an item and it's 2 gil
4 year old me could've told you that this is bad game design but their QA team can't?
Anonymous No.725418308 [Report]
>>725416987
>Japan used to make some great games
They still do.
>No Japanese game this year got metascore over 90.
>basing quality on critic reviews
And that's it. Opinion ignored.
Anonymous No.725418358 [Report] >>725419827
>>725416987
>great games like Persona 5
Anonymous No.725419827 [Report] >>725420354 >>725423860
>>725418358
Were Persona 5, Nier Automata, Dark souls 3, Sekiro, BoTW, Xenoblade 2, MHW, RE7, FE3H, RE4R, Ryza 1-3, SF6, Mario wonder, pikmin 4, Elden ring, Unicorn overlord, Like a dragon 7, Asstro bot, metaphor overrated by critics, players, and masugomis(mass media crap)?
Anonymous No.725419981 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
But how will they get bots to buy 70% of the games?
Anonymous No.725420237 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
I was already prepared for pt3 to be a Chernobyl tier dumpster fire, so at this point square is "working hard" to meet my expectations
At this point I just wanna kick back, sip some tequila or scotch, and enjoy the fuckery
Anonymous No.725420354 [Report] >>725423860
>>725419827
Don't know, don't care, I don't read critics or any kind of reviews. I play video games. Persona 5 is fucking garbage.
Anonymous No.725420680 [Report]
>>725388824
It's text completion software that writes fictional stories, it's not meant to give true real world facts you fucking retards.
Anonymous No.725421435 [Report]
>>725388824
>Why the fuck can't any of them just say "I don't know?" to questions they don't have an answer to instead of making up bullshit? This single thing makes them all completely useless.
The second it says it doesn't know something, then people will stop blindly trusting it. And the whole point is for the sheep to use it for everything. It's a control device. Not a "helper."
Anonymous No.725421545 [Report]
isn't QA already automated using automated regression testing? i'm confused. do they mean even setting that up cuz that's a bit excessive.
Anonymous No.725421846 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
>Putting our games on Xbox will save us!!!!!
>Oh wait fuck
>Plan B!
Anonymous No.725421912 [Report] >>725422363 >>725427026
Once part 3 of the FF7 Remake comes out Square Enix will go out of business anyways.
Anonymous No.725422008 [Report]
>squeenix
What's there to be worried about?
Anonymous No.725422010 [Report]
The schizo will be on his death bed seething about "Square Enix going bankrupt soon"
Anonymous No.725422363 [Report] >>725427026
>>725421912
Sadly, no. Their MMOs and Dragon Quest games will make up the losses. Plus all their outside non-game investments.
Anonymous No.725422805 [Report]
>>725416787
based as fuck
Anonymous No.725423728 [Report] >>725433281
>>725385415 (OP)
I would stop buying any Square games but I'm committed to FF73 at this point so that'll be the last one for me
Anonymous No.725423860 [Report] >>725425321
>>725419827
>>725420354
>only seethes about Persona 5
Final Fantasy fans still seething about Atlus superiority, I see...
Anonymous No.725423954 [Report] >>725424037
>ai will be blasting through every possible route of the game
>walking on every polygon of terrain
>bombarding it with billions of iterations of actions and sequences to find places it breaks
we will find all glitches and common bugs and games will be fantastic
Anonymous No.725424037 [Report] >>725425218
>>725423954
if claude has taught me anything it's ai won't do shit
Anonymous No.725424164 [Report]
>>725386021
>Do you want them to have trannies and niggers do QA or jeets?
FTFY
Anonymous No.725424414 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
the squeenix board should be replaced by ai
Anonymous No.725424571 [Report]
we know you like mischief makers, you massive faggot
Anonymous No.725425185 [Report]
>buying modern SEslop
Haha pass.
Anonymous No.725425218 [Report]
>>725424037
just use chatgpt he is best boy
Anonymous No.725425321 [Report]
>>725423860
Nope, I'm an SMT fan which is why I can tell you that Persona 5 is fucking garbage.
Anonymous No.725425543 [Report]
>>725389551
>not part of the training data
Half the dataset is internet forums with questions and replies that are "dunno lol same problem here," so it definitely is in. The entire fault lies in human assholes responsible for ""curating"" the model's output. That's also why all the big online models refuse to spit out anything remotely "insensitive."
Anonymous No.725426034 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
BASED
Anonymous No.725427026 [Report]
>>725416787
>are probably shutting down their western branch
What do you mean by that?

>>725421912
>>725422363
This, their manga division is keeping the company afloat.
FMA will still make them money and while stuff like Red Ranger Isekai, Ragna Crimson or Vermeil in Gold isn't hyper mega popular stuff, they sell well
Anonymous No.725427816 [Report]
Glad I managed to refund Rebirth.
Anonymous No.725427904 [Report] >>725428074 >>725428992 >>725429792
In case anybody missed it, SE fired that shitlib cunt that has been head of their localization division and replaced her with a white man.
Anonymous No.725428074 [Report] >>725428482 >>725428570
>>725427904
Ok, and you're just gonna assume he's not a libcuck?
Anonymous No.725428482 [Report]
>>725428074
I mean sure, he might be. But they've also been firing other shitlibs.
Anonymous No.725428570 [Report]
>>725428074
He's been there since ARR and never caused problems before.
Anonymous No.725428656 [Report]
>>725386021
Cosmic cope
Anonymous No.725428992 [Report] >>725429194
>>725427904
The major problem with the localizations has been coming from SE of Japan. They;re the ones that keep pushing all the accent/name changes and tons of "context" changes.
Anonymous No.725429194 [Report] >>725429269 >>725429896
>>725428992
And now they're laying off all the shitlibs so... yeah.
Anonymous No.725429269 [Report]
>>725429194
too little too late, the cancer at Square's vidya division is near terminal and it may just spin off to protect the company as a whole
Anonymous No.725429372 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
>How do we feel about this
Why are you such a faggot? How do YOU feel about it? There is no we.
Anonymous No.725429792 [Report]
>>725427904
Don't care. Not resubbing until they publicly execute her and revert all jobs to stormblood kits.
Anonymous No.725429832 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
look at windows 11, same shit is going to happen to square enix games
Anonymous No.725429896 [Report]
>>725429194
The libs are not the ones doing it. Well, unless the Japanese head of localization is a lib. A shitlib started this whole crap (Richard Honeywood). But he fucked off to Blizard like 15 years ago. It's the Japanese head of localization who keeps his practices going. And made it even more extreme.
Anonymous No.725430065 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
A: In favor because massive US game studios make games more expensive
B: Against it because woke games won't be obliteraded once they fail
Anonymous No.725430546 [Report] >>725430634 >>725430656
>>725386021
>says the path splits
>one route leads to hell
>the other is also hell
what if I just walk off the road and buy a actually good indie game made by people that give a shit instead of the company that can barely juggle its own finances while barely surviving from a MMOs funds

This is the same fucking company that moved their office based on the advice of a fortune teller
Anonymous No.725430634 [Report]
>>725430546
>This is the same fucking company that moved their office based on the advice of a fortune teller
It was a geomancer and it's only rational to want to put your office in a place with good chi flow.
Anonymous No.725430656 [Report] >>725431529 >>725433258
>>725430546
You do know that Square has a manga division right?
Anonymous No.725430753 [Report] >>725430846 >>725431127
>Dude, let's just rugpull entry level positions entirely! That won't have severe consequences for future freshly employed graduates and workers lmao
Anonymous No.725430835 [Report] >>725430948
>>725385415 (OP)
Good. I can't wait to watch them burn their company down with their own hands.
Anonymous No.725430846 [Report]
>>725430753
>NOOOOOOO how will they survive without californians?!
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH EAT SHIT FAGGOT
Anonymous No.725430948 [Report]
>>725430835
As long as they finish KH4 and somehow make it the grand finale of the series that KH3 should have been
Anonymous No.725431127 [Report]
>>725430753
When you're hiring "recent graduates" who majored in gender studies and HR management, they should be fired. They're the epitome of pointless jobs only there to benefit themselves.
Anonymous No.725431252 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
I don't care. square games haven't been good for years anyway
Anonymous No.725431330 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)

AI is fucking gay and will cause the apocalypse and I'll never use it.
Anonymous No.725431529 [Report] >>725432016 >>725433118
>>725430656
wait since when? I know Square is god awful at advertising but I hardly hear about what they’ve published outside of games and the odd animated tie in game movie
Anonymous No.725431948 [Report]
>>725385415 (OP)
I see no negative side to this. either they miraculously start making good games again, or they will still be complete shit.
Anonymous No.725432016 [Report]
>>725431529
For awhile.
The biggest manga they did was probably FMA.
Anonymous No.725433118 [Report] >>725433797
>>725431529
Since the Wada days.
Pretty much anything Hiromu Arakawa did (FMA) is by SE.
Soul Eater? SE.
My Dress-Up Darling? SE.
The Apothecary Diaries? SE.
Ragna Crimson? SE.
The list goes on, they've got a really successful gig in the manga industry thanks to Wada expanding the company as a publisher.
Anonymous No.725433258 [Report]
>>725430656
They also fund a lot of anime projects. And obviously work in advertising into those shows.
Anonymous No.725433281 [Report]
>>725423728
>I would stop eating shit, but I'm committed to eating this shit sandwich and giving them money for it to encourage them to continue making shit that I plan to eat later.
Anonymous No.725433797 [Report]
>>725433118
My favorite SE manga that isn't FMA is Vermeil in Gold
I wish that they would do a S2 or at least give the US a physical release
Anonymous No.725433909 [Report]
I would need to talk to them to understand totally.