Thread 725415715

what went wrong?

Nothing? People like this game plenty well still.

>>725415715 (OP)
Starting making the game for his cringe discord community. You can pin point the exact moment 2 years ago when it happened.

>>725415715 (OP)
Not enough ariral futa art

Too many spooks hidden behind obscure rain dance rituals. There's nothing suspenseful about having to look up how to trigger the spooky monster to spawn and chase you.

>>725415715 (OP)
0.9

>>725415715 (OP)
0.9 is like a parody of the complaints people had with the previous few versions

>>725418373
>>725418709
qrd?

>>725415715 (OP)
No first person fully animated scene of being raped by the cats

>>725415715 (OP)
Not enough arirals content.

>Haven't fixed 0.9 yet
I don't mind the new stuff to do I guess but the fuse prices are bullshit and it was just too buggy. I couldn't even finish my tasks some days because I'd finish downloading a signal and it would just not let me save it, I'd have to just overwrite it and download a new one.

>>725415715 (OP)
the control scheme is shite

>signals collecting is boring, tedious, and there have been no new signals for years
>Lets just make getting signals more tedious and add no new ones!
>getting negative rep with arirals has no benefits and is purely negative since you lose out on never needing food since they face fuck you full of futa catgirl cum every night
>uhh... why would i add a upside to this part of the game with unique events?

>>725415715 (OP)
Nothing at all, chud. change != bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXlVEz5YWJs

OJOJOJOJOJOJOJOJOJ

>>725421618
wtf is even that shit
>you dont like this test feature in this testing version clearly in there to recieve feedback from the community then you are a evil harrasser that send me death threats and want to rape my rostie ass, why cant you just turn the feature off and send positive feedback

>>725418373
>>725418709
Is it really that bad? The faq on the changes I read implies there's more tasks to do and less time to do them, which I can see being controversial but personally I think I like the idea of more stress and less downtime.

>>725422586
its just generators again but now there isn't kerfur to deal them in the endgame

>>725415715 (OP)
Nothing, Games still in early access so just voice your thoughts about something you dislike in hopes that Nose sees it

>>725417556
This is my main gripe with the game. Looked up the Red Skeleton and how it's activated. Do something you'd never ever think to do or a 0.000001% chance to spawn. That's about 99% of the shit in this game. I hate it. I want to get spooked.

>>725422586
if you're also fine with having to send 5 signals on the first day you shouldn't be as bothered as the rest by the update

no minigame where you have ball slapping sex with kerfur

A horror game where you have to go out of your way to actually find the horror. You can get a prompt that it's happening like not being able to save, try everything a normal person would think of and sprint around all over the place, and you'll miss it half of the time regardless. The game is fantastic when you're new and blind to how it works but then it completely flips on its head once you learn. You go from hiding when things happen or the radar picks up to sprinting straight to the atv with a radio blaring and driving directly towards the danger, because most of the time there's no danger it's just a stupid meme.

Just saw an image of that kerfus think with hyper cock and dicknipples so, thanks for that

The game is still great, but it got mildly popular so /v/ has to hate it now.

The game favours generic demon and ghost shit over spooky aliens. The greys are overdesigned and show up too late, the pigs aren't scary, the tank is cool but not scary, the stuff with erie if you burn her isn't scary by association with a retarded design and character purely designed as fetish fuel, the arirals aren't scary and are also just fetish fuel and always invisible because the modeller is genuinely fucking awful at making decent looking humanoids, they're also comedic relief mary sues. the wisps are scary at first but balls of light are lame, the ventcrawler is a non entity, the robot guys are cool as fuck but also not even slightly scary, every single cool event is locked behind ARG shit that you have to look up because nobody but teams of dedicated autists can figure it out, and even they have to be spoonfed in private discord channels by dr nose. No new signals in years, events being guaranteed on certain days removes tension from future runs, and every other mechanic is designed mostly to annoy you or be funny to watch streamers react to.
It's a damn good game, and I still play it and love it, but I can't help but feel it's because it's the ONLY game that does what it does. If there was another besides signal sim, VOTV would be irrelevant. It lost the plot.
If dr nose browses this shithole, fix your game and put in more spooky aliens. All I want, all I fucking want, is to have fear that some ayy lmao will be peeking in through my window, or more mysterious things in space that bring a feeling of dread. I want to feel like I've fucked up by seeing certain signals, the game has a few of those moments but too few.

>>725423660
I just want more real events I actually get to experience on my own and less ARG bullshit made for the discord to dig up. I know this game essentially just exists so the dev can watch Joel play it, but not everyone wants to live vicariously through a streamer.

>>725424507
Sorry, "Every cool event is locked behind ARG shit" and "Events are too guaranteed" make me sound like a schizo. But I hope the point comes across. Besides the spoonfed scares you're not going to find anything unless you're lucky or already know everything about the game.

>>725415715 (OP)
dr nose made a discord server

>>725424547
>ARG bullshit made for the discord to dig up
*ARG bullshit made for patrons to bask int he superiority of knowing all the answers to
ftfy

The more obscure and impossible the ARG, the longer patrons can smugly laugh at discordites scrambling to figure things out. There's a reason why so much care and effort has been put into demonizing dataminers, and it's because it ruins VotV's business model

>>725424937
This right here is the worst fucking part.
The game could have a cool thing going where there's plenty of scares, then a fuckton of extra scares hidden under obscure conditions so individuals accidentally stumble upon it and spread rumours like kids on the playground. But 90% of the stuff is hidden, and the answers are already known by people who pay up to feel superior. Instead of people discussing the possibility that you can unlock luigi if you collect every coin then run circles around the fuckin' star statue, it's a group of THOSE kids who say "Yeah, I know how to do it, but I'm not telling youuuuu~"
Nobody wants to deal with those guys, and this is a community that fosters those on purpose.

>>725424937
I don't get it. Why would the patreon subscribers want to just be spoiled to everything? How can any spook be spooky if you have to already know about it before it happens?

>>725424937
the game feels like its discord only makes it worse in the long run. Normally you can ignore whatever the fuck a game's discord gets up to but in the case of VotV all too often I'll check out an update and find some dumb bullshit with too much dev time, wonder who the fuck asked for this, and then I remember Nose is a terminally online discord server owner.

>>725415715 (OP)
Main issues I have are
>ATV battery draining as fast as it is
>Hash collection is now tediously waiting for the computer to flip heads in 10 coin tosses in a row
>Radio tower fuses burn out way too fast
and then just general bugs like the day/night speed slider not working, or Dr. Bow demanding 5 drives at the start (allergically)

>>725424507
>If there was another besides signal sim
Dead Signal?

>>725425561
Interesting. It doesn't look fully like my style, but I'll give it a fair shot. Never know when you can be pleasantly surprised, and there's not many others like this

>>725424507
I absolutely agree, the biggest gripe for me was that there's a set series of big events that happen in order day by day

I'd much prefer more unpredictability

i'm an urbanite, do most ATV's not have an alternator?

>>725427741
They do, dr nose just doesn't know / care about vehicles or else just wants to make it as annoying as possible

>>725428664
lol i just looked it up after posting with so much confidence, most don't but they have other things and dr nose still just wants to make shit as annoying as possible

>>725415715 (OP)
The Vinesauce Community

>>725424593
Oh no, you're right. The guy puts stuff into his gameyou have to datamine to figure out. At one point he made the Demon summoning ritual involve you placing I think skulls into a PIXEL PERFECT Hexagram. The only way to pull it off was to 3d model a Hexagram and import it into the game through the 3D printer to use as a guide for placement.

>>725424507
>>725415715 (OP)
One of the biggest issues with this game is that it doesn't seem to have as much of a love for SETI and UFO culture that something like signal sim did. Too much OC stuff from the devs that overshadows classic Aliens.

>>725415715 (OP)
What the fuck do you do in this game?
I watched someone play the game and all they do is run around an empty map. Granted it was only 30 minutes but they did nothing but run to a satelite dish played some on/off minigame and went back to their base.

>>725430198
the game solely exists for the creator to jerk off his OC space cat species and to farm scream clips of joel

>>725430291
You're SUPPOSED to be triangulating signals from space and downloading them to decipher, listen to them, then send them off back to your bosses. But the dev sidelined the main objective in his own game for mass amounts of busy work.

>>725430143
dolls, not skulls. and turns out the hexagon (not hexagram, let's not repeat that fucking lbunder again) actually already existed in game as the radio tower's base being the perfect, intended size

Signal Simulator was better

>>725430663
I agree, Joel

control scheme sucks
intentional jank and HL default noises are jarring and unfun
some well made horror elements, many over the top SCP or scifi ripoffs
core gameplay loop frustrating to engage with
troon coded in general game smells like silicon lube and shit

>>725430198
greys are uncslop

>Game is about getting signals in the middle of bumfuck nowhere
>Gameplay loop is simple yet entertaining, with the occasional strange sound cue or small event to keep you on your toes
>Game gets popular and attracts the usual discord crowd
>Completely drop the ball and turn the game into Viscera Cleanup Detail
>Stop adding new signals for years, and focus on adding tedium, useeless mechanics, decorative items, and in-your-face, unsubtle events and spooks
>Let your tranny modeler openly boast about how his personal goal is to twinkify the player model as much as possible, and force their shitty Second Life shark OC in the game, along with Vivziepop shit.
>Make sure getting signals is the most painful and unrewarding experience possible, ensuring players will do anything but what the game was about initially
That's pretty much it. As >>725416858 said, you can pinpoint when it went to shit.

>>725431164
What version was it before it went too shitcord version

>>725431262
I'd say the last version before the huge base overhaul, when the base didn't have a 2nd floor.

Wishlist is a more grounded and realistic SETI style game that leads in more on the mystery, suspense and dread and mechanically develops its systems to be more physical and interactable. Seems more like an ugly horror game with a radio astronomy minigame smashed in as a justification.

>>725430143
you're combining the white and black doll requirements into a less mess of nonsense retardbro

>>725415715 (OP)
Too tedious for a funni slop
Too silly for a scary slop

not enough catgirl alien futa on human male content

yeah game sucks and all but did any of you fags make a cool atv skinswap
https://votv.dev/atv

>>725415715 (OP)
There are no voices in the void.
just lemon trees.

>>725430663
I'm going to wring your neck so hard, you're gonna shit down your own throat!

>>725415715 (OP)
HEY ALIEN FUCK OFF FUCK YOU ALIEN SUCK MY DICK FUCK OFFFUCK OFF ANTI ALIEN ALARM NO ALIENNO MARCIANITO FUCK OFFFUCK YOUFUCK OFFFFFF GET OUT OF HERE ANTI MARCIANITO NONONO FUCK YOU NO LEAVELEAVE ME ALONE BWAAAAAAAAAH GET OUT OF HEREGET OUT OF HERE PROTECTIVE SHIELD PROTECTIVE SHIELD PROTECTIVE SHIELD NO DRACULASNO MUMMYNO ALIEN NO DUENDE ACTIVATE ALARMCANNOT APPROACHYOU WILL DIE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHH

>>725415715 (OP)
instead of focusing on adding more signals, events, and interactions to keep the game interesting he keeps adding bloat mechanics to do everything he can to suck the fun out of playing the fucking game
I'm probably going to try and dig up one of the 0.7 versions and keep it handy since there's no sign of things getting any better

>>725424937
remember when nose changed the code to the tutorial door for no reason and everyone was wagging their fingers saying "im no telling you!!!" then people figured out you could just climb the roof and noclip over the door and they had a meltdown

so much dev time just gets wasted on shit nobody will ever find. And what fucking indie project spends so much time replacing perfectly fine textures and models instead of spending that time making new shit people will actually see? The red skeleton guy is probably the worst offender because there is 0% chance a player will randomly throw a skull into the shower to summon him so I'm pretty sure the dev fed that to his favorite streamer and it trickled down to everyone else as common knowledge instead of something you find yourself.
>>725435396
I like how people asked for new stuff to do or new signals to find and so Nose responded by taking the same gameplay loop and just... making it worse. Literally the opposite of adding new shit he just cut up the current shit into even more tedious pieces but youre still doing the same gameplay loop.

>>725423660
this and the ARG stuff really kills it for me. There needs to be more danger instead of doing chores, seeing a meme, and ignoring gay ARGs

>>725435396
I haven't played 0.9 yet. Can you go into detail what the new stuff is?
>hashcodes on tapes
>coordinate towers
>zip drives

>>725435596
Really? Got any screenshots as this got my interest

Trannies and furfags

>more events?
>more rotzial events?
>more signals?
>No, let's make the gameplay shittier, throw in more streamer meme ARG shit, and remodel the base for the 50th time in a row!

>>725415715 (OP)
Having it take place in a forest instead of a desert like Signal Simulator. I don't wanna drive around an ATV that handles like shit through a forest that's annoying as hell to navigate just so I have enough time to do the manditory annoying ass busy work.

>>725415715 (OP)
>what went wrong?
Not on Steam

>>725431164
>>Completely drop the ball and turn the game into Viscera Cleanup Detail
Oi, VCD is actually fun.

problem is (you) are not the target audience, 14 year old genderfluids on discord are. And those fuckers spend 18 hours a day on their day 250 save 3D printing random garbage and asking Nose to add in new ARG garbage and farming mechanics because they have already done everything and need a new timesink.

>>725435738
How much shittier is the gameplay now? Is it just too busy that you are missing half of the game, because you are stuck fixing shit?

>>725431594
Link? Steam and google shows nothing

>>725430443
So it's another job slop simulator that no one should play except streamers? Got it.

>>725415715 (OP)
I'm still okay with it mainly because there's nothing like it so beggars can't be choosers. I just wish somebody else was handling the game with a much more different philosophy. The creator struck gold with the gameplay mechanic but it's too bad he isn't able to deliver the results I want.

>>725427741
My dad repairs ATVs as a hobby and while I don't give a shit about them every one I've worked on with him has a stator. It's like a car alternator but without the housing. Instead of a belt and pulley the crankshaft drives a magnet in the middle of the stator directly. I hate working on ATVs and shit because you either have a name brand one where the parts cost 6 million dollars each or you have a chinese no name knock off where it's impossible to find parts or diagrams.

>Watching Joel's modded Signal Simulator stream
>MrDrNose is there in chat, constantly typing "VOTV does this better", "this is why I did such and such in VOTV", "taking notes rn"

>>725427741
What's an alternator? Anyway, it's most likely what >>725428664 said. He knows jack shit about vehicles and doesn't want to make it "too good".

>>725436492
Oh, and don't forget "read my messages, Joel".

>>725436492
>>725436615
What drives people to do this?

>>725436492
God hes such a faggot its insane

>>725435708
the new minigame for finding signals involves moving three points on the map until they align with a signal
those three points are associated with three new satellite dishes you have to manage that are placed literally at the map boundaries
these towers have a set of fuses and if the fuses burn out you can't move the associated triangulation point anymore until you fix it so you're shit out of luck in terms of finding more signals for the time being
fixing the tower involves getting replacement fuses, driving out to the ass ends of the map where the towers are, and playing an annoying minigame to replace the fuse to get the tower working again
more replacement fuses cost 100 bucks for some fucking reason
gathering hash codes down involves downloading them onto a tape which you then transfer to a zip drive and the zip drive is what you send off
why you need to put it on a drive instead of just sending the tape? who knows
also the ATV has a battery you have to manage as well as fuel and the tires each have an individual health bar to keep an eye on
and the headlight on the atv is shittier until you upgrade it

basically if he changed something lately in any significant manner he just made if shittier and more tedious for zero benefit

>>725436492
Please tell me this is a joke or bait. There's no way he's THAT fucking pathetic

>>725436862
Either watch the stream yourself or glimpse the list of his chat messages from it in >>725436763.

>>725436615
You can pretty easily guess the patch changes by watching joel's votv streams because I swear like 80% of the changes done are because joel is playing like a monkey and fucking up some event or scene. Then drnose changing shit just to try to herd joel into playing a certain way.
>joel moves the bed downstairs so now the bed is nailed to the floor
>joel pauses all the time during spooky events so no more pausing during events
>joel's constant saving and reloading break events so no saving during events
>etc

I'm fine for the most part with most of the stuff changed in 0.9. There's only 3 things that I genuinely despise:
The price for fuses stupidly high. He needs to either lower it a fuckton, allow for crafting in some way, or at the VERY LEAST, up the price of broken fuses to like 80% of a fuse. I understand the intent of the towers, which is basically a 'go outside even if you have kerfuro', but if you don't have enough fuses you end up having to go back and forth like twice a day and lose 50% of the time doing fuckall
-The time for a signal to fade when trying to triangulate it should be extended, by a lot. It was fine before but now that at the start it takes you a billion years to triangulate a signal and watch the animations and shit I missed like 50% of the signals that I tried to track, which in turn made me waste more time doing fuckall
-The errors when getting the hashcodes on the zips are stupid. You're forced to wait and do nothing. It takes too little for you to go somewhere and do shit, you can only sit and watch and pray, again, doing fuckall

>>725430663
VotV had so much fucking potential by being much more interactive than Signal Sim. When I found it in the early days when the tutorial was a portal reference and the discord was tiny I was so fucking excited for the potential, it was one of the few games where I actually went into the discord to post suggestions and even got a QoL suggestion for the old inventory system into the game.

Then the game slowly took focus away from signals and more towards random jobs and became discord circle jerk, streamer bait, "Cashier at 2 am" job sim with 2000 funy easter eggs and I lost interest in keeping up with updates.
Now signals are just another job you do to get points and it's not even a very good one, you can just fucking farm or sell shit or whatever and get all your money that way. There aren't really any new signals either.
I'll probably give 0.9 a try, but I'm not holding my breath at all.
>>725436492
I saw that too but at least Nose sometimes asked "is there anything in Signal Sim that you'd like to see in VotV?"


Well if you're reading this nose.
>Add more traditional SETI culture and UFO events into the fucking game, stop focusing on your OCs so much and give the greys and shit some more fucking love.
>Add more signals
>Add more events that happen while you're just doing signals.
>Have the player spend more time on the fucking chair doing signals in your fucking signal sim game.
I don't mind him trying to get players to get off their ass sometimes and actually leave the base, but I feel like that's an issue of having things like Kerfu that can just do shit for you to begin with.

I hate how he's basically appealing just to Joel. In general VotV feels like it was initially a love letter to Signal Sim for what signal sim was and then it got popular from streamers, so VotV got flocked to by streamers and their fans, so VotV became a streamer bait game.


Sidenote, signal sim's aesthetic is so fucking comfy it's unreal.

So what the fuck do I do with the wall I tore down in the basement for the secret room? I can't break it, or sell it, or put it in the furnace of wood chipper. Do I just live with it now? It's fucking ugly

HEY ALIEN FUCK OFF FUCK YOU ALIEN SUCK MY DICK FUCK OFFFUCK OFF ANTI ALIEN ALARM NO ALIENNO MARCIANITO FUCK OFFFUCK YOUFUCK OFFFFFF GET OUT OF HERE ANTI MARCIANITO NONONO FUCK YOU NO LEAVELEAVE ME ALONE BWAAAAAAAAAH GET OUT OF HEREGET OUT OF HERE PROTECTIVE SHIELD PROTECTIVE SHIELD PROTECTIVE SHIELD NO DRACULASNO MUMMYNO ALIEN NO DUENDE ACTIVATE ALARMCANNOT APPROACHYOU WILL DIE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHH

>Tutorial went from portal reference to backrooms.
I like poolrooms but the portal reference had more charm

>clean and fix base while downloading signals
>absolutely nothing happens outside of random power outages
cool game

>>725437195
>stop focusing on your OCs
inb4 someone says "the game was originally called Signal Simulator: Ariral Edition" to somehow excuse the enshittening.
>I hate how he's basically appealing just to Joel.
Not just Joel. There is also a buff moth plush for some bara fetish streamer who also played the game.

>>725437531
To be fair that power outage the first time was one of the most scariest fucking moments in my time playing the game.

if you ask me everything started going downhill when we had the big base update
your environment was no longer stark and barren because its an old repurposed bunker now its clearly a research facility if a concrete shitpile of a research facility out in the boonies
everything outside of that big main room and the garage felt like somewhere you only went if you had to including the fucking toilet
people used to spend a day dragging the bed into the main room like maniacs just so they didn't have to go there as much, until he patched it to be fucking nailed down
there was so much more space in the old base to fill with your stuff and make it feel like your own once you'd earned the good goy points to have amenities

my buddy was huge into votv, would stream the game sometimes. never played it myself. seemed like a horror gmod thing, he'd just mess around customizing his base and sometimes something weird happened.

>>725415715 (OP)
Dev focused too much on his fursonas and comedic events.
There's too little in the game that's actually dangerous too, like the Anti-breather should attack you, and stalk you throughout the map when you're out at night.
Instead of seeing the eyes when tired, Kel should hallucinate Grey aliens watching him in the distance, peeking around corners and windows and such. With a few edits, the sleep demon would make a perfect model for a Grey.
The actual Greys should also resemble the sleep demon, (although perhaps with a few cybernetic augmentations to fit the lore) creating the implication that Kel had a close encounter when he was younger that traumatized him and led him into pursuing astonomy to understand what happened to him.

>>725433580
Here's my cool ATV skin
No, really. I literally can't come up with anything better than the bare metal you get with a transparent skin

>>725438012
that requires drastic change in game tone from "LE FUNY MEME CATGIRL ALIENS" to more grounded things
that change will obviously not happen with game current target audience (discord idiots)

>>725431564
This. As much as the new base is cool and all, just navigating that shit is a pain. Nailed mattress is also kinda was a turning point, since it basically showed that it's not about how you want to play the game but how dev wants it and he is willing to make your life difficult for it.

>>725437834
>>725438440
cant you just use sleeping bag?

>>725436058
the coordinates system is unusable on a new save because you now have to move three markers across the entire map one by one to make a triangle to get a signal and the signals will vanish instantly, generators now have like 4 maintenance minigames, there are additional coordinate radars around the map you have to fix every time it storms now.
Hashes were replaced with three floppy disks you have to carry around now and it's complete RNG if they work or not so you will spend 3-4 minutes minimum sitting and staring at a console as it fails and retrys over and over again.

>>725438642
>>725436058
I would take some of the aspects of the new update with a grain of salt because it's a shadow update that doesn't even have patch notes on the itch page despite being a major update.
I'm confident Nose is probably going to tweak shit like the fuses and stuff.

>>725438819
yeah then he shouldnt release it to the public retard, but since he did, he should day one fix the fucking instant disappearing signal and floppy disk fail shit.

>>725438597
sleeping on the floor/not in the actual bed raises chance of nightmares by a massive degree

>>725438928
>When the unstable update that's brand new is unstable with wacky values and new untested mechanics needs feedback.

I'm all for shitting on streamer attention whore Dr. Nose, but getting upset over this is retarded. Wait till he fixes it or accept that you're playing an unstable update.

>>725439190
>Wait till he fixes it

>>725439190
it's been out for a week, there's no excuse for that shit to still be broken, itch.io doesn't charge you to update your game

>>725438597
Why would you use it if you have a bed. The whole point of the bed, I think, really is to tie you to the sleeping room where some events could happen based on location, and also force you to run around the base, since without bed being tied down you really have no reason to do so. Sleeping bag, as much as it's logical is pointless and shouldn't be in the game and bed should be unlocked. If it's possible to buy sleeping bag, why is it not possible to move the bed it self than.
The only reason it seems for sleeping bag is basically this >>725431164 and this >>725425172 because of that teleport event in the well which basically proves the pay to know claims.

It's exactly the same problem as in discussion about elder scrolls and Bethesda's "fast travel" problem. Sleeping bag is like having a fast travel compared to thoughtful implications of in-world transportation system, it's a lazy convince feature that than affects the WHOLE direction of how you structure the entire gameplay of the game in the first place, which both games are living proof of this.

>>725439732
>>725438440
>>725437834

I actually don't mind people being forced to tredge upstairs through spooky ass hallways so they can sleep.

>>725439732
The bed is nailed to the floor because of that one event where the vent cover directly across from your bed pops off. That same event is also tied to positive ariral rep for no reason.

>>725439906
I think all the alien events are bugged in this version so a bunch of events just can't happen now

>>725438819
>because it's a shadow update
It is not a shadow update. He simply forgot to push the patch notes on itch.io. All the patch notes are on Discord. And for the "b" version, which is the bugfix version as usual, he even got rid of the "Pre-Alpha" tag which was present ever since 0.1.

>>725415715 (OP)
More memes, furry shit and e-celeb wanking than actual gameplay and lore.

>>725436763
>>725436492
Oh good fucking God, he's becoming the Hello Neighbour dev.

>>725440264
>lore
Trust me, you don't want that guy's lore.

>>725439824
I don't mind it either but again, you still have a sleeping bag that will basically skip all of it, so it kinda defeats the purpose. With bed being unlocked you could've at least had a choice, it would improve personalization of the base and keep people busy by "dragging the bed". It shows that there is a certain contradicting approach in design that is clearly fucking up the game and bed situation is very initial and obvious example of that. New update and unnecessary tedium of getting signals, which is literally the whole point of the game, is just an extension of that.

>>725435738
>remodel the base for the 50th time in a row!
I do like 0.8 base though, compact but still has space.

>>725440236
Here's the full patch notes for the next version (so far):

Fixed:
>Signal pulse effect on the coordinate panel doesn't have a lifetime indication
>Glowsticks attachment after save and load
>Crash after going to the main menu while downloading the signal (?)
>Kilo server problems
>Medkit bought from the store cant be unpacked
>Server break rate
>Radio tower save and load
>Physical interactions with the drive slot
>Village protection strikes down all entities
>Murderfur debug point is visible
>Floppy discs turn into errors after save and load
>PC doesnt save the floppy disc data
>Transformers decay rate
>Day speed game rule
>Black hole sun teleportation event isnt rendering properly [NEW]
>Certain events not spawning properly [NEW]
>Printed objects bounding box [NEW]
>NPC path finding inside the cremator [NEW]
>Tower, coordinate radar and transformers decay rules arent working [NEW]

Changed:
>Funguns properties
>Item prices
-Fuse
>sv.request doesnt reset the packets
>cr.health and sv.health changed to "check"
>Coordinate towers going down frequency
>Signal amount in the daily task
>Sugar selling price
>cr.check functionality
>ATV
-Default lights brightness
-Car battery depletion
>Office supplies can be crafted into scrap
>Farm plants fruit drop amounts
>Data structures
>"Physics damage" now applies to fall damage and ragdoll damage only
>Objects inside the open containers can be collected or held
>Added physical interactions for: log tapes, zip drive, floppy disc, tape box, cremator
>Kerfur face
>TV screens materials
>Garden hose can be put in inventory
>Cardboard boxes
-Price
-Breakable
-Duct tape is now functional
>Nails strength
>Autumn and spring bird sounds [NEW]
>Printed objects [NEW]
-Added new properties
>Drone sack is detachable [NEW]
>Swimming [NEW]
-Removed depth boyancy
-Reduced swimming speed without the scuba mask
-Added swimming sounds


Added:
(3 microevents, 1 signal)

>joel had to start a new playthrough which means nothing will happen for the next 40 in game days
fucking hell so boring

>>725440443
>It shows that there is a certain contradicting approach in design that is clearly fucking up the game and bed situation is very initial and obvious example of that.
It's just the common issue of the dev going "No don't do that. Play the way I want you to."
He's the dev version of a backseater, which you can see here >>725436763
All the shitty changes he made early on up to now was due to watching Joel do something he didn't like or anticipate.
You can bet your ass all the new busywork changes are because he watched Joel sit in the base and do fecalfunny instead of going outside and getting spooked.

>>725440474
>1 (one) (uno) (eins) (ichi) (yski) new signal

>>725440567
Him just playing normally the way he does also shown a bunch of short comings with some of the new changes like him constantly losing the zip drive or kicking under piles of trash. Funny thing is another streamer did like several weeks of in game days where he purposefully ignored the signal part of the game and just made loads of money off plating crops and selling trash.
It really feels like Nose just wants a game where you play as a space janitor that also interacts with aliens.

>>725417206
>>725418758
both of these

>>725440689
To be fair it COULD be more until its release. But it's unlikely. Here's the full text, because I had to shorten it since the post was too long:

Added:
>1 craft
>1 console command
>3 microevents (watch out) [NEW]
>1 signal (beware) [NEW]

>>725440374
Not going to deny that I enjoyed the few high quality lewds for the space cats that I could find. However their nearly invincible metal and armor lore needs to be changed, it could be high tech plastic or ceramic metal instead of unobtainium metal.

>>725436556
vehicles normally have alternators which charge their batteries as you use them. its why you need to recharge your cars battery if you don't drive it after a long time but don't if you actually drive it.

>>725415715 (OP)
>when an inside joke and community bash gains traction among normalfags and becomes some weird cult hit
People talked about it.

>>725436763
>"I swear to Odin"

>>725440701
>Funny thing is another streamer did like several weeks of in game days where he purposefully ignored the signal part of the game and just made loads of money off plating crops and selling trash.
I like tomato.

>>725433580
decided to look up shitcord liveries: https://files.catbox.moe/8fc5pt.7z
picrel and a few others look decent, the rest are what you'd expect. surprised there's only two pride variants so far, I was prepared to see them be like 90% of all skins by now. oh and there's one guy claiming to be working on 12 different "small equine TV show" skins, that's going to be something.

>>725440943
same happened to Fear and Hunger, and currently happening to Black Souls for some fucking reason

Why did the retard even change the system of getting signals? It was perfectly fine and only needed some fine tuning and balance tweaks, along with adding actual new signal content

>>725440946
Pagan gods are the new "I """worship""" this to spite christianity" now.

>>725435637
>The red skeleton guy is probably the worst offender because there is 0% chance a player will randomly throw a skull into the shower to summon him
I normally would agree with you but i got him even without throwing the skull into the shower, i did have a skull in the signal room but it was on top of the pc, and it happened a while ago so i don't even recall if some event to moved the skull happened, unfortunately i already knew about that event when it happened
>>725435875
nta but not really,i tried to play again but playing crime scene cleaner makes it impossible to go back to it, too much physics bullshit and annoying stuff, wish csc had custom maps and shit
>>725439190
isn't this the paypiggies job?they had a build like a month before the rest of us

Anyway ignoring the coords tower because of the ALT debug shit, is it true that now transformer last as long as 0.8 maxxed out ones?if that's the case then it isn't that bad and i honestly prefer the new signal minigame and if you disagree go ahead and try to get a aignal in 0.8 without upgrades, it's fucking torture, having to do the same shit 5 times bacause rng said so and floppys sound better than writings by hand, but i would definitely prefer if you didn't have to do 10 luck checks especially since you can't do anything while waiting, and tapes are essentially neat freebie, only played for a day and haven't used to atv so i can't speak about that, but unreachable battery and having to swap tires sound fucking awfull

>>725441001
>atv color looks nice
>still the height needs to be raised little bit higher

>>725441060
That feels like reaching and the simpler answer is just because "haha, joel is from a nordic country, bork bork"

>>725441160
True and likely, but you never know.

>>725441160
Yea its probably a Joel joke, but the dev seems like the type of faggot to say it seriously

I heard the drives got replaced with floppy or something? No more edible drives?

>>725439732
Dude fuck you i love the sleeping bag. I still cooked in the room and slept there, its just why the fuck would I leave my goon cave the TV is blasting hentai and I need to make sure I can fill a box in 12 hours.

>>725441332
Nose added 5 more steps to getting signals, each taking 10 minutes to do while adding maybe 2 new signals

>>725439906
>>725440175
Why do you think the vent comes off? It's so they can break into your room and hide in the vents.

>>725441395
>while adding maybe 2 new signals
He didn't add any new signals in 0.9.
Here's what was added:
Added:
>45+ objects
>More trash items
>84 store items
>3 settings
>2 events
>12 minigames [NEW]
>stuff [NEW]

Events are not signals. He says signals outright if they are. See >>725440763

>>725441332
Drives are still there, and I think the edible one in the security checkpoint remains.

Floppies replace the paper of hashes you included in the box to ship out.
You go out to each dish, stick the floppy in, request the hash from the console and wait until it's done.
If the server doesn't have any upgrades it's frustratingly RNG where it'll reset a lot, but a single upgrade helps and more just make it very reliable.
Though I personally like to hold a weapon at either the server or the console to scare the machine into working.

As for the signals itself, people are making a big fuss over having to draw a triangle and having to upgrade cooldown and ping speed.
Once you have those two even slightly upgraded, getting signals is far more reliable than previous version I feel. The rest is all the same.

>>725441332
Drives are still the same.
It's writing down hashes that got replaced by floppies: you put it in the server, do sv.request, wait 5 IRL minutes if RNG hates you (it does) for it to copy to the floppy, then go home and transfer the floppy's content to a zip drive you have to ship to Bao

Pros:
>No more getting hashes wrong
Cons:
>You wait around at the satellite doing literally nothing
>Can't use the console while downloading hash. No sd.calall, no sv.target, nothing.
>Zero incentive to carry notepads and teach players to write down and plan routes
>You can no longer be a scaredy cat running sv.hash at each server and rushing home to safely write the hashes down

>>725418749
Added a lot of rigamarole to the daily tasks while adding few new events and no new signals.

>>725417556
Watching the game a few times on tomatoes channel. Seems like it was intended to be a slow burn sandbox game. Its not like other games where it has a specific end

It takes you multiple in game days to even clean up your area.

>>725415715 (OP)
Too much troon shit then made it "harder" because his troon community said the game was too easy.

>>725441562
>If the server doesn't have any upgrades it's frustratingly RNG where it'll reset a lot, but a single upgrade helps and more just make it very reliable.
I'd actually be fine with this if you could just, carry three upgrades with you, plop them in, request the hash and take the upgrades out. Trade inventory space for reliability.
Make taking out an upgrade have a chance to cause a server to malfunction if you want, even. Repairs could make the entire visit take as long as letting the floppy do it's thing naturally without upgrades and it'd still feel more meaningful than sitting there just doing nothing.

>>725440701
>>725441617
This is part of the fun, everything is a disaster. In one week I can get a big TV and sell most the trash and do all the tasks. Then I load up a day worth of Hentai on it and wait for the Arirals.

>>725440474
By the way. 0.9b will take somewhere between 1 - 5 months, depending on its size and how much he works on it. Just based on previous b/c versions.

>>725441568
that doesn't sound so bad

I bet nose or one of his faggies is reading these threads so here's a RE4 inspired event you could add
>base power outage that can happen randomly at night
>will wake you up / prevent sleep
>spawns a creature (or 2) similar to Regeneradors nearby that start walking towards the base
>they emit a noise similar to Regeneradors
>they're basically just Regeneradors okay? just use RE4 assets, thanks
>they can enter the base easily, don't care about locked doors
>they will then start roaming the base until power is restored
>act aggressive and try to kill the player when they spot him
fuck it, make them spawn in the basement, they drop out of from the meatbags

>>725441738
NTA, standalone it doesn't sound bad. But combined with all the other new hoops you are spending a lot of time just standing around doing nothing or doing the same minigame for the 100th time.
It's okay for the first four in-game days or so and then it instantly turns annoying, even with upgrades.
It's not like before where you can at least have something cool playing on the radio or the TV, do a fun project or spam signals.
You constantly bounce between sitting around waiting and being too busy to really enjoy anything.

>>725441568
This is one thing I don't like and it needs to be changed. Hash codes were fine.

>>725440701
>>725440972
>Purposefully ignores signals for 16 hours
>When he's done following the streamer checklist on how to play VotV (Including the 3D printer props and mandatory shitty TV bit), realizes that he won't be able to play the actual game because of the coordinate towers
>"At first, not doing signals was a bit, but this is such bullshit I'm not going to even bother."
Really tells you about the state of a game when a guy can spend 16 fucking hours not playing the game and then giving up when he gets to the purpose of the game.

>>725440936
ariral sex

>>725441883
The new system is such shit I expect most streamers will give up. Even his bootlickers on reddit and the discord are struggling to defend half these dogshit changes

>>725441879
>Hash codes were fine.
Not really, it was pretty annoying busy work that took way too much of your time and did the exact opposite of what it was designed to do (get you out of the base to make you explore).
It's just that the new system is even WORSE.
Nose have no fucking idea how to get the player out of the base without relying on busy work for some reasons.

>>725441738
literally every sattelite hash has you sitting around doing nothing for 5 minutes now staring at a console that just keeps repeating the same command over and over again

>>725442031
People on the Discord are against the changes? The short snippets I read were all positive. At least the ones the dev responded to.

>>725441060
Wait until you realize capeshit is behind it.

>>725441775
Thank fucking God you're not in charge of the game. You'd fit right in on the game's discord server though.

>>725442179
ywnbaw

>>725442069
>Nose have no fucking idea how to get the player out of the base without relying on busy work for some reasons.
It's funny, because the initial satellite fixing achieved just that. He didn't need to change it at all or add new things. Maybe make it take slightly longer so that update() can check and poll player state in time to do something spooky when the conditions are set.
He just never did more stuff that relied on you being close to a satellite.
He really only needed to do more events like the mannequins teleporting to that one spot or the ariral pranking you with the cardboard cutout. Those footsteps running up the stairs as you are inside the satellite is actual peak.

>>725442179
>Thank fucking God you're not in charge of the game.
this we need more events you activate by stacking 5 beer bottles on top of each other, then circle them in the atv 5 times while holding a note that says "Friendship is magic" and then a my little pony spawns but it's an evil zombie version and chases you and when it gets you it plays a poop sound and launches you like 50 meters into the air

>>725441775
That's fucking awful.
I like the idea of them roaming around and making a sound, but they shouldn't be so on the nose.
They need to be more mysterious and question you what the fuck this was all about after you restored the power.
Just go play Resident Evil or the million indie variants if you want to fight monsters.

>>725442236
Fixing works specifically because it's something you can postpone and do later, so you're free to do it as your own pace and explore when you're done.
Hashes and the new floppy shit is something you have to do to finish your work, which is on a time constraint, so the quicker you've done it, the faster you can go back to base and finish your job.

>>725442236
He could have just added more entities that could enter the base if you didnt lock up or the power went out, forcing you outside

>>725442278
"We" don't need more events like the pigs or the tank, you retarded nigger.
This game needs more signals and less in-your-face or esoteric triggers bullshit.

>>725442443
Not a fan of entities entering the base. It doesn't force you outside of it, it forces you to engage in combat inside your base.
Much better and scarier for players to stumble upon entities/events outside rather than having events happen to them.
Imagine if you saw the first light orb as you exited a satellite, realizing you have to rush home while dodging/running from them.
You always want to put the player into a position of "powerlessness" to make things tense and scary. Backing a player into a corner causes them to just lash out.

>>725442586
>every entity in the game just goes through doors regardless of if they're locked or not
>when the new base came out the censored sun would just kill you through the doors

>>725442443
Wouldn't work, people would just make their mancave on the roof and it would make doing your job in general more annoying.
We just need more stuff outside (that isn't combat oriented or some fucking esoteric easter egg).

watching joel play signal sim again made me realize just how bad dr nose dropped the ball

>>725441001
>''the mythical Joel ATV''
>''The furry meme mobile''
>whatsapp
the mind of a discord user is an enigma

>>725442586
>Realize you have to rush home while dodging/running light orbs
>Luckily, you have enough food, sleep, and fleshlight battery to have a chance to head home
>Start walking while on the lookout for orbs
>Fall 3 inches on a slightly downwards slope, ankles explode, blood gushes from both ears, die 5 seconds later
Walking at night is already being in a position of powerlessness.

>>725442734
Nose really just needs to start looking at all the 80s, 90s and early 00s "alien sightings" for some inspiration. Just some shit you can barely make out/place that makes you constantly check your corners like a schizoid, thinking something is there when there isn't.
Just more shit in general that turns the player paranoid.

>>725442813
>Just more shit in general that turns the player paranoid.
But with good reasons. Spooky without the threat isn't nearly as fun.

>>725442586
making the base a safe haven is not it

>>725442871
I agree. That's why you have two lethal entities (something like the orbs) to raise the stakes and endless non-lethal "entities" to constantly keep you on your toes.

>>725442903
If you were constantly forced outside making the base a safe haven wouldn't be a problem. It would increase tension as you are outside, knowing how vulnerable you are and never knowing what the fuck could happen or lurk around the corner.

>>725442905
the game is called voices of the void, not signal simulator

the orbs aren't scary

>>725442990
>voices of the void
>no voices
>no void

>>725441617
That's right. It's a very unique game in that it's a weird hybrid between atmospheric horror and Animal Crossing. Just with your only villagers being alien cat girls and the odd forest cryptid.

Honestly not a bad idea for a game.

>>725443087
the void is outer space, buddy

>>725442961
I wouldn't mind the occassional threat. Like something stalking you throughout the week actually coming for you (that you have to escape and hide from) rather than being an empty threat.
>>725443042
Too many of them so they're way too common. Also once they spawn everywhere they just become annoying.

>>725443128
theres no outer space in the game
only stupid supernatural shit

>>725443148
>I wouldn't mind the occassional threat. Like something stalking you throughout the week actually coming for you (that you have to escape and hide from) rather than being an empty threat.
Something like that would be nice. To have the non-lethal stuff keep you on your toes.
But unfortunately it's clear that Nose wants this to be a "haha funny meme xd" game and not an actual ambience horror game.
Hopefully this inspires somebody else to make their take on VotV.

>>725443247
The closest we've got to this sort of threat are the crash events, and those are just memes (because UE4 is dogshit), rather than actually lore related creatures.

>>725435637
>0% chance a player will randomly throw a skull into the shower to summon him
You see, posts like this are exactly why I cant take any of the bitching and whining of anons seriously.

>>725435637
>0% chance a player will randomly throw a skull into the shower
Guess what I did the first time I found a skull.

>>725441883
It was funny when he dismissed any critique of new systems as noskill casuals on his first 0.9 stream

>>725441568
PRO
>gives you incentives to improve the sattelites
>extra options for using scrap to make server upgrades
>makes more sense you give information on a disk instead of a scrap of paper
CON
>your disc doesn't slot into a drive box

>>725443590
>>725443653
Is this a case of "it's not cheating bro i just use soft aim lol" but involving wikis, discords, and other sources of meta knowledge?

Not even that guy and this is the first time I'm hearing about skulls and showers, and just thinking about it I can't imagine a single scenario where anyone would do something like that without hearing about it or some other similar "throw in the shower lol" event first. Throwing stuff inside the well, or the microwave, yeah, not that farfetched with SOME suspicious objects to try things out, but crap like a skull inside the fucking shower? This is literally what that guy described here >>725442278

I will never understand the growing popularity of wiki indies. Maybe it's the social aspect of the cliques that kids like and not actually the games themselves.

>>725442990
>>725443087
>>725443128
How do you understand "void" part refers to space but not that the "voices of" part refers to the signals you're pulling from space?

>>725444473
i blame contrarianism
>giving player hints is bad, everything is supposed to be vague and as random as possible
>YELLOW PAINT BAD

>>725442236
>>725442443
>>725442069
It really should just have the transfer to floppy thing be on a timer, that way you can easily code for spooky things to happen while the player is waiting and shit gets tense because you're waiting for the fucking floppy disk to finish transfering and the noises are getting more closer so you get the FUCK out of dodge the moment it finishes.

>>725424507
True. I just love the idea of being a lone scientist in remote facility doing a research and running into paranormal ayy shit. There's so much potential with it.
And instead we get quirky furries, demons, cleaning and farming. Laso can't stand that they turned mc into a gay twink.

>>725444523
because I'm stupid

>>725444787
It's okay Anon. *Kisses your head and gives you a cookie*

>>725444696
So you're just going to ignore him having been in a relationship with the female doctor that sends him croissants and sushi?

>>725444846
>>725444696
He's fucking his child hood friend Zex, actually.

>>725444846
I meant gay not as in "takes up his ass" but that he looks lame and emoish.

>>725444696
>started as a game about signals from space and alien spooks
>then arirals, discord OCs, supernatural shit
>now its full on "whole organisation are demon worshippers who sent you to base built on top of some sacrifial site where supernatural shit happens all the time and also theres catgirl aliens, mechanical aliens and greys"
tonally its all over the place
i can understand doom/event horizon "aliens = demons and hell is out there is space" but votv is nowhere near it

>>725444846
He looks like a gay emo twink.

>>725444473
Do you no bring stuff from outside into your base? Literally everytime I found a new item I would bring it to my base. And when I didn't find a space for it I would just chuck shit into the shower for funsie.
I'm not saying it's not some retarded easter egg, but saying people wouldn't do something like that is being disingenuous.

>>725445142
>I'm not saying it's not some retarded easter egg
I'm not saying the game isn't full of retarded easter eggs*
I need some sleep.

>>725444473
the shower in the signal room is basically in the perfect place to throw or dump shit into to keep it in the room but out of your way

>>725445142
i guess im not whacky enough to microwave a deer skull on my own accord

>>725415715 (OP)
Being unable to build a fuck off huge omega mecha kerfus to slaughter the furfag ocs

>>725445251
I found out about the microwaved ariral plushies by accident because I wanted to see if plushies would burn.
Cut to a dozen invisible ariral kicking me in the dick straight into the ceiling.

>>725444473
See, THIS is exactly why I cant take anons' whining on any aspect seriously.
Its an event of many, that can happen via certain conditions. You are NOT supposed to look for it. Its made to fucking kill you. Why would you want that? You whine about wiki game because you are playing it like a wiki game. The problem is YOU.
The point of having so many random bullshit events is for you to eventually trigger one by accident. You are not supposed to know about this.
And I can easily see it happening when anon keepa a skull in the room and then an event randomly ragdolls it into the shower.

>no comfy game where you just spend most of it decoding signals from space
Kill my autistic ass NOW and spare me this gay earth that we live.

>>725445323
Does it come with its own gigantic pussy and butthole that can swallow the whole radio tower with room to spare?

>>725444473
>find skull in basement
>take it to tsignal room as decor/to keep you company
>physics event obelisk, tp, maybe even antigravity hits your base, throwing shit around
>skull lands in shower
there you go

>>725445420
this but i'm standing on the radio tower as it gets engulfed

>>725445420
Just a cockpit to pilot the kerfus, the only thing that matters is killing every filthy fucking ariral possible.

Will there be more games similar in structure to VotV and Signal Simulator?

>>725445370
Just be thankful enough that you got space and radio autism instead of "being molested at a young age" autism like the trannies that ruin everything they touch.

>>725437834
>someone used my screenshot from ages ago
Neat. Zex Sex by the way

>>725445323
too think, at one point this could have become reality

>>725415715 (OP)
can't find it on steam

>>725445930
keep looking, make sure you turn off your filters.

>>725445930
Look on Itch.io.

I think a lot of anons have summed up my frustrations but might as well toss in my 2 cents so maybe Nose gets a hint.
>Spend more time outside the base doing chores than doing signals
>Tedious loop of hashes, repairs, transformers and not-hashes
>So many jokes/easter eggs there is a literal funny option
>Focus on OC shit instead of old school UFO stuff
>Base remodel resulted in a worse canvas for you to make into your own. Some of the best stuff in old threads was seeing how people filled the room with stuff
>Less and less focus on SIGNALS in the SIGNAL SIM game

It could be fixed by just pulling back on the useless menial shit. Make exploring a rare and rewarding experience. Have more events happen sitting in your chair deciphering signals. Some of the best moments in the game happen when you get a freaky signal, instead of me getting on my ATV to go fix Yankee for the Nth time and get ambushed by some faggot insect thing
Basically, stop diluting an otherwise good formula

I've seen all this but what's the version before it all went to shit? Recommendations?

>>725445853
That's not from the dev, this me fucking around with modding this game like a year ago. OR was it 2 years?

I never played this game for real. I went through the tutorial and thought "This isn't fun and it's too much of a hassle."

>>725446203
I know, and two years: https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/655230010/
giantess kerfus mod when?

>Vesper doing QA testing live
0.9.0b soon?

>>725446136
0.6 was good. You might also want to try out 0.8, see which one suits your taste best

>>725418749
buggy build
too many daily signals
people don't understand controls
somehow everyone is breaking radars
too many minigames
no new signals
too much gameplay

>>725446318
it feels like we've had the "new" base for years now, has it only been two? Feels like forever ago

>>725446342
nevermind. he just said nose was looking at the ariral events not working last night still
0.9.0b never ever

Is a course correction possible or is the game doomed?

>>725446869
games fine, its just a buggy build and people being giant faggots over having to play the game

>>725446869
far as the dev team is concerned they thinking the people that dislike the new controls are just a vocal minority.
that should tell you enough.

>>725447095
>few people jerking me off in the Discord
>vocal majority
>everyone else outside of it telling me it's shit
>vocal minority
Discord was a mistake

>>725415715 (OP)
i wish joel stopped playing this slop
>what went wrong?
furries, inserting fetish furry autism OC shit in a game that has nothing to do with it.
t. furfag

>>725447095
I personally prefer the new controls, even if it took me a while to get used to, if only for not having to use the alt key for nearly everything

>>725443087
Maybe the real voices of the void were us, yelling at nose for his shit updates and him not hearing or outright ignoring our plight.

>>725440349
QRD? That game always seemed like a schizo meltdown

>>725415715 (OP)
>no new signals
>more stupid chores
And I liked the old base.

>>725447528
@MatPat you're gonna love the lore in this update.
Wow, after this update @MatPat is gonna want to do a video on this one!
@MatPat we just released a new update ;)
@MatPat
@MatPat
@MatPat
@MatPat
@MatPat

>>725423345
>if you're also fine with having to send 5 signals on the first day

On the second day. By that point you should easily have accumulated them.

>>725447674
i hate that

>>725435637
This but Minecraft

>>725424507
>put in more spooky aliens
Aliens will never be scary.

>>725423345
>>725447819
supposedly the high number of daily signals is a bug and will be fixed next version

>>725447674
Ah right, I thought the game had some weird secret or something given it's about a jew

>>725415715 (OP)
>grab everything from the game
>add unnecessary 50 steps to do anything
>turn a game into an actual fucking irl job
>performance is worse than ever
>patreon people rant about the awful changes and get banned from their discord
idk man maybe don't kill your game with retarded decisions?

>>725435637
I wouldnt have a problem with the twinky OC if the model wasnt so goddamn bad.

>>725448415
I'd much prefer if it was closer to the concept art. The model's so fucking bad

>>725448452
>>725448415
The gay furry modeler was the one who actively pushed to make Kel some kind of twink faggot self-insert.
I'm not even joking.

>>725440597
Which is weird because the game is trying to be immsim-ish, which are generally all about encouraging player agency

>>725444696
>>725444951
In case you haven't realised it, the setting is more akin to "Twin Peaks" than "X-Files."

>>725441562
It's just annoying at the start because you by the time you scan the signal and use the two cooldowns to pin it down it usually just disappears before you are done.

>>725448906
Oh yeah, I do agree that the start is miserable.
One thing I would want to add on is some method to determine how old or close it is to vanishing the signal is.
Be it the size of the circle, a color, or something like that. Would help immensely on letting the player determine if it's worth spending cooldown time moving the triangulation points or not without making the upgrades feel any less valuable.

>>725448906
Signals are supposed to visually get smaller as they get closer to running out
either a bug or missed when nose pushed the update early, should be fixed next version

AahhhHHG LE SPOOPY EM FIELD

>>725448629
>discord furry OCs
>"Twin Peaks"
niggers

Anyone got a sticker or poster pack I may enjoy access to?

>>725449505
I meant mostly that it's a complete, nonsensical blender of aliens, the occult, the supernatural, and general covert ops, with non-sequitur comedy and general nonsense from time to time.

>>725448353
>given it's about a jew
What?

>>725424937
>>725425172
Has there even been any "super ARG stuff" lately? Last stuff I can remember being added that fit that definition are the tutorial secret which seems to be stripped out for now so people actually focus on the big control changes and the CMYWB ariral plushes.
The latter of which I feel was the absolute worst point but even those are just funny extras.

>>725449086
>One thing I would want to add on is some method to determine how old or close it is to vanishing the signal is.
That's in the works. See >>725440474

>>725449587
I only got a few that I made myself, mostly meme shit like
Slowpoke face
Pringles moustache
DRR... DRR... DRR..
Ceiling Cat

>>725449587
of the posters I made, the only ones I really use are

>>725450138
and
this one goes over the door

>>725446318
>giantess kerfus mod when
probably never because everyone knows that giant robots aren't what people want for sexual purposes.

>>725449858
The protagonist is a jew.

Have some thoughts from an anon who actually played the first two weeks of .9 so far. Not just regurgitated opinions of NO GAMES anons.

Overall, the new systems are fine once you mentally adjust to flow through them like you usually would. Most are outright improvements. Stuff just needs some balance shifts. Things need to be cheaper to buy overall, for one. And the 5 task a day thing is literally a bug. The triangulation system is pretty bad.. till you fully upgrade the ping cooldown. Then it's just plain better. Though that does mean ping cooldown's base speed needs a massive shift. It kind of is unusable without it heavily upgraded.

The new disk hashes thing is frankly better, but you'll spend some time adjusting to remembering to take your disk and making sure it has enough read/writes on it left. That will be aggravating when you forget to take it or leave it in some server room because you forgot to take it out. The weird tapes thing is just free points, and they even give you two full ones to turn in the instant midnight hits so you always get that done the instant the drone shows up every time.

Transformer minigames are fine. Look at the % value meters instead. But I would prefer just to hit the button. We have enough new minigames as is.

The real concern is the radio towers being hit by lightning. Once the fuses are ate through, it depends on how unlucky you are. If you are very unlucky with constant storms, it's going to be a huge pain. The fuse prices are going to be nerfed, but it's the one thing I may turn off. Particularly as I have sworn off relying on Omega lately.

Also it's super obvious people just mail themselves an omega day 1. Don't lie. Probably part of why this happened.

New controls better. Muscle memory is an issue. It just takes time.

Genuinely considering not touching the ATV. The new parts are fine. Don't wear out fast. The ATV is just too jank now to drive any period of time. THAT needs dialing back. Real bad.

>>725451010
What are you basing this on?

>>725451010
I thought you were gonna the antagonist is a jew because he traps kids in his basement.

>>725451018
>Transformer minigames are fine.
Unless you are colorblind, also they are too unrelated to each other to the point that i feels more like something that you find on a cereal box and not something that represents fixing a transformer.

>Also it's super obvious people just mail themselves an omega day 1. Don't lie. Probably part of why this happened.
To be fair can you blame people for not wanting to play stupid minigames or wasting their time fixing stuff all over the map? I think that you can blame the dev for making a lot of stuff of the game annoying to the point that the players actively search ways to avoid it.

Also if you are going to add a bunch of mechanics to make the player lose their time at least use that time for some spooks or something, not just to annoy them.

>>725451038
His surname and family names.

>>725451534
Explain.

>>725423334
Theres enough events that throw everything in your signal room around that I can see skulls getting tossed into the shower if you keep them in the room.
Whether or not they stay is another thing entirely though

>>725451018
I more or less agree except that the errors during hash collection should be dialed down

>>725451476
>Dev wants people to go outside
NO I WANT TO STAY INDOORS AND DO NOTHING

>>725451018
>Also it's super obvious people just mail themselves an omega day 1. Don't lie. Probably part of why this happened.
Stop projecting.

>>725451476
>To be fair can you blame people for not wanting to play stupid minigames or wasting their time fixing stuff all over the map?

You know what would go a long way to fixing this?

Unfucking the ATV. That it is unstable in being driven is lol so fahnny, but I am very sure that is the real culprit behind what makes everyone reluctant to DO THE MAIN GAMEPLAY. The ATV is just so aggravating to use. This thing should HELP YOUR JOB and not HINDER IT.

I am very sure making it reliable and not wacky crash prone would go a long way to fixing things. Also now that it can't go up steep inclines just makes things feel even worse. Particularly with the map's verticality being increased over time.

Cause frankly the new out of base minigames and busywork don't take much time and aren't bad. It's just getting to them that I hate.

>>725451018
It really just needs some heavy balancing and a shift in design philosophy of "wasting the player's time vs. having the time spent meaningfully".

>>725451646
There has to be a balance, I want to be outside, exploring and finding stuff and maybe seeing some random event, not going directly to a transformer and wasting my time playing a stupid minigame, and then rushing back to the base because I am late for the daily quota.

Second to early access games being incomplete, the worst thing about early access games is how it allows the devs to observe, witness, and react to the players playing their game.
Feedback outside of very small dozes of bite sized parts is one of the worst things that can happen to a creative endeavour.

Even ignoring how audiences seldom know what they want. It inevitably warps the minds of the devs pretty much every time, which will no doubt ruin things.

>>725451552
>family name Roth
>his grandma is named Fein
>his uncle is named Saul
Pure coincidence, prolly

>>725436492
>modded signal sim
Is someone bringing that game back from being abandoned or did he just install a bunch of random shit on top

>>725451782
People talk about doing it actively, anon. Get real.

>>725451641
Server upgrades can be made out of literal trash, but I keep forgetting to make one and lug it along on each trip out. Over time that would mean everything has upgrades, and even one is a huge difference in a server.

But.. logistics issues. I forget, and how would you even take a bunch with you at once?

>>725451809
I am of the strong opinion that doing your job should pay more. Nose needs to put a dead stop to nerfing alternate money sources. Go the other direction. Doing your job pays. The basic job not paying out well is what really fucks things up, makes people ignore the job for a few weeks to start, and will hose new players more than returners.

This really shouldn't be rocket science to fix. Even the new radar tower things would be fine if I had the money to fix them properly. Go out with a few fuses once a week shouldn't be a big deal. And don't just half the price. Make them dirt cheap.

It really is the game's ecnonmy that's the big mess and holding things down. If you were happy to sit in your chair and do chores, it would be different! But in the back of your mind you've already made the value judgement that this job doesn't pay out so you can enjoy the other parts of the game.

I miss the actual horror elements. There is no other event that hits quite like Bad Sun.

>>725435725
It sucks that this retard makes decent models and textures. His character models look like shit though and expose something deeply wrong with him, other than being a tranny boombanny

>>725452146
>I am of the strong opinion that doing your job should pay more
Either that or give meaning to sitting five minutes in front of the satellite terminal with more spooks, or, as you said, just better pay.
I didn't realize until just now how dreadful it is to do your actual job compared to something that should actually be dreadful; cleaning your base.

>>725451018
>The ATV is just too jank now to drive any period of time. THAT needs dialing back. Real bad.
not gonna happen, Joel loves the new ATV

>>725452330
>I miss the actual horror elements. There is no other event that hits quite like Bad Sun.
This. We need more events where you are genuinely confused and unsure what's happening over "funny cryptid in your face xDD".

>>725451939
Yeah, that's like saying that everyone named Samuel is Jewish. Nose is Russian, I doubt he knows the cultural origin of those names.

>>725451995
Joel's moderator and friend, Kirillian, made a massive custom mod for Signal Simulator for this year's Halloween streams. It featured loads of new features, jokes, and events. At one point, one of the custom scares made Joel's attitude shift for the rest of the stream.
https://youtu.be/6wA-o79TwKM

>>725452381
Particularly with how shat up the new base is, it really should be a demotivator to do that before anything else. Except experienced players know how little doing signals and hashes pay. The new tapes being a free midnight turn in every time the drone comes by helps, but it's not going to really get you anything either. And I am very confident that people are better at making such value judgements on 'instinct' than they realize. Even if you don't think about it actively, you're aware. It weighs in to that moment where you don't feel like doing this shit right now. That's how thought works.

If you got paid mad cash, you'd probably be loathe to do anything else and not question the pettiness of the tasks. That would breed the opposite problem, but that would be an actual good problem to have.

>>725452584
>At one point, one of the custom scares made Joel's attitude shift for the rest of the stream.
I'm not watching the video. What do you mean by that?

>>725452671
Joking around -> constant paranoia impairing his thought process. I assume you aren't familiar with this streamer, but he has a genuine, not played up phobia of aliens.

>>725452146
Repairing the signal towers seems to be purposefully obtuse in every metric
>damage is done in chunks randomly rather than a slow drain
>health check can only be done on individual towers instead of having a check that hits all three like transformers
>have to climb a long ass ladder
>the anti sprint steps
>physical repair items
>yank out and replace the individual fuses if you brought some
>annoying minigame
Transformers are the sweet spot of easy to keep track of and incentivizing the player to perform maintenance while still requiring you yourself to go out and reset before they completely go down, as well as giving you more freedom to choose when to do the work even with the 0.9 changes to them, meanwhile the towers are the biggest pieces of shit in the game now. Servers at least have some variety even if half the new minigames are worse than math

>>725452807
When was the last time VotV did that to him?

>>725452617
>And I am very confident that people are better at making such value judgements on 'instinct' than they realize
Absolutely. Because it took me until just now to realize that myself.
What do I do when I start the game? Clean the base and not do any signals. Why? Because signals pay very little and are awful to do without any upgrades ever since 0.6. So I clean the base first to "fund" me doing signals by getting upgrades first.
In reality it should be the exact opposite way.
>Do signals to fund the means to clean your base
not
>Clean the base to fund the upgrades to do signals

>>725452584
>new features and events
Is it available somewhere or just some gay "teehee streamer only content" bullshit

>>725452839
As I said earlier, that's the one thing I'm considering disabling once the option unlocks. Which, yes, if you have a fresh install like mine, 90% of the options are locked. You have to get past day 14 for most. Gotta rawdog your save if you're a fresh start.

Which is super cool. I don't know if most people even realize that's a semantic? Since a lot of anons have legacy installs.

>>725449587
I've got this one but it's a bit too big

>>725415715 (OP)
Ever since ive started playing, the patches have added very little to nothing I care about. More signals, maybe more place to explore? Nope, ariral, player models, shit that no one asked for, making it more frustrating.

He also seems to design it now for the community that will carry over points to a new save instead of restarting.

I have never built omega kerfur because I get bored before I ever achieve that. So now we have expensive fuses that break. This will kill it for new players.

And the AI pathing on regular kerfur is dogshit. He falls in the river all the time.

>>725452807
I thought Swedes loved murderous aliens.

>>725453172
>new places
0.9 did add some new places at least. Theres a hidden section under the basement now, a (Hopefully currently) inaccessible cellar behind base, and the restricted zone now has an abandoned village.
Nothing really happens in the first one as far as I can tell, and I personally think the village wasn't a great addition, but they're at least places to check out

>>725453048
The latter.

>>725453045
Exactly. Bingo. On the money. You should do signals as a means to fund the rest of the game. Not use the rest of the game to fund signals. That is TOTALLY BACKWARDS. That said, I get the issue. This is like a lore based decision and not a mechanics based one. You inherit a shit hole you are meant do die in. Bao never expects you do do any work. Much less survive long enough to fix anything. That's part of the deal. It's narrative. Having a base that's operational to start would sabotage the underlying theme that you were sent here to suffer and die.

Also, just make a sacrifice save to shove everything in to a drone. Including the MRE barrel and everything not nailed down. Even the chairs and spare walls can be sold so long as you can [hold] them to shit click them in to the UAV. Get the MRE barrel. Sell it all. Go to the ATM and cash out your points. Then mail yourself the cash.

Then make a new save and start from there. This is my honest recommendation till Nose rethinks the early economy. Or just has something basic already fully upgraded like ping cooldown. As ping cooldown is THE upgrade to get in the triangulation system. Everything else is ignorable.

>>725453048
They don't want to distribute it because it's just a hacked version of the game and they don't have it ready as some kind of patch or anything, it would just be pirating the game to give it out. From what we've seen, all it really adds is a bunch of brainrot streamer memes and speeds up the game progression by like 1000%, so you're not missing out. That window scare is like the one thing that wouldn't be out of place in the base game.

>>725424547
Is insane how the old Signal Simulator still scares Joel way more with way less.

>>725451646
NO THE PLAYER NEED TO HAVE 50000 HOURS OF BUSY WORK OUTSIDE OF THEY WILL NEVER EVER GO OUTSIDE

>>725453428
I sure an fucking glad that a cool premise for a game like that is just completely abandoned and the closest thing to a fan update gets to be played by a single retarded swede

>>725418758
That would require the cats being in the game

>>725453474
>Also, just make a sacrifice save to shove everything in to a drone.
Honestly at that point just use cheat engine on your new save to give yourself like 1k credits or so.
That's a lot of work just to make the game playable.

>>725451847
The thing is that, as a dev you should never listen to a small group of people (aka your game Discord) because it's a very warped, and usually self-fellating point of view, so it's always going to lead to games getting shittier and shittier.
Like any creative media, you need to accept criticism as a game dev or you're just going to make liquid shit.

>>725452617
>>725453045
>>725453474
>Tools and stuff you can't really get outside of buying them should be extremely expensive.
>You should be doing signals so you can buy food to survive and some other stuff to help do other stuff.
>You should be saving up to buy expensive upgrades that make QoL easier, like transitioning to growing your own food as opposed to buying it so you can cut costs and allow you to more easily get the higher tier upgrades that cost alot more.
>You should be a complete slave to the shop (giving the player room to explore and experiment though of course) to stay alive.
>Unlocking more veins of avenue should be locked BEHIND expensive upgrades and tools that requires you to process signals.
I personally think you should be able to listen to signals the moment you download them like in SS, upgrading signals should be purely for points and quotas.

Who the fuck is Joel and why is everyone obsessed with him?

>>725449587
Here's my collection, nearly all of it is IRL posters, most of them swiss: https://files.catbox.moe/vnyx0c.7z

If you're autistic (like me) about having your posters be the same size in game as they were in real life, stick to ".\3 - VOTV POSTER\posters". I fucked up the rest. Twice.
I've fixed my "common poster sizes" template since.

Also any IRL .jpg poster in ".\2 - CLEAN\2 - Posterized" should have it's source available as a comment, in the file's metadata. That should give you a good starting point on where to find more posters like that if you're into that.

Oh and of course, and as usual, here's Loops' stuff, including both posters and stickers: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1j85n52hoHkYdXYx4NxsebveIiMh79pZB

>>725435725
what does this do with the game
or are you just obsessed?

>>725415715 (OP)
If I wasn't able to bring omega kerfer over from another save I would've dropped this update so fast, I just don't have the patience in me for the busywork on top of the extra tedium this time around.

>>725415715 (OP)
Collaborating with (read: capitulating to) trannies.

>>725454114
>allowing cultural prions like autozoophilia and autoandrophilia into your game
>"yeah, but like, how does that effect the game?"

>>725453112
Just make it square, the size doesn't really matter.

>>725454114
>allowing cultural prions like autozoophilia and autoandrophilia into your game
>"yeah, but like, how does that affect the game?"

>>725454343
didn't answer my question
I accept your concession and conclude you are obsessed just like 90% of other anons on this hell board

>>725454003
I never bothered to look this up, but how many signals need you upgrading them to be able to listen to them? And are there any signals that get "corrupted" if you go from lvl 0 to lvl 3?
I always painstakingly went through the individual levels, paranoid I'd destroy a signal that would otherwise have something on it.

>>725454114
>"Why are you against blue-haired wheelchair-bound female nigger cyborg soldiers in your WWI game?"
>"What does this have to do with the game? Are you obsessed?"

>>725454449
name 5 (five) games that feature this

>>725453710
Anon, you are overestimating the mod. There are some spooks, sure, but it's mostly streamer memes, like a Bathroom meter and playing clips of King Ass Ripper whenever use the toilet, as well as an option to piss in the sink.

>>725449587
some stuff posted before in previous threads, I might have more but I need to find them
https://files.catbox.moe/xd03vd.zip
https://files.catbox.moe/ssijaa.zip

>>725454449
https://youtu.be/iDvlO9-dxnE

>>725453940
I mean maybe, but now I have a legacy save to just sell everything and shove in to the mail for whenever Nose fixes the game. So...

Also having spare items you can't buy in your mailbox is cool. One of my shovels fell through the floor.

>>725454385
>didn't answer my question
Then you're already fully infected and thus don't care.
>I accept your concession
Where?
>you are obsessed
Yes, avoiding and trying to eradicate an illness would look like an obsession to those who don't recognize the illness or think it's not a big deal...

>>725454627
I
accept
your
concession
:^)

>>725454389
I think most signals need to be upgraded to get the full picture, with a very small amount being degraded if they get processed at all. If you're scared of losing them, either grab autosave early or just manually save the signal each level.
This also gives you more breathing room as you purchase each level of processing and Bao starts asking for higher level signals as you can process copies you already sent in at a lower level and have them count.

>>725454059
>>725454538
Thanks a lot, anons.

Despite it's troubles, I like this game a lot and hope for it's success. Having some custom stuff to decorate with in the future will be appreciated.

>VotV thread
>almost instantly devolves into chuds seething about trannies and furries despite

>>725454389
>but how many signals need you upgrading them to be able to listen to them?
99% of them sound like garbage when you downloaded them and were only listenable after upgrading them to 3.
There were a few that you could listen to but died after upgrading once.
Anyways I just generally enjoyed the SS way of casually listening to every signal, getting used to space whale noises, only for an actual creepy signal to pop up and make you feel unnerved when it's in the middle of the night ingame.

>>725454736
>OP asks what went wrong
>Anon has a melty when people point out the answer

>>725454680
>>725454389
I just save level one of every signal.
You can take a copied (yellow) signal, and upgrade it and it'll be green.

the door inside the meat locker room spoke to me
then the floor unfolded

>>725454660
I'm glad you accept your own concession, but that's not for you to decide.

>>725454830
level Zero* not one

I find it hilarious that Joel the biggest VotV streamer hates the Arirals, the dev's pet

>>725454751
>Anyways I just generally enjoyed the SS way of casually listening to every signal, getting used to space whale noises, only for an actual creepy signal to pop up and make you feel unnerved when it's in the middle of the night ingame.
Same. And then you hear inconsequential sounds outside and start jumping at shadows. That's what I came to VotV for initially.
And now it's
>Haha... There's a giant pyramid shooting lasers... Haha... So cool... Wow...

I WANT TO FUCK cheese SO BAD

>>725454751
>>725454830
>You can take a copied (yellow) signal, and upgrade it and it'll be green
Yeah, I do that. But are there signals that are only listenable on level 1 or 2 or can I safely take it straight to level 3 every time?

>>725454503
The toilet metter is genious to force people to stay still on a scary place.

>>725454923
To be fair, SS also had "holy shit what the fuck there's a giant alien beacon outside" and "ELON MUSK JUST LANDED A ROCKET OUTSIDE?".

>>725454897
Do you blame him? He came for ambient horror and ayy lmaos.
Now VotV has neither.

>>725452671
An alien with pop up from a window, the game is old so the fluid animated alien scared his and made his paranoid. Not streamer paranoid, actually upset

I do not care about Joel.

>>725455075
Yeah, I'm not excusing Signal Simulator at all. People flocked to VotV because the early versions did everything right compared to it. And now it's literally doing the same mistakes as its spiritual predecessor.
I can't be scared anymore, because there are no unknowns, no paranoia, no schizo moments. I know that if there is something out there, it will be super on the nose and always unmissable. So if nothing is happening, nothing is happening indeed.

I kinda miss loops
I wonder if he watched area 88 yet

>>725455251
I wish signal sim hadn't been abandoned. I enjoyed watching the first friday the 13th movie on the console.
If anything I just wish games like this didn't have the door behind me at all times. I want a cozy nook.

>>725454998
>t.

>>725425217
Its the same psychology that exist among gacha whales, paypigs, MMO players, FPS botters, CS skin traders, discord trannies/moderators etc. Fun is not the objective. The objective is finding a social niche where you are the top dog and get to exercise authority/superiority in some way that gets validated in some way.

>>725455263
loops was here just last week

>>725454897
irrelevant, charborg WAS the best votv streamer, his opinion should be king.
Sorry to ecelebpost, felt like lamenting the long absence of the one streamer I could watch on main monitor.

>>725430847
>HL default noises are jarring and unfun
tasteless nigger

The dev becoming parasocial with his own community and e-celebs was the nail in the coffin I think. So much dev time is spent on stupid, extremely niche shit that 99% of players won't touch. And when he does touch the actual main game loop he fucks the time economy in a comical fashion.
I just don't get it.

>>725455480
>missed loops
Fuck, did he draw anything

I'll give VotV a few positives.
>More interaction with the world and sandbox aspects is great.
>Plenty of the events are pretty spooky. I said it before but the power loss event made me shit myself completely the first time it happened and it still irks me when it happens, but I have still vivid memories of a time when I was home alone when I was 13-14 for a bit at night and the power went out while I was watching Marble Hornets (SlenderMan Horror Web Series) in the basement theather, plunging me into pitch black darkness.
>The threat of death to maintain player fear is a good idea.
>Disabling the ability to sleep or pause during events is good, it stops players from skipping events and seeing the "I can't sleep" pop up is pretty fucking creepy, you KNOW something is wrong but you don't know exactly what.
>The movement and half-life noises/source engine mimicry giving the feeling of playing through a source map honestly adds to both the comfyness and the horror.
Probably some more shit I can't think of or put into good words, but VotV does plenty good in addition to dropping the ball in other areas.

Doesn't Zex have a plushy officially in the game now?

>>725455643
I just checked the changelogs and realized he literally spent the past two years not doing anything meaningful to the game, only niche ARG shit and funny setting events.
And as you said, the few things he did change was him fucking up the game completely, but not with new content, but by modifying the existing gameplay and deviating it even further from the signals and into the discord circlejerk meme shit.

>>725442784
... That whatsapp skin is kind of funny... why though?

>>725455778
Can I put it in a jar surrounded by used tissues
I'd impregnate zex before day 2

>>725455857
eh... yeah it's kinda funny only because gordon freeman whats app hev

>>725454783
They don't want to hear or see the answer, because they know the answer is them and it always was.

>>725455653
just this one I think, and some screenshots of the zax plushie

>>725455712
If you read the thread, you'll realize everyone here actually likes the underlying game still. The problem is that recent updates push you further and further away from said game and no longer facilitates that same paranoid fear that you described.

>>725455971
Neat, reminds me of RTS game concept art.
I can't remember if the scientist is Zex or Zax
Cute shimapan though

Everything could've been solved by adding multiplayer. And I'm saying it unironically

>>725456127
>implying nose could deal with keeping save, item locations and sync consistent
>not to mention some areas are different map zones
>and how it'd break all his gay scripting
You're asking too much

>>725455653
he's part of the dev team now

>>725456127
>Add multiplayer
>It's now a whacky friendslop game
>Nothing is even remotely spooky anymore (see: Lethal Company, REPO etc.)
Nah.

>>725456127
Literally impossible, he would have to rebuild the game from the base up and his current code is already shitting itself.
Wouldn't be shocked if someone steals the core premise and makes it friend slop however. Good luck with that, I pray it is better than what we have now.

>>725451018
>but you'll spend some time adjusting to remembering to take your disk
Never been an issue for me. Just the read writes, once.
Doesn't fix my main issue with how hashes are now just mandatory time out in a cramped room while the hashes load, and nothing to do.
Back at the base, I can at least go clean while the signal downloads. And preventing the player from running any commands while hashes download was completely unnecessary. Like please, at the very least let me do something while I wait.

New controls suck and I've got my reasons why:
Holding to interact wastes your time. This may be fine in some games, but not in VotV where time management is crucial. You're given two ways to mitigate this: make the QTE harder on yourself by reducing the timer, or swap R functions depending on context.
Why the former is bad should be self evident: The point was supposed to make the controls easier and more accessible; turning them into a timing and skill check you have to pass for every other interaction runs counter to that notion.

The later I think you should be familiar after two weeks and having cleaned out the base: Collecting a bunch of items often (trash), favors R-tap to collect, so you toggle the switch and slowly train yourself into that notion. However, day to day interactions favor R-tap to hold. So once you're done cleaning the base, you have to retrain yourself again. And next update that requires a new save, you'll have to retrain yourself twice again.

1/2

>>725456225
Well that's a little disappointing, their own game looked neat
In b4 they start defending nose in all things

>>725456357
2/2

Last but not least is the death of context menus. One, it allowed you to do repeat tasks fast. Two, it allowed you to disambiguate. You should have already come across the need by now to collect an item while you're already holding something too big to be collected: A zip disk, drive box in hand and tape case in inventory. Or freshly dug canned food, shovel in hand and metal detector in inventory.
Resolving these situations used to be straightforward. Now it requires you to juggle items.

Now, the Alt button: Yes, it is a positive that it's gone. But there were ways other than tap-hold to achieve this.
Let the player rebind rebind modifier keys! Better yet, let the player rebind actions to whatever key or key combo suits them best! And think, what does the removal of most (not all!) context menus have to do with the removal of Alt? It accomplishes nothing in that regard.
Are there really any positives to the new scheme that can't be derived any other way? The only one I've come across is the fact I no longer have to hold down E while grabbing something, which was uncomfortable.

Everything else I agree with you on except maybe transformers, in that I like the sinewave minigame.

Also, accusing people of not playing the game is bad form and you know it.

votv multiplayer but it's just adding the ability to shitpost on a shitty bbs

>>725456127
>Everything could've been solved by banning troon and furfag propaganda. And I'm saying it sincerely
Fixed.

>>725456452
And sending shit to other players with the drone.

>>725415715 (OP)
It's fine, it just has some minor gameplay issues that will hopefully be addressed with time. However we will likely never get rid of the autistic faggots who refuse to accept that this game was always a vehicle for the devs weird interests, unfortunately.

>>725456452
I love multiplayer like this, but it would utterly annihilate the solitude and loneliness of the game.

>>725454736
What'd gif I miss?

>>725456646
>minor gameplay issues
>minor
The entire thread has been complaining about the pacing of the game and Signals taking a back seat to all the other mechanics in the game.
>>725456715
Cat reaction gif.

I kinda wish we had a merchant character like the RE4 one or Sidorovich who'd turn up in a rusty van to our car park once a week and sell us odd shit bao won't provide, just dealing out the back.
Kinda wanna replay RE8 now, duke was a bro

>>725456791
I cantrule out the possibility of us getting some kind of secondary store in the future considering the ATM let's you withdraw currently worthless bills in addition to coins, unless Nose intends to make us send cash in the drone to buy things, in which case he'd better fucking give us a better system than it dumping the money in a pile

>>725456118
From what I recall, she used to be Zex because "sexo lmao".
Became Zax later on as the character matured.

>>725436763
>watching people who purposely fuck around
Retarded fucking dev. Shame this is way too common.

It's a "thread game". It's fun to read the threads, horrible to play. What are some other thread games?

>>725436763
What mental illness is this?

>>725457082
>matured
But..but she was fun
Where did the soul go

>>725436763
The fuck is this IRC shit

>>725457515
Stream chat log.

>play this game 2 years ago
>fun as fuck to play blind
>play it a year ago
>barely anything changed
>maybe like 3 new events
>play .9 on halloween
>its the same shit but worse
does this dev just jerk off in discord all day? Where are the new events? Why is the fuses and shit so annoying? Are there new events but I don't know the secret l33t gamer handshake to activate them?

>>725456780
They are minor, they only really become noticeable after multiple playthroughs and the signal stuff especially could easily be adjusted. That being said if he just throws up his hands and leaves them like this forever to focus on fishing mini games and stamp collecting, yeah I'll be pissed but until then im happy to be patient.

JOEL PLEASE PLAY MY GAME
JOEL PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE MY OC DONUT STEEL
JOEL WHY AREN'T YOU RESPONDING TO MY MESSAGES

>>725436763
>posts same message twice
>"check msg it's funny"
Fucking hell.

>>725457372
SS13

>>725457774
>twice
He starts posting the same message FOUR times.

>>725445723
has loops been around lately?

>>725457827
Yeah but for some reason him specifically telling him to read his funny message was the worst for me

>>725457372
Any bad game really

If you blocked Nose from accessing discord or twitch you would get a dozen new events and signals in less than a month.

>>725456780
Was it a good cat reaction gif?

>>725457925
I feel like Nose not having internet access in general would be beneficial for the development of the game as a whole.

>>725436763
Does he do the same shit for other streamers or it's only the swede he's parasocial with?

>>725457815
Speaking of wizards, had an idea for a votv-like game but you're a wizard in a tower studying magic. But I'll probably never get my shit together enough to make it.

>>725452807
>but he has a genuine, not played up phobia of aliens.
1-800-come-on-now

>>725457815
Yeah the current state of ss13 is miserable. its all just gooner furry ERP servers at this point
Like even as a furfag-adjacent I wish they just kept this shit to their own communities, we didn't gatekeep hard enough

>>725453320
The game has grays not blacks

>>725458030
stealing this idea but i'll probably also never make it

>>725458061
He's a swede, anon, their brain don't work the same as ours. Or at all sometimes.

>>725458218
There are ne greys

>>725458030
I'm going to think about this before bed tonight. It sounds fun
Thank you

>>725458030
>can go down to the nearby village to test your new spells, artifacts and potions

>>725458030
I'm stealing your billion dollars idea and never actually do anything with it, and there's nothing you can do about it!

>>725457815
VotV has so much shit in it you could probably mod it into a 3D ss13

>>725458508
>The conflict outside your tower will gradually get worse as times goes by, from simple goblins or a bandit or two to magical end-times with dragons and phoenixes waging magical grand warfare, destroying everything around them
>Different endings depending on if you managed to successfully forify your mage tower, helped the villagers survive and so on
Would be kino of the highest order

>>725458239
>>725458529
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I love the geometric size of the server upgrades
if you know what I mean (don't post the spoiler)

>>725458707
>an ending where you just detach your tower and float to some other remote village, essentially starting NG+

>>725417206
>>725418758
These but unironically.

>>725456452
Now this would actually be sick. Old school 90s bbs. Can also have an event where the bbs text is corrupted with cryptic bullshit strings. Or the bbs starts flickering.

>>725415715 (OP)
Furries

>>725457391
>What mental illness is this?
This >>725440597

>>725457515
Twitch chat IS IRC. No, really. Literally IRC.

>>725457614
>Where are the new events?
He did add a lot of new events. Unfortunately all the new events are stuck behind cryptic unlock luigi-level shit. And they're neither scary nor interesting.
He's just been doing meme shit for the past two years to appeal to streamers and discord kittens specifically. It's a shame.

>>725458008
Joel is his favorite, but he does the same shit to others and his Discord.

>>725459479
>luigi-level shit
I wasn't aware we could murder CEOs in this game

>>725459479
>Unfortunately all the new events are stuck behind cryptic unlock luigi-level shit.
This is the core problem, feels like over 50% of new content is just this.
Not saying you can't have a few of those events for the dedicated autists, but c'mon man throw the rest of us a bone.

>>725459767
the dev added that stupid stone tablet ARG shit ages ago and then decided that every new event should be similar levels of tediousness

Sex with Ena or Sex with Zex?

>>725424507
Well Nose was watching Joel play signal sim so maybe we will get more ayy lmao spooks from this

>>725459479
Here's the events and "threats" he added in the previous version 0.8:
>12 random events
>1 dream
>Ultra threat
>5 threats [NEW] +1
>THREAT!
>An actual threat
>A threat that lays between the white and black
>4 events
>An actual threat #2
>1 day

If you came from 0.6 or 0.7. How many of these events do you think you encountered? If you guessed "one", you might still be wrong. It's likely zero, except for maybe the dream and the mandatory new day event.
Just for reference:
0.6 released in 22nd of October 2023
0.7 released in 3rd of March 2024
0.8 released in 15th of August 2024

>>725436763
Dr. Noseberg

>>725427741
They have some manner of charging up the battery, otherwise you'd have to constantly take the battery out and charge it. Nose probably knows about as much about how ATVs operate as Ubisoft, and they don't know you have to actually push that funny little lever thingy known as the accelerator connected to the right handlebar.

>>725460086
>It's likely zero, except for maybe the dream and the mandatory new day event.
explain. What convoluted bullshit are these hidden behind

>>725425561
Reminds me of that dark web game.

>>725460210
I'm not gonna lie, I don't even remember anymore all the bullshit you have to do in 0.8 specifically. Though, I think that's enough of an answer.

>>725460352
You mean the two where you're trying to make money to buy computer parts so you can watch snuff porn online? And there's a guy in your alley trying to kill you for no reason?

>>725415715 (OP)
They gave Dr. Kel a character model. He looks like a homeless twink.

>>725415715 (OP)
>great idea, fucking awful execution.
turned into some furry trash where you collect garbage and nothing ever happens

>>725458707
The idea I had was more like
>you inherit a tower from some old wizard, maybe a distant family member or something
>tower is mostly in shambles, a lot of areas can't be accessed without repairs or certain spells
>tower stands in a lonely valley surrounded by mountains
>occasionally encounter various horrors that your predecessor summoned or created or attracted at some point
>maybe unleash some of your own
>magic is mostly ritual-based, so you don't have that much power when you're just bumblefucking around and you're still vulnerable
>occasionally get requests for various things via an owl or something, initially from villagers but over time richer and more powerful clients too
>can also order things that get delivered one way or another, probably via teleportation

>>725460539
Yeah. It even had an assassin and a masked guy.

>>725436763
Anons here don't know what a twitch chat is, of course he has to repeat himself a lot because the chat goes by too fast

>>725460575
I can get behind this, so long as the inevitable dev for it doesnt fuck up and cater to streamers

>>725460756
It still means he's desperate for senpai to notice him

>>725456127
>wanting to turn votv into another fotm friendslop

>>725460756
Is your message really that important that you absolutely must have mr. strimmer read it when he's not even playing your game?

>>725460756
Anon, even huge streamers can single out chat to speak to specific viewers. Needing to repeat yourself hoping [streamer] sees your message and reply to you still reeks heavily of attention whoring you're not receiving.

>>725436763
This really shows all that is wrong with VotV right now. Look at his toilet and toilet seat comment as example. No, VotV would not benefit from it. VotV would benefit from more signals and a proper atmosphere.
He literally sees Joel do the fecal funny and go "yeah I want to be part of that". Not realizing that stream humor benefits more from a serious amtosphere than LMAORANDUMB shit.

>>725460756
you can watch the vod and see the guy have like 3 messages on screen at any given time

>>725452584
>Nose is Russian
Why does this country love furshit so much?

>>725415715 (OP)
too much boring ariral shit and less focus on the horror.

>>725458508
Creepy demons stalk walls the tower, they can warded off through obscure and arbitrary means.

>>725461319
The world loves furshit

I just wanted more signals

>>725461919
Same. Seems like never ever at this point.

>>725454114
>>725454385

What's the patch that has the least garbage to clean? I just can't.
I played last patch of the previous base (the small one) and a bit of the following patch. I wonder if this isn't the best one.

>>725415715 (OP)
This game had so much potential but sadly it was made by the wrong type of russian

>>725459924
Zex with sex

>>725454114
>>725454385
>>725454496

>>725462350
He was the right kind of russian, but he was corrupted by western influences

>>725461238
I know Joel is partly the reason this game exists but his shitty humor and Nose's desperate attempts to appease him are ruining it

>>725462223
0.6 is the last "good" version. But it's also a bit lacking compared to 0.9.
Best to just wait until 0.9b drops (might be weeks or months, nobody knows) and pray that the dev listens and fixes all the issues at least.

>>725462468
>and pray that the dev listens and fixes all the issues at least
Lol
Lmao

>>725461550
>you will never EVER have a kitsune wife
its just not fair

>>725462450
kys slavshit scum
you will never be white

>>725462398
>GamerGate survivor
If you mean the team that won, you're dead on...

>>725462398
every day I wake up I'm thankful for the fact that I'm not a w*jakposter that's obsessed with niggertrannies.

>>725462467
For what it's worth, it seems Joel himself doesn't like the game all that much anymore either. Nose just leaned too heavily into the jokes and needs a reality check again.

>>725462537
alright what is this?

>>725462556
The californian cries out in pain as it pozzes you

>>725462584
Part of me wishes Joel would lose interest permanently but another part of me is scared that Nose would lose interest as well.

>>725462569
>>725462582
>t.ranny

>>725462468
Thanks, I think that's the first version I played since it's the old base. Is there no version with the "new" base that's worth? wow

>>725462657
>we must resist the western plague that is heterosexuality
worthless subhuman
get bombed by a drone

>>725462727
Nose has his Discord fanclub. Even without Joel, the game will keep trucking down this road until everyone collectively starts losing interest.
I'm kind of expecting the game to end similarly to Yandere Simulator eventually. People will eventually move on after too many changes with too little meaningful content.

>>725462635
I legitimately do not know

I can't believe that there are still no sex mods for it.

>>725462584
he finished "season 2" and started playing the new update the very next day, obviously he still likes it

>>725462727
>that Nose would lose interest as well.
doesn't he get like 30k patreonbucks every month

>>725462835
No. The new base was... 0.8, I think? And then another overhaul with 0.9.
The game has just been slowly fucked up ever since 0.6.
And even if you do play 0.9b eventually, there's only one new signal since 0.6. Read the thread for details.

>>725462876
>I'm kind of expecting the game to end similarly to Yandere Simulator eventually. People will eventually move on after too many changes with too little meaningful content.
*ding* *ding* *ding* winner!

>>725463031
true, I forgot
he's probably an oligarch with that money

>>725462991
He played the new update for three hours each for two streams and stopped again. If you actually watched the streams you would hear him being first confused with the new shit and then bored out of his mind right after.

>>725462986
what exactly are you hoping for there
big floppy dicks on the mannequins?

>>725462851
Go get your ass gaped at a pride parade lmao

>>725462727
>>725462876
honestly if anything Joel would probably be a positive influence at this point if he didn't blindly suck off anyone with the ability to do basic coding because he thinks its magic
he constantly rails against all of the gay tedium added to the game over the years even if its simply because he's a lazy feckless nigger throwing things around and wondering where the fuck he put everything
the problem is that he'll never say anything truly critical because he treats anyone who can dev like a god and half of his schtick of never rocking the boat ever

>>725458030
Add a little science with the alchemy and call it...
>The Monster of Frankenstein: Frankenstein
Your two gender options will be
>Frankenstein
>Frankenstein's Monster

>>725463036
>there's only one new signal since 0.6
I hate cleaning the new base, I did it once for 0.8, and I've seen how much more garbage there is for 0.9, and there is only one signal? That's fucked up, I didn't know.
Almost no point to play any version after 0.6, since IIRC Kerfus was nerfed (and even more for 0.9 maybe? since there are more "tasks").

Well, I know which version I have to play now.

>>725463360
Kerfus is borderline useless for 0.9 and the new signal isn't in yet. It's in 0.9b which is still in the works.
I will give credit where credit is due, from the preliminary patch notes it does seem at least like he's trying to fix the economy. But the game simply isn't the same from 0.6 anymore.
As people pointed out, it's mostly just memes and on the nose stuff.

>>725463289
>frankenstein could only get ahold of the crotch of a female corpse

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE
GIVE ME MORE FLIRTING WITH DR ENA AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

>>725463201
>gay fantasies
Why are russians like this?

DrNoseDev fell down the YanDev pipeline.
>lose passion for the game
>still wanna milk discordkittens and youtubers, streamers in this case
>continue making updates at a snail's pace
>most of these updates just add easter eggs, spooks or entities in this case

>>725464803
I don't think he lost his passion necessarily. I think he just wants to be part of fecalfunny and the creepypasta club. He just kinda lost the plot.

>>725464803
I can only blame him so much though I can blame him plenty

>>725458030
>experiments with summoning imps/daemons to use them as working drones
>things from outer dimensions constantly try to break into yours so you have to be careful with rituals and ward them off
>library is the most dangerous place in your castle
>castle has lots of secret rooms and passages left by previous castle owner
>supposedly there's a rich and complex cave system under your castle
>if your shenannigans go way too far gods start taking interest in you but never fully reveal themselves

>>725431164
>Let your tranny modeler openly boast about how his personal goal is to twinkify the player model as much as possible
based

>>725435637
Besides some clipping, there's literally nothing wrong with that twink model